FabSwingers.com forum: men who want there own pleasure

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs.

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By *a petite madameWoman
over a year ago

London / Essex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

I agree with you on this but I would much rather see a lady well pleasured and having fun before my own pleasure I love to see and hear a lady enjoying her herself as I find it gives me pleasure at the same time, if she then wants to pleasure me all well and good but the ladies needs come before my own I think

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By *az1976Man
over a year ago

Blaenau Ffestiniog

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

Ah well - u should have met ne then !!!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Do you tell them at the time you are unsatisfied

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No problems with my meets glad to say!! I'll never go back lol!

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Time for the OP to give me a try....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes agree you have not been treated well...I love giving oral and feel the woman shudder as she enjoys my tongue in her...I won't ever cum before a woman...it is a case in my book in giving a woman intense pleasure ...sorry your leaving Fab I also am considering it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry to hear about that

There are some Genuine men around who are pretty selfless too xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely it's a two way street??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

Don't give up on fab! maybe you need to be more selective? perhaps you are choosing the wrong guys, there are plenty of guys, me included that get off on seeing a woman pleasured!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cue all the white knights......I'd never do that guys

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Well there you go, a good few decent guys will now declare their selfless pursuit of a woman's pleasure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely it's a two way street??

Hope so, I always make sure the lady I meet is well and truly satisfied, foreplay is the key to amazing sex

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Cue all the white knights......I'd never do that guys

I thought that! These threads are full of guys decrying what their fellow men have done and promising that they don't do the same! "The womans pleasure always comes first" is the usual cry and of course they are not looking just for sex!

I will accept that some on the site may well be like that, but I didn't realise that they were all posters on the forum!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

You'll be telling me next women can orgasm!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't be so foolish, that's just not possible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I myself in the past have verified a man as being fantastic at a meet, to then only have the second meet and it's like meeting a different bloke. Not much effort and over in a flash.

Sometimes wish I could retract my earlier verifications

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."
Not being nasty but if as you say the guys had glowing verifications from others and you claim they were rubbish with you then maybe its you and not them ?

As one or two others have said its a two way street and if they aint doing it for you then you need to tell them and give them a few pointers as to where you think they are going wrong.

But dont really see the need for the post in the first place belitteling the poor guys on the forums if your leaving anyway

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"I myself in the past have verified a man as being fantastic at a meet, to then only have the second meet and it's like meeting a different bloke. Not much effort and over in a flash.

Sometimes wish I could retract my earlier verifications

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Mybe just an off day we all have them dont we ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cue all the white knights......I'd never do that guys

Nice Tar brush!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is rather isn't it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the posts on here from guys are hilarious! All these 'i'm better than him, so pick me' guys should really take a look at themselves.

Pleasure is a two-way street, if the guy isn't doing it for you, then tell him where hes going wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely it's a two way street??

For a woman its a 200 ways a day street so if one pair do not perform then go to the next and the next and the next. There is a massive amount of men on here to chose from; surely someone is going to satisfy you?.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

Don't you talk to them?!!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Cue all the white knights......I'd never do that guys

Beat me to it!

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

Perhaps you should adjust your age ranges. I see that you are 60 and you only want to meet people up to 50. Us oldies love to give lots of foreplay mmmmm

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok I'll do it first. OP don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs.

Perhaps you should adjust your age ranges. I see that you are 60 and you only want to meet people up to 50. Us oldies love to give lots of foreplay mmmmm"

Why should she?!!

I only meet men up to 50, never had a problem...then again my approach is different...they don't get to leave until I'm satisfied!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I only meet men up to 50, never had a problem...then again my approach is different...they don't get to leave until I'm satisfied!

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you go girl. Lock em in till you've had yours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've only had one problem with one meet. He's on here but suffers from not erectile disfunction. Why go meet someone if you know you can't get it up ????

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I've only had one problem with one meet. He's on here but suffers from not erectile disfunction. Why go meet someone if you know you can't get it up ????

