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By *ndymanchester1 OP   Man
over a year ago

salford

Is there any point?

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By *enguincoupleCouple
over a year ago

littlehampton

Yes!....horny as hell...less can be more.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"Is there any point? "

Of course. It that's what people prefer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes!....horny as hell...less can be more."

We do both but can't agree more, sometimes soft can be just as much fun

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By *coobyroo218Couple
over a year ago

Guernsey

We have done soft swap at a club abd it was still horny, the only thing we did not do was full penetrative sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We enjoy it.

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By *ndymanchester1 OP   Man
over a year ago

salford

Think I'd find it far to frustrating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting that a single man does not see the point!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is about as far as we will ever go we think so there is a point to us

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By *ndymanchester1 OP   Man
over a year ago

salford

I/we also have a cpls profile (andyjulienw) and we still feel the same, just to support much criticised single guys

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Is there any point? "

For those who like it, probably.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for some yes

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By *coobyroo218Couple
over a year ago

Guernsey

I think it all comes down to choices again.

Plus alot of people like the fact that if they are just starting out in the swing scene then this is the ideal way to start as it lets their partner/wife hubby see what its like to be with another if there is any doubt about how they might feel.

If you are hard core swap only then there is no point at all in meeting a soft swing couple, and probably why you see as no point

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By *ev and TrevCouple
over a year ago

cardiff


"Think I'd find it far to frustrating"

Have you never played with a partner without having sex then? No mutual masturbation, oral sex? Do you always need penetration for it not to be frustrating?

Admittedly soft swing isn't for everyone but don't knock it til you've tried it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It can be really erotic and fun yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I, the female in the relationship, am only interesting in soft swapping mainly because my other half fucks me so well I know I would be disappointed with someone else!

Love doing everything else with another guy and more than happy to watch OH fuck another girl. Turns me on knowing what a good time he is giving her.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We only do soft swap...it's not all about "fucking" or whatever you wanna call it, it's more about the sensual side and building up the excitement of watching each other then enjoying the end result together, we respect everyone has their own views and wants but for us penetrative sex with others is beyond our boundaries and we can get all the excitement without it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never viewed anyone elses preferences, whether they match mine or not, as pointless.

the very fact that so many couples prefer it suggest many don't see it as pointless.

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By *asperthedogCouple
over a year ago

midlands

as we've said before, soft swingers drown them all at birth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've never viewed anyone elses preferences, whether they match mine or not, as pointless.

the very fact that so many couples prefer it suggest many don't see it as pointless."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting that a single man does not see the point! "

Indeed! Was just thinking that actually from a single man's point of view soft swapping may be deemed pointless if ultimately he is looking for full sex! But then sometimes beggars can't be choosers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I, the female in the relationship, am only interesting in soft swapping mainly because my other half fucks me so well I know I would be disappointed with someone else!

Love doing everything else with another guy and more than happy to watch OH fuck another girl. Turns me on knowing what a good time he is giving her..... "

the old my partners the best one does my head in I'm afraid.Never in my life would I say one person will be a better fuck than another...

as for making love, or fucking in ur own time..am sure its out of this world..thats why ur together..

there is no need to prove loyalty,feelings etc...

never the best argument to give when in support of soft swing to be honest IMO

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Yes for those who enjoy it .....not for me though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I/we also have a cpls profile (andyjulienw) and we still feel the same, just to support much criticised single guys "

dunno why it became about single men not understanding anyway...there are LOTS of full swap cpls...who dont class softswappers as swingers at all

I'm not against softswing-oral play etc, I just wouldnt have it as my deadset label that its all I'd ever do swingwise...spontaneous events on a meet just make me happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not an argument just an opinion and my opinion at that which we are all entitled to

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

It's how WE play so it's not pointless to US ... or to the people we soft swing with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We didn't soft swing for quite a while and then at a club a few weeks ago we got together with a couple and only did soft swing and it was great - really horny!

So we have changed our opinion somewhat and are more than happy with soft or full. both can be great fun xx

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)"

Noted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)"

So are you saying that people shouldn't have choices?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)"

What do you mean by swing? What do you do/ not do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)"

Yet your profile expresses quite a few preferences? Or is it the "preferences are fine as long as they are mine or don't exclude me" rule?

