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By *kid1 OP   Man
over a year ago

erith

As hopefully everyone would agree it is a fantastic way to raise money for people less fortunute than ourselves. Lets hope that all the money raised goes to the people who need it , and not syphoned off along the way by governments and bureaucrats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As hopefully everyone would agree it is a fantastic way to raise money for people less fortunute than ourselves. Lets hope that all the money raised goes to the people who need it , and not syphoned off along the way by governments and bureaucrats. "

Don't most of the presenters get paid too?

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By *kid1 OP   Man
over a year ago

erith


"As hopefully everyone would agree it is a fantastic way to raise money for people less fortunute than ourselves. Lets hope that all the money raised goes to the people who need it , and not syphoned off along the way by governments and bureaucrats.

Don't most of the presenters get paid too? "

Lets have faith in human nature and think they do it for free

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As hopefully everyone would agree it is a fantastic way to raise money for people less fortunute than ourselves. Lets hope that all the money raised goes to the people who need it , and not syphoned off along the way by governments and bureaucrats.

Don't most of the presenters get paid too? "

No they all do it for free..

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"As hopefully everyone would agree it is a fantastic way to raise money for people less fortunute than ourselves. Lets hope that all the money raised goes to the people who need it , and not syphoned off along the way by governments and bureaucrats.

Don't most of the presenters get paid too?

No they all do it for free..

"

Wasn't there a stooshie a few years back about Wogan being paid?

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By *reedy_for_funCouple
over a year ago

My House

Wogan doesn't do comic relief so that's immaterial. The presenters and all involved work for free. Any office costs etc are paid for by interest earned on the total collected. ALL money collected, every single penny, goes to the charities concerned. The government gets and touches nothing, it doesn't even raise taxes off the interest.

Give money in confidence xxx

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By *kid1 OP   Man
over a year ago

erith


"Wogan doesn't do comic relief so that's immaterial. The presenters and all involved work for free. Any office costs etc are paid for by interest earned on the total collected. ALL money collected, every single penny, goes to the charities concerned. The government gets and touches nothing, it doesn't even raise taxes off the interest.

Give money in confidence xxx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's such a nightmare that it still has to happen. There was a silly statistic that apparently the 3 richest people in the world could end poverty.

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford


"Wogan doesn't do comic relief so that's immaterial. The presenters and all involved work for free. Any office costs etc are paid for by interest earned on the total collected. ALL money collected, every single penny, goes to the charities concerned. The government gets and touches nothing, it doesn't even raise taxes off the interest.

Give money in confidence xxx"
do u work for them or something , can u be certain of this how do you know??

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"It's such a nightmare that it still has to happen. There was a silly statistic that apparently the 3 richest people in the world could end poverty. "

Not sure who the 3 richest people are but I do know that the Gates money through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has made them one of the biggest drivers of global poverty reduction.

The Foundation is far from perfect but its a good example of putting your money where your mouth is...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm very sorry if this sounds awful but I am sick to death of children in need, cuc relief etc. Not because I dont think its a good cause but because it is never ending. I've been watching the same images since 1984 with band aid eyc and nothing seems to have changed. Where does this money go? cleRly not to the desperate people who need it

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By *denMan
over a year ago

near Preston

Just a chance for old washed out comedians to get on tv and self publicise. Anyone a fan of Lenny "crap gags" Henry?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no knowledge of the charities supported by Red nose day.

I did live for a while in Khartoum (The Sudan) and witnessed the few really good hotels being filled with administrators for charities operating several hundred miles south.

The charity "workers" on the gravy train in Khartoum never went anywhere near the war zones or areas of extreme famine. Most of the frontline work was carried out by volunteers living in primitive conditions.

I resent my charitable donations supporting suits in posh hotels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no knowledge of the charities supported by Red nose day.

I did live for a while in Khartoum (The Sudan) and witnessed the few really good hotels being filled with administrators for charities operating several hundred miles south.

The charity "workers" on the gravy train in Khartoum never went anywhere near the war zones or areas of extreme famine. Most of the frontline work was carried out by volunteers living in primitive conditions.

I resent my charitable donations supporting suits in posh hotels."

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Wogan doesn't do comic relief so that's immaterial. The presenters and all involved work for free. Any office costs etc are paid for by interest earned on the total collected. ALL money collected, every single penny, goes to the charities concerned. The government gets and touches nothing, it doesn't even raise taxes off the interest.

