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By *efree OP   Man
over a year ago

North Staffs

WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage.

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By *nfieldishCouple
over a year ago

Enfield

Possibly..educated...so no common folk for them?....middle class,so no council flat meets?..and of course they are cleaner than the working classes.......(tugs forelock...)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's mean plenty to some and nothing to others.

Personally, I wouldn't wish to meet anyone who felt they were better than someone else because of the job they hold, the salary they earn, the material wealth they have acquired or how they feel they fit into society compared to the next man.

Others do and that is there choice and preference. Not really worth getting worked up over.

There are '000's of profiles here. If the ones that contain the word 'professional' make you shiver, then go and look at another.

Top tip for Thursday in the forums :

Stay off the coffee and drink herbal tea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. "

I think professional means services are rendered in return for payment. Must check dictionary maybe I got it wrong.

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By *efree OP   Man
over a year ago

North Staffs

I must get off here and get back to my pick and spade, those turnips don't dig up themselves!

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian

i,susie,seen plenty were i think:"Professional....my arse"

You know the ones,they send messages in text speak,no greeting + show no respect.

Yes,there are some professional ppl on here but not everyone who claims to be,really is!!

It doesn't matter to us what ppl do for a living.What matters is that they friendly,non-judgemental + great fun to be with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must get off here and get back to my pick and spade, those turnips don't dig up themselves! "

Congratulations you are a professional farmer then!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It means they own a Ford Capri and sport a bubble perm hairstyle with 70s dress sense

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By *nfieldishCouple
over a year ago

Enfield


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. "
seems fair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. seems fair"

It is just a preference that we meet people similar to ourselves. It has nothing to do with money or what job they do more about personal standards.

Not sure exactly how you put that on a profile but I am sure people know what we are referring to!

How is it different than saying 'blacks only' which in our _iew is far more offensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did wonder if Professional meant payment expected or we are posh,neither one would appeal to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do think professional means different things to different people.

To some it means just having a job.

To others it means a job that requires a certain qualification, nursing etc.

To others it can mean a university education and/or a certain salary/lifestyle.

Having looked at a fair few profiles on my time here, I'd say that the people who only want to meet professional people tend to edge towards the latter.

But there's no point getting wound up about it. If they ain't gonna be interested in you then there's plenty more profiles to get wound about. Try some that say "no overweight people" and have a rant. It's Thursday after all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looking at this thread I think we are right to leave it on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is just a preference that we meet people similar to ourselves. It has nothing to do with money or what job they do more about personal standards.

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Personal standards do not always relate to someones profession or vocation though - for example, there are a lot of people out there with impeccable standards that are out of work at the moment.

There are also single mums who scrimp and save and earn what they can to provide the best balance and upbringing for their kids. This may involve not working at all or working low paid part-time 'menial' work to get the best outcome for themselves.

So by saying 'professional' what you are hoping to do is to keep away the scrotes and scroungers of the world who lack academic intelligence and the wherewithall to interact at a level more than grunting and swearing ?

You are hoping that word 'professional' keeps away the track suit wearing, dope smoking, strong lager drinking, bad teeth generation that hang round shopping centres and local hostelries of a weekday afternoon ?

That kinda thing ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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So by saying 'professional' what you are hoping to do is to keep away the scrotes and scroungers of the world who lack academic intelligence and the wherewithall to interact at a level more than grunting and swearing ?

You are hoping that word 'professional' keeps away the track suit wearing, dope smoking, strong lager drinking, bad teeth generation that hang round shopping centres and local hostelries of a weekday afternoon ?

That kinda thing ?"

Fuck, that's my best look! I've got the Vicky Pollard look down to an artform now.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

as with most similar threads, never worry what others have on their profile... if there is something that you don't like and/or find appealing, just click the next.

If people wish to say they are professional, allow them to.

you will have people popping up making judgements why they do, the same people will then say they don't judge on another thread.

just do your thing and never worry why others do theirs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I did wonder if Professional meant payment expected or we are posh,neither one would appeal to me. "

I agree, see below definition taken from dictionary.com.

adjective

1.

following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.

2.

of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession: professional studies.

3.

appropriate to a profession: professional objectivity.

4.

engaged in one of the learned professions: A lawyer is a professional person.

5.

following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime: a professional golfer. (or possibly swinger?) brackets not from dictionary.com

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We agree, as ever its a matter of preference, non offence to anybody but we look at some backgrounds in pictures and shudder. We are not rich, stuck up or snobby in any way, however we have no desire to meet , as someone else put it, the Jeremy Kyle brigade.

When we meet we enjoy lots of social interaction, as well as the swinging part. Putting "professional" merely gives an insight into the type of people we are looking for. We will happily meet "non professionals" as long as they suit our preferences.

peace and love

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

ps... you help organise parties with your friends, they are looking for professional people to attend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to gloss over the word to be honest. As said before the word has different meanings to different people.

I'm a single mum who works. I have standards which are important to me. If I read someone's profile nd I see something that I'm not happy with. I just move on to the next.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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So by saying 'professional' what you are hoping to do is to keep away the scrotes and scroungers of the world who lack academic intelligence and the wherewithall to interact at a level more than grunting and swearing ?

You are hoping that word 'professional' keeps away the track suit wearing, dope smoking, strong lager drinking, bad teeth generation that hang round shopping centres and local hostelries of a weekday afternoon ?

That kinda thing ?

Fuck, that's my best look! I've got the Vicky Pollard look down to an artform now. "

i is Vicky Pollard's twin sista i is. i luv me hurr tyed bak tite cos it mayks me face go all thin lyk a modul.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The word professional on profiles used to put me off. I don't see what someone's job/ education level has to do with sex.

However after reading threads like this I changed my mind. Now I don't just dismiss people off one word, I take the whole profile into consideration. If it's snooty we wouldn't get on so I move on. If it's friendly then maybe we would.

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By *oobsCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

It's buried in our profile that we are a 'professional couple'.

It's not how we define ourselves more how our jobs define us.

It is a recognition that we can be struck off for inappropriate behaviour and whilst we don't feel our life here is fine others may not. So we are less open about things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. seems fair

It is just a preference that we meet people similar to ourselves. It has nothing to do with money or what job they do more about personal standards.

Not sure exactly how you put that on a profile but I am sure people know what we are referring to!

How is it different than saying 'blacks only' which in our _iew is far more offensive."

How is that more offensive? surely personal preference is ones prerogative, no matter what the proletariat say? I have seen many profiles that ask only for black men to reply, should I find that offensive because I am white?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It could mean that you have a job that comes with a code of ethics and doing things like swinging means you could get some stick

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By *mileyBWoman
over a year ago

Northwood

I think some people use that word as a lazy way of saying .....

