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By *omsubdevon OP   Couple
over a year ago

Newton Abbot

We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx"

I am looking for a couple to play with but it seems like it’s difficult to find couples into this!

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By *aige_TurningTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds


"We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx

I am looking for a couple to play with but it seems like it’s difficult to find couples into this!"

Am in the same dilemma, so few couple willing to engage with us special girls.

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By *ilthy couple 111Couple
over a year ago

boston

we would love to play with a trans , top of our bucket list. also will meet convincing tvs

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman. "

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

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By *ilk and all things niceTV/TS
over a year ago

secret bunker

I’m very curious about mature couples but not if the man is bottom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank"

A man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So a woman. "

Obviously not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank"

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx"

Treat them as someone very special, someone that you are privileged to meet, someone who's pleasure and fulfilment you will put first. All too often we are treated as being a sex toy for the man to shag up the arse, and ignored as soon as he has cum. We are not the warm up before the main course where the couple get it on.

Some of us like sex with men, some of us like sex with women, some of us like both either singly or together. All of us like being a full partner in the action, rather than being an object who is supposed to be grateful for getting any attention at all.

We are all different, we are all special. Some of us are only recently starting out on a voyage of discovery about our gender. Some of us have had many years investigating who we are. Some of us came to this while very young. Some of us spent half a lifetime knowing there was something wrong but not understanding what, and were middle aged or later when we had an emotional breakthrough. Some of us have had every possible medical treatment to aid realigning our physical bodies with our minds. Some of us, for all sorts of totally valid reasons, have done no more than shaving our legs/growing our hair/choosing a perfume we like.

All of us are still finding out what it means to be a woman, the same as every woman spends her entire life finding out what it means to be a woman, we just started at it a little later.

Some of us are emotionally damaged or even have been physically abused during our attempt to be who we are within a society that largely does not want us to be who we are. We are still people of worth. We still want others to value us.

In short, to a couple a trans woman may be an experience, but to us it is our life. Treat us with respect and honesty and tenderness. Treat us as the women that we are.

With love and hugs, Polly xxx

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By *omsubdevon OP   Couple
over a year ago

Newton Abbot


"We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx

Treat them as someone very special, someone that you are privileged to meet, someone who's pleasure and fulfilment you will put first. All too often we are treated as being a sex toy for the man to shag up the arse, and ignored as soon as he has cum. We are not the warm up before the main course where the couple get it on.

Some of us like sex with men, some of us like sex with women, some of us like both either singly or together. All of us like being a full partner in the action, rather than being an object who is supposed to be grateful for getting any attention at all.

We are all different, we are all special. Some of us are only recently starting out on a voyage of discovery about our gender. Some of us have had many years investigating who we are. Some of us came to this while very young. Some of us spent half a lifetime knowing there was something wrong but not understanding what, and were middle aged or later when we had an emotional breakthrough. Some of us have had every possible medical treatment to aid realigning our physical bodies with our minds. Some of us, for all sorts of totally valid reasons, have done no more than shaving our legs/growing our hair/choosing a perfume we like.

All of us are still finding out what it means to be a woman, the same as every woman spends her entire life finding out what it means to be a woman, we just started at it a little later.

Some of us are emotionally damaged or even have been physically abused during our attempt to be who we are within a society that largely does not want us to be who we are. We are still people of worth. We still want others to value us.

In short, to a couple a trans woman may be an experience, but to us it is our life. Treat us with respect and honesty and tenderness. Treat us as the women that we are.

With love and hugs, Polly xxx"

l

Absolutely. Thank you xxx

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank"

That depends on the indervidual, some may be pre-operative transwomen, some may be transwomen not planning to undergo gender reassignment surgery others may be none binary or gender fluid and some may be crossdressers who don't identify as women.

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By *ilthy couple 111Couple
over a year ago

boston


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

"

hung and busty

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

hung and busty "

Not always the easiest combination to acheive as those using hormones to acheive the busty often find lower function inhibited.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

hung and busty "

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

That depends on the indervidual, some may be pre-operative transwomen, some may be transwomen not planning to undergo gender reassignment surgery others may be none binary or gender fluid and some may be crossdressers who don't identify as women. "

Yes, I understand all you've just said, but please, answer my question.

Frank

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By *issalignedTV/TS
over a year ago

London

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

"

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank"

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

That depends on the indervidual, some may be pre-operative transwomen, some may be transwomen not planning to undergo gender reassignment surgery others may be none binary or gender fluid and some may be crossdressers who don't identify as women.