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)

So are you saying that people shouldn't have choices? "

Seems that way ... looks like we MUST have penetrative sex or not bother at all.

Never mind the erotic, kinky group sessions, the oral, the bi action, the fun in the showers, the touchy feely action in the hot-tubs or swimming pool ... they don't count.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)

So are you saying that people shouldn't have choices?

Seems that way ... looks like we MUST have penetrative sex or not bother at all.

Never mind the erotic, kinky group sessions, the oral, the bi action, the fun in the showers, the touchy feely action in the hot-tubs or swimming pool ... they don't count."

We agree, soft swing can be fantastic - we do both and can't say we prefer one over the other, it's all great! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can enjoy yourself without the fucking rather do that part with my lovely wife xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)

So are you saying that people shouldn't have choices?

Seems that way ... looks like we MUST have penetrative sex or not bother at all.

Never mind the erotic, kinky group sessions, the oral, the bi action, the fun in the showers, the touchy feely action in the hot-tubs or swimming pool ... they don't count."

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"as we've said before, soft swingers drown them all at birth "

talk about harsh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I, the female in the relationship, am only interesting in soft swapping mainly because my other half fucks me so well I know I would be disappointed with someone else!

Love doing everything else with another guy and more than happy to watch OH fuck another girl. Turns me on knowing what a good time he is giving her..... "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks Saz! x

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


"Think I'd find it far to frustrating"

Dont do it then...

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


"we never understand soft swing there's no point at all if u going to swing then u swing (soft play loads of rubbish)"

Well we dont understand full or soft swing...but we would never say either or both were 'loads of rubbish'...its all what some people WANT to do..for reasons personal to them, and no one else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok so is there any point in soft swing ?

Of course there is , as so many posters have said on this thread but - and it's a big but , the reasoning behind it in some cases is a bit strange .

How can anyone say that's for my husband or wife ? So you can do everything else , but not that ? Hmmm ???

Or even more strange is the claim that he / she totally satisfies me with the fucking !!!

Does that suggest they don't fully satisfy everything else ???

So , in my opinion , soft swap is great - enjoy it ( we do occasionally ) and don't feel the need to defend your choices .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it when someone mentions soft swing everyone jumps in using the term soft swap..

Isn't there a difference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think soft swap is couples , and soft swing mmf or mff ?

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

I thought soft swap was a program that Noel Edmonds used to host on a Saturday morning?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think soft swap is couples , and soft swing mmf or mff ?"

When I've asked couples before who say they soft swing they say its when couples play with their own partners in the same room..

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham


"Why is it when someone mentions soft swing everyone jumps in using the term soft swap..

Isn't there a difference?"

We soft swing - we don't swap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it when someone mentions soft swing everyone jumps in using the term soft swap..

Isn't there a difference?

We soft swing - we don't swap."

So there is a difference?

Then I wander why people go on about soft swap then when the thread is about soft swing

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham


"Why is it when someone mentions soft swing everyone jumps in using the term soft swap..

Isn't there a difference?

We soft swing - we don't swap.

So there is a difference?

Then I wander why people go on about soft swap then when the thread is about soft swing "

My understanding is soft swap couples get together and swap for all sexual activities but swap back for actual penetration.

We indulge in soft swing - group activities, bi play etc but don't have penetrative sex with others.

We don't need to explain it or justify it ... it's just how we play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is something really bugging me about this!!!

And I state this is our opinion

Fucking as its so put between two people who do not love each other is ok...

But sex with someone your truly in love with is a altogether better experience, not only do you have the excitement of the intimacy you also have the emotional feelings to go with it, there comes a point when the novelty of sleeping with random people having meaningless sex wears off....to me Mr it's boring....

However we also feel watching two other people in love having meaningful sex is a massive turn on its so much better than watching two people who are sleeping together for the first time, there's a much better sexier flow.

Now as go soft swing I Mr have fully swapped before and had a fair few ffm and mmf experiences but I find the soft swing a much better and more enjoyable experience hours of oral fun followed by sex with the emotions as well as the excitement of the situation is mind blowing for us....

Those of you knocking soft swing......

Your reasons stand out a mile......

