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"Well I usually suck it put the condom on for him No issues handling it to pop it back in Adds to the pleasure " The perfect host | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " Don’t know but I like it | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " Definitely not mate, you’re just in the moment and enjoying it | |||
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"Before I had had a guy hold my clock as under his wife and he has put it in her pussy. ... " Is that what is known as a good time? | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " My guess is, it matters to you. What do you think? What would you like people to say??? Some will say yes, some no and lots will say, does it matter? How about you deciding.. | |||
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"Even better if he sucks it before guiding it in her pussy. " We second this | |||
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"Even better if he sucks it before guiding it in her pussy. " That definitely is better | |||
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"I’d be more than happy to suck it first…one day I hope! " Just go for it Try it to see if you like it | |||
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"No it doesnt make you bi f you help guide the cock into your wife/gf Just makes you a good husband/bf to make sure she’s happy and pleasured" Deffo agree love doing my part in seeing her pleasured | |||
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"I was playing with one couple, I was fingering her clit as he fucked his wife. Every now and again his cock slipped out, eventually I just grabbed it and guided it back in, Then he kept deliberately pulling it out and I at first just popped it back in, then this time i really took hold of it and rubbed his cocks head over her clit before guiding it back. Next time it slipped out I couldn't resist giving it a little suck before putting it back. As he had not objected next time I gave a real deep suck and it just squirted his cum all in my mouth." Wow that sounds like so much fun | |||
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"I'm not bi but have been guided into another wifes pussy." Having someone touch your cock doesn’t make you bi so no need to protest so much | |||
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"I get this. The first time we did this the other guy popped out and I very nearly just put him back in just out of being helpful but stopped myself " Honestly, this is just being the helpful wingman. Just helping another guy out who probably doesn’t have hands free. However the feeling and realisation that someone has just gripped you and guided you back in is just so goddam horny… 😈 | |||
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"Why label things ? Just go with the flow And what ever makes you happy " Good point | |||
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"This is how I started, the more mmf you do the more confident around another cock you become" thats so true. | |||
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"Yes, and if your doing dvp rubbing cock together.....bi !!" Time to change our sexuality then, all horny AF though lol | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " No , i wouldn’t say-it was an issue when hubby is rubbing bhis cock against another when DVP | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women No , i wouldn’t say-it was an issue when hubby is rubbing bhis cock against another when DVP " Does it matter? If so, why?. Surely the important thing is whether or not you enjoy it, and not the name you put on it? Don't sweat the small stuff is my motto! | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " im sure my hubby would appreciate having some recognition sometimes rather than just me . K | |||
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"Don't worry about the label. If it feels good, or you want to try it, then go for it!" This | |||
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"Don't worry about the label. If it feels good, or you want to try it, then go for it! This " I’d love to guide another cock into my wife | |||
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"Don't worry about the label. If it feels good, or you want to try it, then go for it! This I’d love to guide another cock into my wife " What is the issue? If you enjoy do it! Do labels matter so much? People are so judgemental! | |||
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"Even better if he sucks it before guiding it in her pussy. We second this " I third it! So hot! | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " Any hubby’s want to guide me in there Mrs | |||
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"I guess it depends if there is a desire to wank or suck said cock, certainly curious I would suggest With no intention to wank or suck just purely guide it back in to the hole and continue with fucking " Nah, just part of the sex session. | |||
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"Even better if he sucks it before guiding it in her pussy. " Yes please | |||