I was approached by someone like that only cane to light when I mentioned my Gates of Hell...pretty redundant on a limp cock!

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

"Ok I'll do it first. OP don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

No white knights here, only us Chaotic Neutral Halfling thieves with +20 choppers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have had this myself too...i adore sucking cock and apparently give legendary bj's,but i have met guys who only think of themselves too.i think maybe as i'm not a girlfriend they think they can get away with it.they think they do me a favour by fucking me,or giving me a facial...but cant be bothered trying to make me cum.

I am seething after a meet like this earlier today...gave the guy a bj he said was the best he has ever had...but once he came and i said i would love him to go down on me and return the favour he said..actually i'm not horny anymore now,i better be going!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have had this myself too...i adore sucking cock and apparently give legendary bj's,but i have met guys who only think of themselves too.i think maybe as i'm not a girlfriend they think they can get away with it.they think they do me a favour by fucking me,or giving me a facial...but cant be bothered trying to make me cum.

See, you forgot the first rule! Get yours first before letting the guy cum!

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

No orgasm first, no sucky?

Might work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just curious, if they have been verified with great oral skills why didnt you ask for some treatment? or at the time where you just happy they where there? ready for u?

this reaction of yours has it been a after affect?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No orgasm first, no sucky?

Might work

Lol, it'll give incentive anyway! Can just picture the tongues goin 10 to a dozen! Lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well i think i may have to impose a no orgasm for me,no sucky rule! for sure!!

He actually promised me before he came that he would be able to go again after a few mins and had promised to go down on me..

cant bloody believe it

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

"No orgasm first, no sucky?

Might work

Lol, it'll give incentive anyway! Can just picture the tongues goin 10 to a dozen! Lol."

Suits me, love giving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"well i think i may have to impose a no orgasm for me,no sucky rule! for sure!!

He actually promised me before he came that he would be able to go again after a few mins and had promised to go down on me..

cant bloody believe it"

Aaaah, the old 'i can go again so keep sucking' routine! A classic example of never taking ANYTHING as truth that a guy tells you when you have his cock in your mouth i'm afraid!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only issue about the no orgasm no sucky rule is that i love giving bj's before i cum ,they get me so horny and make it easier for me to cum ,and dont think i would be quite as into it/or good at it once i have cum!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only issue about the no orgasm no sucky rule is that i love giving bj's before i cum ,they get me so horny and make it easier for me to cum ,and dont think i would be quite as into it/or good at it once i have cum!

You could always go for the 69 position!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i wont be believing it after today! no chance! This is the reason though why i rarely meet single guys now one to one.at least at parties if one guy is a selfish prick there are subs on the bench!

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

I don't want to be a Halfling thief anymore, can I be a White Knight after all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could always go for the 69 position! "

LOL.69 is a pet hate of mine,impossible to give the best pleasure or receive the best pleasure = worst of both worlds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" i wont be believing it after today! no chance! This is the reason though why i rarely meet single guys now one to one.at least at parties if one guy is a selfish prick there are subs on the bench!"

Don't you need their doms permission tho?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could always go for the 69 position!

LOL.69 is a pet hate of mine,impossible to give the best pleasure or receive the best pleasure = worst of both worlds"

But you don't need to suck/lick at the same time! Take turns on each other, that way you both get pleasure and its a tease at same time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" i wont be believing it after today! no chance! This is the reason though why i rarely meet single guys now one to one.at least at parties if one guy is a selfish prick there are subs on the bench!

Don't you need their doms permission tho?

Haha,ok ..available replacements...god no not submissive men,not for me at all..even if they do give amazing oral

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could always go for the 69 position!

LOL.69 is a pet hate of mine,impossible to give the best pleasure or receive the best pleasure = worst of both worlds

But you don't need to suck/lick at the same time! Take turns on each other, that way you both get pleasure and its a tease at same time."

Its not comfortable either!! Trust me i've tried 69's and know they arent my thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" i wont be believing it after today! no chance! This is the reason though why i rarely meet single guys now one to one.at least at parties if one guy is a selfish prick there are subs on the bench!

