FabSwingers.com forum: photoshoot

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hi all,

Looking for amateur models for a photoshoot.

From fashion to adult, no nudity necessary if you don't want

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who's it for?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Are you a photographer?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You do realise how many 'photographers' offer their services on here?

Many of them, in fact most of them don't show any work on their profiles, it's also pretty rare that anyone will take you up on the offer.

Perhaps showing your handy work on your profile would be a start.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i need some nice pics taken.

but not by you sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i need some nice pics taken.

but not by you sorry

I'm sure he'd shoot you if he met you.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

I had a so called photographer contact me this week .. offering his services .. when I said his pics were very poorly set up (all cocks) could I see some of his work he got abusive and blocked me ..giggles.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I had a so called photographer contact me this week .. offering his services .. when I said his pics were very poorly set up (all cocks) could I see some of his work he got abusive and blocked me ..giggles.

Haha there are some idiots out there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i need some nice pics taken.

but not by you sorry

I'm sure he'd shoot you if he met you."

that made me laugh out loud lol

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys"

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

A signed document stating I will not use/sell the image without prior consent is very valid in this country.

I don't want this post to turn into a debate, its quite simple.

I produce good pictures and if anybody wants a shoot then to get intouch to discuss further details, or see examples of my work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i mostly just as for a shag and maybe some pics...seems to work..am honest

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"A signed document stating I will not use/sell the image without prior consent is very valid in this country.

I don't want this post to turn into a debate, its quite simple.

I produce good pictures and if anybody wants a shoot then to get intouch to discuss further details, or see examples of my work"

It isn't but if that's what you want to think (the same as a lot of photographers do), then carry on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ok no worries, if anybody is interested in a photoshoot I will pass them on to you to give them the lowdown on a signed document

Thanks for your input

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"Ok no worries, if anybody is interested in a photoshoot I will pass them on to you to give them the lowdown on a signed document

Thanks for your input"

Given the fact we have some images on our profile and don't come over as yet another chancer GWC on here, it'd be much appreciated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

check out our pics they are always popular and care is taken with them

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"check out our pics they are always popular and care is taken with them

Nice pics guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

Just before a major debate breaks out here, Model Releases are a requirement for any photo/video shoot. Though not a legal requirement it should be made clear in writing what the pictures will be used for and who owns the art work. We've seen so many arguments between amateur models/talent and photographers over the use and ownership of artwork because things were not made clear beforehand.

It's that simple, get a release form done before a shoot. This also goes for property.

Any questions we're happy to answer.

We both work in the Ad industry so deal with this on a daily basis.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

It's that simple, get a release form done before a shoot. This also goes for property.

Any questions we're happy to answer.

We both work in the Ad industry so deal with this on a daily basis. "

Hey guys.

Thanks for that. I know what both parties need to sign and agree on. That's why I said I would sign if required.

I don't want a debate lol just want a couple of enthusiastic models, as photography is a passion of mine and I enjoy doing it lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ps...im not looking for adult pics....just for the record lol

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By *ick_u_nudeMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

I certainly know that most everyone on here is not here to get a bunch of photos, but I greatly enjoy photography and have the skills to make great photos of couples or singles who may be interested. And, I gladly provide examples.

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

I do photography for couples, singles groups when i get the time as i am pretty busy with work at present.

When i shoot pics for people on here or LS its just for them, if i wanted to use the pics (which i don't) i would need a model release singed & a 2257 release for the States plus 2 bits of photo ID.

Its not easy to use footage without these as word soon gets around, if anyone asks me for pics i tell them to check me out first by simply by putting our studio name in Google...

I have lots of my material on our site & i get Kim to do my pics as she shoots single guys pics for their profiles.

John

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can do pictures, now where is my instamatic

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By *imon and saffyCouple
over a year ago

southampton

Just a thought. There are several sites where you can list your services and find models. The models range from free to paid with various stages between.

The issue with listing here is you'll look like just another single bloke trying to get adult photos.

I know you've said that you aren't but this is an adult contact site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi all,

Looking for amateur models for a photoshoot.

From fashion to adult, no nudity necessary if you don't want

Xxx

Original. Not seen this type of post before...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You do realise how many 'photographers' offer their services on here?

Many of them, in fact most of them don't show any work on their profiles, it's also pretty rare that anyone will take you up on the offer.

Perhaps showing your handy work on your profile would be a start."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi all,

Looking for amateur models for a photoshoot.

From fashion to adult, no nudity necessary if you don't want

Xxx

What size models are you after

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've a new d3200 and need to get to grips with it, I don't mind taking pics to.. But you keep the SD card it's yours, I can download a disclaimer but you keep the card anyway so no drama.