'I do work hard for a living and I'm quite clever and interesting and can string a sentence together and i don't sit at home all day snurging on the internet and wanking' ... perhaps?

Which is better said by just spending a little time describing what makes them interesting and fun people to be around instead of reading 'professional couple' and imagining them in some stuffy office sitting at a computer snurging on the internet and wanking

No going to duck waiting for all the struggling 'professional' job seekers to hurl abuse at me. No offence meant btw.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. seems fair

It is just a preference that we meet people similar to ourselves. It has nothing to do with money or what job they do more about personal standards.

Not sure exactly how you put that on a profile but I am sure people know what we are referring to!

How is it different than saying 'blacks only' which in our _iew is far more offensive."

I agree with this. Why people seem to take things quite so literally always surprises me.

When people describe themselves as professional, they arent solely making a statement about their careers, it is about the type of people they wish to meet.

The 'Jeremy Kyle generation' whilst a harsh assessment is actually quite accurate. I have nothing in common with certain people, I dont meet people who brash, uncouth, swear, drink etc. Yes that makes me a boring stuck up my own arse type of person in their assessent, but this just heightens the fact that we are not suited doesnt it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It could mean that you have a job that comes with a code of ethics and doing things like swinging means you could get some stick "

Hit the nail on the head! x

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. seems fair

It is just a preference that we meet people similar to ourselves. It has nothing to do with money or what job they do more about personal standards.

Not sure exactly how you put that on a profile but I am sure people know what we are referring to!

How is it different than saying 'blacks only' which in our _iew is far more offensive.

I agree with this. Why people seem to take things quite so literally always surprises me.

When people describe themselves as professional, they arent solely making a statement about their careers, it is about the type of people they wish to meet.

The 'Jeremy Kyle generation' whilst a harsh assessment is actually quite accurate. I have nothing in common with certain people, I dont meet people who brash, uncouth, swear, drink etc. Yes that makes me a boring stuck up my own arse type of person in their assessent, but this just heightens the fact that we are not suited doesnt it "

I can say no more than 'ditto'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think "professional black man " is more comical:-do they get paid for being black??

Don't you find it amusing how many "professionals" on here can't spell proffessionnnal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wierdly I like to see people describe themselves as professionals - mainly due to the fact that I take this as them meaning that they are not 'chavvy', they look after there image and they and there homes are clean - anyone else with me? Also if you didn't notice I like 'proffessionals' as I would say I am one too xxx

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By *an and wifeyCouple
over a year ago

n lincs

We have not been swinging long and did wonder what professional did actually mean lol

me and Wifey are low scum working class not much money loads of kids don't live in a mansion but we are a fun couple we have been told we are a sexy ish couple lol we definitely are not the Jeremy Kyle sort .and all we look for is sexy people for sexy fun and frolic.s simple as that professional or not.

We either like the look of you or wee don't just as you like the look of us or don't just. No offence meant and no offence taken.

so happy swinging to all you professional people and happy swinging to you not so professional peeps

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By *efree OP   Man
over a year ago

North Staffs

It's amazing how easy it is to stir things up on here, I'm not wound up about it at all, it's just that it doesn't really mean anything at all as can be seen from the previous posts it means different things to different folks

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By *endoverbeckyWoman
over a year ago

dublin

professional bullshitters is all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If one does not know what it means then one is unlikely to fit their requirements, IMHO.

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By *ohnandLucyCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle

It raises a smile when you see "professional" on the profile but it's spelt incorrectly....

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By *pium2012Couple
over a year ago

birmingham

[Removed by poster at 13/12/12 14:07:15]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not that it bothers me, if people put 'professional' on their profile...however, if it means that they will only meet people they consider 'professional', then so be it...

what it should not mean is that they look down upon other people and judge

I can sit and converse to most 'levels' of education(its part of my nature, and used in many people facing roles I've been in)

there are barriers to communication, that even 'professional' people suffer from...either through their lack of tact or sheer elitism.I've met doctors ,lawyers etc etc...with really poor communication skills..however having a nice fanny always helped get past those issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wierdly I like to see people describe themselves as professionals - mainly due to the fact that I take this as them meaning that they are not 'chavvy', they look after there image and they and there homes are clean - anyone else with me? Also if you didn't notice I like 'proffessionals' as I would say I am one too xxx"

Right I'm going to nit pick now as this has got right on my jabber and I have nothing more constructive to say.

It's "THEIR image" and "THEIR homes"

Grrrrr....:-/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional, I would say you get paid for a type of work you supply.

Do you talk about work when you are having sex in a club or where ever?

When you are naked and having fun, does matter if someone wears Armani or Primark when getting dressed after?

I would have thought that someones personality would outweigh their occupation, not their self labelled social standing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It might not matter so much in a club, even though we will socialise first before playing, however when we are inviting people to our own home we have some standards we are looking for. We don't want any Tom, Dick or Sally coming to our home. As we have said before people don't have to be professional, however we will flag that we are to attract similar couples and individuals, then we will chat and if we get along, play.

Can't understand why people get hung up on others preferences. Live and let live, we all like something different, it makes us human.

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By *efree OP   Man
over a year ago

North Staffs

I've got it! Professional means they have to wear false beard and glasses to shop in Aldi and use M&S carrier bags

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

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Drink less coffee and have a massage. "

pmsl

The tem appears lots of times and is a bit odd in the context of a sex dating/swingers site ....conjures up all sort of ideas lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strange that those who don't class themselves as professional seem far more hung up about it than those that do.

It seems to me that some people want to take this as a perceived sleight, even if it is not intended to be.

My guess is the term is used by different people for a vast number of reasons. Many highlighted already by many wise people in this post.

I believe it is a statement about the person(s) posting - not a filter to exclude those who may not be classed in the same way.

I think it simply lets people know that this person or couple has a career or profession.

There are certain assumptions you can make from that if you like - but why run the risk of doing so and coming to the wrong conclusion?

Why not just message them and find out? You may be pleasantly surprised to find that the perceived cognoscenti would deign to have a frolic or two with the unwashed proletariat.

However, if some people _iew seeing "professional" on a profile as a measure towards exclusivity in ALL cases, then they need to ask themselves why they feel that and who is really doing the prejudging here.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Strange that those who don't class themselves as professional seem far more hung up about it than those that do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange that those who don't class themselves as professional seem far more hung up about it than those that do.

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Now see, some people looking in would no doubt regard me to be 'professional' - I have the career, the education, the standards, the material assets etc that those people would use to measure such judgement.

Maybe I am - but I wouldn't care to define myself by such standards, just as I wouldn't define other people by them.

