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"We are going to explore new things in 2023 and one on our list is cuck play. For us though it is about me being Domme to hubby and teasing and denying him while I have fun with another. His submission of control to me and sexual torment at only being able to watch as I have fun. It is not about humiliation in any form and this would be a major turn off for us both. Are more like this or does there have to be a form of humiliation verbal or otherwise to make it work for you? Without this are we just stag & vixen with a twist? Interested in what others like. " is it fantasy role play or real lifestlye ?? both very different as with fantasy it dont really matter as its role play ... lifestyle or as we put it real cuckold is complex as its 95% mentally for the cuck and requires humiliation for most is some way or another ie from mild to extreme but fantasy being not real it dont really matter as its just role play that you'll get a sexual kick from but it wont be the full cuckold thing as thats alot deeper ... best of luck tho its real good fun | |||
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"Cucking is a spectrum. It can be whatever you want it to be." whiles kind of true that spectrum has been shorten quite a bit by stag and vixen and hotwife both would have come under the cuckold spectrum but as they have there own labels now so theres a new clear line as alot of men did mot want the humiliation side of things ... so yes cuckold can be what and how you want it to be until it falls into stag and vixen and hotwife bracket .. there are lots of couples who call themselves cuckold when in fact they are just hotwife couples | |||
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"Cucking is a spectrum. It can be whatever you want it to be. whiles kind of true that spectrum has been shorten quite a bit by stag and vixen and hotwife both would have come under the cuckold spectrum but as they have there own labels now so theres a new clear line as alot of men did mot want the humiliation side of things ... so yes cuckold can be what and how you want it to be until it falls into stag and vixen and hotwife bracket .. there are lots of couples who call themselves cuckold when in fact they are just hotwife couples " cuck does tend to imply certain things, sure. But I think people can call their likes whatever they want. I don't think it matters, as long as all parties understand what they're gonna get up to together. | |||
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"they can indeed .... but its like ordering chips and getting roast potatoes yep still potatoes but very different ie some labels are labels for a reason " Sure thing. The labels can be useful initially. But when people get talking, I don't think it's a big deal. | |||
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"We are same we always play stag vixen but want to try this but with humiliation. Hard to find genuine experienced bulls though local. Everyones a bull when you post but when you read their profiles it clear they are not. " feel your pain in fact i can tell you we've never met a bull via fab and we've been on here since it opened and infact we've never met a bull online from any other sites ...the bulls we know who know how complex this can be have come from clubs and special club nights.. i have 2 regular guys that are bulls that hate the name as they know how fake it is elsewhere one ive known over 25 years and one under 25 years and the adapted to that role as for 25 years we played the hotwife way with the last 5 years cuckold they are rare and when you find one then keep hold of if you can .. the problem is the people that are story tell cuckolding ie online blogs / books and so on are so far from the real thing | |||
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"Are more like this or does there have to be a form of humiliation verbal or otherwise to make it work for you? Without this are we just stag & vixen with a twist?" We are not interested in humiliation *at all.* The control, teasing, denial, submission etc. are what it's all about for us. | |||
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"they can indeed .... but its like ordering chips and getting roast potatoes yep still potatoes but very different ie some labels are labels for a reason Sure thing. The labels can be useful initially. But when people get talking, I don't think it's a big deal." thats fine for you but for people who live the cuckold lifestyle it is a big thing after all we are living it not fantasizing over it therfore we seek real people and have to sweep 100s of guys way side to find them as they are a rare breed .. ps nothing wrong with fantasy either its just different any one can fantasy anything ... its the same with the kink scene and any other scene theres always 2 sides and its like 80% fantasy/20% real lifestlye | |||
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"i have 2 regular guys that are bulls that hate the name as they know how fake it is" In our experience, anyone using the term 'bull' rarely is. | |||
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"they can indeed .... but its like ordering chips and getting roast potatoes yep still potatoes but very different ie some labels are labels for a reason Sure thing. The labels can be useful initially. But when people get talking, I don't think it's a big deal. thats fine for you but for people who live the cuckold lifestyle it is a big thing after all we are living it not fantasizing over it therfore we seek real people and have to sweep 100s of guys way side to find them as they are a rare breed .. ps nothing wrong with fantasy either its just different any one can fantasy anything ... its the same with the kink scene and any other scene theres always 2 sides and its like 80% fantasy/20% real lifestlye" Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly enough. I don't think the terminology matters is most cases as people will soon learn if they are into the same things. In those cases, precise words hardly matter. If the term cuck is important to eg a couple, that's a different thing. In such cases, of course it has value to them. | |||
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"i have 2 regular guys that are bulls that hate the name as they know how fake it is In our experience, anyone using the term 'bull' rarely is. " oh 100% its the same with most things on here most will say they are anything to get to a woman .. | |||
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"i have 2 regular guys that are bulls that hate the name as they know how fake it is In our experience, anyone using the term 'bull' rarely is. oh 100% its the same with most things on here most will say they are anything to get to a woman .. " It's like 'alpha' as well. Although the whole 'alpha male' concept is flawed, if anyone genuinely was, would they need to advertise it? Wouldn't it just be obvious? I always feel sorry for them and think they probably need a hug from mummy. | |||
