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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

i have just been directed to a website that offers legal highs. anyone tried them?

ANy good or big no no?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big no for me,

Could be anything and mostly not tested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As said above, most aren't tested and can be very dangerous. I'd steer well clear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A no no legal or illegal highs make you unpredictable and things off a web site could contain anything.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I watched a programme about this a while back. The paramedics and ER staff actually said they prefer it when they get a patient who has had a bad time with cocaine/ecstasy etc as they at least have a base to start from with treatment. These legal highs can contain anything. Look at the press coverage for mcat (meow meow) a while back. Lethal stuff! A shop near to me sells 'legal highs' and they have warnings about over consumption so obviously aren't that safe!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met a 14 year old boy when he busrt into my work with his pals who had taken some stuff he just bought out of a shop he ended up in hospital I had to treat him before ambulance got there a heart rate of 205a minute sweats paranoid, halucinations, fearing he was gonna die cos of his rapid heart he was lucky he was young and fit as the heart aint built for that shit.

You choice but he learned a lesson that day my advice is deffo NO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not worth the risk to be honest you dont no whats in them same on ebay to

an other sites

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By *ralfanatic69Man
over a year ago

hull

I heard poppers is a good high during sex but never tried it but would if I knew where to get my hands on some

Answers on a post card

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With al the knowledge and educated folk around why someone would even consider taking a risk beats me perhaps being sensible is not cool if so am glad to be a nerd.

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By *inkyScot22Man
over a year ago

Anniesland


"I heard poppers is a good high during sex but never tried it but would if I knew where to get my hands on some

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Every sex shop, a.k.a. Amyl Nitrite, a potent vasodilator with psychoactive properties when inhaled, relaxes muscles and provides a 'head high', vasodilator, you say? Like viagra? Yes but poppers are best used when you're on your back as too much can lead to fainting when your blood pressure drops from the vasodilation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the problem with them is use and dosage is mostly anecdotal. one bloke had a severe mental breakdown because he took 6 grammes of mcat over a weekend. of course he did. he took 6 grammes

.you take your life in your own hands do go easy.

then again i know someone who drinks 3 bottles of vodka every weekend. and he's got the info at hand.

there's plenty of discussion sites for pointers. erowid for example

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have the same discussion with someone who dies mcat etc and ge comes out with the same old shit saying alcohol is sangerous and addictive and the point i make is simply unless you buy from someone dodgy you know or xan be aware of what your pint consists of.

With all the mcat etc its a step into unknown and so when i hear or read of folk dying from illegal substance abuse i have zero sympathy as it is a lifestyle choice.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"I heard poppers is a good high during sex but never tried it but would if I knew where to get my hands on some

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Ann summers sells it now, it does carry a warning not to inhale directly from bottle tho!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nono from me to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I watched a programme about this a while back. The paramedics and ER staff actually said they prefer it when they get a patient who has had a bad time with cocaine/ecstasy etc as they at least have a base to start from with treatment. These legal highs can contain anything. Look at the press coverage for mcat (meow meow) a while back. Lethal stuff! A shop near to me sells 'legal highs' and they have warnings about over consumption so obviously aren't that safe!! "

The press don't lie do they

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have the same discussion with someone who dies mcat etc and ge comes out with the same old shit saying alcohol is sangerous and addictive and the point i make is simply unless you buy from someone dodgy you know or xan be aware of what your pint consists of.

With all the mcat etc its a step into unknown and so when i hear or read of folk dying from illegal substance abuse i have zero sympathy as it is a lifestyle choice."

Buying spirits from a shop is just as dangerous. Do you realise how many shops are selling counterfeit alcohol with out realising it. One shop close to ours had 9 boxes of different spirits took away off customs because it was counterfeit. You don't know what is in it as its knocked up in a warehouse by people that don't care what it does to someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I met a 14 year old boy when he busrt into my work with his pals who had taken some stuff he just bought out of a shop he ended up in hospital I had to treat him before ambulance got there a heart rate of 205a minute sweats paranoid, halucinations, fearing he was gonna die cos of his rapid heart he was lucky he was young and fit as the heart aint built for that shit.

You choice but he learned a lesson that day my advice is deffo NO"
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That dosnt mean that's the norm for every1, most people have good experiences on them,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have the same discussion with someone who dies mcat etc and ge comes out with the same old shit saying alcohol is sangerous and addictive and the point i make is simply unless you buy from someone dodgy you know or xan be aware of what your pint consists of.

