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"Yes that is one of the things we was talking about like that just say yes to everything to get the meet then have no intention of actually listening they just think they going to come empty their balls and leave, leaving everyone else but them unsatisfied, and we not sure how we would react if someone became aggressive like that it probably wouldn't end well but that is a huge fear and risk with doing this sort of thing maybe clubs are the way forward?" Shit situation to be in but yeah I’d imagine a club scene provides an extra layer of security for issues like this | |||
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"We imagine it can be a very awkward and scary experience for a solo female" It is. On my own I learned to toughen up and fast. | |||
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"Yes we understand this but what if they seem OK over messages over time and all is sunshine and rainbows then when time comes they are not doing what you spoke about and are just worrying about their needs? We imagine it's alot more dangerous and difficult for solo females like yourself, that's why I love having my partner there it's not even a cuck thing it's so I feel more safe and secure knowing he's there if it goes wrong you know" I guess it's a chance you take. I mean it could also go horribly wrong for a single person meeting a couple. I know of one guy who had a very traumatic experience but then, he didnt really know the couple that well. Think I take too long to get to the point of meeting that it puts most off lol | |||
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"We imagine it can be a very awkward and scary experience for a solo female It is. On my own I learned to toughen up and fast." that is a shame to hear you had to do that and change yourself and your nature in order to feel safe, but glad you have, shame you ain't closer we would love to meet a genuine female | |||
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"Yes we understand this but what if they seem OK over messages over time and all is sunshine and rainbows then when time comes they are not doing what you spoke about and are just worrying about their needs? We imagine it's alot more dangerous and difficult for solo females like yourself, that's why I love having my partner there it's not even a cuck thing it's so I feel more safe and secure knowing he's there if it goes wrong you know I guess it's a chance you take. I mean it could also go horribly wrong for a single person meeting a couple. I know of one guy who had a very traumatic experience but then, he didnt really know the couple that well. Think I take too long to get to the point of meeting that it puts most off lol" hey it shouldn't matter how long it takes specially for a single female you have to make sure your 1000% comfortable and feel safe you know and if people don't understand that then that's there problem, and or really never thought about it from a single lads point or view a mean if he's straight and they try to make him do Bi stuff i can see we're it may go wrong | |||
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"We imagine it can be a very awkward and scary experience for a solo female It is. On my own I learned to toughen up and fast. that is a shame to hear you had to do that and change yourself and your nature in order to feel safe, but glad you have, shame you ain't closer we would love to meet a genuine female " Thanks. I'm not meeting at the moment so it's immaterial, but I appreciate it. | |||
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"We had a bit of an experience at a club, kez only wants to meet ladies, we chatted to a couple and agreed the ladies would go into a room to play we would wait outside and watch through the mirrors. The guy was almost banging the door down to get in as he decided he should be part of the experience, he started to pressure me to in a slightly aggressive way, pretty much saying it was wrong without us, even though that’s what was agreed. We know all couples aren’t like that but wasn’t a good experience." Clubs don't tend to take kindly to that sort of nonsense. I've seen people thrown out for less. | |||
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"We had a bit of an experience at a club, kez only wants to meet ladies, we chatted to a couple and agreed the ladies would go into a room to play we would wait outside and watch through the mirrors. The guy was almost banging the door down to get in as he decided he should be part of the experience, he started to pressure me to in a slightly aggressive way, pretty much saying it was wrong without us, even though that’s what was agreed. We know all couples aren’t like that but wasn’t a good experience. Clubs don't tend to take kindly to that sort of nonsense. I've seen people thrown out for less." Fortunately I managed him as best I could, and kez wasn’t that aware it was happening at the time so had a fun experience. | |||