As I said in an earlier post, it is a matter of personal choice and judgement on who we choose to meet and why we choose to meet them.

Their 'standing' in society for me would be quite low in the list of priorities, however their behaviour and attitude both before and during a meet would be quite near the top.

I don't necessarily see the link between behaviour and attitude and professionalism, but I can see why others may choose too.

That is their choice. It is the associated judgements based on someones lifetsyle or situation at that time that I personally find hard to digest.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Possibly..educated...so no common folk for them?....middle class,so no council flat meets?..and of course they are cleaner than the working classes.......(tugs forelock...)"
wouldnt "TUGS FORESKIN" be more appropriate ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think any of it matters when you're stood there naked at a meet to be honest.

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think any of it matters when you're stood there naked at a meet to be honest.

Wolf

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Does it not ?

I always ask for a copy of their CV whilst they go and get changed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think any of it matters when you're stood there naked at a meet to be honest.

Wolf

Does it not ?

I always ask for a copy of their CV whilst they go and get changed "

No it doesn't. Being naked is a great leveller.

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. "

we met a professional couple once

just think alkaline that money just to live together

x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I use it here I guess by professional I mean I have a job that pays well, appreciate intellect over looks and dislike text speak.

In a club I play with whoever takes my fancy (provided that I take theirs!)

Reading it on a profile makes me assume that if we meet

A)it won't be a seedy back of the car fuck

B) their kids won't be in the house

C) we will have some conversation above and beyond 'ohhh fuck that feels good' (tho I expect that too...)

There are always exceptions to the rules tho. Its the same with all subjective descriptions. Tall dark and handsome sometimes means 5'11", brunette and attractive...it can also mean 6'7 Michael jordanesque Adonis. Professional here can mean clean and smart and polite, it can mean the local police superintendent, it can mean a hooker with manolos...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. "

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By *uxtapositionMan
over a year ago

CARDIFF

it means you are Bodie and Doyle - ooops showing my age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange that those who don't class themselves as professional seem far more hung up about it than those that do.

Now see, some people looking in would no doubt regard me to be 'professional' - I have the career, the education, the standards, the material assets etc that those people would use to measure such judgement.

Maybe I am - but I wouldn't care to define myself by such standards, just as I wouldn't define other people by them.

As I said in an earlier post, it is a matter of personal choice and judgement on who we choose to meet and why we choose to meet them.

Their 'standing' in society for me would be quite low in the list of priorities, however their behaviour and attitude both before and during a meet would be quite near the top.

I don't necessarily see the link between behaviour and attitude and professionalism, but I can see why others may choose too.

That is their choice. It is the associated judgements based on someones lifetsyle or situation at that time that I personally find hard to digest."

This is important:

'however their behaviour and attitude both before and during a meet'.

Now if somebody can come up with another phrase that will relate to or be more suitable than 'professional' we will be happy to hear it. Unfortunately unless we write a long description of the demographic we are seeking 'professional' will have to do.

Oh and there are some people who have posted on this thread demonstrating serious chips on their shoulders!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I use it here I guess by professional I mean I have a job that pays well, appreciate intellect over looks and dislike text speak.

In a club I play with whoever takes my fancy (provided that I take theirs!)

Reading it on a profile makes me assume that if we meet

A)it won't be a seedy back of the car fuck

B) their kids won't be in the house

C) we will have some conversation above and beyond 'ohhh fuck that feels good' (tho I expect that too...)

There are always exceptions to the rules tho. Its the same with all subjective descriptions. Tall dark and handsome sometimes means 5'11", brunette and attractive...it can also mean 6'7 Michael jordanesque Adonis. Professional here can mean clean and smart and polite, it can mean the local police superintendent, it can mean a hooker with manolos...

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We are with you on those points!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange that those who don't class themselves as professional seem far more hung up about it than those that do.

It seems to me that some people want to take this as a perceived sleight, even if it is not intended to be."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazing how easy it is to stir things up on here, I'm not wound up about it at all, it's just that it doesn't really mean anything at all as can be seen from the previous posts it means different things to different folks "

I must've misunderstood your OP when you said 'rant over' then. Far from you not being wound up about it at all, I took that to mean it annoyed you to the point of needing to 'rant' about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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This is important:

'however their behaviour and attitude both before and during a meet'.

Now if somebody can come up with another phrase that will relate to or be more suitable than 'professional' we will be happy to hear it. Unfortunately unless we write a long description of the demographic we are seeking 'professional' will have to do.

Oh and there are some people who have posted on this thread demonstrating serious chips on their shoulders! "

But your profile states that you are professionals (as part of a wider description of your situation)

It doesn't state anywhere you are looking for professionals - or even the well worn 'like minded' people for that matter.

So, being entirely hypothetical, if I was of the Jeremy Kyle mould, I may still message you thinking that you might fancy a play with a 'bit o'ruff' : that whilst you are professionals, other professionals are not the only group you seek - or people who are in a similar position to yourselves.

Only by reading this thread would I have any real idea that I would be likely to be excluded from any meets with you due to my lower social standing and fuckwit status.

I am not saying that any of what you write is wrong or that I wish to challenge your judgements, choices or preferences, but the demographic which you state openly here is merely intimated in your profile.

To that end, is it effective in deterring those you may not wish to meet or do you still rely on your own system of post message interaction to determine who you eventually meet ?

If that is the case, is the 'professional' status really required, or, is it there to attract other people of a like minded nature who may make similar judgements on the inclusion of one word that this thread has determined is open to both interpretation and abuse ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. "

In general they are implying they are Educated, financially solvent in a career not a job. I really don't see the issue if people want to use it then that's their affair and its their profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

This is important:

'however their behaviour and attitude both before and during a meet'.

Now if somebody can come up with another phrase that will relate to or be more suitable than 'professional' we will be happy to hear it. Unfortunately unless we write a long description of the demographic we are seeking 'professional' will have to do.

Oh and there are some people who have posted on this thread demonstrating serious chips on their shoulders!

But your profile states that you are professionals (as part of a wider description of your situation)

It doesn't state anywhere you are looking for professionals - or even the well worn 'like minded' people for that matter.

So, being entirely hypothetical, if I was of the Jeremy Kyle mould, I may still message you thinking that you might fancy a play with a 'bit o'ruff' : that whilst you are professionals, other professionals are not the only group you seek - or people who are in a similar position to yourselves.

Only by reading this thread would I have any real idea that I would be likely to be excluded from any meets with you due to my lower social standing and fuckwit status.

I am not saying that any of what you write is wrong or that I wish to challenge your judgements, choices or preferences, but the demographic which you state openly here is merely intimated in your profile.

To that end, is it effective in deterring those you may not wish to meet or do you still rely on your own system of post message interaction to determine who you eventually meet ?