With all the mcat etc its a step into unknown and so when i hear or read of folk dying from illegal substance abuse i have zero sympathy as it is a lifestyle choice.

Buying spirits from a shop is just as dangerous. Do you realise how many shops are selling counterfeit alcohol with out realising it. One shop close to ours had 9 boxes of different spirits took away off customs because it was counterfeit. You don't know what is in it as its knocked up in a warehouse by people that don't care what it does to someone. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i have just been directed to a website that offers legal highs. anyone tried them?

ANy good or big no no?"

Did you not read the news about the chinese company selling these substances with baby's body parts in the ingredients? ~_~

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"I met a 14 year old boy when he busrt into my work with his pals who had taken some stuff he just bought out of a shop he ended up in hospital I had to treat him before ambulance got there a heart rate of 205a minute sweats paranoid, halucinations, fearing he was gonna die cos of his rapid heart he was lucky he was young and fit as the heart aint built for that shit.

You choice but he learned a lesson that day my advice is deffo NO.

That dosnt mean that's the norm for every1, most people have good experiences on them, "

Prob with that theory is you don't know until its too late.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I watched a programme about this a while back. The paramedics and ER staff actually said they prefer it when they get a patient who has had a bad time with cocaine/ecstasy etc as they at least have a base to start from with treatment. These legal highs can contain anything. Look at the press coverage for mcat (meow meow) a while back. Lethal stuff! A shop near to me sells 'legal highs' and they have warnings about over consumption so obviously aren't that safe!! "

There's actually little evidence if any that the chemical compounds in mcat alone were directly responsible for the death of anyone.

misadventure possibly. but not the chemical itself.

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham


"I have the same discussion with someone who dies mcat etc and ge comes out with the same old shit saying alcohol is sangerous and addictive and the point i make is simply unless you buy from someone dodgy you know or xan be aware of what your pint consists of.

With all the mcat etc its a step into unknown and so when i hear or read of folk dying from illegal substance abuse i have zero sympathy as it is a lifestyle choice.

Buying spirits from a shop is just as dangerous. Do you realise how many shops are selling counterfeit alcohol with out realising it. One shop close to ours had 9 boxes of different spirits took away off customs because it was counterfeit. You don't know what is in it as its knocked up in a warehouse by people that don't care what it does to someone. "

Why mention counterfeit alcohol ? The real thing is pretty deadly - a bottle of scotch can easily kill someone if they drank it in one hit. Every so often some teenager tries it (usually for a dare) and ends up dead.

If the government were serious about banning deadly drugs, they'd start with alcohol and tobacco. Since they haven't, we have concluded they aren't serious.

Never listen to what they say. Watch what they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldnt touch em. Like me to much lol

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

Tesco own brand cold and flu remedy work for me.

Got no idea what is in them, but they make me go really hyper. The effects from one dose of tablets can last for about 3 hours.

I don't think it's the caffeine because I drink loads of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tesco own brand cold and flu remedy work for me.

Got no idea what is in them, but they make me go really hyper. The effects from one dose of tablets can last for about 3 hours.

I don't think it's the caffeine because I drink loads of that. "

Possibly Pseudoephidrine.

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

The problem with legal highs is twofold

Firstly there is no quality control, this is not a regulated industry so they can out any old shite in there that's cheap with the product, you as a consumer haven't a clue

Secondly these agents haven't gone through rigorous testing, you may well be fine taking them just as some people can be fine taking cocaine etc

But you don't know if you've got a problem or condition that means that particular agent is very dangerous for you

I would say the argument that I did it and I'm fine is a lame one overall, I'm sure if enough people played chicken running across the M6 some would survive, that doesn't mean it's safe

Overall it's a bit of a game of Russian roulette but if some people want to play that game it's up to them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i have just been directed to a website that offers legal highs. anyone tried them?

ANy good or big no no?"

Legal doesn't mean safe it means untested and unbanned in most cases. Why you would want to taking things you really don't know what they have an effect on your body is a mystery.

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over a year ago

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By *ICEFITMan
over a year ago

dundee

NO NO NO those things are for idiots, can kill ya!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tesco own brand cold and flu remedy work for me.