Your missing out!!

X

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By *imon and saffyCouple
over a year ago

southampton

Surely the best thing about our lifestyle is that we are open to everyone having freedom to indulge in whatever they want.

There are enough people who declare that anything associated with swinging is wrong without us doing it.

We soft swing and enjoy watching or being watched. If you don't like that then that's cool.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it when someone mentions soft swing everyone jumps in using the term soft swap..

Isn't there a difference?

We soft swing - we don't swap.

So there is a difference?

Then I wander why people go on about soft swap then when the thread is about soft swing

My understanding is soft swap couples get together and swap for all sexual activities but swap back for actual penetration.

We indulge in soft swing - group activities, bi play etc but don't have penetrative sex with others.

We don't need to explain it or justify it ... it's just how we play. "

Yh that's what soft swap is.. But the thread is about soft swing which involves no swapping and therefore irreleavnt to the OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is something really bugging me about this!!!

And I state this is our opinion

Fucking as its so put between two people who do not love each other is ok...

But sex with someone your truly in love with is a altogether better experience, not only do you have the excitement of the intimacy you also have the emotional feelings to go with it, there comes a point when the novelty of sleeping with random people having meaningless sex wears off....to me Mr it's boring....

However we also feel watching two other people in love having meaningful sex is a massive turn on its so much better than watching two people who are sleeping together for the first time, there's a much better sexier flow.

Now as go soft swing I Mr have fully swapped before and had a fair few ffm and mmf experiences but I find the soft swing a much better and more enjoyable experience hours of oral fun followed by sex with the emotions as well as the excitement of the situation is mind blowing for us....

Those of you knocking soft swing......

Your reasons stand out a mile......

Your missing out!!

X"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I may well buck the trend here but I prefer soft swing. its loads hornier than full swing because it leaves you wanting more. you cannot rule out going all the way but for me soft swing is what swinging is all about.

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By *j188Couple
over a year ago

aberdeenshire

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district


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Yh that's what soft swap is.. But the thread is about soft swing which involves no swapping and therefore irreleavnt to the OP"

In YOUR opinion, but not shared by most people we've soft swung with. Your definition is too rigid. Soft swinging involves swapping for everything apart from fucking - kissing, oral, touching, toy play, whatever. We have soft swing only friends and we started off soft-swinging in clubs until we felt ready to go all the way.

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

Doesnt really matter what the 'name' is, surely if you are not into full swap/swing then all boundaries should be clear and been discussed and agreed before playing, then no one oversteps the mark.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Yh that's what soft swap is.. But the thread is about soft swing which involves no swapping and therefore irreleavnt to the OP

In YOUR opinion, but not shared by most people we've soft swung with. Your definition is too rigid. Soft swinging involves swapping for everything apart from fucking - kissing, oral, touching, toy play, whatever. We have soft swing only friends and we started off soft-swinging in clubs until we felt ready to go all the way. "

As I VERY clearlyt stated.. This is what I had been told by others that soft swing doesn't involve swapping.. Thjats why in my first few posts I asked if there was a difference between soft swing and soft swap and was answered by more than one person that they were!

Maybe you should read the whole thread before getting at someone.. Sheesh

Maybe the answer here is to ask the OP exactly what he meant by soft swing.. Then we would all know what he thinks to be pointless??

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

We love it. It's all about the girls for me

Lins

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

When we soft swing with another couple we swap partners, otherwise it's just having sex in the same romm with another couple, which of course is good too if that's what you like! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have play both full swop and Soft Swing and got to say we enjoyed both, and there is certainly nothing at all wrong with people who want to only play Soft Swing, everyone has a choice , and if thats what makes them happy then who are we to argue.

Swinging is only fun as long as ALL people playing have fun, and at the end of the day, if you see a profile that only has Soft Swing, then jog on, there are plenty who will screw just about anything that has a pulse !.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there any point? "

depends on what you like

Personally i love the forplay, i love all the kissing and touching, the oral, the exploring each others body and i find men take far more time over doing that if there isnt a shag at the end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doesnt really matter what the 'name' is, surely if you are not into full swap/swing then all boundaries should be clear and been discussed and agreed before playing, then no one oversteps the mark."

