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"Love a hot husband but the wife needs to consent to it, definitely. I love it when a wife offers me her hubby for one night of fun " you can borrow Andy but only if I can watch? Kelly x | |||
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"Married men yes or no? We kind of think yes as they are more discreet but then it’s the moral side." How about married men with permission? Best of both worlds. | |||
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"Married men yes or no? We kind of think yes as they are more discreet but then it’s the moral side." It's their morals that are the issue not yours. He's cheating, not you. | |||
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"has nothing to do with me im not in there shoes i dont walk thier path so im not going to judge ... and to be honest theres no real way of knowing anyway people lie so the chances are you will meet married even if you are set againts it .. also why are these post always titled married men ?? why not just married after all for every man that cheats theres a woman doing so too ...it only stands out on here because men outnumber women by huge sums" If they can accommodate they’re more likely to be single- there are obvious tell tale signs! Also if the number of men outnumber women by huge sums then how can there be a cheating woman for every cheating man? | |||
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"has nothing to do with me im not in there shoes i dont walk thier path so im not going to judge ... and to be honest theres no real way of knowing anyway people lie so the chances are you will meet married even if you are set againts it .. also why are these post always titled married men ?? why not just married after all for every man that cheats theres a woman doing so too ...it only stands out on here because men outnumber women by huge sums" You're spot on there. I'm so used to these types of questions being directed against men, I never thought to bring this up. Also, generally speaking, there seems to be this opinion that men cheat and women cheat, but when women cheat, it's because they're in a loveless marriage therefore justifying the cheating. | |||
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"No as they are unreliable " Out of interest what makes a married man more unreliable than a man with a girlfriend or a single man? | |||
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"has nothing to do with me im not in there shoes i dont walk thier path so im not going to judge ... and to be honest theres no real way of knowing anyway people lie so the chances are you will meet married even if you are set againts it .. also why are these post always titled married men ?? why not just married after all for every man that cheats theres a woman doing so too ...it only stands out on here because men outnumber women by huge sumsYou're spot on there. I'm so used to these types of questions being directed against men, I never thought to bring this up. Also, generally speaking, there seems to be this opinion that men cheat and women cheat, but when women cheat, it's because they're in a loveless marriage therefore justifying the cheating." Maybe the man is in a loveless marriage | |||
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"has nothing to do with me im not in there shoes i dont walk thier path so im not going to judge ... and to be honest theres no real way of knowing anyway people lie so the chances are you will meet married even if you are set againts it .. also why are these post always titled married men ?? why not just married after all for every man that cheats theres a woman doing so too ...it only stands out on here because men outnumber women by huge sumsYou're spot on there. I'm so used to these types of questions being directed against men, I never thought to bring this up. Also, generally speaking, there seems to be this opinion that men cheat and women cheat, but when women cheat, it's because they're in a loveless marriage therefore justifying the cheating. Maybe the man is in a loveless marriage " Maybe or just like the best of both worlds | |||
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"No as they are unreliable " I am, it’s true. | |||
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"Married men yes or no? We kind of think yes as they are more discreet but then it’s the moral side.It's their morals that are the issue not yours. He's cheating, not you." Rubbish. If you are knowingly meeting a man/woman who is cheating on their wife/husband...you are just as much at fault | |||
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"has nothing to do with me im not in there shoes i dont walk thier path so im not going to judge ... and to be honest theres no real way of knowing anyway people lie so the chances are you will meet married even if you are set againts it .. also why are these post always titled married men ?? why not just married after all for every man that cheats theres a woman doing so too ...it only stands out on here because men outnumber women by huge sums If they can accommodate they’re more likely to be single- there are obvious tell tale signs! Also if the number of men outnumber women by huge sums then how can there be a cheating woman for every cheating man?" simple answer is there are not as many women into swinging as with couples too these sites attract men that does not mean there are more cheating men than women there are just as many ...as for spotting them i agree there are many tale tale signs but if you think you 100% can guarantee hes/she is not married then your wrong there will alway be those who will simply lie so well that it will fool anyone.. anyone who thinks it mainly men that cheat needs to give their head a wobble there are plenty of cheating women on here .... and one of the biggest groups of cheats on here are one half of couples who swing on here its a reason i stop couples from messaging as i got fed up with one half asking but not wanting their other half to know .... cheats in all genders and of all walks of life even swingers who can have it all cheat | |||
