FabSwingers.com forum: Straight men wanting TV's

By *nly the lonely OP Man
over a year ago

Ely

I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong.

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By *eff4000Man
over a year ago

Camberley

I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label.

At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it.

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By *ikesEmBigMan
over a year ago

Herts

" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. "
they're not straight. I'm not sure what's so confusing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Something about TVs that just ooze sexiness I don’t give a fuck about labels

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By *heDesiCandiTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicester

I struggle with the idea of constantly labelling sexuality- we are all just on a spectrum with an acceptance that there is a blurring of sexual desire

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By *nly the lonely OP Man
over a year ago

Ely

I understand. But I just find it strange that some guys state on their profiles that they won't meet men. But are happy to meet TV's . What's the difference as in the end when the clothes come off they are the same. Hard cock , balls . Some like to fuck. More like to be fucked.

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By *heDesiCandiTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicester

"Something about TVs that just ooze sexiness I don’t give a fuck about labels "

I need a trip to Durham!

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

Not all tvs play with men or tvs. Many are just hetrosexual men and enjoy dressing up and that’s it and just like socialising with similar . Some only want to play with women when dressed sexually .

Though prob majority in fab are here to play with who ever as it’s a sex based site ultimately at core .

Tv admirers seem to either be attracted to feminine attributes hence they can get behind a good looking / put together TV. Where other men may think it’s less gay playing with a TVs vs a bi / gay man and can dabble with some cock .

That’s before we even mention actual trans women or trans men as well .

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By *heDesiCandiTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicester

"I understand. But I just find it strange that some guys state on their profiles that they won't meet men. But are happy to meet TV's . What's the difference as in the end when the clothes come off they are the same. Hard cock , balls . Some like to fuck. More like to be fucked. "

Femininity, makeup, smooth hairless body, girlie voice, and not all clothes need to come off - some guys don’t need to see a cocklet

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By *ltra72Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

I’d say they just like sex

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By *nly the lonely OP Man
over a year ago

Ely

It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels.

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By *nly the lonely OP Man
over a year ago

Ely

Surely we all like sex. That's why we're on this site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most men who message me, label themselves as 'straight'

I'll take that as a compliment

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By *ockariaMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Great pics xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels. "

I agree. The sexuality tick box should be removed.

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

Exactly this

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels. "
. I disagree I think labels are important I don’t want to turn up too a couples home expecting a MFM where as they maybe expecting a MMF if I see the male is bi then I can ask further questions to see that I am comfortable with the situation or just say sorry not for me.

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

OK, I need to be careful what I say here!! Like most, labels are rubbish however, I'm annoyed if im ever called a TV!!!! I've been through so much shit, emotional off the scale situations (medication), lost most of my family and disliked by many people, and yes including from some on this site. All because I suffered with gender dysphoria. A TV is someone who dresses in clothes from the opposite sex to that they were born, for sexual gratification (Collins definition)

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label.

At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it. "

Em, except that's not a woman then is it

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

And yes to the point lots of straight men contact me.....

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Theres no difference.

And those men who look to meet them are in denial

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

sorry to hear youve lost most of family and shit from friends,, thats really sad,, no way should it be like that,,

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels. . I disagree I think labels are important I don’t want to turn up too a couples home expecting a MFM where as they maybe expecting a MMF if I see the male is bi then I can ask further questions to see that I am comfortable with the situation or just say sorry not for me."

Totally agree with this so people are able to match their preferences and sexual desires

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think it differs for various people, but in some cases folk are attracted to the femininity of a Tgirl

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By *anchesterknightMan
over a year ago

Leeds

There always seems to be a need to to put people in certain boxes, I recently started a casual relationship with a stunning women who is trans and I would never class myself as bi, we had a connection long before anything sexual

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

Good man....so right....

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By *nly the lonely OP Man
over a year ago

Ely

Totally agree with this so people are able to match their preferences and sexual desires "
, that maybe so. But surely when your chatting with the people before you meet all that would be asked or told. But this is getting away from the question I asked at the start about straight men and TV's.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

Everyone to their own it's no one's business who they want to meet only their own

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

I frigging love labels I find people's hatred or fear of being called bi very very strange, there are far worse things to be in life . If I did anything sexual with the same sex and intended to carry on doing it, people could label me bi until the cows come home.

