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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells?" That's the rub, isn't it? Who they want isn't necessarily to be found in the avalanche of erect members being brandished at them. | |||
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"Never short of offers. Often short of men I’d have sex with lol " Exactly this. Quality over quantity is the answer. People have standards so might be that the people messaging and offering don't meet those. | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells?" I really dislike that phrase. | |||
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"Never short of offers. Often short of men I’d have sex with lol " This ^^ | |||
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"I get several messages most days. It's very rare they interest me. So yeah, I get a lot of trouble meeting. Even with people I do want to meet, 12hr shifts, and rolling shift patterns can mean it takes ages to organise meets sometimes." Very true. Distance is another one. People can be a fair distance away and if you dont drive getting to these places can affect wether you’ll meet. | |||
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"Are we broadly agreed that, generally speaking, women struggle to find people they want to meet, while men struggle to find people who want to meet them? " Very broadly, yes. I think some men have complained that they would be more picky if they could. Meaning, they're sacrificing their standards to get a certain amount of sex. To me that's backwards - and it sounds like a lot of women here. If I can't find the people I want to meet, I don't have sex. | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells?" ...................... YES! | |||
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"I have seen numerous well verified women claim that while they have no shortage of offers they struggle to get repeat meets. There could be an argument that some men like the thrill of the chase and have moved on immediately but then again it can't always be the man's fault. Having great pics and an amazing bio is no guarantee that anyone is good in bed regardless of how they look so the lack of repeat meets could be because they have flattered to deceive." Have I read that right - are you suggesting these women don't get repeat meets because they're shit in bed and deceived men with their pics? | |||
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"Are we broadly agreed that, generally speaking, women struggle to find people they want to meet, while men struggle to find people who want to meet them? Very broadly, yes. I think some men have complained that they would be more picky if they could. Meaning, they're sacrificing their standards to get a certain amount of sex. To me that's backwards - and it sounds like a lot of women here. If I can't find the people I want to meet, I don't have sex." This discussion sounds familiar. One that cropped up quite frequently with another poster who appears to have departed. It ended up with claims of a 'top tier 5%'. Lets not go there again.... ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm guessing a lot of ladies are on the site due to meets have dried up on dating sites....the ladies of fab can get sex whenever they want but as someone said above repeat meets will be rare " Quite an assumption, that. Perhaps they're interested in more open minded individuals as it's a swinging site. All sorts of reasons why anyone is on any site, but Fab attracts people for a multitude of reasons. | |||
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"Are we broadly agreed that, generally speaking, women struggle to find people they want to meet, while men struggle to find people who want to meet them? Very broadly, yes. I think some men have complained that they would be more picky if they could. Meaning, they're sacrificing their standards to get a certain amount of sex. To me that's backwards - and it sounds like a lot of women here. If I can't find the people I want to meet, I don't have sex. This discussion sounds familiar. One that cropped up quite frequently with another poster who appears to have departed. It ended up with claims of a 'top tier 5%'. Lets not go there again.... ![]() ![]() ![]() I am still formulating a response to the "top 20%" trope. I see it so many times and the evidence just doesn't back up the claim. | |||
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"Lots of the single ladies on the site aren't swingers just like a lot of the single guys True swingers meet at clubs " Do they? Who made you the oracle? Use "reply and quote" please - it helps people see who you're replying to. | |||
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"Lots of the single ladies on the site aren't swingers just like a lot of the single guys True swingers meet at clubs " Eh? ![]() | |||
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"Lots of the single ladies on the site aren't swingers just like a lot of the single guys True swingers meet at clubs " That's judgemental nonsense. | |||
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"Lots of the single ladies on the site aren't swingers just like a lot of the single guys True swingers meet at clubs " What a load of clap trap | |||
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"I find meeting anyone I’m interested in very difficult. Truly excellent guys are in demand and are rare. There’s a seemingly endless sea of dross though; those who are here for an unpaid service or think that those of us who’re not a size 10 should be grateful for every pitiful advance that comes our way. It really is the pits sometimes. I tend to meet people at parties and if I like them I’ll try see them privately. I’ve had no success meeting strangers through here. " That's a great way of meeting people you are truly compatible with ![]() | |||