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"Hey guys just curious so putting this out there and looking to see if anyone else has had it happen and how they have delt with it or would if it happened to them... So you arrange a meet and from our experience it's the solo Males who always try to overstep and break rules set by the couple or female, For instance you set limits or boundaries and then during the meet the male trys to go into another hole or touchs someone or something he's been told not to or they just don't listen like if you want it soft and gentle and they just go hard and rough (gettingvthemselves off) or you want it hard and fast but they continue opposite to your wishes?? Also another big one when told to use protection and they try it on without or try to remove the condom slyly mid meet with out consent?? " This is the reason it's almost impossible for a single guy to find a couple on here. In my view it would me being invited into that side of a couples relationship and would have the upmost respect for their wishes and limits. Things can happen in the heat of passion but a gentle reminder would have me back on track! It's about fun for all involved not just one person, if the limits set are not what your looking move on until you find what your looking for. And as for removing a condom mid meet that's just beyond belief and utterly rude and disrespectful | |||
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"We had a bit of an experience at a club, kez only wants to meet ladies, we chatted to a couple and agreed the ladies would go into a room to play we would wait outside and watch through the mirrors. The guy was almost banging the door down to get in as he decided he should be part of the experience, he started to pressure me to in a slightly aggressive way, pretty much saying it was wrong without us, even though that’s what was agreed. We know all couples aren’t like that but wasn’t a good experience." yes that's not good is it at all, I think experiences like that can ruin the whole swinging experience, hopefully it was still an enjoyable night and it didn't ruin it completely | |||
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"Hey guys just curious so putting this out there and looking to see if anyone else has had it happen and how they have delt with it or would if it happened to them... So you arrange a meet and from our experience it's the solo Males who always try to overstep and break rules set by the couple or female, For instance you set limits or boundaries and then during the meet the male trys to go into another hole or touchs someone or something he's been told not to or they just don't listen like if you want it soft and gentle and they just go hard and rough (gettingvthemselves off) or you want it hard and fast but they continue opposite to your wishes?? Also another big one when told to use protection and they try it on without or try to remove the condom slyly mid meet with out consent?? This is the reason it's almost impossible for a single guy to find a couple on here. In my view it would me being invited into that side of a couples relationship and would have the upmost respect for their wishes and limits. Things can happen in the heat of passion but a gentle reminder would have me back on track! It's about fun for all involved not just one person, if the limits set are not what your looking move on until you find what your looking for. And as for removing a condom mid meet that's just beyond belief and utterly rude and disrespectful " It really is but we have seen and know alot of people have had the experience of someone doing it and trying to go places they not allowed and also removing the condom when asked not to | |||
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"We are nervous of meeting because of aggressive males and some couples. We have developed some regular males but would like to expand the group, but remain cautious. We are super cautious around sexual health too, and to be honest if a guy pulled off a condom I think Hubby would castrate him LOL " Are OK that's good that you guys have had nothing but good experiences maybe it's a location thing aswell and age range or the Males maybe? | |||
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"Can't understand the mentality of people who do this. There is a strong community on here and if your an asshole, word gets around. It goes back to the idea that this is a hook up site, not a swingers site. Seriously, people have boundaries, respect them. rant over " Ye we see that aswell it's more or a hook up fancy a shag site rather then a swingers site sometimes which isn't the same the core things are totally different, hook ups are more for people to meet up get what they want and leave, we're as swinging we believe is more about the act of aex and building bonds and possibly even friendships and long time play with partners who we can have socials and chats with without judgement and even little naughty weekends away you know, maybe its just us and we're weird lol | |||
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"Be careful when you folks wish for certain types of guys who are 6ft plus musclely and domineering, those are the type of guys you definately want to be careful off" That's not my experience at all. Height and muscles don't correlate with bad behaviour. Domineering, maybe, but it's not for sure. | |||
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"No I said to be careful of them, Im not saying all guys over 6ft plus are bad " Nor did I. I said there was no correlation. I don't think it's helpful to demonise people based on their characteristics like height, and in fact might be dangerous if people assume that other demographics are safer. Look out for everyone. | |||
