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"Feminine trans women are my kryptonite. Share your experiences with a trans woman, or as a trans woman. " I’ll be watching this. | |||
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"I haven't yet but it's on my list to experience a feminine trans woman. I'm new to exploring my curiosity but know I don't fancy guys. I do women, but guys it's just about the cock. With a trans woman it seems like I get the best of both worlds. Boobs, feminine sensuality, the desire to be intimate, kissing, etc... But then there's a dick to play with too. " Not always though | |||
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"Get yourselves to CD/TV days at saunas you will love it " I've been invited to one... | |||
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"I haven't yet but it's on my list to experience a feminine trans woman. I'm new to exploring my curiosity but know I don't fancy guys. I do women, but guys it's just about the cock. With a trans woman it seems like I get the best of both worlds. Boobs, feminine sensuality, the desire to be intimate, kissing, etc... But then there's a dick to play with too. Not always though " So it would seem... | |||
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"Get yourselves to CD/TV days at saunas you will love it " Oooh | |||
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"My ideal scenario is a very fem, convincing TS with big boobs fucking me whilst I’m flat on my back so I can watch her boobs jiggle and I suck hubby off simultaneously. Then both unload on me at the same time. A girl can dream " Nice | |||
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"As I state on my profile: A trans woman is like opening a pack of crisps in a church, everyone looks at us but deep down you know you want one." Omg I love this 😂 | |||
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"As I state on my profile: A trans woman is like opening a pack of crisps in a church, everyone looks at us but deep down you know you want one." great way of putting it 🤣 | |||
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"love Trans and so lucky my partner Aleisha is one xx" And absolutely beautiful she is too 🥰 | |||
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"As I state on my profile: A trans woman is like opening a pack of crisps in a church, everyone looks at us but deep down you know you want one." Great line | |||
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"Never been with a trans woman " If you ever get the chance to, just remember to treat her like a human and not something to tick off your checklist and you’re sure to have an awesome time 🎉😉 | |||
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"I'm really looking to meet a trans woman. Finding it difficult for some reason." Same here. | |||
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"I'm really looking to meet a trans woman. Finding it difficult for some reason. Same here. " Same, would love the opportunity | |||
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"So my attraction to convincing trans women and transvestites is femininity with a cock. I like to play with a cock that's not mine. So, if you don't like your cock touched or have had it removed then I might as well go with a woman. Just sayin' 🤷🏾♂️" Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all, in fact I wish more people were as forward thinking sometimes | |||
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"So many beautiful women on this post x" I'll second that. | |||
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"As I state on my profile: A trans woman is like opening a pack of crisps in a church, everyone looks at us but deep down you know you want one." I want one | |||
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"As I state on my profile: A trans woman is like opening a pack of crisps in a church, everyone looks at us but deep down you know you want one. I want one " Be careful though, we can be like Pringles, once you pop you can’t stop 🤭 | |||
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"I've found there to be a huge difference between people who want to 'try' a Tgirl and those who go to Trans events like LFF and see us as people rather than a bucket list item " Yes, to read some of the posts waxing lyrically about the joys of being with a trans woman you'd think they had an extra hole or something that ordinary humans don't have. | |||
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"One thing I’ll never understand is tgirls who go gay when dressed but are totally straight when not. That’s taking roleplay a bit far isn’t it? " Isn't that a bit like me fancying a convincing T-girl and enjoying sucking her cock but the thought of sucking a bearded bloke's (or any man that's not convincingly dressed as a woman) cock makes me feel a little sick? 🤷🏾♂️ | |||
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"One thing I’ll never understand is tgirls who go gay when dressed but are totally straight when not. That’s taking roleplay a bit far isn’t it? Isn't that a bit like me fancying a convincing T-girl and enjoying sucking her cock but the thought of sucking a bearded bloke's (or any man that's not convincingly dressed as a woman) cock makes me feel a little sick? 🤷🏾♂️ " I don’t know. Maybe | |||
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"i have a trans friend who is hot and shes quite rare as in she likes to top and treats me like the cuck i am beautiful lady and she loves to do this infront of mrs " Nice . Lucky you. | |||
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"Get yourselves to CD/TV days at saunas you will love it " Title fir this was trans...... | |||
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"As I state on my profile: A trans woman is like opening a pack of crisps in a church, everyone looks at us but deep down you know you want one. I want one Be careful though, we can be like Pringles, once you pop you can’t stop 🤭" | |||