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"Love a hot husband but the wife needs to consent to it, definitely. I love it when a wife offers me her hubby for one night of fun " I think it's mostly down to trust, honesty and a calculated risk of getting caught by the unknowing partner. Let's not forget that it's the same for married females too, and I've met one or two ladies who were on Fab without the knowledge or consent of their husbands, so it made me feel a bit anxious and possibly put me off having some fun with them. I'll just point out that I'm married too, but I also have a couples profile with my wife. However, the reason I have a singles profile is because she has been trying to pimp me out to females and MF/FF couples but, sadly, no-one has accepted her offer! | |||
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"Married men yes or no? We kind of think yes as they are more discreet but then it’s the moral side.It's their morals that are the issue not yours. He's cheating, not you." It would b my issue if I was enabling his cheating? X | |||
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"has nothing to do with me im not in there shoes i dont walk thier path so im not going to judge ... and to be honest theres no real way of knowing anyway people lie so the chances are you will meet married even if you are set againts it .. also why are these post always titled married men ?? why not just married after all for every man that cheats theres a woman doing so too ...it only stands out on here because men outnumber women by huge sums" Well said. | |||
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"No as they are unreliable Out of interest what makes a married man more unreliable than a man with a girlfriend or a single man?" Because men who live alone (single or girlfriend) don't have to justify disappearing out the house for a couple of hours. | |||
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" We know a couple on the club scene who met a single guy who said he was single etc. A week after the meet the dickhead left himself logged in on fab. His pregnant wife found his fab account read all his messages between him and the couple he met. In her hurt and devastation all her hurt and venom was aimed squarely at the couple he met as they were the dirty immoral swingers who corrupted him. It's got incredibly nasty she told all the couples family members she could find on social media including the couples 15 year old daughter. She printed nude pictures that the couple shared via fab with her hubby and placed them on cars in the lady of the couples workplace. She turned up at the house having gained the address via fab messages making a huge scene in front of the couples neighbours. The police were involved and charges brought. The female of the couple ended up having a mental breakdown due to the months of abuse and stress they were put under including been forced out of her job. They took a break for 2 years and only recently, tentatively started going back to the club only. Now they were lied to and an innocent party and deserved none of what happened. The cheating hubby got off Scot free and is still on fab trying to cheat even now. Now the question is if the cheating hubby was honest and the couple still met him and this happened would they have deserved it and a culpable party in the cheating. To add the couple this happened to would never have met him if he was honest up front. Why the fuck would an honest open couple risk that type of drama and destruction in thier lives? KJ " In her mentally disturbed state she's shifted the moral 'bad guy' onto herself. What hubby did may well have been horrible but what she did was worse and of course, the police got involved. The couple didn't lure him into their 'wicked ways'. The decision to 'shop around' for pussy and then cheat, was entirely made by him. This is always going to cause disagreement with people here, with some entirely on the wifes side and others on the couples side. Each to their own judgement. | |||