If that is the case, is the 'professional' status really required, or, is it there to attract other people of a like minded nature who may make similar judgements on the inclusion of one word that this thread has determined is open to both interpretation and abuse ?"

We are too polite to do anything than intimate. If people message us we think unsuitable we simply say 'no thanks' (but we do always reply).

Incidentally the content of your message and the fact that you are willing to describe yourself as a 'fuckwit' clearly demonstrates that you do not think of yourself as such!

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage.

In general they are implying they are Educated, financially solvent in a career not a job. I really don't see the issue if people want to use it then that's their affair and its their profile. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. "

professional pompers Twats P P T

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. seems fair

It is just a preference that we meet people similar to ourselves. It has nothing to do with money or what job they do more about personal standards.

Not sure exactly how you put that on a profile but I am sure people know what we are referring to!

How is it different than saying 'blacks only' which in our _iew is far more offensive.

How is that more offensive? surely personal preference is ones prerogative, no matter what the proletariat say? I have seen many profiles that ask only for black men to reply, should I find that offensive because I am white? "

I think it is far more controversial because you are selecting people purely on their skin colour rather than who they are. How can that be right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It could mean that you have a job that comes with a code of ethics and doing things like swinging means you could get some stick

Hit the nail on the head! x"

Thank you lovely lady x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. professional pompers Twats P P T"

I think you might mean pompous. Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The forums never cease to amaze. The same people that have an obvious problem with the word "professional", remembering it's JUST a word, outline a similar trait on their profiles. e.g no bi males or people that play with bi males, age, size, colour, whatever. Get over it, everyone is entitled to their preferences. If you dont like ours, I wont lose any sleep over it, just as I don't with your "restrictions".

It's simple really.

Yours

a "professional couple" proud to be professional. Professional, now thats a great word. Professional.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazing how easy it is to stir things up on here, I'm not wound up about it at all, "

Not even a teensy weensy bit?


" Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The mention of the word "professional" on a profile to us = "status conscious asshole".

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By *orset manMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Love the term ' the Jeremy Kyle' brigade and we know there are a lot of it about- most of us understand what being a professional means - it means they, dare I say we claim to be able to string a few sentences together( and if I have done a typo I really don't care)

If you want call yourself a bin man, electrician , mechanic, whatever that's fine And is no more or less a member of society than the profs.

I suspect whoever has a hang up on this has a problem with private number plates

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By *orset manMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Love the term ' the Jeremy Kyle' brigade and we know there are a lot of it about- most of us understand what being a professional means - it means they, dare I say we claim to be able to string a few sentences together( and if I have done a typo I really don't care)

If you want call yourself a bin man, electrician , mechanic, whatever that's fine And is no more or less a member of society than the profs.

I suspect whoever has a hang up on this has a problem with private number plates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People that have poor grammar or punctuation? Simpletons to us. See how easy it is to generalise?

just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone said that professional means different things to different people and that is no doubt true. But what does it matter? I have a small business and my hubby is a manager in a large company, does that make us professional? in essence who really cares, we don't, we're just us, a friendly Welsh couple here for occasional fun times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. professional pompers Twats P P T

I think you might mean pompous. Just saying."

...some days on here pampers would be more appropriate.

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. professional pompers Twats P P T

I think you might mean pompous. Just saying.

...some days on here pampers would be more appropriate.

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The forums never cease to amaze. The same people that have an obvious problem with the word "professional", remembering it's JUST a word, outline a similar trait on their profiles. e.g no bi males or people that play with bi males, age, size, colour, whatever. Get over it, everyone is entitled to their preferences. If you dont like ours, I wont lose any sleep over it, just as I don't with your "restrictions".

It's simple really.

Yours

a "professional couple" proud to be professional. Professional, now thats a great word. Professional. "

After reading this thread I might put the word in bold, italics and upper case. It seems to be kryptonite to the people we don't want looking.

PS I do have a private number plate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't have a private plate, as an Alfa owner your bumper isn't attached to the car long enough to have a numberplate!

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By *picer07Woman
over a year ago

CARDIFF


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation.

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By *picer07Woman
over a year ago

CARDIFF


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation.

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By *picer07Woman
over a year ago

CARDIFF


"It means they own a Ford Capri and sport a bubble perm hairstyle with 70s dress sense "

That made me smile. thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just won on the lottery...professional now????..ok...it was a quid

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation. "

But what if you are middle class but like watching Jeremy Kyle ??? x

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

My ex is a professional bastard, does that count ?

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By *iker BullMan
over a year ago

leeds

It means,I am morgaged up to the hilt,and own an expensive car,,albiet on the chucky ,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i'M a Profeshinal but ma wife isnt, duz dat meen ul meat me but nut ma wife/:d

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is on our profile and yes we put that because we have no interest in the Jeremy Kyle generation.

But what if you are middle class but like watching Jeremy Kyle ??? x"

That is the same principle as watching the old Victorian sideshow freaks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i'M a Profeshinal but ma wife isnt, duz dat meen ul meat me but nut ma wife/:d"

I like her unprofessional boobage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My ex is a professional bastard, does that count ?"
..that does count yes well said,The Bastard

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

Very true, i know it is car crash TV but whenever you think life is hard, just watch the state of the JK lot, it does make me laugh, i would be amazed if too many people took it seriously !

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield


"My ex is a professional bastard, does that count ?..that does count yes well said,The Bastard "

LOL, if there was a title above professional bastard then he would be , maybe Sir Bastard or Lord Bastard !

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"We have not been swinging long and did wonder what professional did actually mean lol

me and Wifey are low scum working class not much money loads of kids don't live in a mansion but we are a fun couple we have been told we are a sexy ish couple lol we definitely are not the Jeremy Kyle sort .and all we look for is sexy people for sexy fun and frolic.s simple as that professional or not.

We either like the look of you or wee don't just as you like the look of us or don't just. No offence meant and no offence taken.

so happy swinging to all you professional people and happy swinging to you not so professional peeps "

Who says working class are scum? At what point does someone saying they prefer professional people mean they consider anyone working class to be scum?

I am professional - I am also working class. I own my own home - but live on a council estate. I like to go to the theatre - but I shop in Aldi.

There are people on here who accuse others of being 'snobs' when they are, not meaning the poster, actually 'inverted snobs' themselves.

People have preferences. Simple as. For some people having a connection is important when swinging - that is one way they try to ensure there will be one. For others that is irrelevant.

So what? Who cares? If anyone is put off by someone's profile which mentions 'professionals' then they are obviously not suited and just need to move on to the next one. What's the big deal?