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"Think if your open to a mmf probably more than aware cocks are going to clash and touch at some point" The hard (!) facts of DP and DVP for the guys. If you’re not comfortable with intimate male contact then it’s definitely not for you. Males must be perfectly comfortable and not worried about catching the they, hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the task as they’re naturally uninhibited and are going to be into it. Yes, your cocks will be touching.. a lot. It feels incredibly intense. In DVP they will literally be rubbing up and down each other in the lucky ladies pussy. The husband is probably not going to be wanting to wear a condom, which is fair, it’s his wife after all. Yes, you will likely have to handle the other guys cock, it’s almost certain to happen, you might even have to lube it up too. You will need to be the ultimate wingman bro, as the Anchor (the guy on his back) isn’t likely to be able to reach around and position his cock and guide it in, so you or the lady might have to do it for him. Pro pornstars make it look easy… It isn’t, you need rock hard generous length cocks (if you are ‘pushing rope’ it’s impossible, don’t even try). For the smaller sized / inexperienced ladies both cocks being girthy will be an issue that will require a lot of deep breathing and a zen-like focus on relaxing whatever hole is in play (obviously DP needs your bum hole ready for anal sex, DVP will need your foof ideally in an already well fucked and stretched, relaxed condition). A sense of fun and humour and patience is essential. Did I say the cocks must be hard..? Weirdly thigh length of the behind guy is important and needs to match the lady. Petite short lady taking a 6’7” guy behind will make DP / DVP awkward if everyone is on the bed… If you’re fucking her right, and doing your job properly then you’re going to have to get in a rhythm… DVP is best where the two cocks are moving in opposition… one on the instroke whilst the other is on the out and yes, your ballsacks will be slapping together. If a cock comes out, which it will, do have a little sympathy for the lady when sticking it back in please, do it slowly and gently; your DVP bro might have to stop and wait for you to get back on that ride… Now for a bit of a sticky issue… cum. Be prepared for one of you to come quickly because the sensations are intense and overwhelming (I can only last a minute or two DVP and I’m gone). My experience is that feeling the pulse of the husbands cock as he starts to cum, feeling the spurt and the change of lubricant levels will set you off as well almost immediately. If you are the Anchor, gravity will dictate that cum will flow and drip downwards. You will need to be okay with the feeling of another man’s cum, possibly your own as well, running down your ballsack, creeping across your gooch and possibly lingering in your arsehole. Did I say that hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the job…? DVP and DP are both amazing things to do, fun, incredibly hot and the loudest shout I’ve ever heard from a hotel room is all three participants coming at the same time… 😈 | |||
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"Think if your open to a mmf probably more than aware cocks are going to clash and touch at some point The hard (!) facts of DP and DVP for the guys. If you’re not comfortable with intimate male contact then it’s definitely not for you. Males must be perfectly comfortable and not worried about catching the they, hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the task as they’re naturally uninhibited and are going to be into it. Yes, your cocks will be touching.. a lot. It feels incredibly intense. In DVP they will literally be rubbing up and down each other in the lucky ladies pussy. The husband is probably not going to be wanting to wear a condom, which is fair, it’s his wife after all. Yes, you will likely have to handle the other guys cock, it’s almost certain to happen, you might even have to lube it up too. You will need to be the ultimate wingman bro, as the Anchor (the guy on his back) isn’t likely to be able to reach around and position his cock and guide it in, so you or the lady might have to do it for him. Pro pornstars make it look easy… It isn’t, you need rock hard generous length cocks (if you are ‘pushing rope’ it’s impossible, don’t even try). For the smaller sized / inexperienced ladies both cocks being girthy will be an issue that will require a lot of deep breathing and a zen-like focus on relaxing whatever hole is in play (obviously DP needs your bum hole ready for anal sex, DVP will need your foof ideally in an already well fucked and stretched, relaxed condition). A sense of fun and humour and patience is essential. Did I say the cocks must be hard..? Weirdly thigh length of the behind guy is important and needs to match the lady. Petite short lady taking a 6’7” guy behind will make DP / DVP awkward if everyone is on the bed… If you’re fucking her right, and doing your job properly then you’re going to have to get in a rhythm… DVP is best where the two cocks are moving in opposition… one on the instroke whilst the other is on the out and yes, your ballsacks will