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"Feminine trans women are my kryptonite. Share your experiences with a trans woman, or as a trans woman. " In my experience, forget the trans bit, chat with as any other woman, meet as any other woman, treat with human dignity as any other person, enjoy your time with as with all women - oh sometimes bits may be a little different, get over it and enjoy the delights of the person you're with. | |||
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"Feminine trans women are my kryptonite. Share your experiences with a trans woman, or as a trans woman. In my experience, forget the trans bit, chat with as any other woman, meet as any other woman, treat with human dignity as any other person, enjoy your time with as with all women - oh sometimes bits may be a little different, get over it and enjoy the delights of the person you're with." 👆this guy knows how it’s done 👍 | |||
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"So my attraction to convincing trans women and transvestites is femininity with a cock. I like to play with a cock that's not mine. So, if you don't like your cock touched or have had it removed then I might as well go with a woman. Just sayin' 🤷🏾♂️" Very true | |||
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"One thing I’ll never understand is tgirls who go gay when dressed but are totally straight when not. That’s taking roleplay a bit far isn’t it? " That would be me, I don't understand it myself. | |||
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"Feminine trans women are my kryptonite. Share your experiences with a trans woman, or as a trans woman. " We have been looking for a convincing TV or trans to join us but never been so lucky sadly. One of our biggest sexual fantasies | |||
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"Since my late 30s i have been playing, dating and accompanying tgirls to events etc. I dont look at them as T, merely pretty girls in need of company. I am attracted to them and their femininity and have had some of my happiest and most fulfilling experiences with them.I have even enjoyed the company of fems and T at the same time. Delicious!!!! Guys, dont be afraid, take the bull by the horn and move forward. You may find you like it!!" I think our paths crossed a while ago at Linertines?? Your approach is absolutely spot on, treat us as ladies … and not a bucket list tick … most in here simply do not get this! R x | |||
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"I like non pushy or non arrogant men. Those who make a compliment on my effort to dress is always welcome. " very nice choice of dress.. | |||
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"Feminine trans women are my kryptonite. Share your experiences with a trans woman, or as a trans woman. In my experience, forget the trans bit, chat with as any other woman, meet as any other woman, treat with human dignity as any other person, enjoy your time with as with all women - oh sometimes bits may be a little different, get over it and enjoy the delights of the person you're with. 👆this guy knows how it’s done 👍 " Wow you look amazing I must say x | |||
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"Trans women do seduction like no one else" Oh please 🙄 | |||
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"Do crossdressers count? 🤷🏻♀️" Yeah, why not? The thread is supposed to be about trans women, not transvestites, but the TVs join in, as usual, and most of the bloke respondents don't know the difference so yeah, fill yer boots. | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x" No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards." So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x" That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards.So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x" yes if you are feminine & attractive it obviously helps, there is also a big difference between TS who want to be women & TV s who just enjoy dressing & sex | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that..." It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x" Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly." I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x " I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? " I'm not upset about the natural state of anyone, you are what you are and that's that. However for someone who is obviously not identifying with how they were born, to go through what they need to go through to align their physical being with how they perceive themselves, only to find that what they have desired for so long is still considered not convincing must be upsetting for them and I feel for them. They will have ideals about how they would like to present at the end of their journey only to be told that what they've gone through doesn't match up with the traditional form of femininity must sting. Mrs x | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? I'm not upset about the natural state of anyone, you are what you are and that's that. However for someone who is obviously not identifying with how they were born, to go through what they need to go through to align their physical being with how they perceive themselves, only to find that what they have desired for so long is still considered not convincing must be upsetting for them and I feel for them. They will have ideals about how they would like to present at the end of their journey only to be told that what they've gone through doesn't match up with the traditional form of femininity must sting. Mrs x" If you don’t mind me rude and jumping in here? The idea of “passing” and “not passing” has long been a thing with the trans people I know and definitely an issue that causes confidence issues. What I’d say as someone with trans friends outside of fab is that the community is much more supportive of it than here, and like many things on fab the “convincing” part is often as much porn led fantasy as an actual desire | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? I'm not upset about the natural state of anyone, you are what you are and that's that. However for someone who is obviously not identifying with how they were born, to go through what they need to go through to align their