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"The other thing to add its all about discrimination....take me for instance.. I been looking for a female with one leg (preferably left one) and one eye (right one)to match mine so that we can at least chance each other in same direction and not in circles.... do you know how hard it is to find someone like that lol hehehehe " WHTF..... Let me know when you find one | |||
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"Just came across yet another profile that says "Only interested in white guys - Sorry not racist" I've seen this in different forms loads of times on profiles & meet listings, mostly from white swingers, and I always wonder why on earth they feel the need to qualify their racial preference with an apology & a clarification that they're not racist. I think society has moved on quite a bit & people should be more comfortable talking about racial preferences. On the other hand, profiles that say "black guys only", hardly ever follow this with an apology & are more comfortable, proud & bullish in expressing their preference." You may think society has moved on but I have received several messages from men that I have turned down (because I wasn't attracted to them) who go on to accuse me of being racist it asking me 'is it because I am black/Asian etc They were the ones who bought the race issue into our exchange, not me. Seems that they were trying to shame me into meeting them just so I wasn't classed as a racist. | |||
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"Just came across yet another profile that says "Only interested in white guys - Sorry not racist" I've seen this in different forms loads of times on profiles & meet listings, mostly from white swingers, and I always wonder why on earth they feel the need to qualify their racial preference with an apology & a clarification that they're not racist. I think society has moved on quite a bit & people should be more comfortable talking about racial preferences. On the other hand, profiles that say "black guys only", hardly ever follow this with an apology & are more comfortable, proud & bullish in expressing their preference. You may think society has moved on but I have received several messages from men that I have turned down (because I wasn't attracted to them) who go on to accuse me of being racist it asking me 'is it because I am black/Asian etc They were the ones who bought the race issue into our exchange, not me. Seems that they were trying to shame me into meeting them just so I wasn't classed as a racist. " I've had that even though I have had veris from guys of different races. Some of them have disappeared though when they left. | |||
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" .......... You may think society has moved on but I have received several messages from men that I have turned down (because I wasn't attracted to them) who go on to accuse me of being racist it asking me 'is it because I am black/Asian etc They were the ones who bought the race issue into our exchange, not me. Seems that they were trying to shame me into meeting them just so I wasn't classed as a racist. " Some people simply can't handle rejection and need it to be about something they have no control over - like the colour of their skin or their race. | |||
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" .......... You may think society has moved on but I have received several messages from men that I have turned down (because I wasn't attracted to them) who go on to accuse me of being racist it asking me 'is it because I am black/Asian etc They were the ones who bought the race issue into our exchange, not me. Seems that they were trying to shame me into meeting them just so I wasn't classed as a racist. Some people simply can't handle rejection and need it to be about something they have no control over - like the colour of their skin or their race." Couldn't agree more! It's a frequent occurrence: someone is rejected, rather than accept they are not the persons type, they attribute the rejection to race/maritial status/sexuality etc. All rather sad and pathetic in my _iew. | |||
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"I think you are taking this a bit personally. I have seen sorry we don't meet smokers, just our preference! I have actually seen ads asking for slim people only again with the sorry just our preference. Just because you are black you feel the need to bring it up and make a fuss. We have on our profile, sorry we don't meet black guys. It doesn't mean I am racist, not at all. I just know what I do and don't like. You are luckier than some in the sense that there are so many who are looking for blacks only. I have never seen a profile asking for smokers only!!" Are you sure you understood what the OP was saying, because you're totally missing the point in everything you've said. And I don't see what the OP's colour has got to do with anything or why you say he is lucky. He hasn't said you shouldn't shag who you want. The gist of what the OP is saying, from what I and I'm sure the other 20 posts above yours understand, because nobody else has been so far off the mark as you have, is that you should feel comfortable saying you only fancy white guys without feeling people will think you're racist. Those that say "black guys only" don't go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference". At least I've personally not seen any. So why do most profiles that say "white guys only" go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference" You're an example of one of the profiles the OP was referring to, so maybe you can tell us, rather than being overly sensitive and confrontational. | |||