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"Be careful when you folks wish for certain types of guys who are 6ft plus musclely and domineering, those are the type of guys you definately want to be careful off" What absolute shite. Men of all shapes and sizes can be pricks and suggesting people play a role in their own poor experiences by virtue of their attraction preferences (which you presumably don’t meet) is gross. | |||
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"We imagine it can be a very awkward and scary experience for a solo female" For me it's about repetition. Being clear that it's a social first. That there's no expectations therefore no one can get upset. The single guys can push even on message and it's simply repeating again. This is what I'm offering (a brew /chat) If you don't like that then so long. I've asked them if they were betting men... Is it worth throwing away the chance of getting on, forming regular meetings just because you can't keep your pants on for the first social. I don't need fab I don't feel bad about showing someone the door if they arrive and decide they will try to rewrite the plan | |||
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"We imagine it can be a very awkward and scary experience for a solo female For me it's about repetition. Being clear that it's a social first. That there's no expectations therefore no one can get upset. The single guys can push even on message and it's simply repeating again. This is what I'm offering (a brew /chat) If you don't like that then so long. I've asked them if they were betting men... Is it worth throwing away the chance of getting on, forming regular meetings just because you can't keep your pants on for the first social. I don't need fab I don't feel bad about showing someone the door if they arrive and decide they will try to rewrite the plan " Good advice! | |||
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"Be careful when you folks wish for certain types of guys who are 6ft plus musclely and domineering, those are the type of guys you definately want to be careful off" I cannot imagine anyone describing themselves as domineering. It's a far cry from being dominant. | |||
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"Napoleon syndrome, often the opposite. Sometimes it's not a big guy that's the problem." Yep, I've experienced this in real life. Like they have something to prove. | |||
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"We imagine it can be a very awkward and scary experience for a solo female For me it's about repetition. Being clear that it's a social first. That there's no expectations therefore no one can get upset. The single guys can push even on message and it's simply repeating again. This is what I'm offering (a brew /chat) If you don't like that then so long. I've asked them if they were betting men... Is it worth throwing away the chance of getting on, forming regular meetings just because you can't keep your pants on for the first social. I don't need fab I don't feel bad about showing someone the door if they arrive and decide they will try to rewrite the plan " A social and in public. | |||
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"We had met this couple a few times and everything had gone well previously so maybe our guard had dropped a little. The guy tried to slip his condom off on the sly and I Steve spotted him. All play stopped and i kicked the couple out of our house real sharp. His wife contacted us a few days later to ask what had happened as i never said at the time i just said get dressed and go. I did not tell her why as we really liked her and just said ask your husband. she contacted us a few weeks later as we had spotted the profile on here had changed from a couple to a Fem. We did meet her again and she had thrown him out over it . " That is one of our fears as I am not on birth control currently so the risk is there and obviously accidents can happen but trying to do it deliberately that's just out or order in our opinion, glad you guys got to enjoy her on her own after tho. | |||
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"I must admit I'm finding it a bit of a minefield! I've rejoined fab after a few years break. And I think I've forgotten my boundaries. I've been caught out by not enforcing them strongly enough, and doing things on socials I didn't feel comfortable with. So my lessons are....strong boundaries and don't be afraid to strongly enforce them. And just because the guy 'thinks' he's a gentleman, doesn't mean he is! And finally pay attention to those red flags, don't second guess them, act on them! " Agreed 100% there is always signs and red flags however subtle and you should always go with your gut. | |||
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"Is it perhaps something to do with how you go about choosing guys to meet?" Some people are really good at hiding there true intentions but I guess like we have said before maybe following your gut instincts and keeping an eye out for those red flags. | |||
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"You are meeting the wrong people. " This was a board question we ain't speaking from personal experience we have only had minor slips we are asking about people who have taken it to far and crossed lines | |||
