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"Lack of understanding that if a guy is bi it doesn’t mean he’s going to pounce on the male member of a couple? Subconscious doubt of the male partner’s sexuality ? Homophobia ?" These would be high on their list, whether they even know it themselves. Either way, it’s their choice (loss!). Gbat | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly" Nailed it. Completely outdated (and in the case of couples with a bi female hypocritical) prejudiced attitudes that are sadly far more prominent in certain age groups and generations who lived through the AIDs epidemic in the 80s and early 90s. The same people who would point blank refuse (as shown in a thread a few weeks back) to sleep with someone who is open and honest about been Hiv positive but on treatment and confirmed U=U: Undetectable = Untransmittable yet think nothing of going bareback with people who potentially don't test and therefore are unaware of thier up-to-date HIV status as confirmed by the bareback veris. Thankfully the younger generations in the main have moved on, leaving behind the sexuality hang ups of the yesteryears behind and tend to be far more informed of the facts and the science. KJ | |||
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"Lack of understanding that if a guy is bi it doesn’t mean he’s going to pounce on the male member of a couple? Subconscious doubt of the male partner’s sexuality ? Homophobia ? " Yeah! Mr was reluctant to display his curiosity in the fear of potentially preventing fun for me with a lot of couples stating "will not meet!" We're yet to play in an inclusive fashion and he's not attracted to men (just the naughtiness of the option and my fantasies) but it's out there now and he has no interest in "jumping" on anyone.. | |||
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"Lack of understanding that if a guy is bi it doesn’t mean he’s going to pounce on the male member of a couple? Subconscious doubt of the male partner’s sexuality ? Homophobia ? Yeah! Mr was reluctant to display his curiosity in the fear of potentially preventing fun for me with a lot of couples stating "will not meet!" We're yet to play in an inclusive fashion and he's not attracted to men (just the naughtiness of the option and my fantasies) but it's out there now and he has no interest in "jumping" on anyone.." Shame. He can jump on me. | |||
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"** This is to be a discussion , not a judge fest **. Couples/Women (especially where one party is bi), what are your reasons for the "(absolutely, in some cases), no bi men" in your preferences. Yes, I know, each to their own etc, I'm just intrigued as to it as you never see "no bi women"" We can understand "no bi men" entirely. Although we are happy to play with bi men as long as they are happy to play completely straight, we have been disappointed that a few have reneged on the agreement to play straight once the action has started by making a grab for my partner. Guy on guy is an total turn off for both of us and this stops play immediately. The basic problem appears to be that too many bi guys are of the opinion that nobody is totally straight and therefore any man is up for"conversion". | |||
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"Some people just find bisexual play a turn off and aren’t attracted to people who enjoy it. Even playing straight, they are still bi. Some just can’t ignore the fact. There are other sex acts that people do, that would put others off ever meeting them, even if that wasn’t going to happen on that occasion. Nowt as strange as folk." Yep And if everybody was the same it might well be a boring old world. We’d not be everybody’s cup of tea but we respect that x | |||
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"** This is to be a discussion , not a judge fest **. Couples/Women (especially where one party is bi), what are your reasons for the "(absolutely, in some cases), no bi men" in your preferences. Yes, I know, each to their own etc, I'm just intrigued as to it as you never see "no bi women" We can understand "no bi men" entirely. Although we are happy to play with bi men as long as they are happy to play completely straight, we have been disappointed that a few have reneged on the agreement to play straight once the action has started by making a grab for my partner. Guy on guy is a total turn off for both of us and this stops play immediately. The basic problem appears to be that too many bi guys are of the opinion that nobody is totally straight and therefore any man is up for"conversion". " I have yet to go to a club (first one this Friday!) but I won’t lie I worry about women doing the same to me. Is it common? It does seem from swinging in general & the discussion here that women are expected to be ok with FF play, but I’m really not into women (believe me I’ve tried!). | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly" What a complete sack of shit, im not attracted to men so why would we want to meet people we are not attracted too? T | |||