be slapping together. If a cock comes out, which it will, do have a little sympathy for the lady when sticking it back in please, do it slowly and gently; your DVP bro might have to stop and wait for you to get back on that ride… Now for a bit of a sticky issue… cum. Be prepared for one of you to come quickly because the sensations are intense and overwhelming (I can only last a minute or two DVP and I’m gone). My experience is that feeling the pulse of the husbands cock as he starts to cum, feeling the spurt and the change of lubricant levels will set you off as well almost immediately. If you are the Anchor, gravity will dictate that cum will flow and drip downwards. You will need to be okay with the feeling of another man’s cum, possibly your own as well, running down your ballsack, creeping across your gooch and possibly lingering in your arsehole. Did I say that hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the job…? DVP and DP are both amazing things to do, fun, incredibly hot and the loudest shout I’ve ever heard from a hotel room is all three participants coming at the same time… 😈" I know it wasn’t your aim but that’s turned me right on | |||
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"Think if your open to a mmf probably more than aware cocks are going to clash and touch at some point The hard (!) facts of DP and DVP for the guys. If you’re not comfortable with intimate male contact then it’s definitely not for you. Males must be perfectly comfortable and not worried about catching the they, hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the task as they’re naturally uninhibited and are going to be into it. Yes, your cocks will be touching.. a lot. It feels incredibly intense. In DVP they will literally be rubbing up and down each other in the lucky ladies pussy. The husband is probably not going to be wanting to wear a condom, which is fair, it’s his wife after all. Yes, you will likely have to handle the other guys cock, it’s almost certain to happen, you might even have to lube it up too. You will need to be the ultimate wingman bro, as the Anchor (the guy on his back) isn’t likely to be able to reach around and position his cock and guide it in, so you or the lady might have to do it for him. Pro pornstars make it look easy… It isn’t, you need rock hard generous length cocks (if you are ‘pushing rope’ it’s impossible, don’t even try). For the smaller sized / inexperienced ladies both cocks being girthy will be an issue that will require a lot of deep breathing and a zen-like focus on relaxing whatever hole is in play (obviously DP needs your bum hole ready for anal sex, DVP will need your foof ideally in an already well fucked and stretched, relaxed condition). A sense of fun and humour and patience is essential. Did I say the cocks must be hard..? Weirdly thigh length of the behind guy is important and needs to match the lady. Petite short lady taking a 6’7” guy behind will make DP / DVP awkward if everyone is on the bed… If you’re fucking her right, and doing your job properly then you’re going to have to get in a rhythm… DVP is best where the two cocks are moving in opposition… one on the instroke whilst the other is on the out and yes, your ballsacks will be slapping together. If a cock comes out, which it will, do have a little sympathy for the lady when sticking it back in please, do it slowly and gently; your DVP bro might have to stop and wait for you to get back on that ride… Now for a bit of a sticky issue… cum. Be prepared for one of you to come quickly because the sensations are intense and overwhelming (I can only last a minute or two DVP and I’m gone). My experience is that feeling the pulse of the husbands cock as he starts to cum, feeling the spurt and the change of lubricant levels will set you off as well almost immediately. If you are the Anchor, gravity will dictate that cum will flow and drip downwards. You will need to be okay with the feeling of another man’s cum, possibly your own as well, running down your ballsack, creeping across your gooch and possibly lingering in your arsehole. Did I say that hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the job…? DVP and DP are both amazing things to do, fun, incredibly hot and the loudest shout I’ve ever heard from a hotel room is all three participants coming at the same time… 😈 I know it wasn’t your aim but that’s turned me right on " 😆 I’ve been asked to put this in a new thread dedicated to DVP and DP which I’ve done. I was aroused writing it… so many fucking amazing memories and images stored in the Wank Bank 😈🤩 | |||