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"Single guys can be a issue not all, we do unfortunately tend to give them a wider berth as a couple and lean towards ladies on there terms, just works better for us and them also as meetings repeat themselves. " Yes we are looking to find similar regular meeting partners either solo females or couples, we ain't looking to meet the whole site like some that's there business no judgement here, but we just wanting to have fun and build those connections for long-term fun all round | |||
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"We imagine it can be a very awkward and scary experience for a solo female For me it's about repetition. Being clear that it's a social first. That there's no expectations therefore no one can get upset. The single guys can push even on message and it's simply repeating again. This is what I'm offering (a brew /chat) If you don't like that then so long. I've asked them if they were betting men... Is it worth throwing away the chance of getting on, forming regular meetings just because you can't keep your pants on for the first social. I don't need fab I don't feel bad about showing someone the door if they arrive and decide they will try to rewrite the plan " Yes. Being very clear about your boundaries gets rid of a lot of potential problems, because a lot of people will try to take the piss from the word 'coffee'. Coffee means coffee (or water or tea or a beer or...). It doesn't mean coffee and a kiss, a coffee and a grope, a coffee and oral... | |||
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"Hey guys just curious so putting this out there and looking to see if anyone else has had it happen and how they have delt with it or would if it happened to them... So you arrange a meet and from our experience it's the solo Males who always try to overstep and break rules set by the couple or female, For instance you set limits or boundaries and then during the meet the male trys to go into another hole or touchs someone or something he's been told not to or they just don't listen like if you want it soft and gentle and they just go hard and rough (gettingvthemselves off) or you want it hard and fast but they continue opposite to your wishes?? Also another big one when told to use protection and they try it on without or try to remove the condom slyly mid meet with out consent?? " There's a whole host of issues here and a very broad range. For example someone's being too gentle, I would be irritated and stop the play. Being rough is something I would want but I would be negotiating that first I don't think guys should do that without checking first. Entering holes that they were told not to , that would have them chucked out if it were me get to fuck with that. Taking a condom off slyly is called stealthing and is illegal again get the fuck away from me Who are these creeps Jesus. I can only speak for myself but clubs at least there are people around and eyes everywhere. Not foolproof but safer in my opinion. Or get to know people extremely well through socialising first | |||
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" Yes. Being very clear about your boundaries gets rid of a lot of potential problems, because a lot of people will try to take the piss from the word 'coffee'. Coffee means coffee (or water or tea or a beer or...). It doesn't mean coffee and a kiss, a coffee and a grope, a coffee and oral..." Yep exactly! I guess I've been worried I'd kill the mood. But you guys make some valid points! Thanks OP for putting this thread up, it's good advice for me too! X | |||
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"Hey guys just curious so putting this out there and looking to see if anyone else has had it happen and how they have delt with it or would if it happened to them... So you arrange a meet and from our experience it's the solo Males who always try to overstep and break rules set by the couple or female, For instance you set limits or boundaries and then during the meet the male trys to go into another hole or touchs someone or something he's been told not to or they just don't listen like if you want it soft and gentle and they just go hard and rough (gettingvthemselves off) or you want it hard and fast but they continue opposite to your wishes?? Also another big one when told to use protection and they try it on without or try to remove the condom slyly mid meet with out consent?? There's a whole host of issues here and a very broad range. For example someone's being too gentle, I would be irritated and stop the play. Being rough is something I would want but I would be negotiating that first I don't think guys should do that without checking first. Entering holes that they were told not to , that would have them chucked out if it were me get to fuck with that. Taking a condom off slyly is called stealthing and is illegal again get the fuck away from me Who are these creeps Jesus. I can only speak for myself but clubs at least there are people around and eyes everywhere. Not foolproof but safer in my opinion. Or get to know people extremely well through socialising first " The issues and topics we posted are not all our experiences just some but also of people we know, we put this out there for insight and advise incase it happened to us or others and it gives a chance for others to share there experiences and also gives people who might be to shy to ask or don't realise they are being taken advantage and this thread may help them. If it helps anyone then it's worth it. But as you mentioned about clubs we are leaning more that way but some have had bad experiences there also so it's a risk reward situation isn't it. Shame we can't all just play safe in a ideal world hey | |||