Well put. For us soft swing is everything but penetration. We ensure that our perspective play mates are informed before hand what our mutual boundaries are.

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By *roovytwoCouple
over a year ago

burnley

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

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By *roovytwoCouple
over a year ago

burnley


"We have play both full swop and Soft Swing and got to say we enjoyed both, and there is certainly nothing at all wrong with people who want to only play Soft Swing, everyone has a choice , and if thats what makes them happy then who are we to argue.

Swinging is only fun as long as ALL people playing have fun, and at the end of the day, if you see a profile that only has Soft Swing, then jog on, there are plenty who will screw just about anything that has a pulse !."

Spot on...our thoughts and preferences to

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By *roovytwoCouple
over a year ago

burnley

Soft swing(no penetration)can be really erotic,sensuous and dirty given the right couples/singles.

We have had some really great soft swap meets and some reaaly great full swap meets....but sex to us doent revolve around the ultimate of pentrative sex but more the pleasure and sexy fun that likeminded swingers can enjoy as a 3 sum/4 sum or more sum!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Soft swing(no penetration)can be really erotic,sensuous and dirty given the right couples/singles.

We have had some really great soft swap meets and some reaaly great full swap meets....but sex to us doent revolve around the ultimate of pentrative sex but more the pleasure and sexy fun that likeminded swingers can enjoy as a 3 sum/4 sum or more sum!!! "

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic."

So let me get this right ... you think there so be NO boundaries whatsoever?

So if someone pisses on you mid way into your meet that's fine? Scat? No problem. Bondage? Whipping? Fine - because having personal preferences and boundaries is not sensual or erotic is it?

Get real!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic."

That's a very respectful comment to make !!!

Seriously

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

Soft swing? Whats the point, the sub ultiately needs multiple penetrations!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do feel there is a point for soft swinging, it is about indulging in what you yourself feel comfortable with.

When we started swinging we just had sex with each other in public rooms with others watching us. We still do this every time we go to a club.

We have indulged in soft swing for a long while, its great, very sensual.

Yes we have full swapped but its not a necessity at all meets, in fact we probably play with each other far more in clubs than we swing with others.

For me the exhibitionism is the pull and not just the sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there any point?

Of course. It that's what people prefer. "

Erm ,it seems what women prefer , im a woman and i cant stand the frustration of soft swing, i think its totally pointless an female orientated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Primarily soft is ok for newbies to get a "feel" but wev seen many many couples that are obviously fem orientated....just a suggestion but on the subject of comfortable, what about the people at a meet that prefer full swing?? Are they not considered??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think uv missed the point there lol, dont think the issue concerned degradance!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

So let me get this right ... you think there so be NO boundaries whatsoever?

So if someone pisses on you mid way into your meet that's fine? Scat? No problem. Bondage? Whipping? Fine - because having personal preferences and boundaries is not sensual or erotic is it?

Get real!"

Think uv missed the point there lol, dont think the issue concerned degradance!!

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By *ll-Knight-longMan
over a year ago

Derby/Notts(Long Eaton)


"Is there any point?

depends on what you like

Personally i love the forplay, i love all the kissing and touching, the oral, the exploring each others body and i find men take far more time over doing that if there isnt a shag at the end "

I love foreplay myself and often the "doing the deed" can be less stimulating for both my mind and body but I personally don't see foreplay as a lesser part of any swinging activity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Soft swing? Whats the point, the sub ultiMately needs multiple penetrations!"

Popped your M in for you lol....totally agree, soft swing is a "feel" thing for newbies.....not an excuse for women to get it all!!

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By *nfieldishCouple
over a year ago

Enfield

We don't mind a bit of horny soft......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't mind a bit of horny soft...... "

Nothing wrong in a bit of both, this thread has just reminded me why i dont come in here, its like Ophra, there will always be difference of opinion lmfao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is something really bugging me about this!!!

And I state this is our opinion

Fucking as its so put between two people who do not love each other is ok...

But sex with someone your truly in love with is a altogether better experience, not only do you have the excitement of the intimacy you also have the emotional feelings to go with it, there comes a point when the novelty of sleeping with random people having meaningless sex wears off....to me Mr it's boring....