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"Think if your open to a mmf probably more than aware cocks are going to clash and touch at some point The hard (!) facts of DP and DVP for the guys. If you’re not comfortable with intimate male contact then it’s definitely not for you. Males must be perfectly comfortable and not worried about catching the they, hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the task as they’re naturally uninhibited and are going to be into it. Yes, your cocks will be touching.. a lot. It feels incredibly intense. In DVP they will literally be rubbing up and down each other in the lucky ladies pussy. The husband is probably not going to be wanting to wear a condom, which is fair, it’s his wife after all. Yes, you will likely have to handle the other guys cock, it’s almost certain to happen, you might even have to lube it up too. You will need to be the ultimate wingman bro, as the Anchor (the guy on his back) isn’t likely to be able to reach around and position his cock and guide it in, so you or the lady might have to do it for him. Pro pornstars make it look easy… It isn’t, you need rock hard generous length cocks (if you are ‘pushing rope’ it’s impossible, don’t even try). For the smaller sized / inexperienced ladies both cocks being girthy will be an issue that will require a lot of deep breathing and a zen-like focus on relaxing whatever hole is in play (obviously DP needs your bum hole ready for anal sex, DVP will need your foof ideally in an already well fucked and stretched, relaxed condition). A sense of fun and humour and patience is essential. Did I say the cocks must be hard..? Weirdly thigh length of the behind guy is important and needs to match the lady. Petite short lady taking a 6’7” guy behind will make DP / DVP awkward if everyone is on the bed… If you’re fucking her right, and doing your job properly then you’re going to have to get in a rhythm… DVP is best where the two cocks are moving in opposition… one on the instroke whilst the other is on the out and yes, your ballsacks will be slapping together. If a cock comes out, which it will, do have a little sympathy for the lady when sticking it back in please, do it slowly and gently; your DVP bro might have to stop and wait for you to get back on that ride… Now for a bit of a sticky issue… cum. Be prepared for one of you to come quickly because the sensations are intense and overwhelming (I can only last a minute or two DVP and I’m gone). My experience is that feeling the pulse of the husbands cock as he starts to cum, feeling the spurt and the change of lubricant levels will set you off as well almost immediately. If you are the Anchor, gravity will dictate that cum will flow and drip downwards. You will need to be okay with the feeling of another man’s cum, possibly your own as well, running down your ballsack, creeping across your gooch and possibly lingering in your arsehole. Did I say that hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the job…? DVP and DP are both amazing things to do, fun, incredibly hot and the loudest shout I’ve ever heard from a hotel room is all three participants coming at the same time… 😈" Sounds amazing! | |||
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"Think if your open to a mmf probably more than aware cocks are going to clash and touch at some point The hard (!) facts of DP and DVP for the guys. If you’re not comfortable with intimate male contact then it’s definitely not for you. Males must be perfectly comfortable and not worried about catching the they, hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the task as they’re naturally uninhibited and are going to be into it. Yes, your cocks will be touching.. a lot. It feels incredibly intense. In DVP they will literally be rubbing up and down each other in the lucky ladies pussy. The husband is probably not going to be wanting to wear a condom, which is fair, it’s his wife after all. Yes, you will likely have to handle the other guys cock, it’s almost certain to happen, you might even have to lube it up too. You will need to be the ultimate wingman bro, as the Anchor (the guy on his back) isn’t likely to be able to reach around and position his cock and guide it in, so you or the lady might have to do it for him. Pro pornstars make it look easy… It isn’t, you need rock hard generous length cocks (if you are ‘pushing rope’ it’s impossible, don’t even try). For the smaller sized / inexperienced ladies both cocks being girthy will be an issue that will require a lot of deep breathing and a zen-like focus on relaxing whatever hole is in play (obviously DP needs your bum hole ready for anal sex, DVP will need your foof ideally in an already well fucked and stretched, relaxed condition). A sense of fun and humour and patience is essential. Did I say the cocks must be hard..? Weirdly thigh length of the behind guy is important and needs to match the lady. Petite short lady taking a 6’7” guy behind will make DP / DVP awkward if everyone is on the bed… If you’re fucking her right, and doing your job properly then you’re going to have to get in a rhythm… DVP is best where the two cocks are moving in opposition… one on the instroke whilst the other is on the out and yes, your ballsacks will be slapping together. If a cock comes out, which it will, do have a little sympathy for the lady when sticking it back in please, do it slowly and gently; your DVP bro might have to stop and wait for you to get back on that ride… Now for a bit of a sticky issue… cum. Be prepared for one of you to come quickly because the sensations are intense and overwhelming (I can only last a minute or two DVP and I’m gone). My experience is that feeling the pulse of the husbands cock as he starts to cum, feeling the spurt and the change of lubricant levels will set you off as well almost immediately. If you are the Anchor, gravity will dictate that cum will flow and drip downwards. You will need to be okay with the feeling of another man’s cum, possibly your own as well, running down your ballsack, creeping across your gooch and possibly lingering in your arsehole. Did I say that hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the job…? DVP and DP are both amazing things to do, fun, incredibly hot and the loudest shout I’ve ever heard from a hotel room is all three participants coming at the same time… 😈" Perfectly described and so accurate | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " It is really up to you how you define yourself. | |||