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"as a fully bi couple we dont take offence just use as a filter its that simple .. as for those who think they are playing 100% with str8 guys erm they need to think again lol people lie hubs is on fab guys you would not belive how many genuine str9 guys on here are on there so theres no way your only playing with str8 guys no way at all" This ^^ So many men on FS are also on FG. Absolutely no problem with that of course until you look at their profile and it states they are 100% straight. Of course you are, your many veri’s on there belong to someone else | |||
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"as a fully bi couple we dont take offence just use as a filter its that simple .. as for those who think they are playing 100% with str8 guys erm they need to think again lol people lie hubs is on fab guys you would not belive how many genuine str9 guys on here are on there so theres no way your only playing with str8 guys no way at all This ^^ So many men on FS are also on FG. Absolutely no problem with that of course until you look at their profile and it states they are 100% straight. Of course you are, your many veri’s on there belong to someone else " Yep, not only that but I would say 70% of the messages we receive off 'straight' guys, are them asking for full bi play. So any couple who thinks they are only meeting straight guys off here 'as that's what their profile says' is living in cloud cuckoo land! | |||
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"Agreed this is driven by ignorance, plus we live in a very binary culture so is there any wonder? The Fab descriptors around gender identity and sexuality don't help much either.. " Agreed! | |||
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"What a complete sack of shit, im not attracted to men so why would we want to meet people we are not attracted too? T" But your profile explicitly says you want to meet men? I get that you (T) don’t want to have sex with a man, but you specifically ask for men to meet you as a couple. What does it matter if the man you meet has had sex with men previously or has thought about sex with men? Gbat | |||
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"What a complete sack of shit, im not attracted to men so why would we want to meet people we are not attracted too? T But your profile explicitly says you want to meet men? I get that you (T) don’t want to have sex with a man, but you specifically ask for men to meet you as a couple. What does it matter if the man you meet has had sex with men previously or has thought about sex with men? Gbat " We do indeed say we want to men but we also say that im straight, i have been on the scene 12 years and 7 years as a couple and i can say that i have pretty much seen it all including as stated on one of the posts of people not keeping to the boundaries stated before play started. We go to clubs regularly and i can say that things regarding respecting rules seem to be getting worse than when i first came on the scene, this is one of the reasons we probably wont do another bbw night because there seems to be a growing sense of entitlement. T | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly" Giving blood 17 years ago I saw that on the forms. Sex in Africa was asked about too. Hope they've moved on since. | |||
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"What a complete sack of shit, im not attracted to men so why would we want to meet people we are not attracted too? T But your profile explicitly says you want to meet men? I get that you (T) don’t want to have sex with a man, but you specifically ask for men to meet you as a couple. What does it matter if the man you meet has had sex with men previously or has thought about sex with men? Gbat We do indeed say we want to men but we also say that im straight, i have been on the scene 12 years and 7 years as a couple and i can say that i have pretty much seen it all including as stated on one of the posts of people not keeping to the boundaries stated before play started. We go to clubs regularly and i can say that things regarding respecting rules seem to be getting worse than when i first came on the scene, this is one of the reasons we probably wont do another bbw night because there seems to be a growing sense of entitlement. T" In my first foursome mfmf, I was the only straight one there, I said I was straight and he was cool with that, so give the bi guys and girls a chance to prove that they can behave. | |||
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"What a complete sack of shit, im not attracted to men so why would we want to meet people we are not attracted too? T But your profile explicitly says you want to meet men? I get that you (T) don’t want to have sex with a man, but you specifically ask for men to meet you as a couple. What does it matter if the man you meet has had sex with men previously or has thought about sex with men? Gbat We do indeed say we want to men but we also say that im straight, i have been on the scene 12 years and 7 years as a couple and i can say that i have pretty much seen it all including as stated on one of the posts of people not keeping to the boundaries stated before play started. We go to clubs regularly and i can say that things regarding respecting rules seem to be getting worse than when i first came on the scene, this is one of the reasons we probably wont do another bbw night because there seems to be a growing sense of entitlement. T" So is it only bi guys that try and push the boundaries or do straight guys also do that at BBW nights? Does any member of a couple sometimes try and do something that you’ve agreed not to do? I agree with you. Consent is everything. If ANYONE regardless of their sexuality oversteps the mark, then it’s definitely impolite, morally wrong and almost definitely illegal. But you only choose not to meet bi guys as you (T) are straight. What about all those people who act as outlined above but don’t get an automatic ban from you? It seems that it’s only bi guys you don’t trust. You be you and I’ll be me, but when you are being you, make sure you really know who you are. Gbat | |||