Got no idea what is in them, but they make me go really hyper. The effects from one dose of tablets can last for about 3 hours.

I don't think it's the caffeine because I drink loads of that.

Possibly Pseudoephidrine."

Correct. It's also used in the production of Meth Amphetamine..

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

I'd check the box, pseudoephedrine was removed from most medicines a few years ago for that reason

Most now use phenylephrine which hasn't got the same effects

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Some interesting arguments folks,

And some valid points.

SO basically drugs legal or not are drugs and carry a health warning.. Nothing new there. but keep your comments coming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have just been on weekend to Slovakia and seen the effects of so called legal highs on a friend and they were worse than when he takes illegal substances. Bear in mind there is a very small difference in the chemicals of legal and illegal drugs only one chemical compound is changed to get around the law. Also because they are legal to produce and don't have the added cost of being illegally imported and smuggled then product is cheaper than illegal drugs therefore more Of the active ingredient is present in so called legal highs than illegal drugs making overdose a very high risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have the same discussion with someone who dies mcat etc and ge comes out with the same old shit saying alcohol is sangerous and addictive and the point i make is simply unless you buy from someone dodgy you know or xan be aware of what your pint consists of.

With all the mcat etc its a step into unknown and so when i hear or read of folk dying from illegal substance abuse i have zero sympathy as it is a lifestyle choice.

Buying spirits from a shop is just as dangerous. Do you realise how many shops are selling counterfeit alcohol with out realising it. One shop close to ours had 9 boxes of different spirits took away off customs because it was counterfeit. You don't know what is in it as its knocked up in a warehouse by people that don't care what it does to someone.

Why mention counterfeit alcohol ? The real thing is pretty deadly - a bottle of scotch can easily kill someone if they drank it in one hit. Every so often some teenager tries it (usually for a dare) and ends up dead.

If the government were serious about banning deadly drugs, they'd start with alcohol and tobacco. Since they haven't, we have concluded they aren't serious.

Never listen to what they say. Watch what they do."

I mentioned counterfeit alcohol to prove that you don't know what is in half the stuff your buying from a shop that is meant to be legal. So saying you don't know what's in the drugs then going off to have a gin and tonic is a bit hypocritical. But you've got a good point on alcohol killing aswell

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have the same discussion with someone who dies mcat etc and ge comes out with the same old shit saying alcohol is sangerous and addictive and the point i make is simply unless you buy from someone dodgy you know or xan be aware of what your pint consists of.

With all the mcat etc its a step into unknown and so when i hear or read of folk dying from illegal substance abuse i have zero sympathy as it is a lifestyle choice.

Buying spirits from a shop is just as dangerous. Do you realise how many shops are selling counterfeit alcohol with out realising it. One shop close to ours had 9 boxes of different spirits took away off customs because it was counterfeit. You don't know what is in it as its knocked up in a warehouse by people that don't care what it does to someone.

Why mention counterfeit alcohol ? The real thing is pretty deadly - a bottle of scotch can easily kill someone if they drank it in one hit. Every so often some teenager tries it (usually for a dare) and ends up dead.

If the government were serious about banning deadly drugs, they'd start with alcohol and tobacco. Since they haven't, we have concluded they aren't serious.

Never listen to what they say. Watch what they do.

I mentioned counterfeit alcohol to prove that you don't know what is in half the stuff your buying from a shop that is meant to be legal. So saying you don't know what's in the drugs then going off to have a gin and tonic is a bit hypocritical. But you've got a good point on alcohol killing aswell"

All very true, and i have seen alcohol be far more damaging to people socially and professionally than any drugs legal or not

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

Indeed although of course as a society we consume alcohol in doses hundreds and thousands times higher than an other legal or illegal drug

If alcohol costed per gram say what cocaine did you'd never see a case of liver disease!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Indeed although of course as a society we consume alcohol in doses hundreds and thousands times higher than an other legal or illegal drug

If alcohol costed per gram say what cocaine did you'd never see a case of liver disease!"

Dont believe that for a second...

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham


"Indeed although of course as a society we consume alcohol in doses hundreds and thousands times higher than an other legal or illegal drug

If alcohol costed per gram say what cocaine did you'd never see a case of liver disease!"

No. You'd just get a massive black market in it. Or people homebrewing more.

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By *usted99Man
over a year ago

Dundee

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