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"I have seen numerous well verified women claim that while they have no shortage of offers they struggle to get repeat meets. There could be an argument that some men like the thrill of the chase and have moved on immediately but then again it can't always be the man's fault. Having great pics and an amazing bio is no guarantee that anyone is good in bed regardless of how they look so the lack of repeat meets could be because they have flattered to deceive. Have I read that right - are you suggesting these women don't get repeat meets because they're shit in bed and deceived men with their pics? " I'm suggesting that it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. I fully agree that women don't have it easy in regards to meeting because it's difficult to find men they are attracted to or compatible with. I don't agree that all women find it easier to have sex because as so many have already said there is a big difference between choice and preference. I'm not suggesting that anyone has deceived with their pics. What I'm saying is that having great pics and a fantastic bio has no bearing on their skills in bed just as looks alone don't either. That applies to everyone regardless of gender. They could be highly skilled or they could be crap but there are any number of reasons that women struggle to get repeat meets with the same men. | |||
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"It’s a lot harder for women to meet on here than most people think x" I agree. Plus safety is a big concern for me too. | |||
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"It’s a lot harder for women to meet on here than most people think x I agree. Plus safety is a big concern for me too. " Yeah, I think some guys underestimate the safety thing | |||
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"I find meeting anyone I’m interested in very difficult. Truly excellent guys are in demand and are rare. There’s a seemingly endless sea of dross though; those who are here for an unpaid service or think that those of us who’re not a size 10 should be grateful for every pitiful advance that comes our way. It really is the pits sometimes. I tend to meet people at parties and if I like them I’ll try see them privately. I’ve had no success meeting strangers through here. That's a great way of meeting people you are truly compatible with ![]() I’ve found it’s the only thing that works. I’m always open to meeting great people via my inbox but it’s happened only couple of times in nearly 5 years here. | |||
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"I have seen numerous well verified women claim that while they have no shortage of offers they struggle to get repeat meets. There could be an argument that some men like the thrill of the chase and have moved on immediately but then again it can't always be the man's fault. Having great pics and an amazing bio is no guarantee that anyone is good in bed regardless of how they look so the lack of repeat meets could be because they have flattered to deceive. Have I read that right - are you suggesting these women don't get repeat meets because they're shit in bed and deceived men with their pics? I'm suggesting that it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. I fully agree that women don't have it easy in regards to meeting because it's difficult to find men they are attracted to or compatible with. I don't agree that all women find it easier to have sex because as so many have already said there is a big difference between choice and preference. I'm not suggesting that anyone has deceived with their pics. What I'm saying is that having great pics and a fantastic bio has no bearing on their skills in bed just as looks alone don't either. That applies to everyone regardless of gender. They could be highly skilled or they could be crap but there are any number of reasons that women struggle to get repeat meets with the same men. " Yep, A stunning size 10 attractive blonde, with huge boobs and long legs might be many a guy's ideal meet on here. Until the morning after you've taken her home for the night you've woken up to find one of your bunnies on the hob, the lounge redecorated, a second flat packed wardrobe assembled and stocked in your bedroom overnight whilst you slept, and every book on your shelves reorganised into size and colour rather than alphabetically by author as they were the day before. And she's shaved your long haired cat. And nipped out to the 24 hr Tesco down the road to order new joint stationary and get a front door key cut. I'm sure everyone has met 'crazy' at least once in their life. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'd also like to add that I'm guessing the site as given a lot of ladies a great confidence booster " Can only speak for me but doesn’t do anything for my confidence, good or bad. I already know what I think of myself, no amount of “hey beautiful” messages from men who haven’t even seen my face could ever change that ![]() | |||
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"I'd also like to add that I'm guessing the site as given a lot of ladies a great confidence booster " I’m interested why you would think that? That hasn’t been the case for me. | |||
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"I'd also like to add that I'm guessing the site as given a lot of ladies a great confidence booster I’m interested why you would think that? That hasn’t been the case for me. " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'd also like to add that I'm guessing the site as given a lot of ladies a great confidence booster I’m interested why you would think that? That hasn’t been the case for me. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'd guess equally that the site has given a lot of men a confidence boost too. A | |||
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"I'd also like to add that I'm guessing the site as given a lot of ladies a great confidence booster I’m interested why you would think that? That hasn’t been the case for me. " Same here, but his site doesn’t boost my ego at all, quite the opposite at times | |||
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"I'd also like to add that I'm guessing the site as given a lot of ladies a great confidence booster I’m interested why you would think that? That hasn’t been the case for me. Same here, but his site doesn’t boost my ego at all, quite the opposite at times " | |||
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"I find it extremely difficult to meet guys on here. To echo what others have said above, beyond the practicalities of work hours, periods, life etc, there just aren’t that many that meet the criteria I’m looking for (no disrespect whatsoever to them). I put up I was looking for a meet a few days ago & a guy asked if I had got sorted & if not he would meet me, I very rarely reply to say no (for this exact reason) but on this occasion I did. He was genuinely baffled why I would turn him down on the basis I wasn’t physically attracted to him AT ALL. Sent quite the incel rant about how women are all for equality until it comes to sex & if someone is willing & able for sex when you want it you should have it with them. The most bizarre sexual socialism manifesto I’ve ever read in my life ![]() Member of the Manosphere. Scary. ![]() | |||