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"Maybe people are turned off by the idea in the same way if they were turned off by something else to do with a persons behaviour or attitude. Its not homophobic just not what excites them sexually. " But what of their behaviour or attitude exactly do you think they might display? It’s not as if their likely to turn up like a bad character from a Dick Emery sketch. If I didn’t tell you I sometimes play bi, you’d never know. Just like I won’t suddenly assume the woman wants hard, unlubricated anal sex from me, I also won’t assume the man wants any sexual contact with me. It’s not difficult! Gbat | |||
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"Maybe people are turned off by the idea in the same way if they were turned off by something else to do with a persons behaviour or attitude. Its not homophobic just not what excites them sexually. But what of their behaviour or attitude exactly do you think they might display? It’s not as if their likely to turn up like a bad character from a Dick Emery sketch. If I didn’t tell you I sometimes play bi, you’d never know. Just like I won’t suddenly assume the woman wants hard, unlubricated anal sex from me, I also won’t assume the man wants any sexual contact with me. It’s not difficult! Gbat " Think you may have misread my post. It’s not difficult. Nothing was said about about the attitude or behaviour of bi sexual men but as people in general being turned off by something about a person they just can’t block it out because you want to play straight. These are not our own view’s was simply adding a reason as to why a couple may not want to meet a man. | |||
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"What a complete sack of shit, im not attracted to men so why would we want to meet people we are not attracted too? T But your profile explicitly says you want to meet men? I get that you (T) don’t want to have sex with a man, but you specifically ask for men to meet you as a couple. What does it matter if the man you meet has had sex with men previously or has thought about sex with men? Gbat We do indeed say we want to men but we also say that im straight, i have been on the scene 12 years and 7 years as a couple and i can say that i have pretty much seen it all including as stated on one of the posts of people not keeping to the boundaries stated before play started. We go to clubs regularly and i can say that things regarding respecting rules seem to be getting worse than when i first came on the scene, this is one of the reasons we probably wont do another bbw night because there seems to be a growing sense of entitlement. T So is it only bi guys that try and push the boundaries or do straight guys also do that at BBW nights? Does any member of a couple sometimes try and do something that you’ve agreed not to do? I agree with you. Consent is everything. If ANYONE regardless of their sexuality oversteps the mark, then it’s definitely impolite, morally wrong and almost definitely illegal. But you only choose not to meet bi guys as you (T) are straight. What about all those people who act as outlined above but don’t get an automatic ban from you? It seems that it’s only bi guys you don’t trust. You be you and I’ll be me, but when you are being you, make sure you really know who you are. Gbat " Well you would have to ask the people breaking club rules what their sexuality is as we report them to the management rather than engage with them so to try and suggest we single out bi guys is a bit silly. T | |||
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"So many bisexual guys are shamed into labeling themselves as 'straight' on here. I'm sure we're all, at least a little bi-curious??? It's 2022 FFS " No not all of us there really are some straight people around. | |||
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" to try and suggest we single out bi guys is a bit silly. T" I’m not for one minute trying to suggest you single out bi guys in clubs. I’ve never met you anywhere, let alone in a club. But you seemed to be singling bi guys out from your earlier post when you said you don’t meet them because you’re straight. You went in to say that people break set boundaries and I commented on that all types of people break boundaries yet you only seem to preclude bi men. That’s what I was commenting on. Gbat | |||
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"Everyone is different, i see it as a good filter that the couple or single woman etc is bigoted and probably a bit of a t**t, voted for brexit, house smells of dogs, has a leather sofa, you know the type! " I see it as a good filter too. But what's so evil about leather sofas?! | |||