Give money in confidence xxxdo u work for them or something , can u be certain of this how do you know??"

Just look at their accounts - available on the Charity Commission web-site.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I'm very sorry if this sounds awful but I am sick to death of children in need, cuc relief etc. Not because I dont think its a good cause but because it is never ending. I've been watching the same images since 1984 with band aid eyc and nothing seems to have changed. Where does this money go? cleRly not to the desperate people who need it"

If you look at the poorest areas of London and look at the Charles Booth Poverty Map of London more or less the same areas are still poor. That's here, during relative stability and without huge amounts of disease, with access to water and free school education and a welfare state. Things do change, and have done in my lifetime, but it's hard work and takes a long, long time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm very sorry if this sounds awful but I am sick to death of children in need, cuc relief etc. Not because I dont think its a good cause but because it is never ending. I've been watching the same images since 1984 with band aid eyc and nothing seems to have changed. Where does this money go? cleRly not to the desperate people who need it

If you look at the poorest areas of London and look at the Charles Booth Poverty Map of London more or less the same areas are still poor. That's here, during relative stability and without huge amounts of disease, with access to water and free school education and a welfare state. Things do change, and have done in my lifetime, but it's hard work and takes a long, long time."

With the greatest of respect, that hasn't answered my question. Where does the money actually go?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am soo fed up with this raising money for other countries if u look back over the years not a lot has changed contraception us the answer there are a few ways to do this , we are akways helping out other countries nothing hardly changes we fight ither peoples wars what do they do for our country fuck all. I did use to donate to these causes but only donate for this country take care of own sod the rest pissed of with it too many of our men and womens lifes lost already xx

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

do all these celebs actually put there own hands in pockets, not just i give my time or bring awareness, actually cold hard cash....

the likes of ross and whitehall etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bill Gates has his own personal Charity.

Now thats putting your hands in your pockets.

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford


"Bill Gates has his own personal Charity.

Now thats putting your hands in your pockets.

"
i know that and he is gonna give 5 mill tonite but i mean the norm z listers that get pulled into host etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Used to live in Africa and I can tell u that things happen along the way to mean we need to send more money , help in news ways. The post election violence of Kenya 2010 4example.

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By *eaverfeverCouple
over a year ago

nr Manchester


"do all these celebs actually put there own hands in pockets, not just i give my time or bring awareness, actually cold hard cash....

the likes of ross and whitehall etc etc"

Yes i think they do, most don't shout about it.just do it. Read brad pitt is a big giver!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If u went to a third world country ....you wouldn't see it that way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am soo fed up with this raising money for other countries if u look back over the years not a lot has changed contraception us the answer there are a few ways to do this , we are akways helping out other countries nothing hardly changes we fight ither peoples wars what do they do for our country fuck all. I did use to donate to these causes but only donate for this country take care of own sod the rest pissed of with it too many of our men and womens lifes lost already xx"

Been to Africa ? You really wouldnt have that attitude if u had.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I'm very sorry if this sounds awful but I am sick to death of children in need, cuc relief etc. Not because I dont think its a good cause but because it is never ending. I've been watching the same images since 1984 with band aid eyc and nothing seems to have changed. Where does this money go? cleRly not to the desperate people who need it

If you look at the poorest areas of London and look at the Charles Booth Poverty Map of London more or less the same areas are still poor. That's here, during relative stability and without huge amounts of disease, with access to water and free school education and a welfare state. Things do change, and have done in my lifetime, but it's hard work and takes a long, long time.

With the greatest of respect, that hasn't answered my question. Where does the money actually go?

"

Charities working on the ground. Buying medicines, buying nets, paying for water pumps and people to install them. Care workers here, day centres, anti-bullying projects. Hundreds of charities are supported, millions of people are helped.

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

I think comic relief is a load of rubbish. I dont see the point. I hate it when private profit making organisations and charities get together to try to win customers 'hearts' and win more business. Asda do it and its creepy. Its all about marketing.. involving your stakeholders (customers) in parting with some of their money for cash. Most companies only care about one thing (their bottom line). This country is pretty much in poverty. The BBC should stop charging vulnerable people their daft TV licence and setting up glastonbury parties and acutally do some of their own comic relief for a change. Switch it off.