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" We know a couple on the club scene who met a single guy who said he was single etc. A week after the meet the dickhead left himself logged in on fab. His pregnant wife found his fab account read all his messages between him and the couple he met. In her hurt and devastation all her hurt and venom was aimed squarely at the couple he met as they were the dirty immoral swingers who corrupted him. It's got incredibly nasty she told all the couples family members she could find on social media including the couples 15 year old daughter. She printed nude pictures that the couple shared via fab with her hubby and placed them on cars in the lady of the couples workplace. She turned up at the house having gained the address via fab messages making a huge scene in front of the couples neighbours. The police were involved and charges brought. The female of the couple ended up having a mental breakdown due to the months of abuse and stress they were put under including been forced out of her job. They took a break for 2 years and only recently, tentatively started going back to the club only. Now they were lied to and an innocent party and deserved none of what happened. The cheating hubby got off Scot free and is still on fab trying to cheat even now. Now the question is if the cheating hubby was honest and the couple still met him and this happened would they have deserved it and a culpable party in the cheating. To add the couple this happened to would never have met him if he was honest up front. Why the fuck would an honest open couple risk that type of drama and destruction in thier lives? KJ In her mentally disturbed state she's shifted the moral 'bad guy' onto herself. What hubby did may well have been horrible but what she did was worse and of course, the police got involved. The couple didn't lure him into their 'wicked ways'. The decision to 'shop around' for pussy and then cheat, was entirely made by him. This is always going to cause disagreement with people here, with some entirely on the wifes side and others on the couples side. Each to their own judgement." When the couple have asked the question as they did are you single and the cheating hubby has said yes then for us the couple this happened to were not in the wrong at all in any way shape or form. They are purely innocent victims. Now had that couple (like some in this thread) asked the question are you single and the cheating hubby said no I'm married and she doesn't know then in that situation that at least share some of the blame. If that was the case would they have deserved thier whole lives been turned upside down I don't know but at least they would have had an opportunity to avoid that happening. KJ | |||
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"What about sexless marriages is that cheating if wife does not want sex but hubby does " Anyone fucking around without their spouse's enthusiastic consent is cheating. | |||
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"What about sexless marriages is that cheating if wife does not want sex but hubby does " Of course it's cheating x | |||
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"What about sexless marriages is that cheating if wife does not want sex but hubby does " The sympathy will always be with the woman rather than the man who is left feeling unloved and craving intimacy. It's not always cut and dried | |||
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" We know a couple on the club scene who met a single guy who said he was single etc. A week after the meet the dickhead left himself logged in on fab. His pregnant wife found his fab account read all his messages between him and the couple he met. In her hurt and devastation all her hurt and venom was aimed squarely at the couple he met as they were the dirty immoral swingers who corrupted him. It's got incredibly nasty she told all the couples family members she could find on social media including the couples 15 year old daughter. She printed nude pictures that the couple shared via fab with her hubby and placed them on cars in the lady of the couples workplace. She turned up at the house having gained the address via fab messages making a huge scene in front of the couples neighbours. The police were involved and charges brought. The female of the couple ended up having a mental breakdown due to the months of abuse and stress they were put under including been forced out of her job. They took a break for 2 years and only recently, tentatively started going back to the club only. Now they were lied to and an innocent party and deserved none of what happened. The cheating hubby got off Scot free and is still on fab trying to cheat even now. Now the question is if the cheating hubby was honest and the couple still met him and this happened would they have deserved it and a culpable party in the cheating. To add the couple this happened to would never have met him if he was honest up front. Why the fuck would an honest open couple risk that type of drama and destruction in thier lives? KJ In her mentally disturbed state she's shifted the moral 'bad guy' onto herself. What hubby did may well have been horrible but what she did was worse and of course, the police got involved. The couple didn't lure him into their 'wicked ways'. The decision to 'shop around' for pussy and then cheat, was entirely made by him. This is always going to cause disagreement with people here, with some entirely on the wifes side and others on the couples side. Each to their own judgement. When the couple have asked the question as they did are you single and the cheating hubby has said yes then for us the couple this happened to were not in the wrong at all in any way shape or form. They are purely innocent victims. Now had that couple (like some in this thread) asked the question are you single and the cheating hubby said no I'm married and she doesn't know then in that situation that at least share some of the blame. If that was the case would they have deserved thier whole lives been turned upside down I don't know but at least they would have had an opportunity to avoid that happening. KJ" I agree with the first part of what you said but I still say the couple didn't deserve what happened to them, whether they knew he was married or not. Certainly not having their friends and family brought into it, nor the physical harrassment. That being said, because his wife was pregnant, then some of what she did can be forgiven. | |||