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"Everyone is different, i see it as a good filter that the couple or single woman etc is bigoted and probably a bit of a t**t, voted for brexit, house smells of dogs, has a leather sofa, you know the type! I see it as a good filter too. But what's so evil about leather sofas?!" Silicone based lube is a bugger to shift from them. | |||
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"Notwithstanding I'm usually in a minority, but my reason is my personal aversion to human shit. Some of the comments from people not wearing "no bi men" shoes are revealingly judgy, smh. " Do you also rule out playing with straight people who like anal? | |||
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"So many bisexual guys are shamed into labeling themselves as 'straight' on here. I'm sure we're all, at least a little bi-curious??? It's 2022 FFS " Not all no ,I'm straight I have no problem with bi men,my other half can be orally bi with the right people . | |||
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"I’m Bi and my profile states that, I have played with bi couples and straight ones, would never dream of jumping on a guy unless he asked. As long as we all respect each other let’s have fun " Yes, but about 20% or so of bi guys we have met have jumped on my partner after agreeing not to. You may well be different, but how do we know without taking the risk of ruining what could have been a great evening? We are willing to take that risk, but many aren't and correspondingly your chances have been spoiled by those guys that don't respect boundaries. | |||
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"So many bisexual guys are shamed into labeling themselves as 'straight' on here. I'm sure we're all, at least a little bi-curious??? It's 2022 FFS " Unfortunately it's exactly this attitude - "we're all, at least a bit bi curious" - that encourages bi guys to try it on with a straight guy. Why is it so difficult to understand that there really are totally straight men and women, for whom even the thought of playing with the same sex is a total turn off? | |||
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"my reason is my personal aversion to human shit." Why do you assume: (1) that every bi man does it up the jacksie? (2) That bisexual men don't take care of personal hygiene? (3) That anal is an activity solely reserved for bi and gay men? You seem to have a very odd logical processing. | |||
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"Why can't people just accept bisexuality isn't for everyone. Instead of calling someone bigoted narrow minded frightened of aids etc. As much as you sing the praise of bi life style it's not for everyone . Live and let live." That isn't the point. Think of it in terms of an analogy... Scenario 1. Imagine you don't like cats, but don't care if other people have cats. You talk to people with cats, the cat owners are just as welcome into your home as everyone else, so long as they don't bring the cat with them. You claim you have nothing against cat owners, and you'd be right -- it's not a moral objection, it's just a matter of taste. Scenario 2. Imagine again that you don't like cats -- but this time you won't let a cat lover come into your home. You're scared they might spread disease, you think they're going to force a cat onto you, that you're going to start loving cats yourself or that cat owners are somehow less fun, less decent, more dangerous. You think that, because they stroke cats, that there's something dirty or wrong about them. They protest that their liking of cats shouldn't affect anyone else, but you behave like you have a moral objection -- it isn't just a matter of personal taste, because what they do with their cats will never affect you. | |||
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" to try and suggest we single out bi guys is a bit silly. T I’m not for one minute trying to suggest you single out bi guys in clubs. I’ve never met you anywhere, let alone in a club. But you seemed to be singling bi guys out from your earlier post when you said you don’t meet them because you’re straight. You went in to say that people break set boundaries and I commented on that all types of people break boundaries yet you only seem to preclude bi men. That’s what I was commenting on. Gbat " When you said " it seems its only bi guys you dont trust" to me seems like there is a hidden agenda on your part. At the end of the day people will meet the people that fits what they are looking for, no one owes anyone anything and if you dont fit the description just move on to the people who do want to meet you. T | |||
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"** This is to be a discussion , not a judge fest **. Couples/Women (especially where one party is bi), what are your reasons for the "(absolutely, in some cases), no bi men" in your preferences. Yes, I know, each to their own etc, I'm just intrigued as to it as you never see "no bi women" We can understand "no bi men" entirely. Although we are happy to play with bi men as long as they are happy to play completely straight, we have been disappointed that a few have reneged on the agreement to play straight once the action has started by making a grab for my partner. Guy on guy is an total turn off for both of us and this stops play immediately. The basic problem appears to be that too many bi guys are of the opinion that nobody is totally straight and therefore any man is up for"conversion". " | |||
