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By *itheniceguy OP   Man
over a year ago

BICESTER

Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The term Swinging is the swapping of partners.

So not sure there's such a thing as a Single Swinger. It's a bit of a contradiction.

If a Swinger you have a partner.

Obviously many Swinging Couples enjoy single people joining them. A single woman who plays with couples is often referred to as a Unicorn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you're probably correct in that women (single or couple)who are open to this lifestyle are certainly in the minority.

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By *ad boy maverickMan
over a year ago

basildon


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

Where have you been hiding ?

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By *ssexhamptonMan
over a year ago

Rayleigh

I think it's essential for the Woman to be open to the lifestyle if a couple decide to become swingers. Most Men would jump at the chance if a woman suggested swinging, most Women would probably not if suggested by a Man.In my experience, which is not wide, the woman has been bi curious or bisexual and is looking to swing with the Husband.Its a situation where Women hold all the cards...for once

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The term Swinging is the swapping of partners.

So not sure there's such a thing as a Single Swinger. It's a bit of a contradiction.

If a Swinger you have a partner.

Obviously many Swinging Couples enjoy single people joining them. A single woman who plays with couples is often referred to as a Unicorn. "

Oh please; singles were swinging long before it was taken up by married couples; swapping partners doesn't require you to be in a relationship, it used to be about not getting married, sexual freedom. Then those people got older, attitudes changed and they got jobs and married. Then, realising that monogamy is boring couples swinging, or wife swapping, as it was referred to (70s sexism for you), emerged.

These days some of what people think of as swinging is pretty mainstream. Women's glossy mags have articles and tips on threesomes.

If you go to a club and have sex with half a dozen different people you have swapped partners each time regardless of your marital status.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m not a swinger! Not heavily into casual sex either generally it’s just plugging a hole between relationships and I don’t meet many guys!

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By *itheniceguy OP   Man
over a year ago

BICESTER

I used the terms "swinging/swingers" as a generalization for people who are on this site. Let's face it,even the site is called Fab "Swingers" despite the fact that there are all sorts of people on here.

I think many of the replies have missed my point which was simply to highlight that woman who engage in the kind of activities found on this site are very different to the average woman, who based on my female friends, are generally repulsed by promiscuity and casual sex.

It's clear to me that the kind of woman that use this site think more like men sexually and I applaud them for it. It's a shame that more woman don't have a more liberal attitude to sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

Dating sites are for dating. The fact that they state they don't want one night stands etc is because so many men on dating sites lie about wanting to date when they just want a fuck.

Women may enjoy casual sex for fun, but if the men are unsuitable they give up looking.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

In my opinion as a woman on this site who also goes to clubs on her own sometimes, women on here are embracing their own sexuality. They are also putting two fingers up (I know I am) to the norms of society that say women are not supposed to enjoy sex, they should be with one man, bare him plenty of kids and look after his needs. They are here for their own satisfaction and to fulfil their needs, whatever those might be. Some might want a monogamous relationship but on their terms. Whereas others, like myself, like their freedom. As even though I do have a partner, we have an open relationship and are as good as single when not together.

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By *elloWoman
over a year ago

alpha centauri

my opinion is that women who express their sexual appetites are often verbally victiminised '$lut, Wh0re, etc' especially as young adults, this could be in real life or they've definitely seen in it in many many TV programs and films, a girl sleeps with 1 guy and the whole school call her a slag but the boy gets a pat on the back. It would seem that ladies who swing have refused to bow down to this and live their lives as they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

Not at all, before we somehow got into swinging the wife was extremely vanilla, something turned the switch and she found an inner sexual desire and her sex drive flew up..

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford


"my opinion is that women who express their sexual appetites are often verbally victiminised '$lut, Wh0re, etc' especially as young adults, this could be in real life or they've definitely seen in it in many many TV programs and films, a girl sleeps with 1 guy and the whole school call her a slag but the boy gets a pat on the back. It would seem that ladies who swing have refused to bow down to this and live their lives as they want. "

This as well. How come, in 21st century, women are still called offensive names for engaging in non-monogamous sex whereas men are still "studs", "players" etc? Though I do like the new "man-whore" term, but even that one has got more positive than negative meaning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"my opinion is that women who express their sexual appetites are often verbally victiminised '$lut, Wh0re, etc' especially as young adults, this could be in real life or they've definitely seen in it in many many TV programs and films, a girl sleeps with 1 guy and the whole school call her a slag but the boy gets a pat on the back. It would seem that ladies who swing have refused to bow down to this and live their lives as they want. "

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

Could it possibly be to do with the site you're looking at the profiles on?