Don't you need their doms permission tho?

Haha,ok ..available replacements...god no not submissive men,not for me at all..even if they do give amazing oral"

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

Now I've finally cleared my backlog of "Valentines Experience" ladies I can feel an "Invictus Perfect Meet Experience" thread forming in my mind here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are most welcome to restore my faith _nvictus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Womens needs should come first,i dont like coming until i make the female come at least a couple of times and when the pussy is raw and cant take no more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hi OP sorry to be blunt but please quit ya moaning as its horse poop you have had quite a few verifacations!!!!! so not all bad hay???

enjoy tis life rough with smooth and put down to ' it was what it was' and move on surley !!! any how please don't see as apersonal attack!! just bit perplexed i know its cleshay but try being a single guy on here ! .... ( no im not bitching just a fact but im good with it i don't do to bad

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some times you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you

chin up and move on and under

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

"OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs.

I'm with you on this. I am quite happy go play with a lady and to satisfy her before I consider pleasuring myself. I was once referred to as a woman pleaser, which is something I aim to do on my meets. Respect plays a big part, as no lady is a piece of meat, but a lady with feelings and emotion.

It is your choice to leave, but it would be sad if you did. Be selective or take control. Xxx

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

You can be assured that not all men are takers. I get off by seeing a woman enjoying herself. Don't leave them a veri and don't meet them again. Just means they are crap at sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I normally tell someone before the meet that i like lots of foreplay and the build up to sex...I wouldn't like it if i had been treated like that.

Don't come off because you have had a few bad experiences but make sure you state exactly what you want from them before hand x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can be assured that not all men are takers. I get off by seeing a woman enjoying herself. Don't leave them a veri and don't meet them again. Just means they are crap at sex."

If you don't leave them a veri no one will know. Just leave an honest one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You'll be telling me next women can orgasm!!

I dont think I have ever orgasmed. Squirt and gush so I have been told by a couple of guys. Not their fault I dont.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you said the bloke wasn't into it once he'd cum.... Same thing then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

Shame you are leaving. Dont give up, like others have said you maybe are picking the wrong guys. The few I have met and feel free to check out my veris, are what they say they are. Obviously, they want sex, we all do, but they have given me lots of foreplay, oral for a long time before actually having sex. And inbetween they will give more oral. Have never demanded I give lots of oral, I do return the favour. Also, cuddles inbetween because they know I like it. So from someone who classes herself still inexperienced, be a little choosy and Im not saying you are not, but that way you will find yourself a nice guy who still wants some naughty fun.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"You can be assured that not all men are takers. I get off by seeing a woman enjoying herself. Don't leave them a veri and don't meet them again. Just means they are crap at sex.

If you don't leave them a veri no one will know. Just leave an honest one.

They won't show an honest one!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"No orgasm first, no sucky?

Might work

We shouldn't have to do this!

There are a lot of men on here who have 'excellent oral', 'love giving oral', 'eating pussy is my favourite' on their profiles, yet when you suggest they might give out some of that expertise on a meet, thats when you find out they actually don't like it. Whats the alternative? Not sucking and going home horny, or sucking and at least getting a shag?

I would love to be like all the strong women who can ask men to leave if they don't do what we want, but unfortunately I am as ruled by my pussy as some guys are by their cock. A shag won't make up for no oral, but its better than nothing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

Ver well put

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By *uschmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

I met a woman recently who when I asked if I could disappear down below and lick her pussy, told me that she didn't like it under any circumstances.

I was completely gobsmacked. It put me right off my stroke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you said the bloke wasn't into it once he'd cum.... Same thing then?"

My comment sounded bitchy, sorry I didn't mean it that way. I meant that I suppose they are the same as in once the horn has gone it's gone.

But still....!! We carry on, so should they!