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

some of the money goes to charity. However with comic relief being involved with so many 'companies' ie: sainsburys then its more of a marketing effort.

If a company takes part in comic relief, then they get to show the world that they 'care'. That sort of reputation is invaluable to companies. The BBC allows companies to market their caring status to the country which helps boost and add value to a brand. The brand could be Sainsburys or any other valued comic relief. The main purpose behind comic relief isnt actualy about starving kids.. its about boosting brands and winning stakeholders (customers) hearts so that they spend more money. The starving kids come second.

If you want to donate money to starving kids (for instance) you can do so any time of year without having to fall trap to marketing activites of big immoral corporation such as the BBC or supermarkets. You can donate straight to charities if you like from any ATM; any time of year when your feeling financially secure.

But these days its a bad idea to give to charity. On our own doorstep poverty is a serious issue. If we could look to each other instead of marketing activities such as comic relief then we would be a stronger country altogether.

In the meantime the bbc pester vulerable poor people for a TV licence that they can not afford... TV licences should be free for those claiming JSA.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think comic relief is a load of rubbish. I dont see the point. I hate it when private profit making organisations and charities get together to try to win customers 'hearts' and win more business. Asda do it and its creepy. Its all about marketing.. involving your stakeholders (customers) in parting with some of their money for cash. Most companies only care about one thing (their bottom line). This country is pretty much in poverty. The BBC should stop charging vulnerable people their daft TV licence and setting up glastonbury parties and acutally do some of their own comic relief for a change. Switch it off. "

Seen the help this money does on the ground in Africa. Made me proud to be British knowing that good folk of the uk help out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This has been going on for decades nothing changes !!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"some of the money goes to charity. However with comic relief being involved with so many 'companies' ie: sainsburys then its more of a marketing effort.

If a company takes part in comic relief, then they get to show the world that they 'care'. That sort of reputation is invaluable to companies. The BBC allows companies to market their caring status to the country which helps boost and add value to a brand. The brand could be Sainsburys or any other valued comic relief. The main purpose behind comic relief isnt actualy about starving kids.. its about boosting brands and winning stakeholders (customers) hearts so that they spend more money. The starving kids come second.

If you want to donate money to starving kids (for instance) you can do so any time of year without having to fall trap to marketing activites of big immoral corporation such as the BBC or supermarkets. You can donate straight to charities if you like from any ATM; any time of year when your feeling financially secure.

But these days its a bad idea to give to charity. On our own doorstep poverty is a serious issue. If we could look to each other instead of marketing activities such as comic relief then we would be a stronger country altogether.

In the meantime the bbc pester vulerable poor people for a TV licence that they can not afford... TV licences should be free for those claiming JSA. "

That would mostly be poppycock.

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"some of the money goes to charity. However with comic relief being involved with so many 'companies' ie: sainsburys then its more of a marketing effort.

If a company takes part in comic relief, then they get to show the world that they 'care'. That sort of reputation is invaluable to companies. The BBC allows companies to market their caring status to the country which helps boost and add value to a brand. The brand could be Sainsburys or any other valued comic relief. The main purpose behind comic relief isnt actualy about starving kids.. its about boosting brands and winning stakeholders (customers) hearts so that they spend more money. The starving kids come second.

If you want to donate money to starving kids (for instance) you can do so any time of year without having to fall trap to marketing activites of big immoral corporation such as the BBC or supermarkets. You can donate straight to charities if you like from any ATM; any time of year when your feeling financially secure.

But these days its a bad idea to give to charity. On our own doorstep poverty is a serious issue. If we could look to each other instead of marketing activities such as comic relief then we would be a stronger country altogether.

In the meantime the bbc pester vulerable poor people for a TV licence that they can not afford... TV licences should be free for those claiming JSA.

That would mostly be poppycock."

Thanks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wogan doesn't do comic relief so that's immaterial. The presenters and all involved work for free. Any office costs etc are paid for by interest earned on the total collected. ALL money collected, every single penny, goes to the charities concerned. The government gets and touches nothing, it doesn't even raise taxes off the interest.

Give money in confidence xxx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"TV licences should be free for those claiming JSA. "

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"TV licences should be free for those claiming JSA.

Why?"

I'll second that.

Why why?

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

because people on jsa can barely afford to survive. They are expected to be able to afford an internet connection to browse jobs and find bus fairs to get to the jobcentre to browse jobs.

