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"Whoever would request it before meeting. We were thinking for the socials we are organising. " How many women prison's do you think are built not every guy is a psycho and a driving licence is going to prove they aren't | |||
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"I've not heard of a female killer on any dating apps etc" I see. I would make several points. I'm not sure this is what the gov.uk service is intended for. A murderer would use someone else's driving licence. Women can be killers. Men in couples can also be killers. | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " Would have to understand where it would go but first impression is No Fucking Way! Been to many socials and organised some and also private parties and never ever heard of anyone doing this. Don't even need to hand over ID for all clubs. Also not sure in what way it would make it safe? And of course couples and ladies post risks as well. Having had a lady threaten me will all sorts if I didn't give her money my personal details not being given out very easily. | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " How does seeing every single guys driving license make the event safe? As you said that there has never been a female killer off a dating app I assume you mean that it will stop any single male killers attending….so if a killer does attend and kills everyone at the event what benefit is it if everyone had seen his driving license? As we’re not in America it’s highly unlikely that someone is going to go somewhere that they know there will be a group of people with the intention of killing everyone or someone there, they’d arrange a one on one meet to do it. If someone is psychotic enough to want to attend a group event and start killing people do you think that being asked to show his driving license will put an end to his plan or do you think he’d probably just get a fake driving license? Mass murderers don’t tend to be the sort of people who follow the rules or who allow minor inconveniences get in their way. | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " If you’re planning to host a social event then you’re responsible for the safety of everyone attending that event, if you think that asking every single male attending the event to show everyone else their driving license will keep the event safe then I don’t think you’ve planned it very well, and if you’re using verifications from this site as a sign that someone is completely genuine and safe then you definitely haven’t planned it very well. | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " No. What benefit would that bring anyone in a social environment? | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence If you’re planning to host a social event then you’re responsible for the safety of everyone attending that event, if you think that asking every single male attending the event to show everyone else their driving license will keep the event safe then I don’t think you’ve planned it very well, and if you’re using verifications from this site as a sign that someone is completely genuine and safe then you definitely haven’t planned it very well. " Exactly this. May also want to consider first aid cover | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " GDPR GDPR GDPR and in case you missed it GDPR!!!! | |||
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"Taken from safety section on FAB which we're guessing not everyone's read lol If in any doubt, ask to see proof of age and ID. So you're perfectly correct asking for some kind of ID if unsure on someone. But that would be just for you to see, not the whole social/event. " I think the phrase 'if in any doubt' is the most relevant there. In that case just asking people to bring their driving licence with them would do the trick. That would reassure everyone that their details weren't being recorded for future use elsewhere and allow the organisers to verify that the person was who they say they are. | |||
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"Taken from safety section on FAB which we're guessing not everyone's read lol If in any doubt, ask to see proof of age and ID. So you're perfectly correct asking for some kind of ID if unsure on someone. But that would be just for you to see, not the whole social/event. I think the phrase 'if in any doubt' is the most relevant there. In that case just asking people to bring their driving licence with them would do the trick. That would reassure everyone that their details weren't being recorded for future use elsewhere and allow the organisers to verify that the person was who they say they are. " That section on safety also says Don't give strangers too much personal details (e.g. address, place of work, phone number.) | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? [b]This would be for guys with no verifications.[/b] https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " Love when reactions about serial killers etc take over. As pointed out by a moderator (thank you) if you read the original post it's a way of asking for and providing ID for unverified single men, or as you've pointed out for anyone. We are looking at starting a club and will require ID. We have used out passport and driver licence in the past. This would save you carrying them with you and possibly loosing them. | |||
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"No chance in hell " I second the statement too esay for your licence to be used for dishonest activity. | |||
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"No chance in hell I second the statement too easy for your licence to be used for dishonest activity. " Very true, I hope the clubs that photocopy ID don't take out a mortgage in my name. They have all my info and if you want to go you have to accept it. Rather than carrying actual ID this could be an option. If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied. | |||
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"No chance in hell I second the statement too easy for your licence to be used for dishonest activity. Very true, I hope the clubs that photocopy ID don't take out a mortgage in my name. They have all my info and if you want to go you have to accept it. Rather than carrying actual ID this could be an option. If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied. " Is this a social event or a club visit or social at a club? A club is slightly different as some checks in place and it would not be in their interest to misbehave. I read your post as referring to a typical group socials not at a club and ID details going to you or other non-club organisers. Still I would take original to club. | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence GDPR GDPR GDPR and in case you missed it GDPR!!!!" Exactly my thought | |||