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"** This is to be a discussion , not a judge fest **. Couples/Women (especially where one party is bi), what are your reasons for the "(absolutely, in some cases), no bi men" in your preferences. Yes, I know, each to their own etc, I'm just intrigued as to it as you never see "no bi women" We can understand "no bi men" entirely. Although we are happy to play with bi men as long as they are happy to play completely straight, we have been disappointed that a few have reneged on the agreement to play straight once the action has started by making a grab for my partner. Guy on guy is a total turn off for both of us and this stops play immediately. The basic problem appears to be that too many bi guys are of the opinion that nobody is totally straight and therefore any man is up for"conversion". I have yet to go to a club (first one this Friday!) but I won’t lie I worry about women doing the same to me. Is it common? It does seem from swinging in general & the discussion here that women are expected to be ok with FF play, but I’m really not into women (believe me I’ve tried!). " Some women assume that all women are bi and will try it on or touch without asking. Just say no as you would with a man. Women often get very arsey if someone says no. | |||
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"Lack of understanding that if a guy is bi it doesn’t mean he’s going to pounce on the male member of a couple? Subconscious doubt of the male partner’s sexuality ? Homophobia ? " All 3 of these tbh | |||
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"It is a bit of nonsense anyway. I'm sure that there are a number of men on here as straight but play bi as well." lol think you will find that number is very high indeed | |||
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"It is a bit of nonsense anyway. I'm sure that there are a number of men on here as straight but play bi as well." Yep - there's many of those around, also 'straight' but looking to meet TVs ... um, got bad news .... | |||
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"I’m Bi and my profile states that, I have played with bi couples and straight ones, would never dream of jumping on a guy unless he asked. As long as we all respect each other let’s have fun Yes, but about 20% or so of bi guys we have met have jumped on my partner after agreeing not to. You may well be different, but how do we know without taking the risk of ruining what could have been a great evening? We are willing to take that risk, but many aren't and correspondingly your chances have been spoiled by those guys that don't respect boundaries. " 100% agree with this. I am happy to play straight with couples. But I totally respect everyone here who says no bi man (or woman). How can I prove that I won’t break agreement? No way I can prove it unless we meet. Taking that risk is solely their decision, I don’t want to influence it. | |||
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"Wow,such a lot of self entitled replies How about just accepting the fact,some people,couples,women men,don't find the idea of playing with a bisexual man a turn on. And yes I have seen profiles saying no bi women. I have seen many many couples posts saying no men,at all,neither bo nor straight Just accept the wishes of others" | |||
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"also 'straight' but looking to meet TVs ... um, got bad news .... " Not really -- an attraction to femininity isn't necessarily the same as an attraction to men. To be fair, I have no interest in men or TVs -- but totally cool with someone TS (i.e. living and presenting as a woman full time). One problem with this site is that every hairy crossdresser and their mother tries to 'identify' as a woman nowadays. The gender/sexuality options on here are very out of date. | |||
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"A lot of responses hitting the nail on the head and quite thoughtful. It also appears that fab desperately needs a "Heteexible" option. Also, all you gorgeous accepting people give me a smile!" | |||
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"Lack of understanding that if a guy is bi it doesn’t mean he’s going to pounce on the male member of a couple? Subconscious doubt of the male partner’s sexuality ? Homophobia ? These would be high on their list, whether they even know it themselves. Either way, it’s their choice (loss!). Gbat " Exactly the above! | |||
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"also 'straight' but looking to meet TVs ... um, got bad news .... Not really -- an attraction to femininity isn't necessarily the same as an attraction to men. To be fair, I have no interest in men or TVs -- but totally cool with someone TS (i.e. living and presenting as a woman full time). One problem with this site is that every hairy crossdresser and their mother tries to 'identify' as a woman nowadays. The gender/sexuality options on here are very out of date. " I agree with this. There should be options for actual transgender people and cross dressers as there is a massive difference! | |||