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"I think you are taking this a bit personally. I have seen sorry we don't meet smokers, just our preference! I have actually seen ads asking for slim people only again with the sorry just our preference. Just because you are black you feel the need to bring it up and make a fuss. We have on our profile, sorry we don't meet black guys. It doesn't mean I am racist, not at all. I just know what I do and don't like. You are luckier than some in the sense that there are so many who are looking for blacks only. I have never seen a profile asking for smokers only!! Are you sure you understood what the OP was saying, because you're totally missing the point in everything you've said. And I don't see what the OP's colour has got to do with anything or why you say he is lucky. He hasn't said you shouldn't shag who you want. The gist of what the OP is saying, from what I and I'm sure the other 20 posts above yours understand, because nobody else has been so far off the mark as you have, is that you should feel comfortable saying you only fancy white guys without feeling people will think you're racist. Those that say "black guys only" don't go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference". At least I've personally not seen any. So why do most profiles that say "white guys only" go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference" You're an example of one of the profiles the OP was referring to, so maybe you can tell us, rather than being overly sensitive and confrontational." | |||
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"The other thing to add its all about discrimination....take me for instance.. I been looking for a female with one leg (preferably left one) and one eye (right one)to match mine so that we can at least chance each other in same direction and not in circles.... do you know how hard it is to find someone like that lol hehehehe " hehehehehehe!!!!! | |||
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"I think you are taking this a bit personally. I have seen sorry we don't meet smokers, just our preference! I have actually seen ads asking for slim people only again with the sorry just our preference. Just because you are black you feel the need to bring it up and make a fuss. We have on our profile, sorry we don't meet black guys. It doesn't mean I am racist, not at all. I just know what I do and don't like. You are luckier than some in the sense that there are so many who are looking for blacks only. I have never seen a profile asking for smokers only!! Are you sure you understood what the OP was saying, because you're totally missing the point in everything you've said. And I don't see what the OP's colour has got to do with anything or why you say he is lucky. He hasn't said you shouldn't shag who you want. The gist of what the OP is saying, from what I and I'm sure the other 20 posts above yours understand, because nobody else has been so far off the mark as you have, is that you should feel comfortable saying you only fancy white guys without feeling people will think you're racist. Those that say "black guys only" don't go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference". At least I've personally not seen any. So why do most profiles that say "white guys only" go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference" You're an example of one of the profiles the OP was referring to, so maybe you can tell us, rather than being overly sensitive and confrontational." you sure as hell got told | |||
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"Just came across yet another profile that says "Only interested in white guys - Sorry not racist" I've seen this in different forms loads of times on profiles & meet listings, mostly from white swingers, and I always wonder why on earth they feel the need to qualify their racial preference with an apology & a clarification that they're not racist. I think society has moved on quite a bit & people should be more comfortable talking about racial preferences. On the other hand, profiles that say "black guys only", hardly ever follow this with an apology & are more comfortable, proud & bullish in expressing their preference." Because sadly women who have said there preference is for white guys only have experienced abusive email from non white people calling them a racist. They cannot win either way. | |||
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"Plenty of ladies put on their profile BLACK ONLY...Nobody ever see them as being racist. " . Perhaps that's because it's usually coming from white females, the _iew might be a different one if the woman was also black and the 'apology' might be appropriate in such circumstamces. | |||
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"I think you are taking this a bit personally. I have seen sorry we don't meet smokers, just our preference! I have actually seen ads asking for slim people only again with the sorry just our preference. Just because you are black you feel the need to bring it up and make a fuss. We have on our profile, sorry we don't meet black guys. It doesn't mean I am racist, not at all. I just know what I do and don't like. You are luckier than some in the sense that there are so many who are looking for blacks only. I have never seen a profile asking for smokers only!! Are you sure you understood what the OP was saying, because you're totally missing the point in everything you've said. And I don't see what the OP's colour has got to do with anything or why you say he is lucky. He hasn't said you shouldn't shag who you want. The gist of what the OP is saying, from what I and I'm sure the other 20 posts above yours understand, because nobody else has been so far off the mark as you have, is that you should feel comfortable saying you only fancy white guys without feeling people will think you're racist. Those that say "black guys only" don't go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference". At least I've personally not seen any. So why do most profiles that say "white guys only" go on and say "I'm not racist, just my preference" You're an example of one of the profiles the OP was referring to, so maybe you can tell us, rather than being overly sensitive and confrontational." . | |||
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"Cannot understand why when being rejected on the basis of your colour you start becoming abusive... Get over it, not everyone likes black people and you should be ok with that if you're black. To the people that have to qualify their statement by adding that they are not racist, it's so stupid because more often than none they usually are." i have had no black/asians - sorry just my prefernece not racist. and im not racist, ask my mix raced son?? or the black guy who i met through work years ago and had a fling with? i am on this site for NSA and cos i just dont find blacks and asians attractive to look at as much.. i have an abundance of choice and choose those i deem most attractive to play with.. is that not how this site works?? | |||