It is almost as if people have to apologise for preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Very true, i know it is car crash TV but whenever you think life is hard, just watch the state of the JK lot, it does make me laugh, i would be amazed if too many people took it seriously !"

but it always shows us glaswegians up as twats!!!!,,,

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield


"Very true, i know it is car crash TV but whenever you think life is hard, just watch the state of the JK lot, it does make me laugh, i would be amazed if too many people took it seriously !

but it always shows us glaswegians up as twats!!!!,,,"

I think it has an even spread of idiots all over the country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. "

Come on its pretty obvious what it means. If you object then read the next profile. If you feel inadequate also move on. But don't bother to raise yet another rant in here.

HAppy swinging xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have not been swinging long and did wonder what professional did actually mean lol

me and Wifey are low scum working class not much money loads of kids don't live in a mansion but we are a fun couple we have been told we are a sexy ish couple lol we definitely are not the Jeremy Kyle sort .and all we look for is sexy people for sexy fun and frolic.s simple as that professional or not.

We either like the look of you or wee don't just as you like the look of us or don't just. No offence meant and no offence taken.

so happy swinging to all you professional people and happy swinging to you not so professional peeps

Who says working class are scum? At what point does someone saying they prefer professional people mean they consider anyone working class to be scum?

I am professional - I am also working class. I own my own home - but live on a council estate. I like to go to the theatre - but I shop in Aldi.

There are people on here who accuse others of being 'snobs' when they are, not meaning the poster, actually 'inverted snobs' themselves.

People have preferences. Simple as. For some people having a connection is important when swinging - that is one way they try to ensure there will be one. For others that is irrelevant.

So what? Who cares? If anyone is put off by someone's profile which mentions 'professionals' then they are obviously not suited and just need to move on to the next one. What's the big deal?

It is almost as if people have to apologise for preferences. "

We shop in Aldi. Very nice meats, cheeses and wine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now no accusing me of jumping on the bandwagon, but we quite often pop into Aldi too, down with Tesco lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wierdly I like to see people describe themselves as professionals - mainly due to the fact that I take this as them meaning that they are not 'chavvy', they look after there image and they and there homes are clean - anyone else with me? Also if you didn't notice I like 'proffessionals' as I would say I am one too xxx"

Hopefully spelling isn't part of your profession

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually pop into lidl and aldi cos its fun seeing what odd stuff they have this week.

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By *oobsCouple
over a year ago

cardiff


"Actually pop into lidl and aldi cos its fun seeing what odd stuff they have this week. "

Love em both where else can you see 4 generations of the same family buying White Lightening in their pyjamas while you stock up on balsamic, olive oil, smoked salmon various European cheeses and cooked meats all at stupidly cheap prices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Actually pop into lidl and aldi cos its fun seeing what odd stuff they have this week.

Love em both where else can you see 4 generations of the same family buying White Lightening in their pyjamas while you stock up on balsamic, olive oil, smoked salmon various European cheeses and cooked meats all at stupidly cheap prices. "

.. are you painted up as Harley Quinn on your profile? Never seen that before!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

What about if a heart surgeon (obviously well paid and educated) decided to do some charity work for a few weeks as a payback to society and changed their profile in those few weeks from 'professional' to 'charity worker' - clearly from the above imaginary example, one would find one cutting ones nose off to spite ones face, wouldn't one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have not been swinging long and did wonder what professional did actually mean lol

me and Wifey are low scum working class not much money loads of kids don't live in a mansion but we are a fun couple we have been told we are a sexy ish couple lol we definitely are not the Jeremy Kyle sort .and all we look for is sexy people for sexy fun and frolic.s simple as that professional or not.

We either like the look of you or wee don't just as you like the look of us or don't just. No offence meant and no offence taken.

so happy swinging to all you professional people and happy swinging to you not so professional peeps "

Best post!

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By *illycarrolCouple
over a year ago

n/cle on tyne

MPs and bankers class themselves as professionals, says it all really

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

What about pathologists?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We agree, as ever its a matter of preference, non offence to anybody but we look at some backgrounds in pictures and shudder. We are not rich, stuck up or snobby in any way, however we have no desire to meet , as someone else put it, the Jeremy Kyle brigade.

When we meet we enjoy lots of social interaction, as well as the swinging part. Putting "professional" merely gives an insight into the type of people we are looking for. We will happily meet "non professionals" as long as they suit our preferences.

peace and love "

Is it only professional people who have nice, clean houses then? My sister lives next door to a couple who are both doctors and their house is a shit tip. I'm a single working mom living in a housing association house and my house is a little palace.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the men i meet who have professional on their profile are usually inteligent, smart and know how to behave, not snobby either.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"the men i meet who have professional on their profile are usually inteligent, smart and know how to behave, not snobby either."

The women I meet who have professional on their profile are ALWAYS intelligent, smart and know how to behave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have not been swinging long and did wonder what professional did actually mean lol

me and Wifey are low scum working class not much money loads of kids don't live in a mansion but we are a fun couple we have been told we are a sexy ish couple lol we definitely are not the Jeremy Kyle sort .and all we look for is sexy people for sexy fun and frolic.s simple as that professional or not.

We either like the look of you or wee don't just as you like the look of us or don't just. No offence meant and no offence taken.

so happy swinging to all you professional people and happy swinging to you not so professional peeps

Who says working class are scum? At what point does someone saying they prefer professional people mean they consider anyone working class to be scum?

I am professional - I am also working class. I own my own home - but live on a council estate. I like to go to the theatre - but I shop in Aldi.

There are people on here who accuse others of being 'snobs' when they are, not meaning the poster, actually 'inverted snobs' themselves.

People have preferences. Simple as. For some people having a connection is important when swinging - that is one way they try to ensure there will be one. For others that is irrelevant.

So what? Who cares? If anyone is put off by someone's profile which mentions 'professionals' then they are obviously not suited and just need to move on to the next one. What's the big deal?

It is almost as if people have to apologise for preferences. "

I also work and pay a mortgage and my nice tidy clean house is slap bang in the middle of a council estate, wouldn't live anywhere else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have not been swinging long and did wonder what professional did actually mean lol

me and Wifey are low scum working class not much money loads of kids don't live in a mansion but we are a fun couple we have been told we are a sexy ish couple lol we definitely are not the Jeremy Kyle sort .and all we look for is sexy people for sexy fun and frolic.s simple as that professional or not.

We either like the look of you or wee don't just as you like the look of us or don't just. No offence meant and no offence taken.

so happy swinging to all you professional people and happy swinging to you not so professional peeps

Who says working class are scum? At what point does someone saying they prefer professional people mean they consider anyone working class to be scum?

I am professional - I am also working class. I own my own home - but live on a council estate. I like to go to the theatre - but I shop in Aldi.

