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By *ue care and attention OP   Woman
over a year ago

birmingham

After viewing some fabbed pictures of a very attractive TV I noticed her verifications were from straight guys. The more I wove between profiles I found more guys with loads of friends and meets who are tvs but their profiles say they are straight.

Now, what confuses me is this: If a guy meets a guy for sex then he is generally gay or bi. If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

Now before the mob attack me for asking the question, it's pure curiosity and no offence intended to anyone so nothing to get on high horses about.

It would be interesting to understand this

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

"

The way we see it, most Bi / Gay guys claim to be straight because a) their frightened of rejection by disclosing their true sexuality or b) they believe they can get more meets claiming to be straight

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

The way we see it, most Bi / Gay guys claim to be straight because a) their frightened of rejection by disclosing their true sexuality or b) they believe they can get more meets claiming to be straight "

Or c) they may not be ready to face it themselves.

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By *ue care and attention OP   Woman
over a year ago

birmingham


"If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

The way we see it, most Bi / Gay guys claim to be straight because a) their frightened of rejection by disclosing their true sexuality or b) they believe they can get more meets claiming to be straight "

Yes I've heard that before and could understand it if they didn't have loads of tvs in their friends and verifications?

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"could understand it if they didn't have loads of tvs in their friends and verifications? "

Most have verifications to “prove” their genuine / have met.

I'm sure they think having a very differentiates them from the rest of the crowd, irrespective who the veri is from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without wanting to sound rude, why is there such a need to classify oneself as straight or not, surely if they were trying to hide what they do they wouldnt leave veris for all to see. just my tuppence worth.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

When it comes to giving a straight guy a mind fuck, no one can do it like an experienced TGirl can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When it comes to giving a straight guy a mind fuck, no one can do it like an experienced TGirl can.

"

Why is that? - I'm not being funny, I genuinely want to know what the difference is? I've had girls lick and finger me, but some of the guys I've met have been better..

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County


"If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

The way we see it, most Bi / Gay guys claim to be straight because a) their frightened of rejection by disclosing their true sexuality or b) they believe they can get more meets claiming to be straight "

Yes I agree with you. I admit to being Bi, but get quite a few messages from 'straight guy's' asking to meet me. They will admit to me in messages that they are Bi but will not put it on their profiel.

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By *ue care and attention OP   Woman
over a year ago

birmingham


"Without wanting to sound rude, why is there such a need to classify oneself as straight or not, surely if they were trying to hide what they do they wouldnt leave veris for all to see. just my tuppence worth."

You need to re read my question. I'm asking if a man considers himself straight if he fucks a tv as he sees it as fucking a woman. There really is nothing sinister is asking a question. Don't read into it.

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By *olfcartweaselCouple
over a year ago

Melrose

Anthropologically, TV/TS is a "straight" fetish. You'll find all the TV/TS porn on straight porn sites, not on gay porn sites.

Is it a gateway drug to more hardcore cock play? Perhaps. But odd as it may sound, even outside this site, many TV/TS fans see themselves as straight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Delusion is a lovely thing

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By *ue care and attention OP   Woman
over a year ago

birmingham


"Anthropologically, TV/TS is a "straight" fetish. You'll find all the TV/TS porn on straight porn sites, not on gay porn sites.

Is it a gateway drug to more hardcore cock play? Perhaps. But odd as it may sound, even outside this site, many TV/TS fans see themselves as straight."

Thank you. I can understand that. Equally, I have gay guy friends who would never touch a tv/cd. They like their men to be fit and toned he men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without wanting to sound rude, why is there such a need to classify oneself as straight or not, surely if they were trying to hide what they do they wouldnt leave veris for all to see. just my tuppence worth.

You need to re read my question. I'm asking if a man considers himself straight if he fucks a tv as he sees it as fucking a woman. There really is nothing sinister is asking a question. Don't read into it. "

I apologise if I come across as accusing was not my intention , I was asking a question in general as it really seems to bother a lot of people on here what sexual orientation people have on their profile, I didn't think there was anything sinister at all in your post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anthropologically, TV/TS is a "straight" fetish. You'll find all the TV/TS porn on straight porn sites, not on gay porn sites.

Is it a gateway drug to more hardcore cock play? Perhaps. But odd as it may sound, even outside this site, many TV/TS fans see themselves as straight."