People should be helped to find work. there are no jobs available. These are the people who really need help.

Heres a tricky question. Why do people assume Jobseekers are lazy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"because people on jsa can barely afford to survive. They are expected to be able to afford an internet connection to browse jobs and find bus fairs to get to the jobcentre to browse jobs.

People should be helped to find work. there are no jobs available. These are the people who really need help.

Heres a tricky question. Why do people assume Jobseekers are lazy?"

Because they quite often are!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"because people on jsa can barely afford to survive. They are expected to be able to afford an internet connection to browse jobs and find bus fairs to get to the jobcentre to browse jobs.

People should be helped to find work. there are no jobs available. These are the people who really need help.

Heres a tricky question. Why do people assume Jobseekers are lazy?"

Some are, some aren't. Thats the bottom line. Why do you assume that because i asked the question, that i assume jobseekers are lazy?

Whats a tv license have to do with any of what you say about jobseeking?

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

I agree some are just plain lazy but not all. Being unemployed is probably one of the most depressing and frightening experiences you can be in. Suddenly everyone thinks your lazy and good-for-nothing. its very hard to get back into work and genuine jobseekers deserve a lot more credit for being genuine and the dwp should truly recognise and respect them. instead they up up doing 'fake' training courses with very little help to get them back into work.

everyone should want to work and do something with their lives whether its volunteering or working. If i became unemployed again I would have to volunteer but I would ask for time to seek work and use computers to find jobs. But if the jobs dont exist; they dont exist. end of. nothing can be done about it unless you start a business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just got home from a great night out in my local, everyone in fancy dress, loads of stupid but funny games in the cause of charity, just cant quite get my head around the fact that the uk/great britain in this day and age, we need to do fund raising ? were supposed to be a super power and one of the riches countries on the planet ??? why cant we make sure our own people get what the basis funds or help the need to survive and lead a normal life ???? gunna get jumped on by the forum police i know, but lets take care of our own before we help others !!!! im not a racist but think pouring millions of pounds year after year into africa is such a waste of time ? money would be better spent on making sure our own kids get the up bringing they deserve from this country quote

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Europeans raped and pillaged Africa for years, stripped it of it's wealth and built their own countries up in the process......so now we should let them starve?

The problem doesn't lie with the ordinary people of Africa but with their governments and rulers...alas there is not enough oil in Africa to have us ridding the ordinary Africans of their despot rulers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This has been going on for decades nothing changes !!!!!!"

New problems come up! We wouldnt have had a uk charity for sex trafficking in the 80s but we do now . Same with Africa , the post electon violence there left 1000s of children parentless that happened in 2010

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" just got home from a great night out in my local, everyone in fancy dress, loads of stupid but funny games in the cause of charity, just cant quite get my head around the fact that the uk/great britain in this day and age, we need to do fund raising ? were supposed to be a super power and one of the riches countries on the planet ??? why cant we make sure our own people get what the basis funds or help the need to survive and lead a normal life ???? gunna get jumped on by the forum police i know, but lets take care of our own before we help others !!!! im not a racist but think pouring millions of pounds year after year into africa is such a waste of time ? money would be better spent on making sure our own kids get the up bringing they deserve from this country quote "

You wouldn't say this if you had been to Africa I can tell u that now !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We really need to include a better history in schools based on how we got to where we are. It would change a lot of people's views on things like this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"TV licences should be free for those claiming JSA.

Why?"

absolutely....why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" just got home from a great night out in my local, everyone in fancy dress, loads of stupid but funny games in the cause of charity, just cant quite get my head around the fact that the uk/great britain in this day and age, we need to do fund raising ? were supposed to be a super power and one of the riches countries on the planet ??? why cant we make sure our own people get what the basis funds or help the need to survive and lead a normal life ???? gunna get jumped on by the forum police i know, but lets take care of our own before we help others !!!! im not a racist but think pouring millions of pounds year after year into africa is such a waste of time ? money would be better spent on making sure our own kids get the up bringing they deserve from this country quote "

Waste of time how??? we have saved lives!!!!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

interesting these thoughts.... as I have given up my time tonight and help take telephone pledges from comic relief this evening from 9pm to midnight...