There are people on here who accuse others of being 'snobs' when they are, not meaning the poster, actually 'inverted snobs' themselves.

People have preferences. Simple as. For some people having a connection is important when swinging - that is one way they try to ensure there will be one. For others that is irrelevant.

So what? Who cares? If anyone is put off by someone's profile which mentions 'professionals' then they are obviously not suited and just need to move on to the next one. What's the big deal?

It is almost as if people have to apologise for preferences. "

Love this post "what what " posh voice

Now where is my Dodo egg on toast lol

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"We have not been swinging long and did wonder what professional did actually mean lol

me and Wifey are low scum working class not much money loads of kids don't live in a mansion but we are a fun couple we have been told we are a sexy ish couple lol we definitely are not the Jeremy Kyle sort .and all we look for is sexy people for sexy fun and frolic.s simple as that professional or not.

We either like the look of you or wee don't just as you like the look of us or don't just. No offence meant and no offence taken.

so happy swinging to all you professional people and happy swinging to you not so professional peeps

Who says working class are scum? At what point does someone saying they prefer professional people mean they consider anyone working class to be scum?

I am professional - I am also working class. I own my own home - but live on a council estate. I like to go to the theatre - but I shop in Aldi.

There are people on here who accuse others of being 'snobs' when they are, not meaning the poster, actually 'inverted snobs' themselves.

People have preferences. Simple as. For some people having a connection is important when swinging - that is one way they try to ensure there will be one. For others that is irrelevant.

So what? Who cares? If anyone is put off by someone's profile which mentions 'professionals' then they are obviously not suited and just need to move on to the next one. What's the big deal?

It is almost as if people have to apologise for preferences.

Love this post "what what " posh voice

Now where is my Dodo egg on toast lol"

The only time I say 'what what' is when I can't hear what people are saying.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

there is a definition laid down in parliament of what a professional is ,and its nothing to do with income or swinging lol, fail to see why people think its at all relevant to swinging ,in fact if they use the term ,they probably aren't ..

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

What about people who say they are professional carpet cleaners?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"What about people who say they are professional carpet cleaners?"

What's a 'professional carpet'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on their definition of "professionals" i suppose.

Just for the record though.We've come across just as many "professional" types

that meet the Jeremy Kyle show criteria as we have amongst the great unwashed masses!!

Must go now.Got to feed the pitbull and get some more tattoos.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

The funniest ones are the 'proffesionals' who are sooooo well educated and professional they cant even spell the feckin word!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The funniest ones are the 'proffesionals' who are sooooo well educated and professional they cant even spell the feckin word!

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but even professionals make spelling mistakes dont they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What what

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"there is a definition laid down in parliament of what a professional is ,and its nothing to do with income or swinging lol, fail to see why people think its at all relevant to swinging ,in fact if they use the term ,they probably aren't .."

I use the term and most definitely am.

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By *andd2Couple
over a year ago

The Dungeon

Not all professionals think they are better than us, not all rich folk look down on us. We have met and still meet several times a year, via another site that contains the word 'date' and 'club', a couple who live on the edge of Windsor. Their entrance hall is bigger than our entire house. But, not once, have they ever looked down on us, or treated us less than themselves. We sometimes stay over, get invited to their vanilla parties etc.

Don't tar everyone with the same brush ok?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"What about people who say they are professional carpet cleaners?

What's a 'professional carpet'?"

You know: they are well made, quality material, fit into corners nicely, look good, spilt drinks mop up easily off them, warm, soft, comfortable and you SO want to roll around on them.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I always understood a professional to be one of those listing as being able to sign a passport application for someone.

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By *oobsCouple
over a year ago

cardiff


"Actually pop into lidl and aldi cos its fun seeing what odd stuff they have this week.

Love em both where else can you see 4 generations of the same family buying White Lightening in their pyjamas while you stock up on balsamic, olive oil, smoked salmon various European cheeses and cooked meats all at stupidly cheap prices.

.. are you painted up as Harley Quinn on your profile? Never seen that before!"

Yes that's Mrs Noobs as Harley Quinn, we painted it on cam in the chat rooms.

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over a year ago


"Not all professionals think they are better than us, not all rich folk look down on us. We have met and still meet several times a year, via another site that contains the word 'date' and 'club', a couple who live on the edge of Windsor. Their entrance hall is bigger than our entire house. But, not once, have they ever looked down on us, or treated us less than themselves. We sometimes stay over, get invited to their vanilla parties etc.

Don't tar everyone with the same brush ok? "

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By *efree OP   Man
over a year ago

North Staffs

My company is based on the edge of Windsor it's a tiny Hamlet call called Slough! A delightful place

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"there is a definition laid down in parliament of what a professional is ,and its nothing to do with income or swinging lol, fail to see why people think its at all relevant to swinging ,in fact if they use the term ,they probably aren't ..

I use the term and most definitely am. "

Ok i accept you are ,but the op raises an interesting point, when the legal definition of being a professional (as listed below) and has been defined by parliament.How is it relevant to set it in context of being a suitable person for swinging,is it a signal of financial security or perhaps a safe bet or a "nicer" type of person ?

i fail to see the relevance in terms of attractiveness or even how it could be construed as relevant in selecting partners,you may as well put your a free mason or a member of the buffaloes

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The nine obligations to the public are these:

• First, the profession must be controlled by a governing body which in professional matters directs the

behaviour of its members.

• Secondly, the governing body must set adequate standards of education as a condition of entry and

thereafter ensure that students obtain an acceptable standard of professional competence. Training and

education ... continue throughout the member's professional life.

• Thirdly, the governing body must set the ethical rules and professional standards which are to be

observed by the members. They should be higher than those established by the general law.

• Fourthly, the rules and standards enforced by the governing body should be designed for the benefit of

the public and not for the private advantage of the members.

• Fifthly, the governing body must take disciplinary action, if necessary, expulsion from membership

should the rules and standards it lays down not be observed or should a member be guilty of bad

professional work.

• Sixthly, work is often reserved to a profession by statute - not because it was for the advantage of the

members but because, for the protection of the public, it should be carried out only by persons with the

requisite training, standards and disciplines.

• Seventhly, the governing body must satisfy itself that there is fair and open competition in the practice

of the profession ...

• Eighth, the members of the profession, whether in practice or in employment, must be independent in

thought and outlook. They must not allow themselves to be put under the control or dominance of

any person or organization which could impair that independence.

• Ninth, in its specific field of learning, a profession must give leadership to the public it serves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow, and we thought we needed to get a life

Just a professional joke

Look our final thought is, we consider ourselves professional, if you don't like it or feel it threatens you in any way, we don't really care! It's our profile, jog on by if you don't like it. Why should we adhere to the opinion of another ? Cest la vie.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"there is a definition laid down in parliament of what a professional is ,and its nothing to do with income or swinging lol, fail to see why people think its at all relevant to swinging ,in fact if they use the term ,they probably aren't ..