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By *ue care and attention OP   Woman
over a year ago

birmingham


"Without wanting to sound rude, why is there such a need to classify oneself as straight or not, surely if they were trying to hide what they do they wouldnt leave veris for all to see. just my tuppence worth.

You need to re read my question. I'm asking if a man considers himself straight if he fucks a tv as he sees it as fucking a woman. There really is nothing sinister is asking a question. Don't read into it. I apologise if I come across as accusing was not my intention , I was asking a question in general as it really seems to bother a lot of people on here what sexual orientation people have on their profile, I didn't think there was anything sinister at all in your post "

No sweat. I'm a people observer and love to know how people think.

Many of my best friends are gay or bi. I'm not fussed at all. Variety is the spice of life

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By *mileyBWoman
over a year ago

Northwood

Who knows about the psycho-social and emotional reasoning for this... I'm sure each person has their own reasons. Personally i don't think it's necessary to slot everyone into boxes and catagories .... We're untidy us humans and we cover many descriptions, whims and passing phases.

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By *aster of a mindCouple
over a year ago

York

It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

lots of guys see a blow job off a guy in a frock as ok

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By *ue care and attention OP   Woman
over a year ago

birmingham


"It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad "

Interesting comment. A guy who has sex with a tv may not class himself as bi. Do you stipulate you will not meet guys who have sex with other guys? Mind you, then they guys that are only orally bi will think this excludes them.

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By *aster of a mindCouple
over a year ago

York


"lots of guys see a blow job off a guy in a frock as ok "

Lots of guys see a BJ off another guy who isn't in a frock as OK!! is there really such a thing as Orally Bi? If you et another man pleasure you or you pleasure another man, then you are Bi in my book....good luck to you and I hope you get all the sex you want.....But please don't contact me!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After viewing some fabbed pictures of a very attractive TV I noticed her verifications were from straight guys. The more I wove between profiles I found more guys with loads of friends and meets who are tvs but their profiles say they are straight.

Now, what confuses me is this: If a guy meets a guy for sex then he is generally gay or bi. If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

Now before the mob attack me for asking the question, it's pure curiosity and no offence intended to anyone so nothing to get on high horses about.

It would be interesting to understand this "

It because they are in that well-known river waterway in Egypt. Denial.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who knows about the psycho-social and emotional reasoning for this... I'm sure each person has their own reasons. Personally i don't think it's necessary to slot everyone into boxes and catagories .... We're untidy us humans and we cover many descriptions, whims and passing phases. "
I couldn't agree more with this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad "

The thing is though, you only know they are straight from what they say on their profile and what their verifications say.A lot of people only tell you what they want you to know, you could be playing with a guy who is bi but just doesnt broadcast it.

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian


"It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad

The thing is though, you only know they are straight from what they say on their profile and what their verifications say.A lot of people only tell you what they want you to know, you could be playing with a guy who is bi but just doesnt broadcast it."

Thats why we spend some time chatting 1st + soon find out about their curiosity!Many are on this site as straight but Bi on the Fetish site:another way for us to find out!In Clubs:my hubbys/Masters fit,athletic body draws looks from Bi/curious men or attempts to touch in a groupsituation,easy to spot.Again chatting in social areas.We are kinksters as well as swingers + are respectfull to everyones lifestyle choices,and ppl know from just chatting to us that we are indeed openminded and therefor tell us about their kinks.We are honest and just expect the same from others!

(susie)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad "

I agree. We had a bi party last night. Running up to it we had far more many messages from "straight" guys than guys willing to put on their profile what they are. Mostly I deleted messages, but the few I quizzed came back with I am bi / curious but I put straight because :

- I only like to wank and suck cock

- Putting bi on my profile puts some couples off

We don't play with these guys. If they're not comfortable with who they are, they're not for us, and certainly shouldn't be lying to other people who don't want to meet bi's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then there is the debate of pre op and post op tgirls..

So what I'm getting from this site is a tgirl likes to class herself straight when sleeping with a guy and noone has jumped on that band wagon, yet the guy who sleeps with her has to be bi.. How odd..

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I've got bi on my profile and consider myself bisexual. However, although I've fucked a guy before, I won't receive anal. I don't fancy guys I see in the street, but am quite happy in an mmf doing other things kissing, wanking, sucking etc and being totally sexual with the guy as I am with the lady. I prefer ladies though....what does that make me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've got bi on my profile and consider myself bisexual. However, although I've fucked a guy before, I won't receive anal. I don't fancy guys I see in the street, but am quite happy in an mmf doing other things kissing, wanking, sucking etc and being totally sexual with the guy as I am with the lady. I prefer ladies though....what does that make me? "

Bi, when did you say you were next in the area?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Then there is the debate of pre op and post op tgirls..