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"Think if your open to a mmf probably more than aware cocks are going to clash and touch at some point The hard (!) facts of DP and DVP for the guys. If you’re not comfortable with intimate male contact then it’s definitely not for you. Males must be perfectly comfortable and not worried about catching the they, hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the task as they’re naturally uninhibited and are going to be into it. Yes, your cocks will be touching.. a lot. It feels incredibly intense. In DVP they will literally be rubbing up and down each other in the lucky ladies pussy. The husband is probably not going to be wanting to wear a condom, which is fair, it’s his wife after all. Yes, you will likely have to handle the other guys cock, it’s almost certain to happen, you might even have to lube it up too. You will need to be the ultimate wingman bro, as the Anchor (the guy on his back) isn’t likely to be able to reach around and position his cock and guide it in, so you or the lady might have to do it for him. Pro pornstars make it look easy… It isn’t, you need rock hard generous length cocks (if you are ‘pushing rope’ it’s impossible, don’t even try). For the smaller sized / inexperienced ladies both cocks being girthy will be an issue that will require a lot of deep breathing and a zen-like focus on relaxing whatever hole is in play (obviously DP needs your bum hole ready for anal sex, DVP will need your foof ideally in an already well fucked and stretched, relaxed condition). A sense of fun and humour and patience is essential. Did I say the cocks must be hard..? Weirdly thigh length of the behind guy is important and needs to match the lady. Petite short lady taking a 6’7” guy behind will make DP / DVP awkward if everyone is on the bed… If you’re fucking her right, and doing your job properly then you’re going to have to get in a rhythm… DVP is best where the two cocks are moving in opposition… one on the instroke whilst the other is on the out and yes, your ballsacks will be slapping together. If a cock comes out, which it will, do have a little sympathy for the lady when sticking it back in please, do it slowly and gently; your DVP bro might have to stop and wait for you to get back on that ride… Now for a bit of a sticky issue… cum. Be prepared for one of you to come quickly because the sensations are intense and overwhelming (I can only last a minute or two DVP and I’m gone). My experience is that feeling the pulse of the husbands cock as he starts to cum, feeling the spurt and the change of lubricant levels will set you off as well almost immediately. If you are the Anchor, gravity will dictate that cum will flow and drip downwards. You will need to be okay with the feeling of another man’s cum, possibly your own as well, running down your ballsack, creeping across your gooch and possibly lingering in your arsehole. Did I say that hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the job…? DVP and DP are both amazing things to do, fun, incredibly hot and the loudest shout I’ve ever heard from a hotel room is all three participants coming at the same time… 😈 Perfectly described and so accurate " We second this yet every thing described so well here is incredibly horny for dvp | |||
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"Think if your open to a mmf probably more than aware cocks are going to clash and touch at some point The hard (!) facts of DP and DVP for the guys. If you’re not comfortable with intimate male contact then it’s definitely not for you. Males must be perfectly comfortable and not worried about catching the they, hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the task as they’re naturally uninhibited and are going to be into it. Yes, your cocks will be touching.. a lot. It feels incredibly intense. In DVP they will literally be rubbing up and down each other in the lucky ladies pussy. The husband is probably not going to be wanting to wear a condom, which is fair, it’s his wife after all. Yes, you will likely have to handle the other guys cock, it’s almost certain to happen, you might even have to lube it up too. You will need to be the ultimate wingman bro, as the Anchor (the guy on his back) isn’t likely to be able to reach around and position his cock and guide it in, so you or the lady might have to do it for him. Pro pornstars make it look easy… It isn’t, you need rock hard generous length cocks (if you are ‘pushing rope’ it’s impossible, don’t even try). For the smaller sized / inexperienced