I use the term and most definitely am.

Ok i accept you are ,but the op raises an interesting point, when the legal definition of being a professional (as listed below) and has been defined by parliament.How is it relevant to set it in context of being a suitable person for swinging,is it a signal of financial security or perhaps a safe bet or a "nicer" type of person ?

i fail to see the relevance in terms of attractiveness or even how it could be construed as relevant in selecting partners,you may as well put your a free mason or a member of the buffaloes"

Construing whether it is relevant or not is not up to others but the person who created the profile. It is not up to others to determine what they choose to right, how they choose to meet, who they choose to meet, etc.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

*choose to write

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is that the end now?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"Wow, and we thought we needed to get a life

Just a professional joke

Look our final thought is, we consider ourselves professional, if you don't like it or feel it threatens you in any way, we don't really care! It's our profile, jog on by if you don't like it. Why should we adhere to the opinion of another ? Cest la vie."

No it doesn't threaten me why would it,

but do you think it differentiates you from non professionals,would you meet non professionals ?

Do you use it as a measure of intelligence or public standing ?

You and anyone else can put whatever you like in your profiles and i would defend it to the hilt and yes i am in a profession too

I just wonder how being in a profession could possibly have an effect either way,unless you use it as part of your selection criteria for meets ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obviously not.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"Obviously not. "

no need to hang around there's other threads if your not interested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not interested anymore? Neither are we. Yawn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people can't read previous posts on the subject outlining why we put "professional" on our profile, or even read it and understand it within the context of our profile it gets repetitive and boring.

Having fun, leaves this room for good. In an orderly and professional manner.

Adios xx

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Does anyone know a good carpet cleaner?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me too. Adios amigos !

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I always understood a professional to be one of those listing as being able to sign a passport application for someone."

That list includes 'journalist' and 'licencee of a public house' - both guaranteed to be pillars of the community.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


"I always understood a professional to be one of those listing as being able to sign a passport application for someone."

Nah...I can sign them, but im not a professional..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is just a preference that we meet people similar to ourselves. It has nothing to do with money or what job they do more about personal standards.

Personal standards do not always relate to someones profession or vocation though - for example, there are a lot of people out there with impeccable standards that are out of work at the moment.

There are also single mums who scrimp and save and earn what they can to provide the best balance and upbringing for their kids. This may involve not working at all or working low paid part-time 'menial' work to get the best outcome for themselves.

So by saying 'professional' what you are hoping to do is to keep away the scrotes and scroungers of the world who lack academic intelligence and the wherewithall to interact at a level more than grunting and swearing ?

You are hoping that word 'professional' keeps away the track suit wearing, dope smoking, strong lager drinking, bad teeth generation that hang round shopping centres and local hostelries of a weekday afternoon ?

That kinda thing ?"

Glad I did not put professional on my profile now. I just spoke the truth when I wrote. Just looking around.

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By *oulou45Woman
over a year ago

Bucks

I guess with my job I'm a professinel although need to learn to spell lol. As I'm on a late shift will watch jeremy kyle in the morning

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By *issy NickersWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

Herbal tea = professional?

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By *orset manMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Love this thread the best ever- good old class war at it's best ,I do think this terrible recession has a lot to do with the anger and prejudice - my profile says. Am a professional man ( and yes I sign passports) and don't really give a fuck .sorry professionals should not use that kind of working class language.

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By *orset manMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Love this thread the best ever- good old class war at it's best ,I do think this terrible recession has a lot to do with the anger and prejudice - my profile says. Am a professional man ( and yes I sign passports) and don't really give a fuck .sorry professionals should not use that kind of working class language.

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By *ootballPaulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

To me Professional has nothing to do with class or actual profession it just means you act professional, i.e as you would present yourself in a work situation if and when the clothes come off after some social interaction then you can lose the professional image and behave like a professional nymphomaniac.

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By *wofunlovinCouple
over a year ago

aberdeen

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By *wofunlovinCouple
over a year ago

aberdeen


"Love this thread the best ever- good old class war at it's best ,I do think this terrible recession has a lot to do with the anger and prejudice - my profile says. Am a professional man ( and yes I sign passports) and don't really give a fuck .sorry professionals should not use that kind of working class language."

Ditto - Hear hear

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Love this thread the best ever- good old class war at it's best ,I do think this terrible recession has a lot to do with the anger and prejudice - my profile says. Am a professional man ( and yes I sign passports) and don't really give a fuck .sorry professionals should not use that kind of working class language.

Ditto - Hear hear "

What if you are professional and come from the working class?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies - I am nit picky too, it is either HIM or HER x

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By *oulou45Woman
over a year ago

Bucks

I'm def workin class lol get hit smacked bitten hair pulled but love my job knowin I've helped the guys I look after just wish they were verbal they would be able to say when they were angry

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage. "

Actually it means that they are posers

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

Great thread and some good point of _iews.

Personally the word doesn't bother me, I don't find it offensive on profiles.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"WTF does that mean? Professional swingers? Or just that they only meet those above the 40% tax threshold

Rant over breathe deeply............ And relax

Drink less coffee and have a massage.

Actually it means that they are posers"

No it doesn't. Any more than those who prefer a certain ethnicity are racist. It is merely a preference. And it does not always equate to income either. It is possible to be on a low income as a professional.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looking at this thread I think we are right to leave it on!

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

I always took it to be a nice way of saying no thickos or chavs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I always understood a professional to be one of those listing as being able to sign a passport application for someone.

That list includes 'journalist' and 'licencee of a public house' - both guaranteed to be pillars of the community."

Lol love that bit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We are too polite to do anything than intimate. If people message us we think unsuitable we simply say 'no thanks' (but we do always reply).

Incidentally the content of your message and the fact that you are willing to describe yourself as a 'fuckwit' clearly demonstrates that you do not think of yourself as such!"

I wasn't referring to myself as a 'fuckwit'

The situation provided was a hypothetical one and I was using a stereotype that some would undoubtedly afford those of a lower social standing to themselves.

I wouldn't and I am not suggesting that you would, but some would !

As regards as what I consider myself to be, I am someone who is in full time employment and has had the good fortune to be in full time employment since graduating from Uni.

I have my own car and savings, I am fortunate enough to be financially fluid and I choose not to take a mortgage out. I don't live in the best of areas but again that is through choice rather than circumstance.

I can count amongst my good friends a senior director of a FTSE 100 business and several people who to coin a phrase 'ain't got a pot to piss in' and have never worked a proper day in their life.