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over a year ago

Dear OP sorry you have met some selfish ppl. After years on here as a couple our shared advice is no matter whose profile always read with a large pinch of salt. They are trying to sell themselves and will often big up to get your attention. Perhaps club meets will allow you to see them in action with others and pick the best er um performers. Lol

All the best in your future play dates.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

It's not just a bloke issue either to be fair, women and couples are just as capable of selfish behaviour too - and the OP's flounce won't win a lot of sympathy from some of us either.

You've got your couples after 'stunt cocks' who just want a man to turn up, perform as they want and then leave.

You've got women who just want a wham bam meet and don't give oral, don't kiss or anything.

Add gangbangs, masters & mistresses, cucks and all the other kinks, bends and connectors in the swinging scene and it gets even more varied.

...and that's fine, if that's what they want then it's their right.

The only thing anyone can do is try and comminicate with your meet before hand and set out what you hope to get from it (although a big list of terms & conditions will put people off too). Chat to them and get more of a feel for what they are like - a guy who isn't afraid to wait and who uses tastefully erotic language is more likely to be a lover rather than a selfish shagger. Guys who have regular meets with a few ladies are also likely to be far more promising.

No doubt you will still get unsatisfying meets, regardless of anything you do, as others have testified - but that's just life, if you can't hack it OP then take a break or leave.

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

"OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy."

Amen to this post!

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over a year ago

"No orgasm first, no sucky?

Might work

We shouldn't have to do this!

Agree here i would have been more content with a shag but as he came during the bj I got absolutely nothing!!

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By *oulou45Woman
over a year ago

Bucks

"OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy."

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over a year ago

"OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that just sucks. I personally get off on getting a woman off, I love the feeling I get when I have her wriggling and moaning as I use my tongue on her.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

Another thing here I will chip in. Not all the men saying they aren't selfish lovers on here are not necessarily white knights who are offering their fawning services to any passing princess in distress....

...a few are just simply stating how they see a play session.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly. You get a woman going, she's going to be more into it and get you going, which then makes you wanna get her going... So she can get you going. Follow? 69 FTW.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can be assured that not all men are takers. I get off by seeing a woman enjoying herself. Don't leave them a veri and don't meet them again. Just means they are crap at sex.

If you don't leave them a veri no one will know. Just leave an honest one.

i might leave them a nice veri though even if the sex wasnt that good

maybe i liked the way they kissed and cuddled me or i thought they were nice people.

one man i met recently was only 30 but he was good at foreplay so its not just older men who are better.

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over a year ago

Communication is the key for me. Not everyone likes lots of messages, or talking pre meet, so how do you find out what each other wants or needs from the meet?

The last person I met said..

I knew you before met you

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

How about this then ladies?

Ask him to text or message you a little story describing how you would make love togethet .... if he gives his own BJ six pages of grafic detail and barely mentions slipping your knickers off it might just be a clue

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By *adu12Woman
over a year ago

Newton Abbot

I'm bemused too..

Surely you're responsible for your own enjoyment and if it's only a quick fumble then a fuck, well..how come you let him inside you in the first place?

If you're not enjoying it then it doesn't go any further??

Maybe I'm missing something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I assumed most guys love oral because I love giving oral to both men and women very much and get really turned on pleasing and most of the guys I've met have loved giving. However last year I met a couple of guys that really didn't. I've always gone straight for the cock but put off a little now after giving a couple of guys very long oral sess for them to fumble about a little with their fingers hurt me a bit and then fuck my dry pussy. In all the years it goes in waves, sometimes it feels that a few guys have been a bit selfish and only in it for their fun and then you meet the most awesome guys and it reminds you how amazing Fabs can be. There are still amazing times to be had

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over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs.

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By *ssexguy69Man
over a year ago

thurrock Essex

its got to a two way for me , love to pleasure the woman just as much or more than she does me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most guys will tell you that they get pleasure from the womans pleasure.

Most guys will tell a woman she gives the best bj's ever. Only an incredibly stupid man would say 'oh you arent as good as the woman I met last week' whilst shes sucking him.