Yes, I understand all you've just said, but please, answer my question.

Frank

"

You just had an answer to describing someone who presents as a woman and has a penis!

If you are interested in the label, that person would mostly likely be a TV (transvestite) with a typical penis and their own breasts. CD's like myself are less full-on and don't have the bust, and transexual (TS) men or women have typically had an op - or are pre-op or in some cases deny certain organs - so they probably won't have the required penis, though some will have one. Like the poster above said though, that penis might not be what the other party wants it to be!

So especially-convincing TV's with their own breasts are the most common group to describe what the OP seems to be looking for (or what you have surmised and then asked a question about).

Someone else brought up the term 'woman', I am not sure why.

pt

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By *andK78Couple
over a year ago

Newport

We have met a few, used to see one in particular often, probably our best nights.

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

"

I can think of someone unambiguously offensive for sure.

pt

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By *anilla-sinCouple
over a year ago

lancs

we are into this

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party..."

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank

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By *anilla-sinCouple
over a year ago

lancs

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

That depends on the indervidual, some may be pre-operative transwomen, some may be transwomen not planning to undergo gender reassignment surgery others may be none binary or gender fluid and some may be crossdressers who don't identify as women.

Yes, I understand all you've just said, but please, answer my question.

Frank

You just had an answer to describing someone who presents as a woman and has a penis!

If you are interested in the label, that person would mostly likely be a TV (transvestite) with a typical penis and their own breasts. CD's like myself are less full-on and don't have the bust, and transexual (TS) men or women have typically had an op - or are pre-op or in some cases deny certain organs - so they probably won't have the required penis, though some will have one. Like the poster above said though, that penis might not be what the other party wants it to be!

So especially-convincing TV's with their own breasts are the most common group to describe what the OP seems to be looking for (or what you have surmised and then asked a question about).

Someone else brought up the term 'woman', I am not sure why.

pt

"

I wondered how long it would take you to pop up. Mine is a simple question that requires a simple answer. Not one of your meandering soliloquies.

Frank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank"

Fair point. A trans woman is a woman.

However if they want a pre op trans woman (tits and a dick) then I have no idea how they can respectfully ask for that.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

I wouldn't be offended by seeing someone asking a pre-op transwoman with a functioning penis although others would. It often depends on what parts the indervidual suffers dysmorphia with and how it interacts with their general dysphoria.

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

That depends on the indervidual, some may be pre-operative transwomen, some may be transwomen not planning to undergo gender reassignment surgery others may be none binary or gender fluid and some may be crossdressers who don't identify as women.

Yes, I understand all you've just said, but please, answer my question.

Frank

You just had an answer to describing someone who presents as a woman and has a penis!

If you are interested in the label, that person would mostly likely be a TV (transvestite) with a typical penis and their own breasts. CD's like myself are less full-on and don't have the bust, and transexual (TS) men or women have typically had an op - or are pre-op or in some cases deny certain organs - so they probably won't have the required penis, though some will have one. Like the poster above said though, that penis might not be what the other party wants it to be!

So especially-convincing TV's with their own breasts are the most common group to describe what the OP seems to be looking for (or what you have surmised and then asked a question about).

Someone else brought up the term 'woman', I am not sure why.

pt

I wondered how long it would take you to pop up. Mine is a simple question that requires a simple answer. Not one of your meandering soliloquies.

Frank

"

If the answer is so-obviously "simple" why did you even need to ask it? You say you don't know the answer, yet you do *know* it has to be simple! Hmmm

It's not even all *that* complicated: TLDR: TV most likely! (But per the explanation, to try and avoid further rude and leading 'questions.')

To criticise what I have written is to criticise the whole are imo. It was a short description, but you simply won't allow the topic even that much space it seems.

And you have basically met both of our kind responses (two strong replies) with pure rudeness imo.

I'll always comment on this kind of thing when I see it. Don't imagine I'm following you around, that is the VERY last thing I would do on here I can assure you.

pt

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank

Fair point. A trans woman is a woman.

However if they want a pre op trans woman (tits and a dick) then I have no idea how they can respectfully ask for that. "

Thank you for your answer.

Frank

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"I wouldn't be offended by seeing someone asking a pre-op transwoman with a functioning penis although others would. It often depends on what parts the indervidual suffers dysmorphia with and how it interacts with their general dysphoria."