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"Cannot understand why when being rejected on the basis of your colour you start becoming abusive... Get over it, not everyone likes black people and you should be ok with that if you're black. To the people that have to qualify their statement by adding that they are not racist, it's so stupid because more often than none they usually are. i have had no black/asians - sorry just my prefernece not racist. and im not racist, ask my mix raced son?? or the black guy who i met through work years ago and had a fling with? i am on this site for NSA and cos i just dont find blacks and asians attractive to look at as much.. i have an abundance of choice and choose those i deem most attractive to play with.. is that not how this site works??" i suppose so, and it's very fair that you don't find certain people attractive, if anything it shows you have standards. No need to qualify it though, one should state their preference and leave it a that, at least on my opinion. | |||
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"Personally people on here who use race as a preference put me off seeing them would rather play with someone regardless of their race...but that's just my opinion " Personal taste is not something to judge others on. | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? " . That's a good point Aphrodite, I think wherever subjective preferences are stated then it's likely that the person who's excluded by those preferences will be 'offended', after all we're only human and whatever our personal qualities are we don't really want to believe they don't have universal appeal, or people would find us 'unattractive' purely due to our nationality or ethnic status. | |||
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"Personally people on here who use race as a preference put me off seeing them would rather play with someone regardless of their race...but that's just my opinion Personal taste is not something to judge others on." . Isn't the poster merely stating his own 'personal taste'? | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? " very true we have english/welsh only.. no foreigners.. thats because we have had a run of then who have such bad english that we couldn't understand.. mind you i struggle with some englush and welsh people lol.. but we won't meet them as we like a bit of conversation and that won't happen if we don't understand people... that might offend some ..probably foreign people.. But no point to us if we cant understand each other.. | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? very true we have english/welsh only.. no foreigners.. thats because we have had a run of then who have such bad english that we couldn't understand.. mind you i struggle with some englush and welsh people lol.. but we won't meet them as we like a bit of conversation and that won't happen if we don't understand people... that might offend some ..probably foreign people.. But no point to us if we cant understand each other.." I can understand completely that you would not want to meet somebody if you cannot understand them. I would agree to that. What I was more thinking of.. suppose some people havea profile on here in good English... and you know they speak the language well enough. Would anybody consider it it offensive to make a statement that they dont wish to meet certain nationalities if the langauge was not a problem... that was where I was coming from really. | |||
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"Cannot understand why when being rejected on the basis of your colour you start becoming abusive... Get over it, not everyone likes black people and you should be ok with that if you're black. To the people that have to qualify their statement by adding that they are not racist, it's so stupid because more often than none they usually are. i have had no black/asians - sorry just my prefernece not racist. and im not racist, ask my mix raced son?? or the black guy who i met through work years ago and had a fling with? i am on this site for NSA and cos i just dont find blacks and asians attractive to look at as much.. i have an abundance of choice and choose those i deem most attractive to play with.. is that not how this site works??i suppose so, and it's very fair that you don't find certain people attractive, if anything it shows you have standards. No need to qualify it though, one should state their preference and leave it a that, at least on my opinion." its was ur original statement that those who state they arent racist out that even tho they more than likely are.. | |||
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"As a british born indian lad... it annoys me when guys complain they aren't getting meets just because of their race. It's purely preference, nothing more in it! I feel for most guys it's an easy argument to make, when in fact all guys know it's not massively easy to find a meet. swinging's all about attraction and being comfortable. it's the same as having an age preference, and how many people on here complain about others being ageist...? This gives us a bad name... stop complaining and just accept it! " | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? very true we have english/welsh only.. no foreigners.. thats because we have had a run of then who have such bad english that we couldn't understand.. mind you i struggle with some englush and welsh people lol.. but we won't meet them as we like a bit of conversation and that won't happen if we don't understand people... that might offend some ..probably foreign people.. But no point to us if we cant understand each other..I can understand completely that you would not want to meet somebody if you cannot understand them. I would agree to that. What I was more thinking of.. suppose some people havea profile on here in good English... and you know they speak the language well enough. Would anybody consider it it offensive to make a statement that they dont wish to meet certain nationalities if the langauge was not a problem... that was where I was coming from really. " i think if anyone has a preference not to meet and play with anyone ie Germans..French .. or any other then that is completely their right.. and no one should complain about it.. if you prefer not to meet a certain nationality then why should people expect you to.. Its all supposed to be fun.. if it was done face to face you'd pick the people that were acceptable to you.. just because its on the net and to refuse unwanted mail you put it on your profile.. the select few you wont meet take offence... where as they wouldn't face to face as they would not hear the words probably. