FabSwingers.com forum: % of profiles fake

By *rGen OP Man
over a year ago

Bingley

I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Stright and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

My couples profile has been verified twice at the start but then he wasn't sure... so we hid it for 2 years... now he's more sure.. it's active again.. but looks like a fake one lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For many red flags, there can be an actual valid reason.

For the example you used, some years ago, I was pointed in this direction after meeting through other means, and so we were verified the very same day.

We went on to meet more through this site, so takes us out of the equation of your example.

There are though, some that have joined similarly, say through meeting at a club or party, joined here as a recommendation, but carried on the way they know, say through clubs.

They could also be fake, and wrongfully verified.

It can be difficult at times, but often it very quickly becomes clear to which it is.

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Stright and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?"

At a guess about 50%.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Straight and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?"

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

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By *eyeYCouple
over a year ago

Nr Leicester

Personally we would fully support a more vigorous validation process, as with some other site's. However that would require greater cost, as with other site's

With us currently 'physical' absence we accept Fab for what it is, as and when we return this site won't be our focus.

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

Hmmmm I would say the percentage is particularly high with the free accounts

But recently I have found a lot of couple accounts with veto’s and photo verified are now manned solely buy the now single male

Perhaps a yearly photo veri might be a good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My profile is 100% real. At least to the extent of my knowledge.

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By *inkyropecoupleCouple
over a year ago

carluke

"Hmmmm I would say the percentage is particularly high with the free accounts

But recently I have found a lot of couple accounts with veto’s and photo verified are now manned solely buy the now single male

Perhaps a yearly photo veri might be a good idea

Yearly photo veri is a good shout

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By *ack 500Man
over a year ago

stafford

Sick of second guessing if I’m actually speaking to a man

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"Personally we would fully support a more vigorous validation process, as with some other site's. However that would require greater cost, as with other site's

With us currently 'physical' absence we accept Fab for what it is, as and when we return this site won't be our focus. "

like 2fa or providing id?

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By *ams12345Man
over a year ago

london

there are too many fakes on here now days. u have to even watch out for the verified ones. I’ve come across loads of fakes using amateur pics from other places.

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By *ouple-perthCouple
over a year ago

Perth

"there are too many fakes on here now days. u have to even watch out for the verified ones. I’ve come across loads of fakes using amateur pics from other places. "

True, we have reported 4 now, all removed.

People are unaware you can search Google with a picture, it will then tell you where that picture came from if fake, a picture from a fab account shouldn't be coming up on random sites around the web. A genuine picture should have no results on Google.

You can report the user using the link from the google search result

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By *irtygirl11Couple
over a year ago

East Cheshire

We would say 60 to 70% are either fakes or dreamers. It is a nightmare trying to find GENUINE single males for a meet.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

[Removed by poster at 30/06/23 16:44:32]

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

At a rough guess the word fake is used 100 times a day on the forums so if we assume a lot of those claims are based on sour grapes, naivety and/or fanny blindness I'll go with 10% are genuinely fake.

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By *iredhandMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Difficult to put a figure on it as some fakes are better than others. Even site supporter status doesn’t prove anything any more just that some fakes are prepared to pay what is a relatively small amount. Perhaps if they had to pay 12 months up front it might deter some of them. As it stands, for £5 you can waste people’s time for a couple of months if that’s the way you get your kicks.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

I'm not sure it sorts the fakes as much as people often say. Neither Alice or I would do a phone chat before meeting in person. And I know that quite a few others feel the same.

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By *rigbyMan
over a year ago

Skelmersdale

Reading my profile it says o can't accommodate, because I can't due to personal reasons.. not that I'm going behind anyone's back.

I also describe myself as discrete, which I am...who wants a loud couldn't care less person showing up at your door!

Yet both of those I'm told raise red flags with the quite a few of whom I've contacted

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

I've checked in the mirror and I seem to be real, at least I look like my pics - could be a body double I suppose or one of those holographic film transfers placed over the mirror to fool me into thinking I'm real

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not so much the fakes that bother us.

They’re easy enough to spot when you’re only looking for single guys.

It’s the amount of wank fantasists and guys with no real intention of ever meeting (even though they think they will) that are a problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dunno. I’ve had no veris although I am face verified. I would think it’s relatively easy to find out if someone is genuine. Set up a cam session or better still, organise a costa/Starbucks coffee meet. Would that not work out?