Thanks for your response

Frank

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

That depends on the indervidual, some may be pre-operative transwomen, some may be transwomen not planning to undergo gender reassignment surgery others may be none binary or gender fluid and some may be crossdressers who don't identify as women.

Yes, I understand all you've just said, but please, answer my question.

Frank

You just had an answer to describing someone who presents as a woman and has a penis!

If you are interested in the label, that person would mostly likely be a TV (transvestite) with a typical penis and their own breasts. CD's like myself are less full-on and don't have the bust, and transexual (TS) men or women have typically had an op - or are pre-op or in some cases deny certain organs - so they probably won't have the required penis, though some will have one. Like the poster above said though, that penis might not be what the other party wants it to be!

So especially-convincing TV's with their own breasts are the most common group to describe what the OP seems to be looking for (or what you have surmised and then asked a question about).

Someone else brought up the term 'woman', I am not sure why.

pt

I wondered how long it would take you to pop up. Mine is a simple question that requires a simple answer. Not one of your meandering soliloquies.

Frank

If the answer is so-obviously "simple" why did you even need to ask it? You say you don't know the answer, yet you do *know* it has to be simple! Hmmm

It's not even all *that* complicated: TLDR: TV most likely! (But per the explanation, to try and avoid further rude and leading 'questions.')

To criticise what I have written is to criticise the whole are imo. It was a short description, but you simply won't allow the topic even that much space it seems.

And you have basically met both of our kind responses (two strong replies) with pure rudeness imo.

I'll always comment on this kind of thing when I see it. Don't imagine I'm following you around, that is the VERY last thing I would do on here I can assure you.

pt "

I'm not going to respond to you again in this thread. As per usual you go off on one of your convoluted discourses that don't address a question that's being asked. If we were having a face-to-face conversation I'd turn my back on you and walk away, I'm sure that wouldn't stop your babblings though.

Frank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best of both worlds, amazing

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Chichester

On sites like this I am visibly a trans woman from my pics as I have my genitalia out in a few of them along with my breasts ..

In the real world no one knows I have a penis so I am just always referred to as a woman / lady / mam / miss etc Though I am pretty open at saying I am a trans woman if a conversation gets going and it seems there is an interest beyond chatting

On here just the term trans is fine for me to be referred to as .

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By *lamgirl1TV/TS
over a year ago

cheshire

Always looking for couples as Chloe but fairly hard to find them

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank"

Hi Frank, I'm not taking trans as being an attack on me, and tbh I am probably being a bit hypersensitive. My replies are not so much about the specifics of any single post here, more to do with the general tone of how these types of thread often go. In fact to do with the general tone of how too many of the "we're looking for..." threads go, whatever type of person is being sought.

Today I think that I was hypersensitised by earlier reading a "we're looking for a unicorn..." thread that went badly. All too often these threads are phrased as being that a person of type X is sought to fulfill the fantasy of Mr or Mrs or both, with all the emphasis being on what the seeker is going to get out of it, nothing about the feelings of the person being sought. Sometimes the wording is as if we are not even in the room, as if we are a commodity being looked up in a catalogue. The tone can be as if we should be grateful for the attention given to us by the couple, that we should feel privileged to be allowed into the party.

As I say, maybe I am just feeling a bit low at the moment (this month is the anniversary of some major events in my life of last year, September/October will probably always be bad months for me now), and hypersensitive because of the general damage that our society inflicts upon trans women of all types.

I am not targeting you Frank, really just saying can we all please be a bit more thoughtful in the way that we phrase our dialogues, which might lead towards more successful and pleasurable results for all of us. With love and hugs, Polly xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of helpful comments here ,some not so , a label is just a label, chatting is good ,breaking the ice as it were, if people aren't interested then no point going beyond chatting, l cant see a problem.

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By *omsubdevon OP   Couple
over a year ago

Newton Abbot


"On sites like this I am visibly a trans woman from my pics as I have my genitalia out in a few of them along with my breasts ..

In the real world no one knows I have a penis so I am just always referred to as a woman / lady / mam / miss etc Though I am pretty open at saying I am a trans woman if a conversation gets going and it seems there is an interest beyond chatting

On here just the term trans is fine for me to be referred to as .