if it wasn't something I believed in then I wouldn't do it... and I am glad that the people I have spoken to this evening were not as sceptical and jaded as some of the people on here...

sometimes even though we are hard up and times are tough it is hard to realise that there are people a lot worse off then us....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"interesting these thoughts.... as I have given up my time tonight and help take telephone pledges from comic relief this evening from 9pm to midnight...

if it wasn't something I believed in then I wouldn't do it... and I am glad that the people I have spoken to this evening were not as sceptical and jaded as some of the people on here...

sometimes even though we are hard up and times are tough it is hard to realise that there are people a lot worse off then us.... "

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

A post has been deleted. Have a debate but give the aggressive posts a miss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does wind me up a bit if I'm honest too. I do feel bad for the suffering caused to children and no child should live in the way they do however where does the money go that's from there own government??. Why doesn't the many African gonernments pull together to do something?? This country is broke enough without us sending money to others. Bit like on our local news tonight really sad a girl of 21 having terminal cancer and how she has a bucket list etc and met a few celebs got free shopping trips holidays etc much as its good for her I can't help but think maybe it's for publicity for more freebies. What about others in that same situation her ages or younger also who have terminal cancer they don't go all over the news saying they getting free shopping trips and holidays. I just wonder sometimes I really do. And no I don't give to telivised money raising schemes monthly I give to help for hero's and a local children's hospice where I see my tiny donation being used.

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Africa Africa Africa africa....

Why do people always have to say AFRICA rather than mentioning each country????

I am an africa, and the africa i know have nothing to do with all this nonsense they show on TV

Yes some african countries have their issues due to different reasons. But in those same countries you see people living in mansions driving some ridiculously expensive cars where there is no road.

Someone talked about Kenya, what happened there after 2010 election was pure greed by the politicians to stay in power.

A minister in Kenya got paid more than a minister in France. Is that normal????

Ouganda, Malawi, Sudan, Congo can survive and take care of themselves if they want to

The same images have been shown round and round of sick children to raise money in the name of AFRICA while the real Africa is not like that all.

I see more poverty in people eyes here in Sheffield than i do in BENIN ( that is a country in africa by the way ).

Over there, everybody have the latest gadget, nice houses by the sea with swimming pool, kids go to private school when the parents can afford it. If not the state free school provide a top class education. Nobody die of hanger. But that is still a poor country compared to any european country. All work fine even if there is no oil or natural resources.

You cross the border to Nigeria ( another african country ) , rich, very big, plenty of oil, full of billionaires and corruption...

I can spend 2 hours telling you about how all the money or at least 99% of it end in the wrong hands and pockets.

Charity start at home. You want to help, look at your neighbours.

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

My problem was more with tonight's show tugging at the heart strings every 5 mins at one point before I turned it off I counted 4clips of kids in hospitals dying or close to death in 30 mins I know they want to shock us but it just made the show depressing and so far from funny. I turned it off as it just made the mood too uncomfortable I am not saying we shouldn't support them but charity begins at home we have people living in poverty here and to show one clip in the UK every hour to the 8 in foreign countries seemed excessive.

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By *axwellTattMan
over a year ago

knutsford


"It's such a nightmare that it still has to happen. There was a silly statistic that apparently the 3 richest people in the world could end poverty.

Not sure who the 3 richest people are but I do know that the Gates money through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has made them one of the biggest drivers of global poverty reduction.

The Foundation is far from perfect but its a good example of putting your money where your mouth is..."

well if I was Bill gates I would for a one time offer give the next version of Windows away free it would stop all the fake copies going about maybe as a gesture of good will

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By *axwellTattMan
over a year ago

knutsford


"My problem was more with tonight's show tugging at the heart strings every 5 mins at one point before I turned it off I counted 4clips of kids in hospitals dying or close to death in 30 mins I know they want to shock us but it just made the show depressing and so far from funny. I turned it off as it just made the mood too uncomfortable I am not saying we shouldn't support them but charity begins at home we have people living in poverty here and to show one clip in the UK every hour to the 8 in foreign countries seemed excessive."

i have my mum saying i know all these kids are dying but what about their owes governments and then i have to explain that most of the governments in these countries are corrupt and any aid is pocketed by them, then she goes on to well there's kids here that need help but the do give money to here as well, but i know what you mean about tugging the heart strings it is rather upsetting

any way why are you up this late? or is it early?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Africa Africa Africa africa....