I will be honest, it's just the thrill of taking them and you keep the saucy snaps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

interesting how many people have had cameras and think they are photographers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've a new d3200 and need to get to grips with it, I don't mind taking pics to.. But you keep the SD card it's yours, I can download a disclaimer but you keep the card anyway so no drama.

I will be honest, it's just the thrill of taking them and you keep the saucy snaps

i think before you do photos of others you may need to practice on yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd love to find a photographer to reproduce some ideas I have but I have immensely high standards!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to find a photographer to reproduce some ideas I have but I have immensely high standards!

least you have ideas which is a great start

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to find a photographer to reproduce some ideas I have but I have immensely high standards!

least you have ideas which is a great start

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my profile ones was took with my iPhone but some distort when they are viewed full screen

Might have to get snapping when the wife is out

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"I'd love to find a photographer to reproduce some ideas I have but I have immensely high standards!

Tell me your ideas and we can see if my standards meet your expectations ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to find a photographer to reproduce some ideas I have but I have immensely high standards!

Tell me your ideas and we can see if my standards meet your expectations ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my standards are way to high for my ideas of photos x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to find a photographer to reproduce some ideas I have but I have immensely high standards!

Check the link in my profile for the quality that I produce

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You do realise how many 'photographers' offer their services on here?

Many of them, in fact most of them don't show any work on their profiles, it's also pretty rare that anyone will take you up on the offer.

Perhaps showing your handy work on your profile would be a start."

Its really difficult to show your work in your profile as it is generally other people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

It's that simple, get a release form done before a shoot. This also goes for property.

Any questions we're happy to answer.

We both work in the Ad industry so deal with this on a daily basis. "

Considering you work in advertising it does suprise me that you would write that.

But for me the main thing is can you trust the tog...regardless of any usage agreement there is nothing stopping him publishing your pictures in a readers wives type porn mag or on a porn site.

There are those of us out there who actually have a reputation as a photographer to keep and word of mouth is more damaging than anything So we would just not show pictures away from the agreed usage.

My advice is if you dont want pics of yourself on the web naked then be careful in who you trust sand ignore all of the rubbish you hear about model release forms.

Steve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to find a photographer to reproduce some ideas I have but I have immensely high standards!

Check the link in my profile for the quality that I produce

Great pics and body art. We,d love to have a chat with you.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"check out our pics they are always popular and care is taken with them

Yes, I think they are good. Nice bathroom and kitchen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hubby has a throw away camera and is looking for models x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hubby has a throw away camera and is looking for models x"

LOLOLOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"check out our pics they are always popular and care is taken with them

Your photos are great!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You do realise how many 'photographers' offer their services on here?

Many of them, in fact most of them don't show any work on their profiles, it's also pretty rare that anyone will take you up on the offer.

Perhaps showing your handy work on your profile would be a start.

Its really difficult to show your work in your profile as it is generally other people."

True, but easy to set up a website and provide a link on profile to show work.

Also self portraits of the photographer himself on his profile could show an example of his work.

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

model relase forms are a requirement under law for adult work though, it doesnt waver the copyright of the photographer, you only lose the copyright as a photographer if someone has employed your services to 'shoot', alot of photographers try to hold onto their copyright say for weddings etc, but it has been challenged in court and every time the photograher has lost.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

Challenged in court ,,,,,, I would to examples of this, if it had happened only once I can assure you the professional body I belong to would have informed us toot sweet

Methinks your bluffing a little

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

Challenged in court ,,,,,, I would to examples of this, if it had happened only once I can assure you the professional body I belong to would have informed us toot sweet

Methinks your bluffing a little

Methinks you're the only person on this thread talking any sense. I gave up ! A lot of people reading a lot of stuff on the Internet and failing to understand that most of it applies to US, not UK law !

Wedding photography particularly, the photographer always owns copyright. Try going to get your wedding disk printed at Asda without implicit permission from the photographer and see how far you get. They even refused to print one of my own images for me until I convinced them I'd taken the image and hadn't pilfered it from a magazine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think this is all a crock of shit and we all need to meet ansd do photos

lets see what happens a few willing subjects and some cameras

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"i think this is all a crock of shit and we all need to meet ansd do photos

lets see what happens a few willing subjects and some cameras

Oh, go on then, ya smooth talker ! A Fab group shoot

Sort the men from the boys out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and the professionals out from the iphone bridgad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i think this is all a crock of shit and we all need to meet ansd do photos

lets see what happens a few willing subjects and some cameras

Shoot Out!!! Not had one in ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"interesting how many people have had cameras and think they are photographers

The digital revolution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

It's that simple, get a release form done before a shoot. This also goes for property.

Any questions we're happy to answer.

We both work in the Ad industry so deal with this on a daily basis.

Considering you work in advertising it does suprise me that you would write that.

But for me the main thing is can you trust the tog...regardless of any usage agreement there is nothing stopping him publishing your pictures in a readers wives type porn mag or on a porn site.