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By *eff4000Man
over a year ago

Camberley

"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label.

At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it.

Em, except that's not a woman then is it"

The point is I'm attracted to someone that looks like a gorgeous woman you donut.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is an issue on this site -- that TVs and TSs are in the same category.

There's all the difference in the world between someone who dresses up as part of their fetish, and someone who lives and presents as the opposite sex all the time.

Personally, I'm not bi -- I am not open to relationships with men. I'm not attracted to masculinity at all -- I therefore have no interest in crossdressers.

However, I do admire and am totally open to meeting with feminine trans women.

People are not black and white -- and using outdated labels are a very clumsy way of trying to define people.

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By *d_deeTV/TS
over a year ago

cheshire

I have now given up, Any profile that says "straight" I would not entertain.

Now I like the idea of a "straight man" xx

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By *bwgirlygirlWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

If they want a TV then they obviously like the female appearance aspect of it so can understand that they don't see themselves as gay or bisexual

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By *eff4000Man
over a year ago

Camberley

"There is an issue on this site -- that TVs and TSs are in the same category.

There's all the difference in the world between someone who dresses up as part of their fetish, and someone who lives and presents as the opposite sex all the time.

Personally, I'm not bi -- I am not open to relationships with men. I'm not attracted to masculinity at all -- I therefore have no interest in crossdressers.

However, I do admire and am totally open to meeting with feminine trans women.

People are not black and white -- and using outdated labels are a very clumsy way of trying to define people."

Totally agree pal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OK, I need to be careful what I say here!! Like most, labels are rubbish however, I'm annoyed if im ever called a TV!!!! I've been through so much shit, emotional off the scale situations (medication), lost most of my family and disliked by many people, and yes including from some on this site. All because I suffered with gender dysphoria. A TV is someone who dresses in clothes from the opposite sex to that they were born, for sexual gratification (Collins definition)"

Really you should not need to be careful.

I've spoken to several trans women who've unbelievably been accused of transphobia -- all because they are hesitant over whether part time crossdressers should be considered as part of the trans activism movement.

As you said, you've gone through hell with your transition -- totally different situation from those who 'feel a bit feminine' on a particular day, or just don't wish to conform to traditional gender stereotypes.

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

Thank you it is what it is. No one wins when your trans, but at least I'm happy in that sense now.

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

Awww thank you so much. Your a rare one, you fully "get it"......

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I portray myself as a woman not a hairy crossdresser. Femininity is paramount and labelling isn't.

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By *r. MacMan
over a year ago

Bexleyheath

Iv never had a TV but would like to try it out

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

Bloody hell what's happening. You are spot on a true admirer who understands.......

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By *r. MacMan
over a year ago

Bexleyheath

Oh whoops sorry I don't know where that came from my mind went elsewhere again I'm sorry I thought I read something else my bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hot

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Plenty of hetro Transvestites or Crossdressers. The compulsion is to dress and look like the opposite sex not necessarily to have the same sexual desires.

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By *hors fantasyCouple
over a year ago

Blackpool

And here’s half the problem when it comes to a sport etc trans can identify as the female they live life as so legally they are, but when it comes to fab only bi men can fuck trans ladies, so I guess according to most a ts isn’t a female at all even with surgery etc

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By *nly the lonely OP Man
over a year ago

Ely

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I have no problems meeting a TV as I am bi sexual, so happy to meet male or female.

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over a year ago

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

That's the attitude within this country and here at Fab. Gues what not in Europe!! Its why I get so defensive with so many uneducated people...........

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

"And yes to the point lots of straight men contact me....."

They aren't straight then, but they like to identify as straight.

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

I'm sure if the quota of women was higher than men on this site .. very few "straight" men would be seeking out TVs..I think a lot join this site thinking it's gonna be instant shags..find out it's a losing battle meeting women..so think well maybe I'll try a trannie... Remember ..it's only gay if you touch the cock..

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels.