"

That's why we love your profile xxx

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By *omsubdevon OP   Couple
over a year ago

Newton Abbot


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank

Hi Frank, I'm not taking trans as being an attack on me, and tbh I am probably being a bit hypersensitive. My replies are not so much about the specifics of any single post here, more to do with the general tone of how these types of thread often go. In fact to do with the general tone of how too many of the "we're looking for..." threads go, whatever type of person is being sought.

Today I think that I was hypersensitised by earlier reading a "we're looking for a unicorn..." thread that went badly. All too often these threads are phrased as being that a person of type X is sought to fulfill the fantasy of Mr or Mrs or both, with all the emphasis being on what the seeker is going to get out of it, nothing about the feelings of the person being sought. Sometimes the wording is as if we are not even in the room, as if we are a commodity being looked up in a catalogue. The tone can be as if we should be grateful for the attention given to us by the couple, that we should feel privileged to be allowed into the party.

As I say, maybe I am just feeling a bit low at the moment (this month is the anniversary of some major events in my life of last year, September/October will probably always be bad months for me now), and hypersensitive because of the general damage that our society inflicts upon trans women of all types.

I am not targeting you Frank, really just saying can we all please be a bit more thoughtful in the way that we phrase our dialogues, which might lead towards more successful and pleasurable results for all of us. With love and hugs, Polly xxx"

Well written. Hope you are ok. Take care x

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

That depends on the indervidual, some may be pre-operative transwomen, some may be transwomen not planning to undergo gender reassignment surgery others may be none binary or gender fluid and some may be crossdressers who don't identify as women.

Yes, I understand all you've just said, but please, answer my question.

Frank

You just had an answer to describing someone who presents as a woman and has a penis!

If you are interested in the label, that person would mostly likely be a TV (transvestite) with a typical penis and their own breasts. CD's like myself are less full-on and don't have the bust, and transexual (TS) men or women have typically had an op - or are pre-op or in some cases deny certain organs - so they probably won't have the required penis, though some will have one. Like the poster above said though, that penis might not be what the other party wants it to be!

So especially-convincing TV's with their own breasts are the most common group to describe what the OP seems to be looking for (or what you have surmised and then asked a question about).

Someone else brought up the term 'woman', I am not sure why.

pt

I wondered how long it would take you to pop up. Mine is a simple question that requires a simple answer. Not one of your meandering soliloquies.

Frank

If the answer is so-obviously "simple" why did you even need to ask it? You say you don't know the answer, yet you do *know* it has to be simple! Hmmm

It's not even all *that* complicated: TLDR: TV most likely! (But per the explanation, to try and avoid further rude and leading 'questions.')

To criticise what I have written is to criticise the whole are imo. It was a short description, but you simply won't allow the topic even that much space it seems.

And you have basically met both of our kind responses (two strong replies) with pure rudeness imo.

I'll always comment on this kind of thing when I see it. Don't imagine I'm following you around, that is the VERY last thing I would do on here I can assure you.

pt

I'm not going to respond to you again in this thread. As per usual you go off on one of your convoluted discourses that don't address a question that's being asked. If we were having a face-to-face conversation I'd turn my back on you and walk away, I'm sure that wouldn't stop your babblings though.

Frank

"

The way you talk to me is appalling.

It has never once been deserved, I just end up getting tired of your instantly rude reactions to my thoughts or explanations - but who wouldn't.

And I'm not playing politeness games as you just don't deserve them, I see NOTHING kind about your demanding questions in this area.

pt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol what is happeing here people...

Why do some get so triggered.

I understand both sides but also Frank there had a good question ,however i can see someone would think it as a provocation but even if it was ,why would anyone get offended by some other people opinions.

You live your life as you want , but there is reality ofcourse that we all should be connected to and in this case if i m speaking to a person and that says is a woman , i would expect pussy down , and if that person would only later show a cock ,then it would be very rude . But if said before then ofcourse if both sides are into it ..go for it.

I mean wouldnt you trans girls also get dissapointed if you saw a guy very handsome and you were horny for some good anal..and then it turns out that guy has a pussy? I m sure you d be dissapointed

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I don't think anyone is going to be offended if someone starts with "transvestite" (or TV) and leads on to the breasts etc, or starts with "transexual" (trans, TS etc) and leads on to the penis... they are both valid and nobody will throw a huff!

Fab itself uses TS/TV and CD as labels.

Obviously if someone has already described themselves you will likely want to take their lead!

And for what it's worth (as it's forever the elephant in the room) when to use 'woman' will be under debate for a long time to come imo and it simply isn't needed in these conversations at all!