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"Anyone who truly understands cuckolding will know that humiliation is a wide and varied thing, it doesn't only mean a Bull or Wife directly humiliating the cuck, the humiliation of knowing that another man can better satisfy your wife is also a very personal thing to a cuck. It certainly doesn't have to be a verbal thing. Incidentally we have been in a cuckold relationship for many years." 100% ...humiliation can be many many things not just verbal ... we have been a full on 24/7 cuckold couple for going into our 6th year after 25 years of hotwife and bi couple fun ...cuckold for us is very real and is our sex life cuck can not penetrate me full stop he 100% limp ... those saying why humiliation or dont get it well dont expect you to ''get'' it if honest that between the cuck and his wife and sometimes the 3 rd guy (if regular) there is a massive difference between play/fantasy cuckold and real cuckold with play you just dont get the real cuck feeling (thats 24/7) its much much more than watching you wife fuck or creampie eating for the cuck its a massive mental game with the woman he loves ... you see it with wannabe cucks too all they go on abot is visual stuff and eating creampies but a real cuck will be lucky if he gets 5% sexual anything its all mind games and cuckold couple are ther most together couples you will ever meet ...we belong to few private groups that are for real cuckold couples its great to be around others who have been cuckold for 10/20/30 years .. we've always had the cuck element to our swinging life style hence hotwife fun most of the time.. | |||
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"oh and i never look for ''bulls'' because most real bulls wont call themselves that same goes for alpha males and dont get me started on doms ..i prefere to say assertive guys im sub sexually that attracts every dom going they have a hard time accepting sexually sub ie nothing to do with bdsm or owning or master sir im just sexually sub it cant be that hard to understand lol " I would suggest that if people are used to D/s words and terms, they are likely to interpret the phase "sexually sub" in that light, and so it may be difficult. I did a quick Google search but like this Wikipedia link they all said sexual submission is often associated with bdsm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_submission I have seen the term a few times on Fab, and it may be the submissive equivalent of what I call "Sex Doms". These are people who describe themselves as dominant and use the language of bdsm but are only interested in having sex and not the relationship dynamic of D/s sex, or the skills of BDSM. I am writing a piece to post on FL and therefore I am curious to understand your definition and description of "sexually sub". | |||
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"sexually submissive is exactly whats said im submissive in a sexual nature that has zero to do with bdsm or d/s it means i like a guy to take me and be in charge sexually when we are having sex how submissive am i thats something that gets discussed some men who ive met regular ill let take it alot further but its all sexual totally nope i just like a guy to be in charge in bed without being a bully or thinking he owns me .. i hear 100S of women say sexually sub but it just seems that guys dont want to listen and automatically assume its bdsm / d/s but i think the big clue is sexually ... as i gather most who are into the bdsm kink thats i know rarely talk sex and d/s is ownership neither come anywhere near sexually sub " Thank you for your thoughtful response. I have some thoughts but before I say anything, I have a disclaimer. I believe people are entitled to self identify and call themselves what they want. So I am in no way dissenting with anything that you have said. My thoughts are: parallel to D/s but under the kink BDSM banner is topping and bottoming. Which tends to be scene based but the bottom sets out their requirements for the Top to meet. However, I have reached the view that many situations described as D/s are top and bottoming and or sexual submission or sexual domination. This is due to there being no genuine power exchange as the broad use of hard limits and soft limits stops the power exchange and those interactions seem to be purely sexual of nature without the B/D and nominal D/s. Although, as I said, people may self identify, I would suggest confusion is caused by the use of the words such as dominant and submissive (which in most minds are tied to D/s) in the purely sexual arena. The conversation does confirm something I was thinking. Also, there may need to be away to distinguish the term sexually submissive in BDSM and the sexually submissive in regard to sex only. Good Luck. | |||
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"We are going to explore new things in 2023 and one on our list is cuck play. For us though it is about me being Domme to hubby and teasing and denying him while I have fun with another. His submission of control to me and sexual torment at only being able to watch as I have fun. It is not about humiliation in any form and this would be a major turn off for us both. Are more like this or does there have to be a form of humiliation verbal or otherwise to make it work for you? Without this are we just stag & vixen with a twist? Interested in what others like. " We are very much like you. My wife plays while I watch. That's it. I don't get involved and love watching without any physical involvement. We have no interest at all in humiliation or belittling. | |||
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"There is a whole lot more to cuckholding than yous know x some people like to get humiliated and used etc whereas other people are totally different x there's a lot of aspects to cuckholding x yous should do a bit of research but whoever yous end up with experimenting with must respect your limits x " actually the cuckold spectrum has been shortened somewhat by stag and vixen and hotwife they were the tame end of cuckolding and they now have there own labels and rightly so as it will stop many from being confused as its all easy to understand now ..well you would think so anyway | |||
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"There is a whole lot more to cuckholding than yous know x some people like to get humiliated and used etc whereas other people are totally different x there's a lot of aspects to cuckholding x yous should do a bit of research but whoever yous end up with experimenting with must respect your limits x " The level of superiority in this thread is amusing. | |||
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"There is a whole lot more to cuckholding than yous know x some people like to get humiliated and used etc whereas other people are totally different x there's a lot of aspects to cuckholding x yous should do a bit of research but whoever yous end up with experimenting with must respect your limits x The level of superiority in this thread is amusing. " i dont see any superiority just opinions we all have them | |||
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