However we also feel watching two other people in love having meaningful sex is a massive turn on its so much better than watching two people who are sleeping together for the first time, there's a much better sexier flow.

Now as go soft swing I Mr have fully swapped before and had a fair few ffm and mmf experiences but I find the soft swing a much better and more enjoyable experience hours of oral fun followed by sex with the emotions as well as the excitement of the situation is mind blowing for us....

Those of you knocking soft swing......

Your reasons stand out a mile......

Your missing out!!

X"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We love it. It's all about the girls for me

Lins"

MissD is in full agreement with Lins on this one. As long as all parties are in agreement with their boundaries then there shouldn't be a problem to soft swinging.

Everyone has the choice not to have sex random strangers. They certainly shouldn't feel prrssured just to "fit in" with the lifestyle.

If that's your thing then all good. Doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else.

A lot of people are comfortable with foreplay so live and let live.

Ok then how about Smoking? What's the point of it?

Answer - It's your choice to smoke it.

Junk Food? What's the point of it? Again, it's a choice you take to live your life.

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over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

So let me get this right ... you think there so be NO boundaries whatsoever?

So if someone pisses on you mid way into your meet that's fine? Scat? No problem. Bondage? Whipping? Fine - because having personal preferences and boundaries is not sensual or erotic is it?

Get real!"

Strangely I thought we were talking 'soft swing' on this thread not more extreme practices.

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over a year ago


"We only do soft swap...it's not all about "fucking" or whatever you wanna call it, it's more about the sensual side and building up the excitement of watching each other then enjoying the end result together, we respect everyone has their own views and wants but for us penetrative sex with others is beyond our boundaries and we can get all the excitement without it.

"

Well ....not all surely?

You can't get ALL of the excitement of penetrative sex if yer not having penetrative sex!?

To each their own and good luck but softs defo not for me, I think it can be more sensual and intimate and its not something I need to go outwith my relationship with my bf to look for.

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over a year ago


"Is there any point?

depends on what you like

Personally i love the forplay, i love all the kissing and touching, the oral, the exploring each others body and i find men take far more time over doing that if there isnt a shag at the end

I love foreplay myself and often the "doing the deed" can be less stimulating for both my mind and body but I personally don't see foreplay as a lesser part of any swinging activity"

Is there a chance that some folks that soft swing and only have penetrative sex with their own partners may just be a tad insecure about having sex and watching their partners having fun with another??

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over a year ago


"Is there any point?

depends on what you like

Personally i love the forplay, i love all the kissing and touching, the oral, the exploring each others body and i find men take far more time over doing that if there isnt a shag at the end

I love foreplay myself and often the "doing the deed" can be less stimulating for both my mind and body but I personally don't see foreplay as a lesser part of any swinging activity

Is there a chance that some folks that soft swing and only have penetrative sex with their own partners may just be a tad insecure about having sex and watching their partners having fun with another?? "

There is no doubt that for some people the thought may cause some jealousy and or insecurity so that's why they have boundaries also self confidence comes into it I'm sure for some, but those that do soft swing like ourselves all have their own reasons for it and for us we enjoy it and surely that's what swinging is all about

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By *ugartitsandhimCouple
over a year ago

North West

I would have to say the fact there is a full on debate about it says there is a point.

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By *weetcorruptionCouple
over a year ago

At home


"There is something really bugging me about this!!!

And I state this is our opinion

Fucking as its so put between two people who do not love each other is ok...

But sex with someone your truly in love with is a altogether better experience, not only do you have the excitement of the intimacy you also have the emotional feelings to go with it, there comes a point when the novelty of sleeping with random people having meaningless sex wears off....to me Mr it's boring....

However we also feel watching two other people in love having meaningful sex is a massive turn on its so much better than watching two people who are sleeping together for the first time, there's a much better sexier flow.

Now as go soft swing I Mr have fully swapped before and had a fair few ffm and mmf experiences but I find the soft swing a much better and more enjoyable experience hours of oral fun followed by sex with the emotions as well as the excitement of the situation is mind blowing for us....

Those of you knocking soft swing......

Your reasons stand out a mile......

Your missing out!!

X"

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic."