Dont be too fooled by mens flattery. No man will only be bothered about a womans pleasure, they are meeting for their own. Of course this is perfectly acceptable as it is a two way thing, or three way in our case.

Usually a discussion takes place about what the expectations are. It doesnt have to be a clinical discussion, a jokey repetoire of what you like/dislike is usually stated in messages, and when you actually do meet, you often do talk about swinging and sex talk is discussed, which is a way of reiterating what you all expect.

I do think though that couples are treated differently. I have listened over the years on here about messages single ladies yet, the treatment they receive sometimes and I dont really have experience of that. I do think that another mans presence will stop any bad behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess she could have always took it out her mouth before he came and been like, your turn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer to please than be pleased x

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over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

ive met a few guys like this in my time. just want a blow job and a shag, used to come away feeling like a free escort

Now days i'm more upfront about what I want and I do not allow this to happen anymore, I know I cant force guys to give me oral but what I can and have don't a few times is leave a meet if I feel its only going one way, I have on a few occasion told guys I wasn't getting anything out of it and got dressed and left

Have to be honest its a lot easier to do this in club than on private meets but I just refuse to be used just for other peoples gratification anymore

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Most guys will tell you that they get pleasure from the womans pleasure.

Most guys will tell a woman she gives the best bj's ever. Only an incredibly stupid man would say 'oh you arent as good as the woman I met last week' whilst shes sucking him.

Another iconic "Iconic" post! Everyone is in this for what they can get and I will never believe that anyone is on here just to please others! (Except me of course!

) All men are "Stunt Cocks" to some degree. Yes other parts get used, but it is for the pleasure of the woman/couple that they are invited, not care in the community.

Men want sex and will really want to get their rocks off asap, but most will realise that doing that will result in no return matches. The good ones will make an effort, because they know that doing so will often result in even more sex!

No offence to anyone here and I include us in this as well.... Single men are dildos with a pulse, single women are Fleshlights with a pulse and couples are one of each in a buy one get one free deal! I accept that and so should everyone else, that way we all have pretty low expectations and will normally be pleasantly surprised!

I will grant that Fleshlights and Dildos cannot hug, kiss and the like and that is where real people score extra points. If that wasn't the case and we could get everything from a toy, we wouldn't be here!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes I am very tempted to carry out an experiment.

For all the guys who message me stating that they are only here for my pleasure and, as know I enjoy oral, will be happy just to lick me for hours with no other expectations, then im tempted to meet and keep them exactly to their word.

Even if I have to take my Kindle along with me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always chat about what I like before I meet a guy, and discuss his likes and dislikes too, and I am vocal on meets if he is not given anything back, been quite lucky on that score but have had 2 guys tell me they could repeat, then fail to do so and then try to tell me they had to leave, but I made them get me off with tongue or fingers before they did, and then I chose not to see them again, most guys love to give oral and most want to do that before I do anything back, look at my veri's every guy on there was an amazing fuck as I don't lie on them choose any one of them and you would be on to a winner, you ever thought it could just be that the connection was not there for them and they just wanted to fuck and run, my bf had a meet once, he loves rimming and had chatted to a woman who was into that, so arranged a meet, they met at her place and she took him upstairs stripped of and got on the bed arse in air, not even a kiss first lol my bf said he felt like a piece of meat and had to leave as after that he didn't feel right xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is amazing that the OP hasn't been on since posting this, lit the touch paper and ran

Just looking at her verifications the last 5 guys she's met two have been given a veri the others not or not showing them, so draw your own conclusions, she may have met the wrong guys for her, no point attacking her for this, yes could be her own fault but also some idiots out there as we all know!!

To the OP its the same for us guys some women don't give good BJ's or don't want you to go down etc or want roses and a date just a quick cum and go. And finding the good ones that are what they say they are, and actually look like their photos is difficult for us guys as it is for couples, women, TV's etc.