Why do people always have to say AFRICA rather than mentioning each country????

I am an africa, and the africa i know have nothing to do with all this nonsense they show on TV

Yes some african countries have their issues due to different reasons. But in those same countries you see people living in mansions driving some ridiculously expensive cars where there is no road.

Someone talked about Kenya, what happened there after 2010 election was pure greed by the politicians to stay in power.

A minister in Kenya got paid more than a minister in France. Is that normal????

Ouganda, Malawi, Sudan, Congo can survive and take care of themselves if they want to

The same images have been shown round and round of sick children to raise money in the name of AFRICA while the real Africa is not like that all.

I see more poverty in people eyes here in Sheffield than i do in BENIN ( that is a country in africa by the way ).

Over there, everybody have the latest gadget, nice houses by the sea with swimming pool, kids go to private school when the parents can afford it. If not the state free school provide a top class education. Nobody die of hanger. But that is still a poor country compared to any european country. All work fine even if there is no oil or natural resources.

You cross the border to Nigeria ( another african country ) , rich, very big, plenty of oil, full of billionaires and corruption...

I can spend 2 hours telling you about how all the money or at least 99% of it end in the wrong hands and pockets.

Charity start at home. You want to help, look at your neighbours.

"

I don't see my neighbours living in shacks, dying of malnutrition or malaria.

I don't see the children working on rubbish heaps

I do see my neighbours getting benefits and handouts, having toys, going to school, having a doctor they can go to that's just down the road and not having to walk for miles, clean water running in their homes.

Yes there is corruption in these countries, but what can the every day folk do! - there are so many problems in this world and u can't cure them all.. But even a lil helps

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By *utty_JiggleCouple
over a year ago

Black Country


"TV licences should be free for those claiming JSA.

Why?

I'll second that.

Why why?"

My thinking too... Its some of the ones on JSA that watch more telly than the rest.

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By *utty_JiggleCouple
over a year ago

Black Country

Personally I am a big fan of comic relief. I think everyone involved does a great job. And we may not be seeing a big difference in the African countries. As the poverty is just a issue.. But its the ones it does touch. The impact it has on there lives.

Some one mentioned world dept.. This should be scrapped, or at least be interest free for the countries paying it back, then would then at least give them a small chance of reducing it down.

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By *utty_JiggleCouple
over a year ago

Black Country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of the great things about comic relief is that it helps people all over, both here in the UK and abroad so really everyone on here should be happy.

I know it does sometimes seem that nothing changes but things are improving in many places it is just that the problems are so huge that it does take a ling time.

I heard one fact recently and that was 2 weeks of the money the world spends on weapons and military spending would solve giving clean water to everyone in the world. Often it isn't the money or food the world has but how it is spent and distributed that is the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cant actually believe people are complaining about people giving money to help someone else anywhere in the world!!

Here, there, anywhere... if one donation means some other human being has their life affected in a positive manner, how on earth can that be a bad thing?

I think a lot of people use cynicism to help themselves justify the fact that they are self centred and bitter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cant actually believe people are complaining about people giving money to help someone else anywhere in the world!!

Here, there, anywhere... if one donation means some other human being has their life affected in a positive manner, how on earth can that be a bad thing?

I think a lot of people use cynicism to help themselves justify the fact that they are self centred and bitter."

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield


"

I don't see my neighbours living in shacks, dying of malnutrition or malaria.

I don't see the children working on rubbish heaps

I do see my neighbours getting benefits and handouts, having toys, going to school, having a doctor they can go to that's just down the road and not having to walk for miles, clean water running in their homes.

Yes there is corruption in these countries, but what can the every day folk do! - there are so many problems in this world and u can't cure them all.. But even a lil helps"
...I don't see my neighnour in africa starving, he drive a BMW X6 and his wife and kids go to hawaii or dubai for holiday despite him being just a civil servant

But I do see the fears in the eyes of that single mum when checking out in my local tesco if the money she has is enough to pay for the little shopping in her trolley

Yes we need to help, but helping for ever as it is now can only feed the corrupted who are taking that money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree some are just plain lazy but not all. Being unemployed is probably one of the most depressing and frightening experiences you can be in. Suddenly everyone thinks your lazy and good-for-nothing. its very hard to get back into work and genuine jobseekers deserve a lot more credit for being genuine and the dwp should truly recognise and respect them. instead they up up doing 'fake' training courses with very little help to get them back into work.

everyone should want to work and do something with their lives whether its volunteering or working. If i became unemployed again I would have to volunteer but I would ask for time to seek work and use computers to find jobs. But if the jobs dont exist; they dont exist. end of. nothing can be done about it unless you start a business. "

Still no mention of a tv license!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I don't see my neighbours living in shacks, dying of malnutrition or malaria.