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules'

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over a year ago

I (MissD)have swung for over 10 years and never gone beyond soft swing/swap. I feel that it is unfair to say that soft swap is for newbies testing the water or because you have jealousy issues etc... Why cant it be that it is just what you like. We would never critisize a full swap couple and ask them why they want to sleep with other people, so why should soft swap couples have to defend there choices and relationships. Our way of swinging/playing is not of any less value then the next persons.

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham


"I (MissD)have swung for over 10 years and never gone beyond soft swing/swap. I feel that it is unfair to say that soft swap is for newbies testing the water or because you have jealousy issues etc... Why cant it be that it is just what you like. We would never critisize a full swap couple and ask them why they want to sleep with other people, so why should soft swap couples have to defend there choices and relationships. Our way of swinging/playing is not of any less value then the next persons."

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By *asperthedogCouple
over a year ago

midlands

those who say its not all about fucking, usually can't fuck, that's why its not important to them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it down to personal choice?? Again!!

And to say that those that don't full swap can't fuck is a bit of a strange thing to say!!

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over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules' "

So swinging isn't sensual and erotic?

And why isn't soft swing our interest, we are not duty bound to do either soft or anything else. But we can't think of anything less sexy than people saying you can do this but can't do that etc etc. And some people are very exacting over this, the comments above related to a true story we were told by another couple. Like it says on our profile some times we just play with each other, sometimes we soft play and sometimes we have sex but only if it feels right.

Seems a bit odd to totally deny yourself sex when this is all about sex. What exactly is the difference between someone giving you oral and engaging in penetration if that is what everyone wants? And for the record we actually rarely do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules'

So swinging isn't sensual and erotic?

And why isn't soft swing our interest, we are not duty bound to do either soft or anything else. But we can't think of anything less sexy than people saying you can do this but can't do that etc etc. And some people are very exacting over this, the comments above related to a true story we were told by another couple. Like it says on our profile some times we just play with each other, sometimes we soft play and sometimes we have sex but only if it feels right.

Seems a bit odd to totally deny yourself sex when this is all about sex. What exactly is the difference between someone giving you oral and engaging in penetration if that is what everyone wants? And for the record we actually rarely do that."

Dont think that by not having sex with someone else i am denying myself anything. Dont see why soft swing couples have to justify there decisions to full swap couples. If you dont see the difference between oral and penetration then why dont you soft swing. The answer is because there is a difference and just because something does not work for you does not mean that it doesnt work for others. I thought the world of swinging was open minded but it seems that since being on fabs i have come across more biased judgemental people then in any club i have been too.

Sorry for the rant but so fed up having to defend soft swing/swap to some full swap couples x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules'

So swinging isn't sensual and erotic?

And why isn't soft swing our interest, we are not duty bound to do either soft or anything else. But we can't think of anything less sexy than people saying you can do this but can't do that etc etc. And some people are very exacting over this, the comments above related to a true story we were told by another couple. Like it says on our profile some times we just play with each other, sometimes we soft play and sometimes we have sex but only if it feels right.

Seems a bit odd to totally deny yourself sex when this is all about sex. What exactly is the difference between someone giving you oral and engaging in penetration if that is what everyone wants? And for the record we actually rarely do that.

Dont think that by not having sex with someone else i am denying myself anything. Dont see why soft swing couples have to justify there decisions to full swap couples. If you dont see the difference between oral and penetration then why dont you soft swing. The answer is because there is a difference and just because something does not work for you does not mean that it doesnt work for others. I thought the world of swinging was open minded but it seems that since being on fabs i have come across more biased judgemental people then in any club i have been too.

Sorry for the rant but so fed up having to defend soft swing/swap to some full swap couples x"

We are open minded. We try everything.

I would love to read all the reasons why people would be happy to suck a cock yet not have that cock inserted elsewhere. I actually think oral is a more intimate act than fucking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules'

So swinging isn't sensual and erotic?

And why isn't soft swing our interest, we are not duty bound to do either soft or anything else. But we can't think of anything less sexy than people saying you can do this but can't do that etc etc. And some people are very exacting over this, the comments above related to a true story we were told by another couple. Like it says on our profile some times we just play with each other, sometimes we soft play and sometimes we have sex but only if it feels right.