Yes it might be used, but it simply isn't *needed*.

So it shouldn't be a hitch.

pt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And ofcourse all people should be treated with respect ..that s normal .

No matter what their sexuality or appearence is

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I've had a few meets with couples, many great; some not so great.

I have no intention of being a tick on a bucket list for someone who wants to 'try a trans' or who wants me as a present for their other half.

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Lol what is happeing here people...

Why do some get so triggered.

I understand both sides but also Frank there had a good question ,however i can see someone would think it as a provocation but even if it was ,why would anyone get offended by some other people opinions.

You live your life as you want , but there is reality ofcourse that we all should be connected to and in this case if i m speaking to a person and that says is a woman , i would expect pussy down , and if that person would only later show a cock ,then it would be very rude . But if said before then ofcourse if both sides are into it ..go for it.

I mean wouldnt you trans girls also get dissapointed if you saw a guy very handsome and you were horny for some good anal..and then it turns out that guy has a pussy? I m sure you d be dissapointed

"

You seem to be suggesting Frank's "simple question" was also an opinion (and one that you share).

pt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lol what is happeing here people...

Why do some get so triggered.

I understand both sides but also Frank there had a good question ,however i can see someone would think it as a provocation but even if it was ,why would anyone get offended by some other people opinions.

You live your life as you want , but there is reality ofcourse that we all should be connected to and in this case if i m speaking to a person and that says is a woman , i would expect pussy down , and if that person would only later show a cock ,then it would be very rude . But if said before then ofcourse if both sides are into it ..go for it.

I mean wouldnt you trans girls also get dissapointed if you saw a guy very handsome and you were horny for some good anal..and then it turns out that guy has a pussy? I m sure you d be dissapointed

You seem to be suggesting Frank's "simple question" was also an opinion (and one that you share).

pt"

You dont have to put opinions onto me without me openly saying them. I just thought it was interesting question and for that i read answers.

Many men have interest in meeting trans and thats fine . Everybody has their choice

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Lol what is happeing here people...

Why do some get so triggered.

I understand both sides but also Frank there had a good question ,however i can see someone would think it as a provocation but even if it was ,why would anyone get offended by some other people opinions.

You live your life as you want , but there is reality ofcourse that we all should be connected to and in this case if i m speaking to a person and that says is a woman , i would expect pussy down , and if that person would only later show a cock ,then it would be very rude . But if said before then ofcourse if both sides are into it ..go for it.

I mean wouldnt you trans girls also get dissapointed if you saw a guy very handsome and you were horny for some good anal..and then it turns out that guy has a pussy? I m sure you d be dissapointed

-You seem to be suggesting Frank's "simple question" was also an opinion (and one that you share).

pt

You dont have to put opinions onto me without me openly saying them.

"

-loljlol

pt

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank

Hi Frank, I'm not taking trans as being an attack on me, and tbh I am probably being a bit hypersensitive. My replies are not so much about the specifics of any single post here, more to do with the general tone of how these types of thread often go. In fact to do with the general tone of how too many of the "we're looking for..." threads go, whatever type of person is being sought.

Today I think that I was hypersensitised by earlier reading a "we're looking for a unicorn..." thread that went badly. All too often these threads are phrased as being that a person of type X is sought to fulfill the fantasy of Mr or Mrs or both, with all the emphasis being on what the seeker is going to get out of it, nothing about the feelings of the person being sought. Sometimes the wording is as if we are not even in the room, as if we are a commodity being looked up in a catalogue. The tone can be as if we should be grateful for the attention given to us by the couple, that we should feel privileged to be allowed into the party.

As I say, maybe I am just feeling a bit low at the moment (this month is the anniversary of some major events in my life of last year, September/October will probably always be bad months for me now), and hypersensitive because of the general damage that our society inflicts upon trans women of all types.

I am not targeting you Frank, really just saying can we all please be a bit more thoughtful in the way that we phrase our dialogues, which might lead towards more successful and pleasurable results for all of us. With love and hugs, Polly xxx"

Thanks for your answer, Polly. If we had a hug emoji I'd send you one.

Frank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank

Hi Frank, I'm not taking trans as being an attack on me, and tbh I am probably being a bit hypersensitive. My replies are not so much about the specifics of any single post here, more to do with the general tone of how these types of thread often go. In fact to do with the general tone of how too many of the "we're looking for..." threads go, whatever type of person is being sought.