My advice is if you dont want pics of yourself on the web naked then be careful in who you trust sand ignore all of the rubbish you hear about model release forms.

Steve"

Trust:

If I'm not shooting myself, we'll select the photographers we've worked with over 15 years. Trust is a major aspect in our business, we have to select the right people because if the images turn out crap, someone is getting sacked.

We've never had a photographer publish pictures when they shouldn't due to the fact we have a trusted list of professionals and as a business we deal in contracts but should a newbie/wannabe fail to do the right thing then we have a lawyer. But like I said, we've never had this problem.

Readers Wives!!! not our market.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes i do like those phone camera pics with the flash!

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

Challenged in court ,,,,,, I would to examples of this, if it had happened only once I can assure you the professional body I belong to would have informed us toot sweet

Methinks your bluffing a little

nope, we been in the industry many years

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

"Hey guys thanks for the tips..

I do do photography yes. Not professionally yet although I do have payed shoots.

I don't put pics on of other people due to them not being pics of me lol, and also I wouldn't showcase my work without the models consent as im sure you can appreciate.

I do have examples from product photography to portraits. Just ask and I will send some.

The pics would be to primarily for the model, and I can sign a model disclaimer form if required.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers guys

Model release/consent forms have no basis in UK Law...you captured the image, you own the copyright...end of.

Any more questions please feel free to ask

Challenged in court ,,,,,, I would to examples of this, if it had happened only once I can assure you the professional body I belong to would have informed us toot sweet

Methinks your bluffing a little

Just because yoiu cant get Asda to print from a cd, doesnt prove correct, just means they dont know the law on copyright.

If the photography retains copyright on everything we shoot, how come the magazines own the copyright once printed? Again, as a photographer, if you are 'employed' to do a shoot, you loose the copyright, it does, has and we assume will stand in court.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

I think this just about covers both your points...I'm not aware that any laws on copyright have changed since 2005, when this was published.

I'd take Wal-Marts lawyers over mine anyday and it's not the magazine that owns copyright, unless they used a staff photographer or had an explicit contract for usage, it's the photographer.

Who owns the copyright on photographs?

Under law, it is the photographer who will own copyright on any photos he/she has taken, with the following exceptions:

If the photographer is an employee of the company the photos are taken for, or is an employee of a company instructed to take the photos, the photographer will be acting on behalf of his/her employer, and the company the photographer works for will own the copyright.

If there is an agreement that assigns copyright to another party.

In all other cases, the photographer will retain the copyright, if the photographer has been paid for his work, the payment will be for the photographer’s time and typically an allocated number of prints. The copyright to the photos will remain with the photographer, and therefore any reproduction without permission would be an infringement of copyright.

Examples:

If Bill Smith asks Peter Jones the photographer to photograph his wedding. Peter Jones will normally provide a single copy of the prints as part of the fee, but any additional prints Bill or his family and friend want must be ordered via Peter as he is the copyright owner and controls who can copy his work.

If Bill Smith engages the services of XYZ-Photos for the same job, and Peter is an employee of XYZ-Photo who instruct Peter to take the photos, XYZ-Photos will be the copyright owner and control how they are used.

This was from the UK Copyright Office website and confirmed by the Governments Intellectual Property Rights website.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Examples:

This was from the UK Copyright Office website and confirmed by the Governments Intellectual Property Rights website.

All of he above is correct.

But as i said previously get away from copyrigth or usage agreements or Model Release forms....only work with those who have a solid reputation and wont fuck you over.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

Examples:

This was from the UK Copyright Office website and confirmed by the Governments Intellectual Property Rights website.

All of he above is correct.

But as i said previously get away from copyrigth or usage agreements or Model Release forms....only work with those who have a solid reputation and wont fuck you over.

Precisely !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

did the op find a model btw

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"did the op find a model btw "

I did wonder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dont look at me

im far too busy being a jumped up cow lololol

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

Examples:

This was from the UK Copyright Office website and confirmed by the Governments Intellectual Property Rights website.

All of he above is correct.

But as i said previously get away from copyrigth or usage agreements or Model Release forms....only work with those who have a solid reputation and wont fuck you over.

Precisely ! "

This is why we tell people to check us out first, doing what we have for 15 years and never ripping anyone off keeps us busy with photo shoots.

We get people travel down from Scotland and the North for pics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wish anyone luck getting me to do what im told on a photo shoot I just cant behave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A friend of mine took my B&W pictures. He's not a pro and he still has them all. He took about 80 I trust him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm always amazed how many lawyers are on fab lol

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"I'm always amazed how many lawyers are on fab lol

Not a lawyer, just know enough to be able to do my job ! Same as I'd know the Health & Safety laws if I worked on a gantry over a motorway.

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