They are treated no differently by me irregardless of their status - I laugh, joke with and love them all for their uniqueness.

When it comes down to it, for me, working, having money and having a standard of living that I am happy with merely enables me to live life how I want to.

It does not shape me as a person and both the best and worst things about me have nothing at all to do with what I have or how others choose to _iew me.

I am just me. Unique, decent, but far from perfect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are still waiting for another word to use instead of professional?

Shall we just bite the bullet and add the phrase 'No minging scabby chavs need apply' ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are still waiting for another word to use instead of professional?

Shall we just bite the bullet and add the phrase 'No minging scabby chavs need apply' ?"

Why not consider just taking the professional out and leaving it at that ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are still waiting for another word to use instead of professional?

Shall we just bite the bullet and add the phrase 'No minging scabby chavs need apply' ?

Why not consider just taking the professional out and leaving it at that ? "

Because it will need replacing by something as we get far too many unsuitable applicants already!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are still waiting for another word to use instead of professional?

Shall we just bite the bullet and add the phrase 'No minging scabby chavs need apply' ?

Why not consider just taking the professional out and leaving it at that ?

Because it will need replacing by something as we get far too many unsuitable applicants already! "

Do you think it's inclusion makes that much difference to the majority of people that message ?

From reading the posts of many a person or couple on here, I got the impression that the majority just looked at the pics thought 'oooh they're nice' and messaged ?

The profile wording simply reads 'blah, blah, blahddy. blahddy, blah, blah, I AM LOOKING FOR YOU, MESSAGE ME - NOW !'

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"We are still waiting for another word to use instead of professional?

Shall we just bite the bullet and add the phrase 'No minging scabby chavs need apply' ?

Why not consider just taking the professional out and leaving it at that ?

Because it will need replacing by something as we get far too many unsuitable applicants already!

Do you think it's inclusion makes that much difference to the majority of people that message ?

From reading the posts of many a person or couple on here, I got the impression that the majority just looked at the pics thought 'oooh they're nice' and messaged ?

The profile wording simply reads 'blah, blah, blahddy. blahddy, blah, blah, I AM LOOKING FOR YOU, MESSAGE ME - NOW !' "

Ha Ha Ha that is so true,...for years the old debate about being a professional has reared its head on the forums

People appear to not understand its relevance in terms of swinging and for some reason get edgy when its discussed.

Of course people can put what they like on their profile. But if used as a discriminator to out people of lower intelligence or even wealth and kylness, it fails totally given the true nature of the word "professional" and the standards its badge implies.

People may as well put i once had a small red kite for xmas.If people put i\we are professional\s it just means in there working life they have a governing body who's conditions they have to comply with or face expulsion.

Well hey ho, ok if people feel that's important to them in terms of desirability or attractiveness go for it,but for me its just not relevant,however i defend your right to use it if you wish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like it when they spell it 'professionel' or 'professinel'

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over a year ago


"We are still waiting for another word to use instead of professional?

Shall we just bite the bullet and add the phrase 'No minging scabby chavs need apply' ?

Why not consider just taking the professional out and leaving it at that ?

Because it will need replacing by something as we get far too many unsuitable applicants already!

Do you think it's inclusion makes that much difference to the majority of people that message ?

From reading the posts of many a person or couple on here, I got the impression that the majority just looked at the pics thought 'oooh they're nice' and messaged ?

The profile wording simply reads 'blah, blah, blahddy. blahddy, blah, blah, I AM LOOKING FOR YOU, MESSAGE ME - NOW !' "

Well yes indeed even if we put one sentence stating one thing people would still not read it. Oh the humanity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me Professional = Delete!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unsuitable Applicants" PMSL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am always surprised how this bothers some people. It's almost like they are intimidated or feel threatened by them for some reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only reason people get edgy is because they make the same sweeping, generalised and incorrect assumptions about professional people (as you can see by some of the comments on here) as they assume professionals make about 'them'.

It certainly isn't class war - there are many working class professionals and there are plenty of middle/upper classes who aren't.

The issue is perception - the word evokes strong distaste in many people as evident here. That's wrong as it is a form of prejudice and that prejudice works as much against "professional" people, as it does against those who perceive the word to be an insult against them.

However sweeping, obnoxious generalisations about people who do or do not choose to put it on their status contributes nothing to the debate other than to fuel animosity and to pander to the erroneous, judgemental beliefs on both sides of the argument.

As for a different word to use - most synonyms would either be too vague to be of any use (salaried?) or would cause even more consternation (upper/middle-class, well-off, own home and car under 3 years old in relatively comfortable area, two-holidays a year etc etc).

The word itself is fine, it's that it has so many different meanings and connotations to different people that is the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed but again looking at this thread it is having exactly right effect on the type of person we want to repel.

I am wondering what else we can put on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The mention of the word "professional" on a profile to us = "status conscious asshole".

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Drink any one??? It is time to call this off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only in Britain would being status concious be an insult. It is on par with being aspirational and wanting to better yourself.

Are you the type of people who key an expensive car? Why shouldn't people who have earned that money spend it on whatever they want?

Or is it more acceptable when people spend money that other people have earned for them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drink any one??? It is time to call this off"

live and let live x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drink any one??? It is time to call this off

live and let live x"

Mines a pint of 1967 Bollinger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drink any one??? It is time to call this off

live and let live x

Mines a pint of 1967 Bollinger. "

Sorry we only serve Dom Perignon in these parts, in a beaker like but hey ho

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield


"Drink any one??? It is time to call this off

live and let live x

Mines a pint of 1967 Bollinger.

Sorry we only serve Dom Perignon in these parts, in a beaker like but hey ho "

I can add some bottles of cognac

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"Only in Britain would being status concious be an insult. It is on par with being aspirational and wanting to better yourself.

Are you the type of people who key an expensive car? Why shouldn't people who have earned that money spend it on whatever they want?

Or is it more acceptable when people spend money that other people have earned for them?"

Although i agree that being status conscious is an aspirational right,should you choose it to be.

How does the word professional link to people who would not key a car or to wealth if it comes to that.

There are lots of people governed by a professional body who have done stupid things and ended up in prison for it, and also financially poor professionals as someone said earlier in the thread.

For me,i am trying to find out what exactly people who state they are professionals are trying to say about themselves or the people they wish to meet,I do not level criticism at them for using it,its up to them its their profile.

I and i suspect others are just trying to what is meant by it in terms of swinging, is it a value judgement in terms of moral landscape, financial security perhaps etc, because the term professional carries no information of anything, except a person works under the control of one of the 38 governing bodies in this country and therefore have to abide to a code of conduct, pertaining to there employment.

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