physical being with how they perceive themselves, only to find that what they have desired for so long is still considered not convincing must be upsetting for them and I feel for them. They will have ideals about how they would like to present at the end of their journey only to be told that what they've gone through doesn't match up with the traditional form of femininity must sting. Mrs x" I agree with everything you've said Mrs Air, but I'll continue to fuck who I want to fuck. | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? I'm not upset about the natural state of anyone, you are what you are and that's that. However for someone who is obviously not identifying with how they were born, to go through what they need to go through to align their physical being with how they perceive themselves, only to find that what they have desired for so long is still considered not convincing must be upsetting for them and I feel for them. They will have ideals about how they would like to present at the end of their journey only to be told that what they've gone through doesn't match up with the traditional form of femininity must sting. Mrs x" I think transitioning is more about being at ease with your own body rater than making you more attractive to a partner | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? I'm not upset about the natural state of anyone, you are what you are and that's that. However for someone who is obviously not identifying with how they were born, to go through what they need to go through to align their physical being with how they perceive themselves, only to find that what they have desired for so long is still considered not convincing must be upsetting for them and I feel for them. They will have ideals about how they would like to present at the end of their journey only to be told that what they've gone through doesn't match up with the traditional form of femininity must sting. Mrs x I think transitioning is more about being at ease with your own body rater than making you more attractive to a partner " Absolutely right. I am not trans, I just like to cross dress, but it’s very much for me and not anyone else | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? I'm not upset about the natural state of anyone, you are what you are and that's that. However for someone who is obviously not identifying with how they were born, to go through what they need to go through to align their physical being with how they perceive themselves, only to find that what they have desired for so long is still considered not convincing must be upsetting for them and I feel for them. They will have ideals about how they would like to present at the end of their journey only to be told that what they've gone through doesn't match up with the traditional form of femininity must sting. Mrs x If you don’t mind me rude and jumping in here? The idea of “passing” and “not passing” has long been a thing with the trans people I know and definitely an issue that causes confidence issues. What I’d say as someone with trans friends outside of fab is that the community is much more supportive of it than here, and like many things on fab the “convincing” part is often as much porn led fantasy as an actual desire" I'm a gynosexual, attracted to femininity, so someone who dresses like a woman but walks like a man, has the jawline of a man and sounds like a man is not convincing to me, no matter how they identify. | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that... It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x Unless they're fairly deluded, as some appear to be, they know how convincing they are. But what is your solution? Isn't it best to be honest and state exactly what you're after? And how are they stigmatised? It's no different to rejecting a female because I consider her to be too fat and ugly. I understand what you are saying but it must be hard to acknowledge that you are unconvincing even after going through all the stuff you have to to transition. As for ugly and fat woman, we can maybe improve our looks through aesthetics and lose weight if we want to do that. Not that I'd do that for anyone else, just for myself. But to want to transition from a guy into a trans woman and then realise you are not particularly convincing as a trans woman must be a blow. Mrs x I said "too fat and ugly", you are neither so there's no need for the "we" 🙂 Yeah, it must be hard but what can I do about it, fuck them regardless? 🙂 And anyway, what about all the men who don't have "really big cocks", the non black guys who aren't "well hung". Do you get upset by their plight? I'm not upset about the natural state of anyone, you are what you are and that's that. However for someone who is obviously not identifying with how they were born, to go through what they need to go through to align their physical being with how they perceive themselves, only to find that what they have desired for so long is still considered not convincing must be upsetting for them and I feel for them. They will have ideals about how they would like to present at the end of their journey only to be told that what they've gone through doesn't match up with the traditional form of femininity must sting. Mrs x If you don’t mind me rude and jumping in here? The idea of “passing” and “not passing” has long been a thing with the trans people I know and definitely an issue that causes confidence issues. What I’d say as someone with trans friends outside of fab is that the community is much more supportive of it than here, and like many things on fab the “convincing” part is often as much porn led fantasy as an actual desire" But as you state it does have an impact on confidence. Whilst knowing that people in the trans community support others with their issues surrounding this people don't live their lives in their entirety within their own communities and must venture into the wider communities at times. It's this that I'm talking about, not just on here where everything is skewed. You only have to look at how much attention older woman like myself get on here just because some guys will say anything or do anything to get