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"What about sexless marriages is that cheating if wife does not want sex but hubby does The sympathy will always be with the woman rather than the man who is left feeling unloved and craving intimacy. It's not always cut and dried " Agreed. There's no all encompassing answer to this. We can't say cheating, regardless of the reasons behind it, is always wrong. Unless you're extremely religeous and believe in the sanctity of marriage, no matter what. | |||
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"That being said, because his wife was pregnant, then some of what she did can be forgiven." I'm not sure actively trying to destroy someone's life is excusable regardless of hormone levels. | |||
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"That being said, because his wife was pregnant, then some of what she did can be forgiven. I'm not sure actively trying to destroy someone's life is excusable regardless of hormone levels." Right!? | |||
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"That being said, because his wife was pregnant, then some of what she did can be forgiven. I'm not sure actively trying to destroy someone's life is excusable regardless of hormone levels." I know, but it's more understandable than if there was no pregnancy issue and this was a simple case of hubby playing away. Although I did say SOME of what she did can be forgiven. | |||
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"I know, but it's more understandable than if there was no pregnancy issue and this was a simple case of hubby playing away. Although I did say SOME of what she did can be forgiven." Being upset and lashing out, yeah okay. Actively trying to fuck over these people directly to their family and colleagues? Fuck no. Not acceptable under any circumstances. | |||
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"I'm married Do you want a round of applause?!" I imagine he wants a shag | |||
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"What about sexless marriages is that cheating if wife does not want sex but hubby does " Of course it's cheating if your doing it behind her back and lying, why not be honest and say I need more, discuss like adults and find a compromise? Mrs | |||
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"I know, but it's more understandable than if there was no pregnancy issue and this was a simple case of hubby playing away. Although I did say SOME of what she did can be forgiven. Being upset and lashing out, yeah okay. Actively trying to fuck over these people directly to their family and colleagues? Fuck no. Not acceptable under any circumstances." If I was a woman who's husband, the man she adored and worshipped and who's baby was growing inside me decided to shag someone else and I found out about it, who know's how I'd react? Who knows how any of us would react in that situation. I'm condoning or condemning anything I might do, just stating a fact. | |||
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"What about sexless marriages is that cheating if wife does not want sex but hubby does Of course it's cheating if your doing it behind her back and lying, why not be honest and say I need more, discuss like adults and find a compromise? Mrs " What is the compromise if one wants sex and the other doesn’t? Regardless of which way round it is. | |||
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" We know a couple on the club scene who met a single guy who said he was single etc. A week after the meet the dickhead left himself logged in on fab. His pregnant wife found his fab account read all his messages between him and the couple he met. In her hurt and devastation all her hurt and venom was aimed squarely at the couple he met as they were the dirty immoral swingers who corrupted him. It's got incredibly nasty she told all the couples family members she could find on social media including the couples 15 year old daughter. She printed nude pictures that the couple shared via fab with her hubby and placed them on cars in the lady of the couples workplace. She turned up at the house having gained the address via fab messages making a huge scene in front of the couples neighbours. The police were involved and charges brought. The female of the couple ended up having a mental breakdown due to the months of abuse and stress they were put under including been forced out of her job. They took a break for 2 years and only recently, tentatively started going back to the club only. Now they were lied to and an innocent party and deserved none of what happened. The cheating hubby got off Scot free and is still on fab trying to cheat even now. Now the question is if the cheating hubby was honest and the couple still met him and this happened would they have deserved it and a culpable party in the cheating. To add the couple this happened to would never have met him if he was honest up front. Why the fuck would an honest open couple risk that type of drama and destruction in thier lives? KJ In her mentally disturbed state she's shifted the moral 'bad guy' onto herself. What hubby did may well have been horrible but what she