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" Yes. Being very clear about your boundaries gets rid of a lot of potential problems, because a lot of people will try to take the piss from the word 'coffee'. Coffee means coffee (or water or tea or a beer or...). It doesn't mean coffee and a kiss, a coffee and a grope, a coffee and oral... Yep exactly! I guess I've been worried I'd kill the mood. But you guys make some valid points! Thanks OP for putting this thread up, it's good advice for me too! X" We are really glad you have found something helpful. | |||
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"We've never had a problem with single guys that we've met privately, but have encountered the occasional problem in clubs. While we're happy to play with bi guys as long as they agree to play straight we have had a few that have still made a grab for B's cock. They apparently believe the myth (widely promoted on Fab) that everyone is a bit bi so it would be ok. For us play stops immediately and the mood is lost." Can I say first of all wow!! You have found the fountain of youth because you really don't look 56 years old. And yeah I don't get why some bi guys think it's ok to try it on? I'm straight and guys just don't float my boat no matter how good looking they are,but I am totally fine with being in close quarters in the nude with them as long as the lady involved wants that with both of us involved. At any rate I do hope you both find some great people to enjoy your free time with that know how to respect your boundaries. | |||
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"We've never had a problem with single guys that we've met privately, but have encountered the occasional problem in clubs. While we're happy to play with bi guys as long as they agree to play straight we have had a few that have still made a grab for B's cock. They apparently believe the myth (widely promoted on Fab) that everyone is a bit bi so it would be ok. For us play stops immediately and the mood is lost. Can I say first of all wow!! You have found the fountain of youth because you really don't look 56 years old. And yeah I don't get why some bi guys think it's ok to try it on? I'm straight and guys just don't float my boat no matter how good looking they are,but I am totally fine with being in close quarters in the nude with them as long as the lady involved wants that with both of us involved. At any rate I do hope you both find some great people to enjoy your free time with that know how to respect your boundaries. " Iv had this same situation happen with a couple, it's clear on my profile I am straight. Couples profile was also down as straight but within the first half hour it was clear they had other intentions! I just left and received dogs abuse whilst I got dressed. It's why I prefer sober meets and rather not meet people under the influence of anything | |||
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"If anyone was disrespectful enough to try and overstep pre-agreed boundaries without having a consent gaining conversation, they would be shown the door. Sure, ask a question if you want to see if any thoughts had changed but if the response is no, then that's it. C x " Exactly, after some play, or on any further meets you can respectfully ask about limits again, but you should never just take it upon yourself to change the boundaries. Everyone should be in happy agreement, not just agreeing through peer pressure. This to me is a very important, if not the most important part of swinging. | |||
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"We've never had a problem with single guys that we've met privately, but have encountered the occasional problem in clubs. While we're happy to play with bi guys as long as they agree to play straight we have had a few that have still made a grab for B's cock. They apparently believe the myth (widely promoted on Fab) that everyone is a bit bi so it would be ok. For us play stops immediately and the mood is lost." That is something that worries me if and when we meet bi guys. | |||
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"We've never had a problem with single guys that we've met privately, but have encountered the occasional problem in clubs. While we're happy to play with bi guys as long as they agree to play straight we have had a few that have still made a grab for B's cock. They apparently believe the myth (widely promoted on Fab) that everyone is a bit bi so it would be ok. For us play stops immediately and the mood is lost. That is something that worries me if and when we meet bi guys." Fortunately 95% are decent and respectful. It's the loony 5% who don't believe there are any purely straight guys that spoil it for the rest. As a bi woman, I just don't get it. I am perfectly capable of playing straight and wouldn't want to spoil an enjoyable swinging session by forcing myself on an unreceptive woman. | |||
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