Also, most profiles will either give a warm fuzzy feeling or a red flag feeling. I did a “man” search in my area the other day to get an idea what makes a successful profile and the amount of dross that showed up…either dreamers, attached guys or this “just looking to get their hole”. But there are red flags for the women/couples too…not in the same way though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Stright and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?

At a guess about 50%."

80/20.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Straight and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

Best write and pointer for this whole year so fat tbh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hmmmm I would say the percentage is particularly high with the free accounts

But recently I have found a lot of couple accounts with veto’s and photo verified are now manned solely buy the now single male

Perhaps a yearly photo veri might be a good idea

Yearly photo veri is a good shout

6 montly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We would say 60 to 70% are either fakes or dreamers. It is a nightmare trying to find GENUINE single males for a meet."

All the above and more.

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By *oriarty99Man
over a year ago

London

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Stright and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?"

Quite a large portion, plus all these online money makers (OF) who sell their services rather than meet.

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By *otally BenettonCouple
over a year ago

shropshire

We’ve been on for over a year - joined during Covid, which was obviously a daft thing to do. However, our main issue is that we can only meet during the daytime so it’s difficult to find compatible people to play with. It’s not easy to get a reasonable amount of veris so people tend to be suspicious. This is totally understandable especially as there are so many fakes. I got chatting to a catfish on a different site today and I just don’t get what they get out of it.

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By *abriellajackCouple
over a year ago

Newport

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Straight and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

Not necessarily. We would never give out our phone numbers on here and would imagine that's the same for lots of people.

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By *adyinred696969Couple
over a year ago

Brecon

"there are too many fakes on here now days. u have to even watch out for the verified ones. I’ve come across loads of fakes using amateur pics from other places.

True, we have reported 4 now, all removed.

You can report the user using the link from the google search result"

Some of our pics on our profile are on other sites too, does that mean we are fake?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

High enough to get regular messages from apparent couples only to find the female 1/2 is busy,working,sleeping or walking the dog

Boring and nothing but wasting their own time

Verminous creatures

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By *hantelle-La-SlutTV/TS
over a year ago

South Birmingham

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

I have never had a chat (and won't, as i won't disclose my phone number until i have met someone) and yet i am not fake and have the verif to prove it.

It can help but not guaranteed. as some one else mentioned i am more annoyed by dreamers and wanker that talk abotu a meet but will never ever show up. Getting very easy to spot those as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We keep having the same guy try to get a friend request he's Been a couple 3 times then a single female never verifed lies about getting it done. We know its home by the way he talks. Even pretend he was friends with one of our verifications.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

I'm real, i still get accused of being fake. So frustrating

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By *ifeforelivingMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Real single bi male here it's hard enough trying to get a meet. Without all the fakes around Jesus it's hard ro get a reply to messages even

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm real, i still get accused of being fake. So frustrating "

Is it what you write,the vibe you send out!!

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

"I'm real, i still get accused of being fake. So frustrating

Is it what you write,the vibe you send out!!"

Definitely not. It's ignorant people assumption about me

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

"I'm real, i still get accused of being fake. So frustrating

Is it what you write,the vibe you send out!!"

I talk very plainly to people when i initially meet them. If i was a man and a woman instantly talk full on sexy chat, i would be more concerned about them being a fake. This business about what you put out is what you receive is rather narcissistic reaction to it must be the woman's fault if things don't go right...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Stright and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?"

are singles folk who are not single fake if there meeting as a single person. for example some couples on here have singles profiles for when they meet separately. in addition for married men/women if there meeting singularly then its not a fake profile to advertise as a single if they genuinely meet that way?

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By *umagain58Man
over a year ago

London

Don’t know on percentage but lots don’t do what they say will. Also gone to meets and wife unwell and just guy. Wish would be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We keep having the same guy try to get a friend request he's Been a couple 3 times then a single female never verified lies about getting it done. We know its home by the way he talks. Even pretend he was friends with one of our verifications. "

weve had an ex try setting us up on here before as multiple sexes and formats

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By *ixenandhoundCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth, South west

The one that makes me think jts a fake profile is when there's a few verifications but when you look at the profiles every one is a blocked profile... it seems odd to have 5 or 6 veris and every one of them has a blocked profile...

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By *orFukMan
over a year ago

Kings Lynn

It’s interesting to find this out, as I’m new to this site, and from this thread it doesn’t sound like much is going to happen

If you can’t get verified then I guess you’re not going to get meets so a cycle of disappointment perhaps.