If your not happy meet for a drink talk things through on the phone etc, can always leave it at that stage (i have on quite a few occasions) ask them can they repeat, do they want to meet again if it goes well, whatever you need to find the ones for you? you've had over 14 meets in 11 months not bad going and I'm sure some have been good, some indifferent. If you want to leave just go no ones stopping you, or go use another site. Good luck and im sure the door wont hurt to much as it hits you or are you into that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

brilliant idea! maybe i should find guys who are happy to do this,and once satisfied give them a nice bj surprise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sometimes I am very tempted to carry out an experiment.

Even if I have to take my Kindle along with me

Sorry,my above post was in reply to this one!

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

"Sometimes I am very tempted to carry out an experiment.

Even if I have to take my Kindle along with me

I've met just to give oral before, sometimes, the mood takes me as such. Its not all that uncommon actually

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

" A shag won't make up for no oral, but its better than nothing!"

What a sad statement.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"No doubt you will still get unsatisfying meets, regardless of anything you do, as others have testified - but that's just life, if you can't hack it OP then take a break or leave. "

Indeed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe those guys last meets brought something to the table with them, rather than just assume that they would get pleasured?

Every single guy on here is different in the way they approach sex! Some will take their pleasure as they get it, some will work at giving pleasure, but i hope most, (like myself), will just enjoy the meet and do what your there to do, HAVE FUN!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely it's a two way street??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe not every man love giving oral to a woman .. But love to take it ... Maybe ask before a meet how thay like to play ? Before i date i always have a feel down there see how i taste. lol

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

oral on a woman.... the most lovely intimate activity on the sex spectrum mmm and the taste mmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ill be your bob

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love foreplay can't get enough love going down on a woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All the guys on here are full of it! Blah blah blah!

The good guys are fairly easy to spot. However, that is the result of experience and a positive vetting process!

The guys who expect to meet at the drop of a hat and can only meet at certain times or are 'in your area' are the ones to avoid..

Rant Over!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!"

Oh go on then

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over a year ago

"I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!"

Lol don't get it twisted. I don't think any of us are saying we don't want anything in return, just that you reap what you sow, and were not afraid to plant our seeds.

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over a year ago

"I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!

Oh go on then

Just suck my cock to get me hard luv.

Ooh ooh ahhhh

Sorry that was so quick luv. Thanks. See ya!

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over a year ago

"I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!

Lol don't get it twisted. I don't think any of us are saying we don't want anything in return, just that you reap what you sow, and were not afraid to plant our seeds."

I see what you did there. Seeds. Eh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer to please the lady rather than get pleased may be you just met the wrong men, keep it up and I wish you luck!

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By *ofakindCouple
over a year ago

Running with Monkeys

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see what you did there. Seeds. Eh.

Clever hey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And truth be told I know once I've come I'm done, so no point rushing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And truth be told I know once I've come I'm done, so no point rushing it."

Nowt wrong with that. Best to know up front that there's not going to be a 'round 2'.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!

Oh go on then

Just suck my cock to get me hard luv.

Ooh ooh ahhhh

Sorry that was so quick luv. Thanks. See ya!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't that just what happened to him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Im sure that the last few guys that you have met from here really appreciate your ringing endorsement...

And strange that there arent too many of the usual 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out' comments that Im sure we would have seen if this had been posted by a single guy."

Just what I was thinking! Men usually get slated on here when they post a leaving thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nowt wrong with that. Best to know up front that there's not going to be a 'round 2'.

So May as well make it a first round KO and hope they come back for a rematch.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

"I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!"

You have a cock?!?

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over a year ago

"I have a 12" tongue

I breathe through my ears

I love to make women cum and cum and cum

Always their pleasure before mine

Don't even need my cock sucked as long as the woman is happy

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!!

You have a cock?!?

Oops... My secret's out. I don't think anyone noticed.

I'm a girl.... Honest..... *cough*

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By *moocherforuMan
over a year ago

30 Minutes from Cavan...

I'm only a newbie of three weeks but I have been with 2 single ladies and 2 couples and I agree 100% Hun. Totally selfish of those men.. But pleas don't paint us all with the same brush just because of some self centred individuals who only think of their own needs.. Why didn't you pick me Hun .. I always look after my ladies first..