their cocks wet. I still get the odd admiring glance in the vanilla world but I'm enough of a realist to know my desirability is far less out there than it is here on Fab. So it's those issues that I mean. Feeling as if you need to change to confirm with how you feel you need to be to identify correctly. Then go through this, onky for wider society to say you are not convincing in your new identity. That must hurt and I empathise with trans woman who feel this. And it's not about the 'ugly' argument. To be called, or just if you feel ugly is terrible but you are still a woman, even if you are not attractive to everyone. But to transition obly to be told you are not convincing is different all together I'd imagine. Having to go through all of the pain and suffering involved only to be told you still aren't convincing as a woman is far worse. Mrs x | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that...It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x I can relate to this. I’m at the very start of my journey. Just last month I went out in public for my very first time as Georgia. I received one or two nasty comments which knocked my confidence a bit. " Don't let nasty comments hurt you even women who don't fit a certain standard look wise get abuse. It's part of the course. Keep going regardless, you are your own judge no one can judge you. | |||
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"Seen loads of posts on here about guys wanting to only see convincing or feminine trans woman. So what about the unconvincing and unfemininevtrans woman, would you not want to meet them for some fun? Mrs x No, because most are not convincing, even some of the regular posters in here. Having said that, being the hypocrite that I am, when I attend t-girl events I've been known not to adhere to my own standards. So do you believe there's a kind of hierarchy within the trans community based on traditional standards of femininity and attractiveness? Mrs x That question would best be answered by someone from the trans community but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was yes. I mean, why would it be different from any other community? Pretty privilege and all that...It's the 'convincing' comments that I find a little upsetting. Given the struggles trans people go through to then find they are stigmatised because they don't conform to the standards of traditional female beauty must hurt. Mrs x I can relate to this. I’m at the very start of my journey. Just last month I went out in public for my very first time as Georgia. I received one or two nasty comments which knocked my confidence a bit. Don't let nasty comments hurt you even women who don't fit a certain standard look wise get abuse. It's part of the course. Keep going regardless, you are your own judge no one can judge you." Nasty comments are hard to take and do knock your confidence but you can get passed them, You just have to be happy with who you are and know that 99% of the time you can go out and get no comments at all and even get some good comments from shop staff and others | |||
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"Absolutely love trans women, definitely my preference " All Trans woman though, honestly? Mrs x | |||
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"I love a slim and smooth trans girl. Very hard to find but when you do it’s amazing. " Sounds like you're speaking from experience? | |||
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"I love a slim and smooth trans girl. Very hard to find but when you do it’s amazing. Sounds like you're speaking from experience? " Ohh yes. You are definitely that when we meeting again | |||
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"there are some of us trans women on here " there certainly are | |||
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"there are some of us trans women on here " There’s my favourite one right there 😲 | |||
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"there are some of us trans women on here " And with such amazingly beautiful women like you here what chance do the rest of us mere mortals stand 🥰 | |||
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"We get everywhere " I'd let you everywhere | |||
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"there are some of us trans women on here " And you are one of the best. You'll find many a fab from Hubby on your photos. A long time admirer and wishful thinker. X | |||
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"Having a dick doesn't make you trans" Very true | |||
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"Think they are so hard to find especially locally to me but they are extremely sexy and hot." 100% this. | |||
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"My first expierence in the bdsm scene was an older trans woman and she changed me forever. I love t4t because trans people understand one another and it's a safe space. I don't think saying *feminine trans women* is a nice way of saying it as trans people don't owe 'passing' of other peoples standards " So how should it be expressed if someone's taste is for transwomen that could pass/are convincing? | |||
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"My first expierence in the bdsm scene was an older trans woman and she changed me forever. I love t4t because trans people understand one another and it's a safe space. I don't think saying *feminine trans women* is a nice way of saying it as trans people don't owe 'passing' of other peoples standards " As a trans woman of 15 years now. I disagree on the trans get trans. I have found that not remotely accurate In my interactions / travels round the world meeting various trans people My trans lived experience is often remotely nothing like many others and it’s hugely evident often when meeting others in social environments and talking about life / ease of life / hardships etc I can’t relate at all to plenty of trans. I get what you’re saying that saying it should be safe space but in reality that’s rarely the normative as a collective group. | |||
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