I was so set on some filthly tingling times..

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.

Id guess 40% are fake over all (women, men, cpls profiles)

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By *unnyandDi68Couple
over a year ago

LEIGH

Having read through the messages, it seems that so many people are convinced that a very large proportion are fakes, that they end up losing genuine people.

We are a couple (Maybe)

I the male does all the searching and initial chat to out the ones that are of no interest. I don't even tell Di til we have possibles.

Yes, i would say no to phone chat early on but maybe yes after a decent text chat.

Verifications? So many are

Yes we met them in a club. Didn't play! Oh that's useful!!

We spent best part of a year playing with one couple. We only had 1 verification from them.

We have played with several couples more than once but only have 1 veri. from them.

Veris are mostly pointless but with some useful ones. We met for a coffee? Wow!!

A 1 year Fab photo verify? Maybe

But I think it is better to be positive and chat before discarding.

We certainly haven't played with everyone that i/we have chatted to for various reasons but we have also been surprised by real genuine couples who don't want to put many photos or have long descriptions or only chatted to the male or.......

Have faith.

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By *mfguy123Man
over a year ago

East Sussex

I think any female or couples profile who reply almost straight away are fake. Also, ones who get straight into filthy talk are also usually fake.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

I have never had a chat (and won't, as i won't disclose my phone number until i have met someone) and yet i am not fake and have the verif to prove it.

It can help but not guaranteed. as some one else mentioned i am more annoyed by dreamers and wanker that talk abotu a meet but will never ever show up. Getting very easy to spot those as well.

I always offer my phone number, so the other person can call me number withheld. If I sound like a nutter, they just hang up, and move on. What do they have to lose? The fact it outs them as a fake?

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By *LIVEANDKICKING100Man
over a year ago

DUBLIN

I estimate 25%.

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By *eyeYCouple
over a year ago

Nr Leicester

A thought.. you can search by verified, would a verified in the last (insert preferred time period) be an idea? Obviously some take an extended break, but..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say at least 50% of couples are just men.

I would say at least 80% of men are not single.

I would say at least 70% of women have no intentions of meeting anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's far too many fake profiles on here x i would say about 60% x

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By *edHeelsCplCouple
over a year ago

Kenilworth

I think there has been an influx of couples trying to sell content on other platforms. One Manchester couple was on cam and were offering videos for sale through Whatsapp.

I also think a lot of the newer female accounts seem to just be here to advertise their OnlyFans accounts. Or good old payment for services rendered.

It’s a shame but i suppose sex sells and £5 is £5 to FAB. Ho-hum

Anyone else tripped over these a/c’s or been offer things?

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

taunton somerset

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

ive been swinging 30 + years been on fab forever ive never given my number out and i never will and i know lots of couples on the scene who also follow this rule so it would be calling alot of real swingers fake ... i dont do phone cam email apps i do all via fab or other sites im on the tools are there for it to work and work well

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

taunton somerset

"I would say at least 50% of couples are just men.

I would say at least 80% of men are not single.

I would say at least 70% of women have no intentions of meeting anyone. "

i agree lucky they are normally easy to spot

id also add 75% of men are here to wank cams pics n vids and have zero intentions of meeting just online attention and wank ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder what the numbers are?

Either men (Stright and Gay) pretending to be a couple or woman.

The amount of couple profiles who have one verification posted the same time as the account has been active but no new ones since.

Single folk who are not single etc.

Any thoughts?"

Loads of them...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would say at least 50% of couples are just men.

I would say at least 80% of men are not single.

I would say at least 70% of women have no intentions of meeting anyone. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would say at least 50% of couples are just men.

I would say at least 80% of men are not single.

I would say at least 70% of women have no intentions of meeting anyone.

I am probably being conservative with my numbers.

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By *eardedman7Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

Real over here

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

Prob at least 3/4 of single female profiles

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By *eardedman7Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

"Prob at least 3/4 of single female profiles

Prob right

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By *ungle_kingMan
over a year ago

Nuneaton

I personally think every profile should be photo verified and at least every 6 months redone as personal circumstances change.