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"No chance in hell I second the statement too easy for your licence to be used for dishonest activity. Very true, I hope the clubs that photocopy ID don't take out a mortgage in my name. They have all my info and if you want to go you have to accept it. Rather than carrying actual ID this could be an option. If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied. " How would you store these photocopies? | |||
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"No chance in hell I second the statement too easy for your licence to be used for dishonest activity. Very true, I hope the clubs that photocopy ID don't take out a mortgage in my name. They have all my info and if you want to go you have to accept it. Rather than carrying actual ID this could be an option. If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied. " I’m not sure how sharing the code via the site would help with this. It doesn’t share the photo or all the personal details on the licence, it only shares the driving record - ie what type of vehicle you can drive and any penalty points or disqualifications. | |||
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"I've not heard of a female killer on any dating apps etc" That's because they're better at hiding their murder sprees than us blokes. | |||
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"No chance in hell I second the statement too easy for your licence to be used for dishonest activity. Very true, I hope the clubs that photocopy ID don't take out a mortgage in my name. They have all my info and if you want to go you have to accept it. Rather than carrying actual ID this could be an option. If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied. " Why should anyone trust you to keep their information safe. It's a social nothing more you're not a club who have to abide by laws. You should too but why should anyone trust you to. Would you be showing your ID to these men and allowing them to keep a photocopy of it ? If not why not ? It seems very strange to me that anyone holding socials would want to keep photo copies of anyone's ID. Most will meet someone unveried before a social to see if they want them at their event. I wouldn't want to go to any social where anyone has to do that and knowing how quickly people share info on here it's a massive red flag anyone asking for it also. If you are that nervous of having people with no veris at your social don't allow them to attend. Plus way too much faith is put on veris and thinking that makes someone safe. I was hassled at a mng for most of a night by a man in a couple who didn't take no for an answer and their veris said he was lovely. I had to leave in the end because of him. | |||
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"I've not heard of a female killer on any dating apps etc" Omg what a ridiculous comment, you do know there are plenty psycho women! | |||
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"No chance in hell How would you store these photocopies?" We said clubs keep photocopies, not us. This has got out of hand for a simple question. Everyone is welcome to have an opinion. But what we have said is taken way out of context. Love it | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " Is that the site that requests driving licence number, post code and NI number? | |||
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"No chance in hell How would you store these photocopies? We said clubs keep photocopies, not us. This has got out of hand for a simple question. Everyone is welcome to have an opinion. But what we have said is taken way out of context. Love it " "If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied." You did say bring id to be photocopied | |||
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"No chance in hell How would you store these photocopies? We said clubs keep photocopies, not us. This has got out of hand for a simple question. Everyone is welcome to have an opinion. But what we have said is taken way out of context. Love it "If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied." You did say bring id to be photocopied " Correct, but in context we said to a club that does this. We have had our ID photocopied. We are not a club. And have never asked for ID as we didn't like this. We are a social group that accepts verified members and people they verify to us. | |||
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"No chance in hell How would you store these photocopies? We said clubs keep photocopies, not us. This has got out of hand for a simple question. Everyone is welcome to have an opinion. But what we have said is taken way out of context. Love it "If you don't like the website share just bring the ID to be photocopied." You did say bring id to be photocopied Correct, but in context we said to a club that does this. We have had our ID photocopied. We are not a club. And have never asked for ID as we didn't like this. We are a social group that accepts verified members and people they verify to us. " So if everyones verified why do you need id? | |||
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"Ask the club's that ask for ID... We don't " Like you said they though they are a club with various people there that noone knows you are a social group who only meet with verified others so whats the need for id? | |||
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"I would immediately suspect of being scammed in someway. Sorry, but that would be my honest gut reaction." Me too | |||
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" This has got out of hand for a simple question. Everyone is welcome to have an opinion. But what we have said is taken way out of context. Love it " With respect it hasn't. You asked would people be willing to share information about their driving history to keep your social safe. The context is in your OP, people have answered this. | |||
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"I've not heard of a female killer on any dating apps etc" As someone who has a lady friend who was imprisoned (for self defence as a d*unk woman attacked her out of the blue), she tells me about her fellow inmates in the prison, and there were a few of them who committed seriously fucked up things after meeting people on dating sites. In her words, women can be just as, if not more psychopathic than men. It's just not as reported on as much in the media. | |||