If you are looking at dating sites you are going to find people who are more likely to be interested in a relationship.

If you're looking at swinging sites you are more likely to find people who are looking for casual fun.

In my opinion

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

One more thing- we must not forget about the nature's way of "punishing" a woman (please note I am not literally calling it punishment, I'm being sarcastic here) if she dares engaging in casual sex with no contraception, for whatever reason. It's the woman who is stuck with a baby growing in her, a man may not even be aware that he managed to inseminate her. Yes, I know it's much easier in the past to either "get rid of it" or become a single mother but it is still a highly traumatic experience, no matter what the outcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

I do definitely but then again if the reserved women was given the chance or it was brought up by her partner who knows

Women tend to stay innocent as they don't want to sound like slots for admitting it . My wife denied it for ages but then she said it really turns on does it make her a slut? I said no . Having fun with your partner meeting others is fun and adventurous . A slut is a women who sleeps with multiple men when she's single

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

But yeah answering your question definitely a rare breed and let's be honest much more fun and Live life for the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

Some of us are on both. I use fab for sex (although I rarely meet) and dating apps for dating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman?

Some of us are on both. I use fab for sex (although I rarely meet) and dating apps for dating. "

To add if I’m approached for a sexual encounter in dating apps I’ll ignore it as that’s not what I’m there for.

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By *elloWoman
over a year ago

alpha centauri


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman?

I do definitely but then again if the reserved women was given the chance or it was brought up by her partner who knows

Women tend to stay innocent as they don't want to sound like slots for admitting it . My wife denied it for ages but then she said it really turns on does it make her a slut? I said no . Having fun with your partner meeting others is fun and adventurous . A slut is a women who sleeps with multiple men when she's single "

I'm single, I sleep with multiple men, am I a slut not someone being fun and adventures

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman?

Some of us are on both. I use fab for sex (although I rarely meet) and dating apps for dating. "

Same here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman?

I do definitely but then again if the reserved women was given the chance or it was brought up by her partner who knows

Women tend to stay innocent as they don't want to sound like slots for admitting it . My wife denied it for ages but then she said it really turns on does it make her a slut? I said no . Having fun with your partner meeting others is fun and adventurous . A slut is a women who sleeps with multiple men when she's single

I'm single, I sleep with multiple men, am I a slut not someone being fun and adventures "

I knew I'd got shot down for this.. nothing wrong with being a slut I definitely didn't say that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman?

I do definitely but then again if the reserved women was given the chance or it was brought up by her partner who knows

Women tend to stay innocent as they don't want to sound like slots for admitting it . My wife denied it for ages but then she said it really turns on does it make her a slut? I said no . Having fun with your partner meeting others is fun and adventurous . A slut is a women who sleeps with multiple men when she's single

I'm single, I sleep with multiple men, am I a slut not someone being fun and adventures

I knew I'd got shot down for this.. nothing wrong with being a slut I definitely didn't say that "

That’s debatable. Slut is an offensive term to a lot of women and it’s usually used to negatively describe a woman who ‘sleeps around’ by society in general.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman?

I do definitely but then again if the reserved women was given the chance or it was brought up by her partner who knows

Women tend to stay innocent as they don't want to sound like slots for admitting it . My wife denied it for ages but then she said it really turns on does it make her a slut? I said no . Having fun with your partner meeting others is fun and adventurous . A slut is a women who sleeps with multiple men when she's single

I'm single, I sleep with multiple men, am I a slut not someone being fun and adventures

I knew I'd got shot down for this.. nothing wrong with being a slut I definitely didn't say that

That’s debatable. Slut is an offensive term to a lot of women and it’s usually used to negatively describe a woman who ‘sleeps around’ by society in general. "

It is debatable but personally to me if you enjoy sex then why should people feel ashamed because of it. It's a hobbie

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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago

London


"The term Swinging is the swapping of partners.