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"Why can't people just accept bisexuality isn't for everyone. Instead of calling someone bigoted narrow minded frightened of aids etc. As much as you sing the praise of bi life style it's not for everyone . Live and let live." Totally agree | |||
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"It is a bit of nonsense anyway. I'm sure that there are a number of men on here as straight but play bi as well." From the messages I get that number is HUGE. | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly" G I think most people here where like 7 or not even born... | |||
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"Some people just find bisexual play a turn off and aren’t attracted to people who enjoy it. Even playing straight, they are still bi. Some just can’t ignore the fact. There are other sex acts that people do, that would put others off ever meeting them, even if that wasn’t going to happen on that occasion. Nowt as strange as folk." What other sex acts does just the fact off, even if it’s not going to happen? | |||
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"Wow!! Some very broad white washing statement's on this thread.. An arsehole is an arsehole (excuse the..) It matters not whether someone is male, female, straight, bi, gay or confused! D has had a couple of very forceful/predatory women grabbing at him and trying to get him alone in club's who he had no wish to play with! I've laughed it off, but in hindsight I should have had his back and told them to fuck off as he does for me! #fail. Label's are counterproductive and one experience doesn't define a group that the idiot male or female may represent in your opinion. " | |||
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"Some people just find bisexual play a turn off and aren’t attracted to people who enjoy it. Even playing straight, they are still bi. Some just can’t ignore the fact. There are other sex acts that people do, that would put others off ever meeting them, even if that wasn’t going to happen on that occasion. Nowt as strange as folk. What other sex acts does just the fact off, even if it’s not going to happen? " Bareback | |||
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"It is a bit of nonsense anyway. I'm sure that there are a number of men on here as straight but play bi as well." So many it is unreal! | |||
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"Lack of understanding that if a guy is bi it doesn’t mean he’s going to pounce on the male member of a couple? Subconscious doubt of the male partner’s sexuality ? Homophobia ? " Yes, all of the above. | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly" The fact the hiv/AIDS explosion happened in the 80’s, and WAS carried by gay/bi men mostly, doesn’t mean it has gone away. Men are stereotyped to be wild beasts, unable to control their sexual urges, and the promiscuous gay/bi men did little to convince people otherwise, and Fab launching Fab Guys to ease the burden on the main site, only proves this. Why the different thinking about bi women, being ‘acceptable’? Did anyone spread hiv/AIDS from licking pussy……? | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly The fact the hiv/AIDS explosion happened in the 80’s, and WAS carried by gay/bi men mostly, doesn’t mean it has gone away. Men are stereotyped to be wild beasts, unable to control their sexual urges, and the promiscuous gay/bi men did little to convince people otherwise, and Fab launching Fab Guys to ease the burden on the main site, only proves this. Why the different thinking about bi women, being ‘acceptable’? Did anyone spread hiv/AIDS from licking pussy……?" So much ignorance in that post. It's 2022 bud. For the first time in a decade, the number of new HIV diagnoses among heterosexuals is higher than for gay and bisexual men, according to new figures for England from the UK Health Security Agency. Half of all new HIV diagnoses were in heterosexuals (49%) in England in 2020, compared to 45% in gay and bisexual men.7 Feb 2022 Sources and further statistics https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,in%20gay%20and%20bisexual%20men. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/09/hiv-infects-heterosexual-gay-bisexual-men-uk-testing-virus https://www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/about-hiv/hiv-statistics | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly The fact the hiv/AIDS explosion happened in the 80’s, and WAS carried by gay/bi men mostly, doesn’t mean it has gone away. Men are stereotyped to be wild beasts, unable to control their sexual urges, and the promiscuous gay/bi men did little to convince people otherwise, and Fab launching Fab Guys to ease the burden on the main site, only proves this. Why the different thinking about bi women, being ‘acceptable’? Did anyone spread hiv/AIDS from licking pussy……? So much ignorance in that post. It's 2022 bud. For the first time in a decade, the number of new HIV diagnoses among heterosexuals is higher than for gay and bisexual men, according to new figures for England from the UK Health Security Agency. Half of all new HIV diagnoses were in heterosexuals (49%) in England in 2020, compared to 45% in gay and bisexual men.7 Feb 2022 Sources and further statistics https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,in%20gay%20and%20bisexual%20men. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/09/hiv-infects-heterosexual-gay-bisexual-men-uk-testing-virus https://www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/about-hiv/hiv-statistics " Are any of these current statistics resulting from ‘Fab straight’ men…..? | |||