ladies both cocks being girthy will be an issue that will require a lot of deep breathing and a zen-like focus on relaxing whatever hole is in play (obviously DP needs your bum hole ready for anal sex, DVP will need your foof ideally in an already well fucked and stretched, relaxed condition). A sense of fun and humour and patience is essential. Did I say the cocks must be hard..? Weirdly thigh length of the behind guy is important and needs to match the lady. Petite short lady taking a 6’7” guy behind will make DP / DVP awkward if everyone is on the bed… If you’re fucking her right, and doing your job properly then you’re going to have to get in a rhythm… DVP is best where the two cocks are moving in opposition… one on the instroke whilst the other is on the out and yes, your ballsacks will be slapping together. If a cock comes out, which it will, do have a little sympathy for the lady when sticking it back in please, do it slowly and gently; your DVP bro might have to stop and wait for you to get back on that ride… Now for a bit of a sticky issue… cum. Be prepared for one of you to come quickly because the sensations are intense and overwhelming (I can only last a minute or two DVP and I’m gone). My experience is that feeling the pulse of the husbands cock as he starts to cum, feeling the spurt and the change of lubricant levels will set you off as well almost immediately. If you are the Anchor, gravity will dictate that cum will flow and drip downwards. You will need to be okay with the feeling of another man’s cum, possibly your own as well, running down your ballsack, creeping across your gooch and possibly lingering in your arsehole. Did I say that hetero-flexible / bi guys are the best for the job…? DVP and DP are both amazing things to do, fun, incredibly hot and the loudest shout I’ve ever heard from a hotel room is all three participants coming at the same time… 😈" It happened to me exactly as you described it But I am straight | |||
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"Well I usually suck it put the condom on for him No issues handling it to pop it back in Adds to the pleasure " Exactly as it should be! | |||
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"Well I usually suck it put the condom on for him No issues handling it to pop it back in Adds to the pleasure Exactly as it should be! " We definitely second this!! | |||
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"Well I usually suck it put the condom on for him No issues handling it to pop it back in Adds to the pleasure " We have done this a few times exactly how’s it’s meant to be done in our books. Adds to the excitement all round. | |||
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"Well I usually suck it put the condom on for him No issues handling it to pop it back in Adds to the pleasure We have done this a few times exactly how’s it’s meant to be done in our books. Adds to the excitement all round." Love the sound of this | |||
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"Well I usually suck it put the condom on for him No issues handling it to pop it back in Adds to the pleasure " Sounds good to me | |||
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"This is how we try to play lately and love if" I would enjoy been guided back in. | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " Who cares? doing DP/DVP involves cocks touching and being in close proximity to each other for one of the ultimate experiences in three way sexual pleasure, just enjoy | |||
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"If cuck is present I enjoy having him guide me in. Often times to fluff me first, and to clean up after. " they are so lucky to be cuckolded by a guy who enjoys their service to him | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " you are bi curious or bisexual if you identify as such, simple as really | |||
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"Have also been guided into cuck by his Mrs.....that was very enjoyable for both me and her. Cuck endured." Recently I was with a bi couple, she decided that she wanted to be the one to guide his cock into me, before then riding my cock. Photo on my page | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women you are bi curious or bisexual if you identify as such, simple as really " I don't think so because you wouldn't do it with everyone. Maybe once in a while being straight | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " Definitely not. I do it and I'm 100% straight | |||
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"Does it mean you are bi curious/bisexual if you help and guide other cock in pussy while dp or dvp women " It doesn't mean anything other than the 3 of you enjoying it,ive played with couples,but consider myself straight | |||
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"I absolutely love being in a 69 with the wife as she takes cock. Doesn't mean your gay or bi in my eyes, like previous comments, just enjoy the moment x" fully agree! | |||
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"It’s just polite isn’t it?? " _overs4lovers, steamy hot videos | |||
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