Today I think that I was hypersensitised by earlier reading a "we're looking for a unicorn..." thread that went badly. All too often these threads are phrased as being that a person of type X is sought to fulfill the fantasy of Mr or Mrs or both, with all the emphasis being on what the seeker is going to get out of it, nothing about the feelings of the person being sought. Sometimes the wording is as if we are not even in the room, as if we are a commodity being looked up in a catalogue. The tone can be as if we should be grateful for the attention given to us by the couple, that we should feel privileged to be allowed into the party.

As I say, maybe I am just feeling a bit low at the moment (this month is the anniversary of some major events in my life of last year, September/October will probably always be bad months for me now), and hypersensitive because of the general damage that our society inflicts upon trans women of all types.

I am not targeting you Frank, really just saying can we all please be a bit more thoughtful in the way that we phrase our dialogues, which might lead towards more successful and pleasurable results for all of us. With love and hugs, Polly xxx

Thanks for your answer, Polly. If we had a hug emoji I'd send you one.

Frank"

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank

Hi Frank, I'm not taking trans as being an attack on me, and tbh I am probably being a bit hypersensitive. My replies are not so much about the specifics of any single post here, more to do with the general tone of how these types of thread often go. In fact to do with the general tone of how too many of the "we're looking for..." threads go, whatever type of person is being sought.

Today I think that I was hypersensitised by earlier reading a "we're looking for a unicorn..." thread that went badly. All too often these threads are phrased as being that a person of type X is sought to fulfill the fantasy of Mr or Mrs or both, with all the emphasis being on what the seeker is going to get out of it, nothing about the feelings of the person being sought. Sometimes the wording is as if we are not even in the room, as if we are a commodity being looked up in a catalogue. The tone can be as if we should be grateful for the attention given to us by the couple, that we should feel privileged to be allowed into the party.

As I say, maybe I am just feeling a bit low at the moment (this month is the anniversary of some major events in my life of last year, September/October will probably always be bad months for me now), and hypersensitive because of the general damage that our society inflicts upon trans women of all types.

I am not targeting you Frank, really just saying can we all please be a bit more thoughtful in the way that we phrase our dialogues, which might lead towards more successful and pleasurable results for all of us. With love and hugs, Polly xxx

Thanks for your answer, Polly. If we had a hug emoji I'd send you one.

Frank

"

Lol thanks, but I wanted to give a personal one without involving you lot

Frank

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By *osie BycrossTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee

I would very much agree with that

Very difficult to find a couple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx"

I want a trans girl that’s up for meeting a bald, rugby physiqued Welsh man

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By *razy_KatCouple
over a year ago

London

I've had the pleasure of spending a few evenings. And had great fun xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've had the pleasure of spending a few evenings. And had great fun xx"

Lucky them

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"So a woman.

I could be wrong but I think what they are after is someone who presents as a woman but has a penis. How would you describe such a person?

Frank

Perhaps they should be more specific as to what body parts they require.

So you'd prefer the presumably offensive 'chick with a dick'? They'd be no ambiguity then.

Frank

We prefer someone to refer to us directly as a person, rather than acting as if we are an object that is being borrowed from a third party...

Hey Polly, I'm not trying to score points or trying to be clever, but, if a person wants to meet someone who presents as a woman but has a penis how would they seek such a person? You can't say you're seeking a woman, as indicated above, for obvious reasons.

How else would you say it other than saying you'd like to meet a trans woman? I see it as no different to saying you want to meet a man with an 8+ inch dick, or white men, or black men, or tall men, or a BBW. 'Trans' is a discriptor, that's all, not an attack on you or anyone else, in this instance as least.

Frank

Hi Frank, I'm not taking trans as being an attack on me, and tbh I am probably being a bit hypersensitive. My replies are not so much about the specifics of any single post here, more to do with the general tone of how these types of thread often go. In fact to do with the general tone of how too many of the "we're looking for..." threads go, whatever type of person is being sought.

Today I think that I was hypersensitised by earlier reading a "we're looking for a unicorn..." thread that went badly. All too often these threads are phrased as being that a person of type X is sought to fulfill the fantasy of Mr or Mrs or both, with all the emphasis being on what the seeker is going to get out of it, nothing about the feelings of the person being sought. Sometimes the wording is as if we are not even in the room, as if we are a commodity being looked up in a catalogue. The tone can be as if we should be grateful for the attention given to us by the couple, that we should feel privileged to be allowed into the party.