did was worse and of course, the police got involved. The couple didn't lure him into their 'wicked ways'. The decision to 'shop around' for pussy and then cheat, was entirely made by him. This is always going to cause disagreement with people here, with some entirely on the wifes side and others on the couples side. Each to their own judgement. When the couple have asked the question as they did are you single and the cheating hubby has said yes then for us the couple this happened to were not in the wrong at all in any way shape or form. They are purely innocent victims. Now had that couple (like some in this thread) asked the question are you single and the cheating hubby said no I'm married and she doesn't know then in that situation that at least share some of the blame. If that was the case would they have deserved thier whole lives been turned upside down I don't know but at least they would have had an opportunity to avoid that happening. KJ" I agree if you knowingly meet married/attached men or women ,then you need to be prepared for any consequences arising from that ,as you've taken a risk with full knowledge. If someone lies about being attached that's very different,people should at least be upfront with others,so they can choose to meet or not . This example proves why lying about being attached can cause drama for others when they had bi idea. | |||
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"If I was a woman who's husband, the man she adored and worshipped and who's baby was growing inside me decided to shag someone else and I found out about it, who know's how I'd react? Who knows how any of us would react in that situation. I'm condoning or condemning anything I might do, just stating a fact." I personally have done some things that I regret, that I do not consider excusable. And if the people I put at risk during those things want to hate me, I understand, and I don't ask them for forgiveness or try to make excuses. The effects of the things we do can leave lasting ripples that negatively affect people for years, regardless of the original intent or how emotionally unstable we were at the time. | |||
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"If I was a woman who's husband, the man she adored and worshipped and who's baby was growing inside me decided to shag someone else and I found out about it, who know's how I'd react? Who knows how any of us would react in that situation. I'm condoning or condemning anything I might do, just stating a fact. I personally have done some things that I regret, that I do not consider excusable. And if the people I put at risk during those things want to hate me, I understand, and I don't ask them for forgiveness or try to make excuses. The effects of the things we do can leave lasting ripples that negatively affect people for years, regardless of the original intent or how emotionally unstable we were at the time." This was never going to be an easy issue to talk about was it, let alone come to any agreement lol | |||
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"It’s none of our business if they are or not married but we tend to stay clear " And unless you do some Scotland yard level detective work, you'll never really know anyway, unless there's the telltale mark on his finger where he's removed his wedding band. | |||
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"Absolutely yes for me. I’m also more than happy with hubs playing solo " You’re a keeper - bet you know the offside rule as well | |||
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"It's a NO from us, don't condone any kind of cheating. Wont be responsible for someone else's hurt. " Tar brush at the ready….. | |||
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"It’s none of our business if they are or not married but we tend to stay clear And unless you do some Scotland yard level detective work, you'll never really know anyway, unless there's the telltale mark on his finger where he's removed his wedding band." You can never be 100% I agree ,but there are often red flags that someone's attached. | |||
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"I'm married Do you want a round of applause?! I imagine he wants a shag " No ta. | |||
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"What about sexless marriages is that cheating if wife does not want sex but hubby does The sympathy will always be with the woman rather than the man who is left feeling unloved and craving intimacy. It's not always cut and dried " 100% agree | |||
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"This is a swingers site not a dating site.. that’s your answer. This is only my opinion but it’s no good lambasting married guys when married couples are doing the same meeting others …ok they may have permission but that doesn’t take away the ring. It’s a tough cookie the answer is never going to be right as we have all joined here for one reason….let’s not forget that! " Rubbish. Married couples meeting others together is completely different from meeting another behind your husband/wife's back. And no, we haven't all joined here for one reason!! People join for whatever, and however they want to. Stop trying to justify cheating!! | |||
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"This is a swingers site not a dating site.. that’s your answer. This is only my opinion but it’s no good lambasting married guys when married couples are doing the same meeting others …ok they may have permission but that doesn’t take away the ring. It’s a tough cookie the answer is never going to be right as we have all joined here for one reason….let’s not forget that! " Completely different! That's not cheating! X | |||