I agree. The sexuality tick box should be removed. "

Sorry but I totally disagree.

Whilst labels are not perfect they definitely serve a purpose. A kind of shorthand for establishing expectations and limits.

If people are honest in describing themselves then they are a help.

Perhaps rather than proposing removing them discussions on offering more options would be a better idea.

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By *hors fantasyCouple
over a year ago

Blackpool

I though trans ladies are legally ladies can use the ladies toilettes go to ladies prison and all that jazz so why is it the people that like them have to be bi?

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"I though trans ladies are legally ladies can use the ladies toilettes go to ladies prison and all that jazz so why is it the people that like them have to be bi?"

Lol. Can’t imagine anyone being brave enough to raise their head above the parapet in response to this one

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By *dventurous fellaMan
over a year ago

where

"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label.

At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it. "

This pretty much sums me up too! Couldn’t have said it better

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

Such a compelling statement whatever shall we do

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

"I struggle with the idea of constantly labelling sexuality- we are all just on a spectrum with an acceptance that there is a blurring of sexual desire "

This

a very succinct description of me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its called being fab straight. And both sexes are guilty of this.

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By *exi-tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Chichester

I like to be kissed or the sex is awful. For that I think you need to be bi.

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By *hrissycox66TV/TS
over a year ago

watford

I am a cd hairless and bi label that x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Exactly this"

My fav TV plus West Ham fan added bonus

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

I'm not a TV you tit.........

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By *oyandJulieMan
over a year ago

blackburn

Sounds like me. I have a think for convincing tvs / ts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My 2p is that it depends how you get your sexual gratification. If you can only enjoy the thought of certain combinations of genitalia etc, then fair enough, that's how you enjoy yourself then hard, well defined labels work for you, and as long as you're happy to let others get on with their lives, then that's no big deal.

If on the other hand it's the person themselves that you enjoy the thought of having sexy times with, then whatever the arrangements are physically shouldn't matter.

I'm not attracted to masculinity, and under that bracket I'm not attracted to men in the same way I wouldn't be attracted to F2M trans either.

I am attracted to femininity, and so am attracted to M2F trans as much as I am women - I mean not *everyone*, I still have to find them attractive, but you get my point.

With that in mind, I wouldn't suddenly stop what I'm doing and refuse to touch anything in the bedroom for fear of being labelled gay or bi. If I've gotten that far,then I'm here to please them hopefully as much as they are to please me.

But waffly, apologies!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not a TV you tit........."

Sorry TS I should know better, my apologies

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By *issalignedTV/TS
over a year ago

London

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The men are not straight tho

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By *laric-DomMan
over a year ago

Chapelhall

Technically everyone who masturbates is bi ...aren't they ?

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Technically everyone who masturbates is bi ...aren't they ? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Generally a TV identifies as a woman. Men are attracted to feminity even when its got a dick. That does nto make them gay as they may never meet a ghay/bi man. Most put their own twist ont his but that is how initial attarctions starts. Then of course they may just want to try a dick in a skirt, few mwn are totally straight in truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Technically everyone who masturbates is bi ...aren't they ? "

Not even remotely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With me, Transvestites and Transsexuals are two completely different things.

I am not attracted to Transvestites in the slightest, a bloke simply dressing up as a woman for a sexual kick does absolutely nothing for me.

A Transsexual on the other hand, someone who identifies as female, someone who lives their entire life as a female, someone who IS a female, I am definitely attracted to that. Transvestites are still very masculine where as Transsexuals are not, especially after a full transition. It is the authentic femininity that attracts me.

I see Transvestites as the Men they are and I see Transsexuals as the Women they are. That's why I have TS on my profile whilst also stating that I don't want to meet any men. Worth noting that I wish I could eliminate the TV part on my profile but FAB doesn't give us that option which I think is absolutely stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it matter?

Maybe they are attracted to femininity not genitals? I would take a convincing sexy TV over a butch masculine skinhead woman any day.

But really, why do you care??

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Does it matter?

Maybe they are attracted to femininity not genitals? I would take a convincing sexy TV over a butch masculine skinhead woman any day.