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"Some people just find bisexual play a turn off and aren’t attracted to people who enjoy it. Even playing straight, they are still bi. Some just can’t ignore the fact. There are other sex acts that people do, that would put others off ever meeting them, even if that wasn’t going to happen on that occasion. Nowt as strange as folk." Exactly this! It’s just preference like hundreds of other things in sex, attraction and relationships. I have no issue with what other people do, but not everything will float my boat. Each to their own | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly The fact the hiv/AIDS explosion happened in the 80’s, and WAS carried by gay/bi men mostly, doesn’t mean it has gone away. Men are stereotyped to be wild beasts, unable to control their sexual urges, and the promiscuous gay/bi men did little to convince people otherwise, and Fab launching Fab Guys to ease the burden on the main site, only proves this. Why the different thinking about bi women, being ‘acceptable’? Did anyone spread hiv/AIDS from licking pussy……? So much ignorance in that post. It's 2022 bud. For the first time in a decade, the number of new HIV diagnoses among heterosexuals is higher than for gay and bisexual men, according to new figures for England from the UK Health Security Agency. Half of all new HIV diagnoses were in heterosexuals (49%) in England in 2020, compared to 45% in gay and bisexual men.7 Feb 2022 Sources and further statistics https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,in%20gay%20and%20bisexual%20men. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/09/hiv-infects-heterosexual-gay-bisexual-men-uk-testing-virus https://www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/about-hiv/hiv-statistics Are any of these current statistics resulting from ‘Fab straight’ men…..? " Maybe if may have some impact but then the fab straight guys who hide thier sexuality are also far more likely to take risks and not know thier HIV status be on prep to stay protected and then sadly go home to infect there wife / GF. Far more Openly bi-sexual and gay men these days take thier sexual seriously in terms of testing and prep provention. It's just a shame outdate views and stereotyping stops more of the fab straight to be honest. All the statistics show that a significant number of infections (the majority these days) happens in the hetro group that's just the facts. KJ | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly The fact the hiv/AIDS explosion happened in the 80’s, and WAS carried by gay/bi men mostly, doesn’t mean it has gone away. Men are stereotyped to be wild beasts, unable to control their sexual urges, and the promiscuous gay/bi men did little to convince people otherwise, and Fab launching Fab Guys to ease the burden on the main site, only proves this. Why the different thinking about bi women, being ‘acceptable’? Did anyone spread hiv/AIDS from licking pussy……? So much ignorance in that post. It's 2022 bud. For the first time in a decade, the number of new HIV diagnoses among heterosexuals is higher than for gay and bisexual men, according to new figures for England from the UK Health Security Agency. Half of all new HIV diagnoses were in heterosexuals (49%) in England in 2020, compared to 45% in gay and bisexual men.7 Feb 2022 Sources and further statistics https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,in%20gay%20and%20bisexual%20men. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/09/hiv-infects-heterosexual-gay-bisexual-men-uk-testing-virus https://www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/about-hiv/hiv-statistics Are any of these current statistics resulting from ‘Fab straight’ men…..? Maybe if may have some impact but then the fab straight guys who hide thier sexuality are also far more likely to take risks and not know thier HIV status be on prep to stay protected and then sadly go home to infect there wife / GF. Far more Openly bi-sexual and gay men these days take thier sexual seriously in terms of testing and prep provention. It's just a shame outdate views and stereotyping stops more of the fab straight to be honest. All the statistics show that a significant number of infections (the majority these days) happens in the hetro group that's just the facts. KJ" Therein lies the issue; out of those statistics, how many ticked the ‘straight’ box because they didn’t want to admit they are bi/closet gay……? I prefer to not meet those who play with openly bi guys. I have no control on meeting people who have met people who aren’t