So not sure there's such a thing as a Single Swinger. It's a bit of a contradiction.

If a Swinger you have a partner.

Obviously many Swinging Couples enjoy single people joining them. A single woman who plays with couples is often referred to as a Unicorn.

Oh please; singles were swinging long before it was taken up by married couples; swapping partners doesn't require you to be in a relationship, it used to be about not getting married, sexual freedom. Then those people got older, attitudes changed and they got jobs and married. Then, realising that monogamy is boring couples swinging, or wife swapping, as it was referred to (70s sexism for you), emerged.

These days some of what people think of as swinging is pretty mainstream. Women's glossy mags have articles and tips on threesomes.

If you go to a club and have sex with half a dozen different people you have swapped partners each time regardless of your marital status.

"

That's your view. It's not everyone's. I agree with the person you are answering. They don't mention "married" they say a partner. That could be any relationship whatsoever.Swinging isn't one person having multiple partners in one night, you are right that is swapping partners. But swinging is about the dynamic between you and another to do with sex with others, that could be 3 sums, 4 sums, GB, Dogging, Cuckolding anything where the minds meet of two people in a relationship and they enjoy the fact that someone else has come into their relationship however briefly. It's just as important how their partner felt, reacted etc , it's not just the sex that is shared. That is the feeling, dynamic that couples experience. A ring on the finger isn't a requirement. But two singles who have sex isn't swinging.

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By *andD300Couple
over a year ago

london


"The term Swinging is the swapping of partners.

So not sure there's such a thing as a Single Swinger. It's a bit of a contradiction.

If a Swinger you have a partner.

Obviously many Swinging Couples enjoy single people joining them. A single woman who plays with couples is often referred to as a Unicorn. "

I thought the same.

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By *yphodMan
over a year ago

London

I think since programs such as Sex in the City, a sexually active women engaging in casual sex is a lot less frowned upon these days.

Unfortunately many websites that cater for hookups rather than just plain dating are either scams or full of scammers. One reason why this site has become a "home" for single men.

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By *itheniceguy OP   Man
over a year ago

BICESTER

I wonder how many woman on here would openly admit their lifestyle to their friends and family? When I have told my female friends that I'm on here they are all horrified.

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By *itheniceguy OP   Man
over a year ago

BICESTER

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By *Latina_SirCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere between borders


"The term Swinging is the swapping of partners.

So not sure there's such a thing as a Single Swinger. It's a bit of a contradiction.

If a Swinger you have a partner.

Obviously many Swinging Couples enjoy single people joining them. A single woman who plays with couples is often referred to as a Unicorn. "

Find it interesting when couples exclude the singles from swinging and then also ironic how couples look so much for 3sums ... to not even mention about the several dynamics where couples specifically look for singles only ..

Lol

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By *elloWoman
over a year ago

alpha centauri


"I wonder how many woman on here would openly admit their lifestyle to their friends and family? When I have told my female friends that I'm on here they are all horrified. "

My friends know, most have seen my profile a few have also joined, a couple of people I've worked with are on here and they're on my friends list so have seen all my pics, it's not an issue.

As for family , well I don't think my family would appreciate hearing about my sex life no matter if it's swinging or more vanilla

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By *eachybum2020Man
over a year ago

Fraddon

While I agree with you OP, all was explained several years ago by Professor Robert Winston.

He conducted an experiment in a university, in short, he asked 100 females and 100 males if they would have sex with a stranger. Can remember the exact figures but 1% of females said yes and something like 50-70% of males said yes.

The conclusion for females, subconsciously sex has greater consequences for them as they are the ones who has to carry a child.

My take on it is most females need attraction and an emotional connection whereas most men don't need either, I have seen the verifications of others lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Based on my experience of woman I think that the vast majority are not into casual sex. A clear example of this is the sheer number of woman's profiles on dating sites that explicitly state that they are not interested in casual sex, FWBs, one night stands etc etc. So in light of the fact that most woman on sites like FAB are the complete opposite, would it be fair to say that swinging woman are wired differently to most woman? "

The complaints from men getting none on a swinging site, would actually reinforce that

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

It's the casual sex, in all it's forms that attract us both.