But really, why do you care??"

The exact opposite here

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By *glyBettyTV/TS
over a year ago

About 3 feet away from the fence

There's a lot of str8 boi wank regret going on in this thread

I personally am not interested in people who are struggling with their sexuality too much. To me it cringe worthy & toxic.

The most toxic type of men who try to hit me up are the ones who think they're too straight & are somehow doing me a favour by messaging me.

Making this demand & having that expectation when truthfully if I want to throw off my wig put my hoodie on & tell you in a gruff masculine voice to run along up the road once you're finished, I will do

If you want a girlfriend experience then go look for a girl. Not entertaining paranoid closet cases.

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By *aturefun63Man
over a year ago

Belper

It’s a bit like gay bi men wanting to suck str8 cock unless they mean not curved,but who cares ,all part of fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Technically everyone who masturbates is bi ...aren't they ? "

Well, no... Masturbation is self love - what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual

make it make sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual

make it make sense"

If you wank, you're gay!!!

Jesus Christ have I time travelled back to my year 7 school days???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual

make it make sense

If you wank, you're gay!!!

Jesus Christ have I time travelled back to my year 7 school days???

Aha doing mental gymnastics here, it's way too early for this

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

OMG, perfectly said, thank you.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual

make it make sense

If you wank, you're gay!!!

Jesus Christ have I time travelled back to my year 7 school days???

Wow. I am SO gay. But I wank over women. So what does that mean? Do gay men watch themselves wank and get off on it? Brain melting.

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

Your comment proves you understand the differences. So much ignorance in the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's a lot of str8 boi wank regret going on in this thread

I personally am not interested in people who are struggling with their sexuality too much. To me it cringe worthy & toxic.

The most toxic type of men who try to hit me up are the ones who think they're too straight & are somehow doing me a favour by messaging me.

If you want a girlfriend experience then go look for a girl. Not entertaining paranoid closet cases. "

Str8 boi wank regret!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your comment proves you understand the differences. So much ignorance in the UK."

If you use the Reply + quote button we'll know which post you are replying to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your comment proves you understand the differences. So much ignorance in the UK."

I just dont get the need to categorise and label. Its as stupid as arguing over a B&Q colour chart. "Oh no its sea green." "WELL I think it is ocean mist" FFS its an infinite scale not a fucking binary. Both colours might be a greeny blue but they arent the same. Same with sexuality. I tick straight cos there are three options, and I dont find masculinity sexually attractive. I like pussy, but if that pussy is on what my brain labels as "man" or "masculine" I am not interested. I dont get why anyone on the thread gives a fuck what someones sexuality is unless they are actively trying to fuck them? I think the OP is looking for men who are open to a bit of discreet bum fun but who will deny it to their dying day so he can try some cock without worrying about people with playground mentality brains calling him a poof.

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

What a load of sweeping nonsense.

Men are attracted to feminity even with a dick?

Few men are totally straight?

What exactly are you basing this on? I for one can state categorically that neither of the above apply to me and id wager the vast majority of men would also fall into the same category

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

"Your comment proves you understand the differences. So much ignorance in the UK.

If you use the Reply + quote button we'll know which post you are replying to.

I never new !!!, God I'm thick.....

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

taunton somerset

people who say lables are not important are very often the ones who use them more often in everyday life ..

labels are important it tells others the basics but where i do agree labels dont always tell the whole story ..

go to a gay night club and tell people labels are not important and you'll have covos all night long about how they are important

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label.

At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it. "

Me too

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

taunton somerset

just look at the TV/TS label on fab and then ask those who have to use it that labels are not important and you will find your answer tv and ts should not be on the same line lets alone the same page

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By *ristol BiteMan
over a year ago

all over

I would probably say they're bi-curious however...

I do remember years ago an image that had a famous trans pornstar who 100% would pass for a pretty petite early 20s girl, everything about her was feminine apart from the big cock.

Then it had another trans pornstar of a muscled, bearded, tatoo'd gruff looking guy with pecs in an Adonis pose with a vagina.

Then it asked which you'd be gay for liking? Is it the equipment or is it femininity Vs masculinity.