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"Seems to me that its little bit one rule for one and a different rule for others. Ive seen plenty of female profiles that say they are married but he dosent know that they are here." The only difference is that men tend to care less about these things than women, so the women who cheat will face less judgement from the people they're trying to cheat with directly, but that doesn't mean they're any better than the men who do it. They just tend to have a more willing audience so a better reception. I myself wouldn't want to be with a woman who was lying to her spouse either. | |||
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"This is a swingers site not a dating site.. that’s your answer. This is only my opinion but it’s no good lambasting married guys when married couples are doing the same meeting others …ok they may have permission but that doesn’t take away the ring. It’s a tough cookie the answer is never going to be right as we have all joined here for one reason….let’s not forget that! Rubbish. Married couples meeting others together is completely different from meeting another behind your husband/wife's back. And no, we haven't all joined here for one reason!! People join for whatever, and however they want to. Stop trying to justify cheating!!" You are also entitled to your views so I won’t comment | |||
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"Seems to me that its little bit one rule for one and a different rule for others. Ive seen plenty of female profiles that say they are married but he dosent know that they are here." You said this half an hour ago. Yes, there are many double standards between men and women when it comes to sex, love, and relationships. Because men and women are different. I know that's a controversial fact nowadays... but it's still a fact. In general, men care more about sexual infidelity, while women care more about emotional infidelity. And, as was said to you the first time around; the reason you seem to see more female profiles stating they are playing away and getting more success/less judgement from males... is because men generally don't care about it as much. Again, that's just the reality of the situation. | |||
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"Seems to me that its little bit one rule for one and a different rule for others. Ive seen plenty of female profiles that say they are married but he dosent know that they are here. You said this half an hour ago. Yes, there are many double standards between men and women when it comes to sex, love, and relationships. Because men and women are different. I know that's a controversial fact nowadays... but it's still a fact. In general, men care more about sexual infidelity, while women care more about emotional infidelity. And, as was said to you the first time around; the reason you seem to see more female profiles stating they are playing away and getting more success/less judgement from males... is because men generally don't care about it as much. Again, that's just the reality of the situation." I dont much care for your lectures dude but as for me repeating myself, it appears that for some reason my comment was posted twice without me knowing about it so i do apologise if this ground your gears in any way! | |||
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"Don't believe it makes them more discreet at all as if they are capable of lying and stabbing their own partner in back then they are quite easily capable of doing it to random people on here! Doesn't matter what cowardly sob story they have, they can't be trusted. Avoid like the plague!" Cowardly? How ignorant are you? You don’t get to judge my situation. | |||
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"Don't believe it makes them more discreet at all as if they are capable of lying and stabbing their own partner in back then they are quite easily capable of doing it to random people on here! Doesn't matter what cowardly sob story they have, they can't be trusted. Avoid like the plague! Cowardly? How ignorant are you? You don’t get to judge my situation. " We can judge you and married cheats whatever way we want, that's our choice and opinion regarding married cowardly cheats. See it from honest people's view, whatever reason you give how for being a love rat how exactly do you expect anyone to believe it when your not even honest with your own partner? | |||
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"Cowardly? How ignorant are you? You don’t get to judge my situation. " Ooh, let me grab the popcorn. It's so much more fun when they try to justify it | |||
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"Don't believe it makes them more discreet at all as if they are capable of lying and stabbing their own partner in back then they are quite easily capable of doing it to random people on here! Doesn't matter what cowardly sob story they have, they can't be trusted. Avoid like the plague! Cowardly? How ignorant are you? You don’t get to judge my situation. " But if you/others aren't doing it behind their backs and have permission etc then we see no issue with that. | |||
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