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"As someone who has a lady friend who was imprisoned (for self defence as a d*unk woman attacked her out of the blue)." In fairness, she wasn't actually imprisoned for self defence was she? Self defence isn't illegal. She was imprisoned for assault (it must have been a serious one for prison!) as her alleged defence of self defence had failed. Gbat | |||
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"As someone who has a lady friend who was imprisoned (for self defence as a d*unk woman attacked her out of the blue). In fairness, she wasn't actually imprisoned for self defence was she? Self defence isn't illegal. She was imprisoned for assault (it must have been a serious one for prison!) as her alleged defence of self defence had failed. Gbat " Self defence is illegal if you do more visible damage to your attacker and is classed as gbh. It's a fucked up system, my friend had bruise marks on her face and a fat black eye, the other girl had a bit of blood on her eyebrow. My friend got charged with gbh for that | |||
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"Seems like just another way to discriminate against single guys. Why not just tie them up and beat them when they arrive till they admit to being a psychopath or whatever. " Beat me with a rubber hose……..please | |||
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"Whoever would request it before meeting. We were thinking for the socials we are organising. " I'm confused. You say you want it for the socials you are organising. Then further down say you don't want it. It's the clubs that want it. Are your socials in pubs. Or in a swingers club? Are your socials actually socials or are they club events? | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " Why only for single blokes with no verifications? | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? [b]This would be for guys with no verifications.[/b] https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence Love when reactions about serial killers etc take over. As pointed out by a moderator (thank you) if you read the original post it's a way of asking for and providing ID for unverified single men, or as you've pointed out for anyone. We are looking at starting a club and will require ID. We have used out passport and driver licence in the past. This would save you carrying them with you and possibly loosing them. " You seem to be singling out blokes who havnt been lucky enough to have had a meet . Remember, you were unverified once upon a time until someone took a chance on you and met you | |||
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"No chance in hell I second the statement too easy for your licence to be used for dishonest activity. Very true, I hope the clubs that photocopy ID don't take out a mortgage in my name. They have all my info and if you want to go you have to accept it. " I used to worry about this too back in my swinging club days in London. You never really knew who were the owners of the clubs actually were and what other business ventures they were involved in. Is this still a thing that happens? That nerve-wracking 5 mins when you hand over a passport or driving licence to a complete stranger and they disappear to photocopy it. | |||
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"No chance in hell " Haha must be mental to be along with that !! Probably will be some daft little lads that will | |||
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"I cannot believe the amount of discrimination against non verified single blokes in this thread . I just wish to point out that EVERYONE ,singles AND couples were unverified when they joined Fab ,until someone took a chance on them. To single out us that havnt been fortunate enough to have had a meet as "A potential danger " is ,quite frankly outrageous. " | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " Not a snowballs chance in Hell. My driving licence that shows my face, date of birth and full home address to total strangers? What abut MY safety? I'd nope out of that quicksmart. | |||
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"Data protection would be broken. But if a couple is 'safe' put Fred & Rose on your block list " Did Fred have a driving license.? Wayne couzens? I think it's great to organise socials which are also a great way for the unsafe unverified to become verified and notionally safer, because some strangers have met for 5 minutes and performed a vetting for others. People seem to be questioning the illusion of safety provided by a fab veri or capturing only single mens ID details. Best of luck with your venture though. | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " If I may ,a couple of questions for you . Why do you assume all "unverified "single blokes pose a threat to women . ? When you first joined Fab ,(whem YOU had no verifications),did the people/person you had your first meet with demand a copy of your driving licence before the meet .? | |||
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"Whoever would request it before meeting. We were thinking for the socials we are organising. " How would you know it was theirs? | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? This would be for guys with no verifications. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence " ???? they would be mad to do that | |||
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"Are the women and couples also supplying their information? If not, it’s sexual discrimination and an illegal request. Just saying. " | |||
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"We are looking at how to keep a social event safe. If your a single guy would you be willing to use the website below and give the share code for your driving licence? [b]This would be for guys with no verifications.[/b] https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence Love when reactions about serial killers etc take over. As pointed out by a moderator (thank you) if you read the original post it's a way of asking for and providing ID for unverified single men, or as you've pointed out for anyone. We are looking at starting a club and will require ID. We have used out passport and driver licence in the past. This would save you carrying them with you and possibly loosing them. " You really do seem to have an issue with unverified single blokes on here .Remember, you were unverified when you joined. Did you supply your driving licence at your first social meet ? | |||
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