The line and what's actually important is different for everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would probably say they're bi-curious however...

I do remember years ago an image that had a famous trans pornstar who 100% would pass for a pretty petite early 20s girl, everything about her was feminine apart from the big cock.

Then it had another trans pornstar of a muscled, bearded, tatoo'd gruff looking guy with pecs in an Adonis pose with a vagina.

Then it asked which you'd be gay for liking? Is it the equipment or is it femininity Vs masculinity.

The line and what's actually important is different for everyone."

The most interesting post I’ve read on this site.

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By *tsJustKateWoman
over a year ago

London

I just block them as obviously they cannot be honest with themselves so.....

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By *ike BajoMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

I look at the photos and if they’re hot they’re hot doesn’t matter what label is applied

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By *imGimMan
over a year ago

london

Why does it matter ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why does it matter ?"

It can matter quite a bit to safety for trans folk.

It’s certainly not unheard of for people to think they’re okay with meeting a trans person, go through with the deed, then regret it afterwards and lash out violently.

It’s one of the warning signs that needs to be looked for when considering your own safety. If someone isn’t comfortable admitting their preferences it has to at least be a consideration to think about.

Whereas someone who is happy to put bi on their profile is less likely to have such regrets.

Of course this is generalising on a grand scale and of course a vast majority of straight men wouldn’t behave like that but when the consequence of just meeting one who is like that can have horrid ramifications, it is something the raises a red flag.

Just a thought to be aware of why some trans people will be wary of meeting straight people

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

My thoughts are that such constructs are always bullshit. Just go for it.

Of course you're getting it wrong. It's all wrong. That's what makes it such fun!

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By *ikemilfloverMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

I hate being labelled as one thing or another !

Generally I enjoy fucking women, but when I’ve played with a couple in the past I’ve ended up having my cock sucked by the guy or sucked him myself.

I’ve dated a TS for a while, she had both boobs and a cock and I suppose in a lot of ways that was the attraction.

Just because I like to expand my sexual horizons so that mean I have to be put into one defined category ?

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

"Why does it matter ?

It can matter quite a bit to safety for trans folk.

It’s certainly not unheard of for people to think they’re okay with meeting a trans person, go through with the deed, then regret it afterwards and lash out violently.

Whereas someone who is happy to put bi on their profile is less likely to have such regrets.

Just a thought to be aware of why some trans people will be wary of meeting straight people

This happens far too often unfortunately with trans women

Every single one of my friends has had to deal with this issue at least once , I have dealt with it over 5 times myself personally.

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By *uzy050TV/TS
over a year ago

Bolton

There are so many different opinions to this , I do sympothize with TS being Labelled with TV,s , its not the same , I,m a TV but dress as a woman because I like to and I admire women , Sexually I can be Bi but only as Suzy , Dressing is not for me 100% Sexual , It is possibly a fetish but does have a sexual element intertwined with the Dressing aspect , People are all different in gender to some degree, some dress purely for sexual Gratification , many TV,s are hetrosexual , Not Gay , why would someone gay be attracted to a Female , From my experience Gay men are attracted to other men , normally and some do not like TV,s at all , others do , its complex and labelling does not help in my opinion. No doubt others will have different opinions depending on where they are in the Spectrum of things.

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By *eeshelleTV/TS
over a year ago

Marlow

"Why does it matter ?

It can matter quite a bit to safety for trans folk.

It’s certainly not unheard of for people to think they’re okay with meeting a trans person, go through with the deed, then regret it afterwards and lash out violently.

Whereas someone who is happy to put bi on their profile is less likely to have such regrets.

Just a thought to be aware of why some trans people will be wary of meeting straight people

This happens far too often unfortunately with trans women

Every single one of my friends has had to deal with this issue at least once , I have dealt with it over 5 times myself personally. "

Wow I must be one of the lucky ones, I have been meeting straight guys for over 10 years and never experienced any violent or abusive behaviour?

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By *ewcdplymouthTV/TS
over a year ago

plymouth

I get a fair few messages and fans etc from "straight" guys, to me I makes no difference what a person label's themselves as x

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