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"As Icing says social attitudes have changed and more people are willing to experiment and be honest about it. As Sam says curiosity comes later in life to some and there are more opportunities to try it now than ever before. " | |||
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"As Icing says social attitudes have changed and more people are willing to experiment and be honest about it. As Sam says curiosity comes later in life to some and there are more opportunities to try it now than ever before. " I'm definitely more than curious and even though I've been having bi fun since my teens I agree opportunities are more frequent now x | |||
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"I wonder if the way gay culture has mainstreamed has an influence on this? Otherwise straight men are now presented with (maybe bombarded with) different behaviours, identities etc which mean bisexuality doesn’t have to mean seeking masculinity. Though no doubt a lot do look for masculinity. " I don’t think “gay culture” in the mainstream has helped anything, because all about stereotypes and doesn’t represent the majority of gay or bi men. If anything it’s leading to a rise in homophobia around the world. But that’s a whole other topic. | |||
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"I wonder if the way gay culture has mainstreamed has an influence on this? Otherwise straight men are now presented with (maybe bombarded with) different behaviours, identities etc which mean bisexuality doesn’t have to mean seeking masculinity. Though no doubt a lot do look for masculinity. " sexual attraction isnt gay, its a pref gay is to love, a fucks a fuck lol | |||
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"And if so why do you think it is ? to expand options , social, desperation. , kink , frustration, Porn or something else And those who have tried it did you enjoy it / regret it/ or find that its just not for u " There’s so many men in Fab, chasing so few women, the offer of “a discreet suck mate, nothing expected in return” becomes ever more tempting……. | |||
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"I wonder if the way gay culture has mainstreamed has an influence on this? Otherwise straight men are now presented with (maybe bombarded with) different behaviours, identities etc which mean bisexuality doesn’t have to mean seeking masculinity. Though no doubt a lot do look for masculinity. I don’t think “gay culture” in the mainstream has helped anything, because all about stereotypes and doesn’t represent the majority of gay or bi men. If anything it’s leading to a rise in homophobia around the world. But that’s a whole other topic." . Interesting that you say that Long, there has undoubtedly been a rise in extreme views on both sides of almost every social topic you care to mention, I personally would say they don't represent the silent/quiet majority though. | |||
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"I wonder if the way gay culture has mainstreamed has an influence on this? Otherwise straight men are now presented with (maybe bombarded with) different behaviours, identities etc which mean bisexuality doesn’t have to mean seeking masculinity. Though no doubt a lot do look for masculinity. sexual attraction isnt gay, its a pref gay is to love, a fucks a fuck lol" Good point. I could have sex with a woman but I couldn’t fall in love with one. | |||
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"Bisexual attraction to both same and opposite sex. But are you really bi if it’s just for sexual pleasure ? This is why we have bi playful or bi romantic, former just experimenting or in the moment and feels good, the latter a relationship is a possibility. I believe I am bisexual because I do have times when I wonder if I could or should be in a same sex relationship. The actual act these days isn’t enough to turn me on I have to actually fancy the man or Tgirl as well. " Same sex relationship you are gay not bi. | |||
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"And if so why do you think it is ? to expand options , social, desperation. , kink , frustration, Porn or something else And those who have tried it did you enjoy it / regret it/ or find that its just not for u " Never looked back from the first curious moment | |||
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"Bisexual attraction to both same and opposite sex. But are you really bi if it’s just for sexual pleasure ? This is why we have bi playful or bi romantic, former just experimenting or in the moment and feels good, the latter a relationship is a possibility. I believe I am bisexual because I do have times when I wonder if I could or should be in a same sex relationship. The actual act these days isn’t enough to turn me on I have to actually fancy the man or Tgirl as well. " . Hmmm I would say yes to "are you bi if it's just sexual" steff, The definition is "sexual and/or romantic" attraction I believe. I do accept that other folks may have their own view on that definition though lol | |||
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"Bisexual attraction to both same and opposite sex. But are you really bi if it’s just for sexual pleasure ? This is why we have bi playful or bi romantic, former just experimenting or in the moment and feels good, the latter a relationship is a possibility. I believe I am bisexual because I do have times when I wonder if I could or should be in a same sex relationship. The actual act these days isn’t enough to turn me on I have to actually fancy the man or Tgirl as well. " That’s a really interesting view point. I, Steve/Amber, consider myself to be 100% fully bi. But I’d never see myself in a relationship with a man. I don’t fancy men, I love playing with men. Well more accurately I enjoy playing with anyone, their physical sex is of no importance. People are people, and all individual. Why should it be ok to play with those born female but not those born male. To answer the original question, I wonder if the ‘real’ world is much more accepting as 20 years ago. I suppose it is. But for me, being in the swing world we are in an exaggerated corner of society. And in swing bisexuality in males is certainly more and more accepted over the last 10 years or so. So much so that clubs that are still stuck in old fashioned ways where it’s not accepted are in the minority and their approach is disapproved by many. I wonder if in another 10 years bi nights will be a thing of the past… they will just be nights. Time will tell. What do others think? X | |||