I don't see the children working on rubbish heaps

I do see my neighbours getting benefits and handouts, having toys, going to school, having a doctor they can go to that's just down the road and not having to walk for miles, clean water running in their homes.

Yes there is corruption in these countries, but what can the every day folk do! - there are so many problems in this world and u can't cure them all.. But even a lil helps...I don't see my neighnour in africa starving, he drive a BMW X6 and his wife and kids go to hawaii or dubai for holiday despite him being just a civil servant

But I do see the fears in the eyes of that single mum when checking out in my local tesco if the money she has is enough to pay for the little shopping in her trolley

Yes we need to help, but helping for ever as it is now can only feed the corrupted who are taking that money"

Very well said

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

The reason I did it and will always continue to help where I can is when I went to South Africa on a lions rugby tour I got a chance to go into a shanty town... Then you realise that even though you have it though... You don't have it as tough as others...

Until you are face to face with a lot of it you don't tend to realise and. It puts your view into prospective

If the attitude is to wait on someone else to do something, if everyone thought that then nothing would get done...

With comic relief... Half goes to Africa and half stays here... So if you believe charity begins at home... Look up your nearest project that gets a bit of money... And I bet it is a lot closer than you think...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What an interesting discussion! I'm massively in favour of these methods of raising money for charity at home and abroad. And it always makes me proud to be british. Which is not something I usually feel. As someone above said, we've caused so many problems round the world in our time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Africa Africa Africa africa....

Why do people always have to say AFRICA rather than mentioning each country????

I am an africa, and the africa i know have nothing to do with all this nonsense they show on TV

Yes some african countries have their issues due to different reasons. But in those same countries you see people living in mansions driving some ridiculously expensive cars where there is no road.

Someone talked about Kenya, what happened there after 2010 election was pure greed by the politicians to stay in power.

A minister in Kenya got paid more than a minister in France. Is that normal????

Ouganda, Malawi, Sudan, Congo can survive and take care of themselves if they want to

The same images have been shown round and round of sick children to raise money in the name of AFRICA while the real Africa is not like that all.

I see more poverty in people eyes here in Sheffield than i do in BENIN ( that is a country in africa by the way ).

Over there, everybody have the latest gadget, nice houses by the sea with swimming pool, kids go to private school when the parents can afford it. If not the state free school provide a top class education. Nobody die of hanger. But that is still a poor country compared to any european country. All work fine even if there is no oil or natural resources.

You cross the border to Nigeria ( another african country ) , rich, very big, plenty of oil, full of billionaires and corruption...

I can spend 2 hours telling you about how all the money or at least 99% of it end in the wrong hands and pockets.

Charity start at home. You want to help, look at your neighbours.

"

I work in one of those countries you mention and it isn't remotely true that they can survive on their own. The UK froze aid there recently, which was followed by a fuel crisis.

Corruption is a problem - but it is here too!

Comic Relief funding is not for governments.

We're fortunate to be in a situation that we can help others AND ourselves. But for some it's never enough - quite probably why we now have a huge debt.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY


"Africa Africa Africa africa....

Why do people always have to say AFRICA rather than mentioning each country????

I am an africa, and the africa i know have nothing to do with all this nonsense they show on TV

Yes some african countries have their issues due to different reasons. But in those same countries you see people living in mansions driving some ridiculously expensive cars where there is no road.

Someone talked about Kenya, what happened there after 2010 election was pure greed by the politicians to stay in power.

A minister in Kenya got paid more than a minister in France. Is that normal????

Ouganda, Malawi, Sudan, Congo can survive and take care of themselves if they want to

The same images have been shown round and round of sick children to raise money in the name of AFRICA while the real Africa is not like that all.

I see more poverty in people eyes here in Sheffield than i do in BENIN ( that is a country in africa by the way ).