So what I'm getting from this site is a tgirl likes to class herself straight when sleeping with a guy and noone has jumped on that band wagon, yet the guy who sleeps with her has to be bi.. How odd.."

Lol yes good one. If the guy puts a frock on, he can then be straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've got bi on my profile and consider myself bisexual. However, although I've fucked a guy before, I won't receive anal. I don't fancy guys I see in the street, but am quite happy in an mmf doing other things kissing, wanking, sucking etc and being totally sexual with the guy as I am with the lady. I prefer ladies though....what does that make me? "

Hot, hot, hot - would love to meet you!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

If I'm available I'll let people know in good time...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anthropologically, TV/TS is a "straight" fetish. You'll find all the TV/TS porn on straight porn sites, not on gay porn sites.

Is it a gateway drug to more hardcore cock play? Perhaps. But odd as it may sound, even outside this site, many TV/TS fans see themselves as straight."

and alot of the gay scene and lesbians dont like the Tv/ts scene its mostly straight or bi men that do

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian


"It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad

I agree. We had a bi party last night. Running up to it we had far more many messages from "straight" guys than guys willing to put on their profile what they are. Mostly I deleted messages, but the few I quizzed came back with I am bi / curious but I put straight because :

- I only like to wank and suck cock

- Putting bi on my profile puts some couples off

We don't play with these guys. If they're not comfortable with who they are, they're not for us, and certainly shouldn't be lying to other people who don't want to meet bi's. "

thank you excactly what we think.Enjoy your future Bi partys with honest guys XX

(susie)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It bothers me what sexual orientation people put on their profile. We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

There is enough of all sexual orientations on this site, so why lie...It drives me mad

I agree. We had a bi party last night. Running up to it we had far more many messages from "straight" guys than guys willing to put on their profile what they are. Mostly I deleted messages, but the few I quizzed came back with I am bi / curious but I put straight because :

- I only like to wank and suck cock

- Putting bi on my profile puts some couples off

We don't play with these guys. If they're not comfortable with who they are, they're not for us, and certainly shouldn't be lying to other people who don't want to meet bi's.

thank you excactly what we think.Enjoy your future Bi partys with honest guys XX

(susie)"

I guess having been there myself a few years back I can see why guys are cagey sometimes about being open.

But it's certainly never affected my life on here having curious as my status and being open in my profile content.

As to the OP's original question - some people will choose their status to hedge their bets - but listing yourself as straight and then seeking/having veri's from single men and TV's is only going to confuse/piss off others - so personally I don't think they're doing themselves any favours.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

"

If a guy claims to be Bi / Gay on his profile you can be 99.9% he is, however, when a Guy claims to be straight, are you really sure he is?

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian


"We will only play with straight guys, so if they are Bi but pretend to be straight, that bothers me A LOT!!

If a guy claims to be Bi / Gay on his profile you can be 99.9% he is, however, when a Guy claims to be straight, are you really sure he is? "

answer is posted via his slave:Dansusie a few posts above.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"answer is posted via his slave:Dansusie a few posts above."

Well done on doing your research

however, human nature being what it is, people can be as deceiving as they like, the many threads on this site will testify to that

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian


"answer is posted via his slave:Dansusie a few posts above.

Well done on doing your research

however, human nature being what it is, people can be as deceiving as they like, the many threads on this site will testify to that "

You right,thats were the "Notes" tab comes in handy!Some out themselfes in the Forums.

Good Luck for your 3sum tonight,enjoy

(susie)

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool


"After viewing some fabbed pictures of a very attractive TV I noticed her verifications were from straight guys. The more I wove between profiles I found more guys with loads of friends and meets who are tvs but their profiles say they are straight.

Now, what confuses me is this: If a guy meets a guy for sex then he is generally gay or bi. If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

Now before the mob attack me for asking the question, it's pure curiosity and no offence intended to anyone so nothing to get on high horses about.

It would be interesting to understand this "

In my humble opinion, I would say yes, he would see himself as straight. Some TV's are stunning, and make totally convincing women. Sex, I presume would be had whilst partially dressed, and in a position that suits both, the guy giving would be having the exact same sensation as he would from having sex with a 'woman'.