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"There is so much more acceptance of diverse sexualaties now. In the 80s we were contending with clause 28, completely homophobic right-wing press and "poofs" being an acceptable subject of jokes. Now we have Pride flags at Tesco and same sex couples on TV with little comment. Society has shifted. " fully agree | |||
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"I would imagine woman being openly bisexual far outweighs men. I do think its more common now, maybe we are more open, maybe women feel safer with other women rather than men for a variety of reasons (deadbeat dad, dv,abuse, social media etc.) I'm not sure but it's an interesting topic. " You might think so as a man, but sadly no. I have homophobic girlfriends who if I came out wouldn't understand or would be scared in case I fancied them. And men are worse thinking that bi women are up for threesomes ALL THE TIME. No. | |||
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"I would imagine woman being openly bisexual far outweighs men. I do think its more common now, maybe we are more open, maybe women feel safer with other women rather than men for a variety of reasons (deadbeat dad, dv,abuse, social media etc.) I'm not sure but it's an interesting topic. You might think so as a man, but sadly no. I have homophobic girlfriends who if I came out wouldn't understand or would be scared in case I fancied them. And men are worse thinking that bi women are up for threesomes ALL THE TIME. No." Thanks for the response ,nice to hear your views on an interesting topic. Ultimately it's a sad state of affairs that we can't be open or true to ourselves due to other's perspectives and judgements. | |||
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"I knew I was bi from fairly young age as I realised I was attracted to both male and females in my last few years at school . Actually was intimate with females long before males - in fact being comfortable and play flirty with my best friends (whom I actually wasn’t sexual with) went down well with the guys. Weirdly have always been totally open with my close friends and right from start with husband, but never been able to tell my family as I just don’t think they would understand! I was at secondary school in the late 70s early 80s - definitely never got teased or anything like that but I was probably lucky. " or you were gorgeous and everyone fancied you | |||
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"I knew I was bi from fairly young age as I realised I was attracted to both male and females in my last few years at school . Actually was intimate with females long before males - in fact being comfortable and play flirty with my best friends (whom I actually wasn’t sexual with) went down well with the guys. Weirdly have always been totally open with my close friends and right from start with husband, but never been able to tell my family as I just don’t think they would understand! I was at secondary school in the late 70s early 80s - definitely never got teased or anything like that but I was probably lucky. or you were gorgeous and everyone fancied you " Why thank you kind sir! | |||
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"I knew I was bi from fairly young age as I realised I was attracted to both male and females in my last few years at school . Actually was intimate with females long before males - in fact being comfortable and play flirty with my best friends (whom I actually wasn’t sexual with) went down well with the guys. Weirdly have always been totally open with my close friends and right from start with husband, but never been able to tell my family as I just don’t think they would understand! I was at secondary school in the late 70s early 80s - definitely never got teased or anything like that but I was probably lucky. or you were gorgeous and everyone fancied you Why thank you kind sir! " I'm right aren't I | |||
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"Same sex relationship you are gay not bi." Oh my, this is the kind of authoritative voice that has kept bisexuality in the closet. Lacking insight and wrongly labelling. There are two other issues around bisexuality that may be worth mentioning: Religion and separately Alfred Kinsey. As we become more secular, we are realising how ridiculous being heteronormative is. Gen Z's when they speak to new friends, use gender neutral terms... Like, "oh your partner, so where are you meeting them later?" Alfred Kinsey have said there are two monosexuals at each end of the spectrum: those 10O% hetrosexual and those 100% homosexual. In between is a large section called Bisexuals which is massively varied and to my mind, super interesting! Monosexuals are really quite predictable / boring. | |||
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"And if so why do you think it is ? to expand options , social, desperation. , kink , frustration, Porn or something else And those who have tried it did you enjoy it / regret it/ or find that its just not for u " desperation | |||
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