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with that and as a black guy i dont take it as racisim. It save everyone some precious time. " | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? very true we have english/welsh only.. no foreigners.. thats because we have had a run of then who have such bad english that we couldn't understand.. mind you i struggle with some englush and welsh people lol.. but we won't meet them as we like a bit of conversation and that won't happen if we don't understand people... that might offend some ..probably foreign people.. But no point to us if we cant understand each other.." Last time round I met an Eastern European girl - she had only minimal English ... It wasn't a problem at all .... We had a several hours of conversation in a different language altogether | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? very true we have english/welsh only.. no foreigners.. thats because we have had a run of then who have such bad english that we couldn't understand.. mind you i struggle with some englush and welsh people lol.." . You also exclude non whites, but not all non whites are 'foreigners' or have 'bad English'..I'm guessing 'englush' was an innocent typo | |||
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"Unfortunately some people get mail specifically from ppl that they dont want, especially when its regarding white,asian, black play. Theres nothing wrong in apologizing, I think it is more being courteous in their eyes, than apologetic. Lots of profiles have the same , the angry arsed ones are the ones I dont like." your right nothing wrong with being courteous. | |||
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"People don't apologise for saying "No smokers, No fat people, No hairy people" " . Well they do actually, I've seen such references on many profiles. | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? very true we have english/welsh only.. no foreigners.. thats because we have had a run of then who have such bad english that we couldn't understand.. mind you i struggle with some englush and welsh people lol.. . You also exclude non whites, but not all non whites are 'foreigners' or have 'bad English'..I'm guessing 'englush' was an innocent typo " pmsl yes of course.. mind you thats what you get typing on your phone whilst baking mince pies.. this multi tasking has its issues ... But the pies were worth it .. apparently lol | |||
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"Just being curious here... would anybody consider as offensive a statement such as "no French" or "No Spanish" or "no Dutch" or "No German" ? very true we have english/welsh only.. no foreigners.. thats because we have had a run of then who have such bad english that we couldn't understand.. mind you i struggle with some englush and welsh people lol.. . You also exclude non whites, but not all non whites are 'foreigners' or have 'bad English'..I'm guessing 'englush' was an innocent typo pmsl yes of course.. mind you thats what you get typing on your phone whilst baking mince pies.. this multi tasking has its issues ... But the pies were worth it .. apparently lol " . Forgive my pedantic nature! | |||
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"The very fact that they are discriminating due to race means that they are actually being racist, but it is of course their choice and completely up to them." When you look at it that way though, anyone who has an age preference is ageist, anyone who won't meet bi/gay people are homophobic, anyone who won't meet men/women/couples (delete as appropriate) are sexist, ect. - Do you see where I'm going with this? Sexual preference is NOT racism. People seem to assume that just because we say no black/Asian men on our profile that we won't even talk to them but of course that isn't the case. There is no hatred there what-so-ever, there is just no sexual attraction, and hatred is what racism is in my eyes. x | |||
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"The very fact that they are discriminating due to race means that they are actually being racist, but it is of course their choice and completely up to them. When you look at it that way though, anyone who has an age preference is ageist, anyone who won't meet bi/gay people are homophobic, anyone who won't meet men/women/couples (delete as appropriate) are sexist, ect. - Do you see where I'm going with this? Sexual preference is NOT racism. People seem to assume that just because we say no black/Asian men on our profile that we won't even talk to them but of course that isn't the case. There is no hatred there what-so-ever, there is just no sexual attraction, and hatred is what racism is in my eyes. x" Exactly right... we see racism as hatred or strong dislike to... not that you woukd rather nit fuck them.. basically.. not sure there would be legal issues if you kindly said you didnt want to kiss or whatever someone because their colour didnt attract you... however if you said it and called them nasty names then yes you are being racist. This world is becoming more than a joke with this attitude (ie if you wont meet because of colour you are racist). It actually seems that it is more so the people calling others racist.. homophobic etc that have the issues not the rest of us.. For them to be thinking this it must be on their more that ours thats for sure. We will more than happily socially all colours race sexuality but only socially..not for play meets.. if we were racist. etc we wouldnt do that either.. A little growing up and getting a backbone wouldnt go a miss really.. | |||
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