Seems a bit odd to totally deny yourself sex when this is all about sex. What exactly is the difference between someone giving you oral and engaging in penetration if that is what everyone wants? And for the record we actually rarely do that.

Dont think that by not having sex with someone else i am denying myself anything. Dont see why soft swing couples have to justify there decisions to full swap couples. If you dont see the difference between oral and penetration then why dont you soft swing. The answer is because there is a difference and just because something does not work for you does not mean that it doesnt work for others. I thought the world of swinging was open minded but it seems that since being on fabs i have come across more biased judgemental people then in any club i have been too.

Sorry for the rant but so fed up having to defend soft swing/swap to some full swap couples x

We are open minded. We try everything.

I would love to read all the reasons why people would be happy to suck a cock yet not have that cock inserted elsewhere. I actually think oral is a more intimate act than fucking."

I actually dont indulge in any sexual act with men i am on here to have expieriances with other women as i am very bi and a bit of a voyeur as i like to see Silk with other women with/without taking part myself. These are the things we like and dont expect everyone else to enjoy or understand them but fed up of soft play being attacked by those on here who have full intercourse. I would never think of attacking the things full swap couples enjoy or there relationship based on personal preferences and think its unfair that soft couples have to defend thereselves all the time in the forums.

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over a year ago


"I (MissD)have swung for over 10 years and never gone beyond soft swing/swap. I feel that it is unfair to say that soft swap is for newbies testing the water or because you have jealousy issues etc... Why cant it be that it is just what you like. We would never critisize a full swap couple and ask them why they want to sleep with other people, so why should soft swap couples have to defend there choices and relationships. Our way of swinging/playing is not of any less value then the next persons."

I would never try to defend the way I do things- what's the point? If people don't understand, then I wouldn't play with them. What I want today will be different from what I want tomorrow. If people can't respect that... sheesh!

I don't like disrespectful people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules'

So swinging isn't sensual and erotic?

And why isn't soft swing our interest, we are not duty bound to do either soft or anything else. But we can't think of anything less sexy than people saying you can do this but can't do that etc etc. And some people are very exacting over this, the comments above related to a true story we were told by another couple. Like it says on our profile some times we just play with each other, sometimes we soft play and sometimes we have sex but only if it feels right.

Seems a bit odd to totally deny yourself sex when this is all about sex. What exactly is the difference between someone giving you oral and engaging in penetration if that is what everyone wants? And for the record we actually rarely do that.

Dont think that by not having sex with someone else i am denying myself anything. Dont see why soft swing couples have to justify there decisions to full swap couples. If you dont see the difference between oral and penetration then why dont you soft swing. The answer is because there is a difference and just because something does not work for you does not mean that it doesnt work for others. I thought the world of swinging was open minded but it seems that since being on fabs i have come across more biased judgemental people then in any club i have been too.

Sorry for the rant but so fed up having to defend soft swing/swap to some full swap couples x

We are open minded. We try everything.

I would love to read all the reasons why people would be happy to suck a cock yet not have that cock inserted elsewhere. I actually think oral is a more intimate act than fucking.

I actually dont indulge in any sexual act with men i am on here to have expieriances with other women as i am very bi and a bit of a voyeur as i like to see Silk with other women with/without taking part myself. These are the things we like and dont expect everyone else to enjoy or understand them but fed up of soft play being attacked by those on here who have full intercourse. I would never think of attacking the things full swap couples enjoy or there relationship based on personal preferences and think its unfair that soft couples have to defend thereselves all the time in the forums.

"

Not sure anyone is asking you to justify anything, I'm not. It was a debate on here and I am trying to understand it.

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over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules'

So swinging isn't sensual and erotic?

And why isn't soft swing our interest, we are not duty bound to do either soft or anything else. But we can't think of anything less sexy than people saying you can do this but can't do that etc etc. And some people are very exacting over this, the comments above related to a true story we were told by another couple. Like it says on our profile some times we just play with each other, sometimes we soft play and sometimes we have sex but only if it feels right.

Seems a bit odd to totally deny yourself sex when this is all about sex. What exactly is the difference between someone giving you oral and engaging in penetration if that is what everyone wants? And for the record we actually rarely do that.