In his mind he is having sex with a beautiful, sexy, lipstick & perfume woman.....

Therfore - he is straight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After viewing some fabbed pictures of a very attractive TV I noticed her verifications were from straight guys. The more I wove between profiles I found more guys with loads of friends and meets who are tvs but their profiles say they are straight.

Now, what confuses me is this: If a guy meets a guy for sex then he is generally gay or bi. If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

Now before the mob attack me for asking the question, it's pure curiosity and no offence intended to anyone so nothing to get on high horses about.

It would be interesting to understand this

In my humble opinion, I would say yes, he would see himself as straight. Some TV's are stunning, and make totally convincing women. Sex, I presume would be had whilst partially dressed, and in a position that suits both, the guy giving would be having the exact same sensation as he would from having sex with a 'woman'.

In his mind he is having sex with a beautiful, sexy, lipstick & perfume woman.....

Therfore - he is straight.

"

How can you say he would have the exact same sensation?! That to me sounds absolutely ridiculous.. Don't mean to be rude, but really!!???

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

ok, ill be crude....... cock goes into hole, sensation is same for cock, no matter which body the hole belongs to. ( apologies for bluntness)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now, what confuses me is this: If a guy meets a guy for sex then he is generally gay or bi. If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?"

My simplistic view is if a guy meets guys ONLY for sex then he is considered gay

If the guys meets both male and female for sex then he is considered bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ok, ill be crude....... cock goes into hole, sensation is same for cock, no matter which body the hole belongs to. ( apologies for bluntness)

"

I don't think many straight men would agree with you there.. Or even bi/gay!!?

My gay brother certainly wouldn't..

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

I guess we all have an angle on this, but the reality is that people can label themselves whatever they want to be.

Meeting someone who describes themself as straight is no guarantee he hasnt dabbled at some point.

why worry, just enjoy.

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes i have also experienced quite a few messages from straight guys, and when i have replied saying i thought that they were straight ,so why contact me, they tend to reply that they want to " experience " 1 to 1 with a man.

They might have just as well said they were Bi.

When you question them more it would appear that they want the complete thing ie oral and anal.So much for straight!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had a lady at a party say to me she wanted to go down on me whilst a male friends was doing the honours.. When I said no, she told me to close my eyes and I wouldn't know the difference.

The point of this thread to me, is respecting people's sexual preferences. There are enough people on here to not have to lie about what you want and who you are.. I have zero respect or tolerance for anyone who contacts me whose profile is false in areas. And the truth always tends to show its face at some point!

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

The OP asked for opinions, I gave mine on bi guys. Not gay guys.

Im sure even your gay brother has opinions on bi guys.

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool


"I had a lady at a party say to me she wanted to go down on me whilst a male friends was doing the honours.. When I said no, she told me to close my eyes and I wouldn't know the difference.

The point of this thread to me, is respecting people's sexual preferences. There are enough people on here to not have to lie about what you want and who you are.. I have zero respect or tolerance for anyone who contacts me whose profile is false in areas. And the truth always tends to show its face at some point! "

I totally agree with you and in an ideal world that would be fantastic, but we have to accept that because of some peoples prejudice, people hide things.

The woman who said that to you was wrong, you are straight, she should of respected that.

But, on the whole I think most people are truthful with most things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm actually bi-curious.. But either way, no means no

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


" If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

"

If a guy sucks a cock or enjoys anal with another guy then surely he is bi...not 'orally bi'.Bi...B.I...bi!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its sad the taboo against bi men.

I've never seen a guy say he will only meet straight woman..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If a guy meets a tv, does he class him self as straight because in his mind he is meeting a female?

If a guy sucks a cock or enjoys anal with another guy then surely he is bi...not 'orally bi'.Bi...B.I...bi! "

So one sexual act with another man makes them bi

Isn't voyerism a sexual act?

Just a thought

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By *ue care and attention OP   Woman
over a year ago

birmingham

Strange how the thread changes from the original question. I wasn't having a go at straight, bi or gay men, nor women come to that. Shall we put this one to rest now.

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool


"Strange how the thread changes from the original question. I wasn't having a go at straight, bi or gay men, nor women come to that. Shall we put this one to rest now. "

Agree, I totally understood the q and tried to answer with my opinion. Guess we will just have to stay confused lol

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