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By *moocherforuMan
over a year ago

30 Minutes from Cavan...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like i say...the good guys CUM last.

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By *tressfreeMan
over a year ago

Northampton

Lots of good guys on here. And yes, older men are more considerate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe thay don't like how that taste at times ... as some ladies taste stronger then others and it put them off maybe not sure .... I think woman should know how thay taste down there ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this has happened to most of us at some point, I am a pleaser and like to make sure the guy I'm with has enjoyed me, I love giving oral and pleasuring him, however this sometimes leaves me feeling unfulfilled, because more often than not, once he's cum, he just isn't interested any more, recently tho I have made a concious decision that I need to be pleasured first, then he can just lay back and enjoy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My last few meets,And verified great at oral etc.Meet me it all changes.

These guys carnt wait to get there end away.

Im given no foreplay,Which every woman loves.

Maybe a fumble,Then guys own pleasure.

Why i dont know,But this wk ive decided to come off fab.

As i believe im worth more than the men .

who want to satisfy there own needs.

The last few men i notice only meet couples.

Im single so do believe they take advantage of that.

What partner would let a guy treat his woman like they treat me.

I need respect like any other lady on here.

And pleasure.Guys dont be so selfish in your own needs."

I'm sorry OP, but I think you've been making wrong and bad choices with regard to who you've been meeting.

Personally, in my book the lady always comes first, pun intended. And I would be surprised if I was the only guy with this attitude!

Don't give up, just change your selection process.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe you have encountered guys that are inexperienced?

I make it my duty to make sure the women gets her pleasure first and that involves loads of foreplay before getting my own pleasure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hello and I agree. It's hard enough to find a real gentleman, but some how it's the men who pretend to be experienced who just need to get their cocks off, who are worse than a man who never meets at all! and these men then are the ones who are then finished and asleep!

nine times out of ten these same men are over weight, un fit, expect you to turn up in the middle of the day, at their house and, for your pleasure, wearing a pair of dirty jeans that do not fit his arse!Q!!

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And heres me thinking that we're all on here for our own pleasure! Silly me, not once have i mailed a lass when i myself am not horny, asking if she needs pleasured.

Saying that though, when i DO meet, its up to BOTH of us to make sure we BOTH have fun and walk away satisfied!

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

"hello and I agree. It's hard enough to find a real gentleman, but some how it's the men who pretend to be experienced who just need to get their cocks off, who are worse than a man who never meets at all! and these men then are the ones who are then finished and asleep!

Mmmm your needing to cum to ours lol , kettles on xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

last few meets OP said.... last one she met was 2nd march.... is now 13th... how many between that have been selfish in their own pleasure. bolloxs... shes got enough veris on her list to say how lovely she is.... warrants a thought of ... wtf ! just move on ...

rant over sorry

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"And truth be told I know once I've come I'm done, so no point rushing it."

Does your tongue stop working then?

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By *axwellTattMan
over a year ago

knutsford

Coughs ~ Clears throat ah, I thought it starts with the meet first that’s the start of the foreplay call me old fashioned, I guess its about body langue that’s the start long before you ever get to play I have always thought that you get to know the person first then at least you know whom your getting. I don’t know maybe because my backgrounds a little different. I think I will just watch the comments and maybe make another one later on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know what u mean OP.

You speak to someone, get to know them. They say some great things about what they like etc..

They come round and u can tell sex is more a fantasy for them as in reality its wam bam thank you mam haha

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Think the OP has a very valid point myself.

I have been at some gang bangs and the verifications the women have given them make them sound like gods gift to women, when in fact they put in no effort at all, came very quickly and didnt even bother scubbing up.

Sme with some of the meets I've had, both women and couples will say I am one of the best they have met compared to previous - yet looking at the verifications they left them, again they sound very relaible and good shags.

I cant believe people are taking the axe out at the OP for making what is a valid statement. She has met people based on their veris and they have simply not been up to the job.