As I say, maybe I am just feeling a bit low at the moment (this month is the anniversary of some major events in my life of last year, September/October will probably always be bad months for me now), and hypersensitive because of the general damage that our society inflicts upon trans women of all types.

I am not targeting you Frank, really just saying can we all please be a bit more thoughtful in the way that we phrase our dialogues, which might lead towards more successful and pleasurable results for all of us. With love and hugs, Polly xxx

Thanks for your answer, Polly. If we had a hug emoji I'd send you one.

Frank

"

It wasn't an answer Frank it was a request. Please read it, because it's about the whole tone, for everyone involved and for the whole of the time.

Too often people offer some rainbow when someone is clearly upset, yet just tow the exact same line when the opportunity next arises. The whole thing gets tiring.

pt

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By *d_deeTV/TS
over a year ago

cheshire

Would love to meet a couple.

They are like gold dust

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it that almost every thread about Trans/Tv’s/Cd’s always descends into a battle ground?

They try and be the mediators whilst others argue and detract from the original question.

Polly, you’re always the voice of reason on these threads. So sorry you’re having a rough time. Much love to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx

Treat them as someone very special, someone that you are privileged to meet, someone who's pleasure and fulfilment you will put first. All too often we are treated as being a sex toy for the man to shag up the arse, and ignored as soon as he has cum. We are not the warm up before the main course where the couple get it on.

Some of us like sex with men, some of us like sex with women, some of us like both either singly or together. All of us like being a full partner in the action, rather than being an object who is supposed to be grateful for getting any attention at all.

We are all different, we are all special. Some of us are only recently starting out on a voyage of discovery about our gender. Some of us have had many years investigating who we are. Some of us came to this while very young. Some of us spent half a lifetime knowing there was something wrong but not understanding what, and were middle aged or later when we had an emotional breakthrough. Some of us have had every possible medical treatment to aid realigning our physical bodies with our minds. Some of us, for all sorts of totally valid reasons, have done no more than shaving our legs/growing our hair/choosing a perfume we like.

All of us are still finding out what it means to be a woman, the same as every woman spends her entire life finding out what it means to be a woman, we just started at it a little later.

Some of us are emotionally damaged or even have been physically abused during our attempt to be who we are within a society that largely does not want us to be who we are. We are still people of worth. We still want others to value us.

In short, to a couple a trans woman may be an experience, but to us it is our life. Treat us with respect and honesty and tenderness. Treat us as the women that we are.

With love and hugs, Polly xxx"

Lovely post Polly. Often couples treat bi girls the same - just a toy to fulfil their 3 way fantasy

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

It's the way they always go because of politics. Towards the end of them someone always comes in and makes a comment over who says what as well! They really are all the same. Some just get more populated than others.

pt

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By *D_GinaTV/TS
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Wife and I have had fun with a TV and I also love dressing up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love to all

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"Why is it that almost every thread about Trans/Tv’s/Cd’s always descends into a battle ground?

They try and be the mediators whilst others argue and detract from the original question.

Polly, you’re always the voice of reason on these threads. So sorry you’re having a rough time. Much love to you "

Thank you Red. Much love to you as well

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

yep i love them,,

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By *ojosmilerMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"We are thinking about meeting a trans girl as a couple. Any couples had the pleasure? How did it go and would you meet again? Any trans girls please feel free to message us. All advice appreciated. Lots of love xx"

I would love to find a couple to join but had no such luck yet xxx

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By *x9rtonyMan
over a year ago

uk


"On sites like this I am visibly a trans woman from my pics as I have my genitalia out in a few of them along with my breasts ..

In the real world no one knows I have a penis so I am just always referred to as a woman / lady / mam / miss etc Though I am pretty open at saying I am a trans woman if a conversation gets going and it seems there is an interest beyond chatting

On here just the term trans is fine for me to be referred to as .

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gorgeous

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By *atiecross300TV/TS
over a year ago

lincoln

Hi all, I think a couple could be what I need. I don't want a man, but would like to push my boundaries, so having a woman dom me to take a real cock could be fun. Convincing cd's tv's would be welcome first x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be keeping a close eye on this one

Please get in contact anyone who loves a CD who’s downright naughty

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By *rs Greedy and Mr GirthyCouple
over a year ago

Rotherham


"I’m very curious about mature couples but not if the man is bottom "

Shame you're far away

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