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"I have seen numerous well verified women claim that while they have no shortage of offers they struggle to get repeat meets. There could be an argument that some men like the thrill of the chase and have moved on immediately but then again it can't always be the man's fault. Having great pics and an amazing bio is no guarantee that anyone is good in bed regardless of how they look so the lack of repeat meets could be because they have flattered to deceive. Have I read that right - are you suggesting these women don't get repeat meets because they're shit in bed and deceived men with their pics? I'm suggesting that it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. I fully agree that women don't have it easy in regards to meeting because it's difficult to find men they are attracted to or compatible with. I don't agree that all women find it easier to have sex because as so many have already said there is a big difference between choice and preference. I'm not suggesting that anyone has deceived with their pics. What I'm saying is that having great pics and a fantastic bio has no bearing on their skills in bed just as looks alone don't either. That applies to everyone regardless of gender. They could be highly skilled or they could be crap but there are any number of reasons that women struggle to get repeat meets with the same men. " Thank you for the clarification. | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells?" I often go to clubs and don't get anything x | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells?" We go through dry spells when there is no messages ![]() | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells? I often go to clubs and don't get anything x " That's a surprise | |||
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"Never short of offers. Often short of men I’d have sex with lol " Absolutely agree. There are hordes of women and couples but few who pique any real interest! | |||
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"It’s a lot harder for women to meet on here than most people think x" This | |||
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"In the 8/9 months I've been on here I've met maybe 15 people for socials, I've then maybe only had sex with 7/8 of them. But the total number of people who have unboxed me must be about 1383587649176587 It's not actually as easy for women as people think. You've got to take through a hell of a lot of sh!t messages to find the odd one worth even returning a message, then maybe 50% of those amount to nothing." More messages than you can count, 15 socials, and 7 or 8 partners in only 8 or 9 months. "Not as easy for women as people think." Okay. I would quite like to try having this sort of "difficulty" for a while. Just for comparative reasons, of course. | |||
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"It’s a lot harder for women to meet on here than most people think x" Why is this? Glad to hear not just us men lol...I cant even get a social ![]() | |||
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"In the 8/9 months I've been on here I've met maybe 15 people for socials, I've then maybe only had sex with 7/8 of them. But the total number of people who have unboxed me must be about 1383587649176587 It's not actually as easy for women as people think. You've got to take through a hell of a lot of sh!t messages to find the odd one worth even returning a message, then maybe 50% of those amount to nothing. More messages than you can count, 15 socials, and 7 or 8 partners in only 8 or 9 months. "Not as easy for women as people think." Okay. I would quite like to try having this sort of "difficulty" for a while. Just for comparative reasons, of course. " What I'm saying is..... By comparison to the number of messages I receive, only a teeny tiny fraction lead to even a social..... And then only about 50% of those socials lead to anything further..... So from the percentage of messages I receive the tiniest of numbers lead to me actually having sex with someone.... Women have to do A LOT of ing I don't even read half the messages.... One line messages, Those containing dick pics from the off, Are the bulk of what gets sent, and just get instantly deleted, I'd say a good 80% of the men I receive messages from can't bother to put in any effort from the word go.... So there most likely not gonna put the effort in further down the line! So I won't waste my time | |||
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"In the 8/9 months I've been on here I've met maybe 15 people for socials, I've then maybe only had sex with 7/8 of them. But the total number of people who have unboxed me must be about 1383587649176587 It's not actually as easy for women as people think. You've got to take through a hell of a lot of sh!t messages to find the odd one worth even returning a message, then maybe 50% of those amount to nothing. More messages than you can count, 15 socials, and 7 or 8 partners in only 8 or 9 months. "Not as easy for women as people think." Okay. I would quite like to try having this sort of "difficulty" for a while. Just for comparative reasons, of course. What I'm saying is..... By comparison to the number of messages I receive, only a teeny tiny fraction lead to even a social..... And then only about 50% of those socials lead to anything further..... So from the percentage of messages I receive the tiniest of numbers lead to me actually having sex with someone.... Women have to do A LOT of ing I don't even read half the messages.... One line messages, Those containing dick pics from the off, Are the bulk of what gets sent, and just get instantly deleted, I'd say a good 80% of the men I receive messages from can't bother to put in any effort from the word go.... So there most likely not gonna put the effort in further down the line! So I won't waste my time " Would you prefer to have no messages, no meets and no sex at all? | |||