The amount of profiles I see that have miraculously got 1 verification hidden is crazy, you get the weirdo’s who make multiple accounts and verify themselves to make it look like they have meets. It’s full of fantasists who have no intention to meet you get off on the chase and the sooner the new platform is up and running the better personally.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

"Hmmmm I would say the percentage is particularly high with the free accounts

But recently I have found a lot of couple accounts with veto’s and photo verified are now manned solely buy the now single male

Perhaps a yearly photo veri might be a good idea

Yearly photo veri is a good shout

6 montly! "

Over 30,000 people online now...I bet admin would relish the work.

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By *ungle_kingMan
over a year ago

Nuneaton

Maybe just paid subscription only then as there is no quick fix as the free option has definitely helped create this issue. I just only really converse with recently multi verified accounts.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

As I said above; I give them my number, and offer them to call me number withheld.

I’ve never asked for their number upfront, even though many people use a second phone for swinging, or a pay as you go sim.

What works for one, doesn’t necessarily work for another, but as a ‘next step’ to a meet, hearing someone’s voice definitely proves they’re genuine, and it’s a great ice-breaker before that nervous, first-time meet face to face. It’s worked well for me anyway

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"Maybe just paid subscription only then as there is no quick fix as the free option has definitely helped create this issue. I just only really converse with recently multi verified accounts. "

Absolutely this! It would clear out a ton of fakes, scammers, multiple profile runners etc, overnight. I’ve said this for years!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe just paid subscription only then as there is no quick fix as the free option has definitely helped create this issue. I just only really converse with recently multi verified accounts.

Absolutely this! It would clear out a ton of fakes, scammers, multiple profile runners etc, overnight. I’ve said this for years!

So how much would you say, by way of a subscription, deter those itinerant fake fabbers ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would say at least 50% of couples are just men.

I would say at least 80% of men are not single.

I would say at least 70% of women have no intentions of meeting anyone. "

Putting those stats into a geometrical and arithmetical number progression it leave just me and thee left on the site?

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Offer them phone chat. Sorts the genuine from the fakes very quickly

As I said above; I give them my number, and offer them to call me number withheld.

I’ve never asked for their number upfront, even though many people use a second phone for swinging, or a pay as you go sim.

I don't share numbers with anyone I haven't met. There are probably 3 people currently on the site who have my number and only one of those that I'm in regular contact with.

I've yet to speak to a woman here who is comfortable with a video chat which is fine because neither am I and as such have never done it.

As you say it might work for you but I've been here 7 years and never had a no show or engaged with a fake profile so I'll continue to not share numbers or pics.

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By *arah_tv999TV/TS
over a year ago

Oxford

"there are too many fakes on here now days. u have to even watch out for the verified ones. I’ve come across loads of fakes using amateur pics from other places.

True, we have reported 4 now, all removed.

You can report the user using the link from the google search result

Some of our pics on our profile are on other sites too, does that mean we are fake?

Same here

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By *hantelle-La-SlutTV/TS
over a year ago

South Birmingham

"I would say at least 50% of couples are just men.

I would say at least 80% of men are not single.

I would say at least 70% of women have no intentions of meeting anyone.

not being single (men and woman) doesn't make the profile fake, thier life choice who has nothing to do with you.

Men pretending to be a female or couple then yes that is fake.

And you are right a lot of women are only on here to either tease or gain from the site promoting OF and the such a like and will never ever meet.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

"I would say at least 50% of couples are just men.

I would say at least 80% of men are not single.

I would say at least 70% of women have no intentions of meeting anyone.

not being single (men and woman) doesn't make the profile fake, thier life choice who has nothing to do with you.

Men pretending to be a female or couple then yes that is fake.

And you are right a lot of women are only on here to either tease or gain from the site promoting OF and the such a like and will never ever meet."

I'm definitely genuine, i want hot kinky sex but there's very few men on i feel comfortable meeting. Some people think i got a fake ACC without really looking at my profile. If you did, it's unlikely to be a fake

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By *StepsAheadMan
over a year ago

Lancs

Im fake

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

It rather depends on your definition of fake.

Fake, as in not exactly what they portray... quite a lot ... not the age they display for example.

Fake as in single man rather than a couple or single lady, not that high, and usually easy to spot.

In my opinion, those who are regularly getting disappointed by fake profiles, need to rethink their selection criteria and not get drawn into sex chat.

Nita

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By *mandamark99Couple
over a year ago

Bridgnorth

"Hmmmm I would say the percentage is particularly high with the free accounts

But recently I have found a lot of couple accounts with veto’s and photo verified are now manned solely buy the now single male

Perhaps a yearly photo veri might be a good idea

Great idea

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