as honest with their profiles though | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly The fact the hiv/AIDS explosion happened in the 80’s, and WAS carried by gay/bi men mostly, doesn’t mean it has gone away. Men are stereotyped to be wild beasts, unable to control their sexual urges, and the promiscuous gay/bi men did little to convince people otherwise, and Fab launching Fab Guys to ease the burden on the main site, only proves this. Why the different thinking about bi women, being ‘acceptable’? Did anyone spread hiv/AIDS from licking pussy……? So much ignorance in that post. It's 2022 bud. For the first time in a decade, the number of new HIV diagnoses among heterosexuals is higher than for gay and bisexual men, according to new figures for England from the UK Health Security Agency. Half of all new HIV diagnoses were in heterosexuals (49%) in England in 2020, compared to 45% in gay and bisexual men.7 Feb 2022 Sources and further statistics https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,in%20gay%20and%20bisexual%20men. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/09/hiv-infects-heterosexual-gay-bisexual-men-uk-testing-virus https://www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/about-hiv/hiv-statistics Are any of these current statistics resulting from ‘Fab straight’ men…..? Maybe if may have some impact but then the fab straight guys who hide thier sexuality are also far more likely to take risks and not know thier HIV status be on prep to stay protected and then sadly go home to infect there wife / GF. Far more Openly bi-sexual and gay men these days take thier sexual seriously in terms of testing and prep provention. It's just a shame outdate views and stereotyping stops more of the fab straight to be honest. All the statistics show that a significant number of infections (the majority these days) happens in the hetro group that's just the facts. KJ Therein lies the issue; out of those statistics, how many ticked the ‘straight’ box because they didn’t want to admit they are bi/closet gay……? I prefer to not meet those who play with openly bi guys. I have no control on meeting people who have met people who aren’t as honest with their profiles though " I'm guessing you are saying you wouldn't meet a women who has previously met a openly bi male? I.e the group most likely to test regularly and take prep to prevent contracting hiv. Yet guaranteed many of your previously female meets will have meet fab straight males i.e those who are least likely to test and take prep therefore presenting a much greater risk. KJ | |||
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"it cause they lived in the 80s and aids was carried by gay/bi men mostly The fact the hiv/AIDS explosion happened in the 80’s, and WAS carried by gay/bi men mostly, doesn’t mean it has gone away. Men are stereotyped to be wild beasts, unable to control their sexual urges, and the promiscuous gay/bi men did little to convince people otherwise, and Fab launching Fab Guys to ease the burden on the main site, only proves this. Why the different thinking about bi women, being ‘acceptable’? Did anyone spread hiv/AIDS from licking pussy……? So much ignorance in that post. It's 2022 bud. For the first time in a decade, the number of new HIV diagnoses among heterosexuals is higher than for gay and bisexual men, according to new figures for England from the UK Health Security Agency. Half of all new HIV diagnoses were in heterosexuals (49%) in England in 2020, compared to 45% in gay and bisexual men.7 Feb 2022 Sources and further statistics https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,in%20gay%20and%20bisexual%20men. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/09/hiv-infects-heterosexual-gay-bisexual-men-uk-testing-virus https://www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/about-hiv/hiv-statistics Are any of these current statistics resulting from ‘Fab straight’ men…..? Maybe if may have some impact but then the fab straight guys who hide thier sexuality are also far more likely to take risks and not know thier HIV status be on prep to stay protected and then sadly go home to infect there wife / GF. Far more Openly bi-sexual and gay men these days take thier sexual seriously in terms of testing and prep provention. It's just a shame outdate views and stereotyping stops more of the fab straight to be honest. All the statistics show that a significant number of infections (the majority these days) happens in the hetro group that's just the facts. KJ Therein lies the issue; out of those statistics, how many ticked the ‘straight’ box because they didn’t want to admit they are bi/closet gay……? I prefer to not meet those who play with openly bi guys. I have no control on meeting people who have met people who aren’t as honest with their profiles though I'm guessing you are saying you wouldn't meet a women who has previously met a openly bi male? I.e the group most likely to test regularly and take prep to prevent contracting hiv. Yet guaranteed many of your previously female meets will have meet fab straight males i.e those who are least likely to test and take prep therefore presenting a much greater risk. KJ " That’s exactly what I said……bud | |||
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