I take it everyone above (sorry I havent read all the posts) have never had a naff meet having gone off someones veris?

I know I have.... some guys totally overdo a womans/couples profile sometimes, probably in the hope they will meet them again. They make them out to be the fuck of the century and when you turn up, they are 1/ shocked that you have, 2/ suprised you have brought condoms 3/ nervous 4/ dont know what to actually do 5/ nothing like the veri portrays.

How come everyone is on her back about it?

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over a year ago

"Think the OP has a very valid point myself.

I cant believe people are taking the axe out at the OP for making what is a valid statement. She has met people based on their veris and they have simply not been up to the job.

I take it everyone above (sorry I havent read all the posts) have never had a naff meet having gone off someones veris?

How come everyone is on her back about it?

Yh I think its the way of the british$.. Be polite and don't offend

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

How come everyone is on her back about it?

I asked her if she mentioned to the guys at the time that she was not satisfied...

a valid question but she hasn't been logged on since, I await with interest her answer.

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By *eet_the_spartanMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I'm sure a lot of guys on here are great. Maybe you've been unlucky. Maybe it's down to communication at the time. Unless you tell them what you enjoy, they pretty much have to guess after all. Better luck next time but there's no need to name and shame people who most likely think they've given you a great time until now

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Think the OP has a very valid point myself.

I cant believe people are taking the axe out at the OP for making what is a valid statement. She has met people based on their veris and they have simply not been up to the job.

I take it everyone above (sorry I havent read all the posts) have never had a naff meet having gone off someones veris?

How come everyone is on her back about it?

I have said on numerous occasions, I've NEVER used verifications in deciding who to meet. The idea of relying on total strangers to influence my decision to allow another total stranger into my bed is totally ludicrous to me.

My meets are all about me yet I still take time talking, meeting socially, discussing what WE expect from the meet.

There have been times when I've not been satisfied but it's not been for lack of trying on my playmates part. For example one man really liked the hold ups I dressed him in and that put me off my stride as I like it when they DON'T like it. Another had a hairy back that put me off...not his fault I concentrated on that instead of what he was doing.

Very different to allowing yourself to be used and getting nothing from it but bemoaning the fact afterwards.

I will add that whilst the verification system means nothing to me I recognise it's an aide memoir for some. Therefore isn't it down to those leaving verifications to be less flowery with their praise?

Then again, even with the same person meets can range from mind blowing to mediocre so who knows!

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over a year ago

Like most people, I read verifications but they do have to be treated with caution.

I've known a couple of women who have given a guy a decent veri, even although they admitted that the meet was nothing special and they wouldn't meet again.

When queried, they said, "I didn't want to offend him"!! Female logic strikes again!

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over a year ago

London

"Like most people, I read verifications but they do have to be treated with caution.

I've known a couple of women who have given a guy a decent veri, even although they admitted that the meet was nothing special and they wouldn't meet again.

When queried, they said, "I didn't want to offend him"!! Female logic strikes again!

That's my point! Using the lie from a stranger to decide letting another stranger into your pants is ludicrous!

Some women put more thought and time into buying a pair of knickers than they do into the men they'll be taking them off for!

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over a year ago

That's my point! Using the lie from a stranger to decide letting another stranger into your pants is ludicrous!

Some women put more thought and time into buying a pair of knickers than they do into the men they'll be taking them off for!

Why waste time, don't wear any.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

All the selfish men should have their nuts roasted with my Acme 42-Watt Timewaster Annihilator Laser Mk. III

That will teach 'em!

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"Like most people, I read verifications but they do have to be treated with caution.

I've known a couple of women who have given a guy a decent veri, even although they admitted that the meet was nothing special and they wouldn't meet again.

When queried, they said, "I didn't want to offend him"!! Female logic strikes again!

That's my point! Using the lie from a stranger to decide letting another stranger into your pants is ludicrous!

Some women put more thought and time into buying a pair of knickers than they do into the men they'll be taking them off for!

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