Over there, everybody have the latest gadget, nice houses by the sea with swimming pool, kids go to private school when the parents can afford it. If not the state free school provide a top class education. Nobody die of hanger. But that is still a poor country compared to any european country. All work fine even if there is no oil or natural resources.

You cross the border to Nigeria ( another african country ) , rich, very big, plenty of oil, full of billionaires and corruption...

I can spend 2 hours telling you about how all the money or at least 99% of it end in the wrong hands and pockets.

Charity start at home. You want to help, look at your neighbours.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As hopefully everyone would agree it is a fantastic way to raise money for people less fortunute than ourselves. Lets hope that all the money raised goes to the people who need it , and not syphoned off along the way by governments and bureaucrats.

Don't most of the presenters get paid too?

No they all do it for free..

wogan doesn't do children in need for free

"

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"As hopefully everyone would agree it is a fantastic way to raise money for people less fortunute than ourselves. Lets hope that all the money raised goes to the people who need it , and not syphoned off along the way by governments and bureaucrats.

Don't most of the presenters get paid too?

No they all do it for free..

wogan doesn't do children in need for free

"

You can't compare Children In Need exactly with Comic Relief. Children in Need is the BBC charity and the reason they can claim all donations go to the causes is because the license fee is used to put on the programme and pay for fees, including those of contracted presenters.

Charity costs to run. To put on something of this scale entirely for free would be great but impossible. You still have to pay for heat and light and the machinery and people. I would like it if all celebs did give their time entirely for free but their agents would have to give their time too and so on. Some do and are very generous with their time and their money, e.g. Elton John. Others waive their personal fee and recognise that the publicity helps them. Sometimes the 'fee' is asked to be paid to their own charitable causes. The information is there if you know how to read the accounts, then weigh that against what would have been given without them.

I'm very sad that nowhere near the level of giving would have been achieved without One Direction selling a single or Jessie J shaving off her hair. Ask the many charities that don't have celebrities on their side how hard it is to get donations if you aren't working with children, donkeys or cancer.

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By *axwellTattMan
over a year ago

knutsford


"One of the great things about comic relief is that it helps people all over, both here in the UK and abroad so really everyone on here should be happy.

I know it does sometimes seem that nothing changes but things are improving in many places it is just that the problems are so huge that it does take a ling time.

I heard one fact recently and that was 2 weeks of the money the world spends on weapons and military spending would solve giving clean water to everyone in the world. Often it isn't the money or food the world has but how it is spent and distributed that is the problem."

yes i always give as well to that

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury


"My problem was more with tonight's show tugging at the heart strings every 5 mins at one point before I turned it off I counted 4clips of kids in hospitals dying or close to death in 30 mins I know they want to shock us but it just made the show depressing and so far from funny. I turned it off as it just made the mood too uncomfortable I am not saying we shouldn't support them but charity begins at home we have people living in poverty here and to show one clip in the UK every hour to the 8 in foreign countries seemed excessive.

i have my mum saying i know all these kids are dying but what about their owes governments and then i have to explain that most of the governments in these countries are corrupt and any aid is pocketed by them, then she goes on to well there's kids here that need help but the do give money to here as well, but i know what you mean about tugging the heart strings it is rather upsetting

any way why are you up this late? or is it early?"
it was early im an insomniac and only have 2 hours a night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wogan doesn't do comic relief so that's immaterial. The presenters and all involved work for free. Any office costs etc are paid for by interest earned on the total collected. ALL money collected, every single penny, goes to the charities concerned. The government gets and touches nothing, it doesn't even raise taxes off the interest.

Give money in confidence xxx"

Don't believe this. All this money has to be administrated and approval given for payout etc. there will be a team of people working this who will all be salaried and led by a management team and chief exec on silly money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i had a wank in the beano last night . is that comic relief ????

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By *rishmochaMan
over a year ago

Herts

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By *rishmochaMan
over a year ago

Herts


"Europeans raped and pillaged Africa for years, stripped it of it's wealth and built their own countries up in the process......so now we should let them starve?

The problem doesn't lie with the ordinary people of Africa but with their governments and rulers...alas there is not enough oil in Africa to have us ridding the ordinary Africans of their despot rulers."

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

My daughter and I watched a bit on Friday night. She asked why people allow others to go without food and die. I could not give her the answer, all she said was "well something has to change". All I thought was from little acorns great oak become

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