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"In the 8/9 months I've been on here I've met maybe 15 people for socials, I've then maybe only had sex with 7/8 of them. But the total number of people who have unboxed me must be about 1383587649176587 It's not actually as easy for women as people think. You've got to take through a hell of a lot of sh!t messages to find the odd one worth even returning a message, then maybe 50% of those amount to nothing. More messages than you can count, 15 socials, and 7 or 8 partners in only 8 or 9 months. "Not as easy for women as people think." Okay. I would quite like to try having this sort of "difficulty" for a while. Just for comparative reasons, of course. What I'm saying is..... By comparison to the number of messages I receive, only a teeny tiny fraction lead to even a social..... And then only about 50% of those socials lead to anything further..... So from the percentage of messages I receive the tiniest of numbers lead to me actually having sex with someone.... Women have to do A LOT of ing I don't even read half the messages.... One line messages, Those containing dick pics from the off, Are the bulk of what gets sent, and just get instantly deleted, I'd say a good 80% of the men I receive messages from can't bother to put in any effort from the word go.... So there most likely not gonna put the effort in further down the line! So I won't waste my time Would you prefer to have no messages, no meets and no sex at all? " You seem committed to misunderstand her point tbh | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells?" Woman rule, if they want sex with a guy they get it if a guy wants sex with a woman he only gets it if the woman says so. | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells? Woman rule, if they want sex with a guy they get it if a guy wants sex with a woman he only gets it if the woman says so. " Yeah, nah. ![]() | |||
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"In the 8/9 months I've been on here I've met maybe 15 people for socials, I've then maybe only had sex with 7/8 of them. But the total number of people who have unboxed me must be about 1383587649176587 It's not actually as easy for women as people think. You've got to take through a hell of a lot of sh!t messages to find the odd one worth even returning a message, then maybe 50% of those amount to nothing. More messages than you can count, 15 socials, and 7 or 8 partners in only 8 or 9 months. "Not as easy for women as people think." Okay. I would quite like to try having this sort of "difficulty" for a while. Just for comparative reasons, of course. What I'm saying is..... By comparison to the number of messages I receive, only a teeny tiny fraction lead to even a social..... And then only about 50% of those socials lead to anything further..... So from the percentage of messages I receive the tiniest of numbers lead to me actually having sex with someone.... Women have to do A LOT of ing I don't even read half the messages.... One line messages, Those containing dick pics from the off, Are the bulk of what gets sent, and just get instantly deleted, I'd say a good 80% of the men I receive messages from can't bother to put in any effort from the word go.... So there most likely not gonna put the effort in further down the line! So I won't waste my time Would you prefer to have no messages, no meets and no sex at all? " Why should that be the alternative? I think most of us would prefer to approached respectfully by men who’ve taken the time read our profile and are fairly sure they’re what we’re looking for before approaching. Unfortunately that almost never happens. | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells? Woman rule, if they want sex with a guy they get it if a guy wants sex with a woman he only gets it if the woman says so. " Clap trap | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells? Woman rule, if they want sex with a guy they get it if a guy wants sex with a woman he only gets it if the woman says so. " So you're saying that men are not capable of saying no, or are so desperate that they always say yes? That doesn't make men look good. | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells? Woman rule, if they want sex with a guy they get it if a guy wants sex with a woman he only gets it if the woman says so. " rubbish. ive turned women down politely because they were not what im looking for. i will always wait for the right people to come along. | |||
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"I think women will get lots of message and replies but meeting is lot harder as a no meet is better than a bad one " This one gets it! | |||
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"I think women will get lots of message and replies but meeting is lot harder as a no meet is better than a bad one This one gets it! " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If I wanted to have sex with no connection, no introduction, no strings and with someone who I might not even be attracted to, then I could have sex within a couple of hours. But given how much I loathe one night stands, casual meets or the concept of “no strings attached” hook up culture (outside of swinging/kink clubs) then yes it’s tricky. Finding men on here who are willing to chat, become friends and respects my needs as a human being… THAT is hard. But finding sex? No. I could open my legs and a queue for entry would form stretching the length of the M9. " This but I wouldn't want just sex. I want great sex. | |||
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"Lots of the single ladies on the site aren't swingers just like a lot of the single guys True swingers meet at clubs " No, clubs people meet in clubs... | |||
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"I was just thinking about the phrase “Women have sex with who they want and men have sex with who they can” Made me think is it always that easy for ladies or do they go through dry spells? Women rule, if they want sex with a guy they get it, if a guy wants sex with a woman he only gets it if the woman says so. " No, the rules of attraction always apply. The simple fact in Fab/swinger clubs is; the amount of men always outnumber the ladies. So, it's easier for a woman to find someone she is attracted to, when she has so many to choose from, and then it's quite handy if that person finds her attractive too. I've declined offers from ladies in Fab, and in clubs. This 'lifestyle' isn't about sex just because you can ![]() | |||
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