Dont think that by not having sex with someone else i am denying myself anything. Dont see why soft swing couples have to justify there decisions to full swap couples. If you dont see the difference between oral and penetration then why dont you soft swing. The answer is because there is a difference and just because something does not work for you does not mean that it doesnt work for others. I thought the world of swinging was open minded but it seems that since being on fabs i have come across more biased judgemental people then in any club i have been too.

Sorry for the rant but so fed up having to defend soft swing/swap to some full swap couples x

We are open minded. We try everything.

I would love to read all the reasons why people would be happy to suck a cock yet not have that cock inserted elsewhere. I actually think oral is a more intimate act than fucking.

I actually dont indulge in any sexual act with men i am on here to have expieriances with other women as i am very bi and a bit of a voyeur as i like to see Silk with other women with/without taking part myself. These are the things we like and dont expect everyone else to enjoy or understand them but fed up of soft play being attacked by those on here who have full intercourse. I would never think of attacking the things full swap couples enjoy or there relationship based on personal preferences and think its unfair that soft couples have to defend thereselves all the time in the forums.

Not sure anyone is asking you to justify anything, I'm not. It was a debate on here and I am trying to understand it."

And i am giving you our point of view that some full swap couples just cant get there head round soft swap unless they think of it as a pre-cursor to eventually moving on to full. It is annoying and disrespectful to other couples who do not have the same goals.

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over a year ago


"All you people all these boundaries maybe you should give out a laminated wipe clean sheet of rules and regulations before you start. You can touch ass not titties, no kissing but you can kiss with your eyes closed, oral if you have the light on and one foot on the floor etc etc

How sensual and erotic.

And yet you list soft swing as one of your interests?....

'sensual and erotic'... swinging?????..yeh right

Re the 'pointless' argument..if a pair/group of couples indulge in an evening of soft swinging and all enjoy it then then surely the whole event wasn't 'pointless'..it had a 'point'..it served there needs..

Perhaps some women are not comfortable being penetrated by another guy..perhaps some guys just dont want full sex with another woman..

Its all about choices surely..not 'rules'

So swinging isn't sensual and erotic?

And why isn't soft swing our interest, we are not duty bound to do either soft or anything else. But we can't think of anything less sexy than people saying you can do this but can't do that etc etc. And some people are very exacting over this, the comments above related to a true story we were told by another couple. Like it says on our profile some times we just play with each other, sometimes we soft play and sometimes we have sex but only if it feels right.

Seems a bit odd to totally deny yourself sex when this is all about sex. What exactly is the difference between someone giving you oral and engaging in penetration if that is what everyone wants? And for the record we actually rarely do that.

Dont think that by not having sex with someone else i am denying myself anything. Dont see why soft swing couples have to justify there decisions to full swap couples. If you dont see the difference between oral and penetration then why dont you soft swing. The answer is because there is a difference and just because something does not work for you does not mean that it doesnt work for others. I thought the world of swinging was open minded but it seems that since being on fabs i have come across more biased judgemental people then in any club i have been too.

Sorry for the rant but so fed up having to defend soft swing/swap to some full swap couples x

We are open minded. We try everything.

I would love to read all the reasons why people would be happy to suck a cock yet not have that cock inserted elsewhere. I actually think oral is a more intimate act than fucking.

I actually dont indulge in any sexual act with men i am on here to have expieriances with other women as i am very bi and a bit of a voyeur as i like to see Silk with other women with/without taking part myself. These are the things we like and dont expect everyone else to enjoy or understand them but fed up of soft play being attacked by those on here who have full intercourse. I would never think of attacking the things full swap couples enjoy or there relationship based on personal preferences and think its unfair that soft couples have to defend thereselves all the time in the forums.

Not sure anyone is asking you to justify anything, I'm not. It was a debate on here and I am trying to understand it.

And i am giving you our point of view that some full swap couples just cant get there head round soft swap unless they think of it as a pre-cursor to eventually moving on to full. It is annoying and disrespectful to other couples who do not have the same goals."

Soft swap often leads to no more than soft swap, all depends on what people want to do. I am still struggling around why some (repeat some) people see soft swap as being less intimate than full sex. Fucking can be very impersonal.

PS I was being facetious above with that rules and regulations comment but that really did happen to someone we know.

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