The opposite would be a date, chatting, few drinks, maybe meet again with a view to a long term relationship.

No thanks, been there, found a fabulous man, happily married for many years and we can talk about any subject or want that comes to mind. A rare thing.

I want to go to a party, club or holiday, have sex with multiple men, couples, ladies and then leave with my husband.

Get home, bed, talk about the experience, more sex, sleep.

Monday morning. Professional head on, back in work, the party world a million miles away, I'm a pillar of society until the next time I'm bent over a car bonnet, in a sand dune, strange bed, kitchen worktop, table, sofa etc having sex with a man I've never met before.

Not looking for friends, long term relationships, details of your job, family, aspirations, just your cock thanks.

I'm nothing special but feel confident to talk to Paul.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The term Swinging is the swapping of partners.

So not sure there's such a thing as a Single Swinger. It's a bit of a contradiction.

If a Swinger you have a partner.

Obviously many Swinging Couples enjoy single people joining them. A single woman who plays with couples is often referred to as a Unicorn.

Oh please; singles were swinging long before it was taken up by married couples; swapping partners doesn't require you to be in a relationship, it used to be about not getting married, sexual freedom. Then those people got older, attitudes changed and they got jobs and married. Then, realising that monogamy is boring couples swinging, or wife swapping, as it was referred to (70s sexism for you), emerged.

These days some of what people think of as swinging is pretty mainstream. Women's glossy mags have articles and tips on threesomes.

If you go to a club and have sex with half a dozen different people you have swapped partners each time regardless of your marital status.

That's your view. It's not everyone's. I agree with the person you are answering. They don't mention "married" they say a partner. That could be any relationship whatsoever.Swinging isn't one person having multiple partners in one night, you are right that is swapping partners. But swinging is about the dynamic between you and another to do with sex with others, that could be 3 sums, 4 sums, GB, Dogging, Cuckolding anything where the minds meet of two people in a relationship and they enjoy the fact that someone else has come into their relationship however briefly. It's just as important how their partner felt, reacted etc , it's not just the sex that is shared. That is the feeling, dynamic that couples experience. A ring on the finger isn't a requirement. But two singles who have sex isn't swinging."

Actually the definition of a swinger is "someone who is willing to have sex often with many different people" Cambridge University Press. As are most dictionary definitions.

One side of it is couples sharing each other - that's not all swinging is. Gatekeeping isn't very welcoming to all of the single people here. Maybe it's time to acknowledge that.

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By *edWitch0000Woman
over a year ago

worthing

Women who are into casual sex/multiple partners/group sex ARE unusual. The reasons for that are many. Partly I think it's social pressure - lots of women think they are damaged or gross if their number gets too high, and they also feel pressure to be in a relationship/married and buy into the idea that you have to withhold sex to attract the 'right' man.

Pregnancy and having young children can kill a woman's sex drive for years also.

A third reason can be self image, low self esteem etc and not wanting to go after casual sex for fear of rejection.

Then there is the safety aspect: many women would be too fearful to meet men for sex because it's frankly potentially very dangerous.

Bottom line though far more men are open to casual sex and non monogamy than women. So yes I guess we are a different 'breed' (not a great expression though)

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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago

London


"

Actually the definition of a swinger is "someone who is willing to have sex often with many different people" Cambridge University Press. As are most dictionary definitions.

"

No, just the dictionary you decided to pick. I'll see your Cambridge and with a Collins Dictionary.

Definition of 'swinger'

Word Frequency

swinger

(sw???? IPA Pronunciation Guide)

Word forms: plural swingers

1. COUNTABLE NOUN

A swinger is a person who is lively and fashionable.

[informal, old-fashioned]

2. COUNTABLE NOUN

Swingers are people who are married or in a long-term relationship and who like to have sex with other people's partners.

And raise you a Wikipedia:

Swinging, sometimes called wife-swapping, husband-swapping, or partner-swapping, is a sexual activity in which both singles and partners in a committed relationship sexually engage with others for recreational purposes.

We can all find anything on google to make a point.

Hubby here, by the time I was 19 I had slept with over 20 women. According to Cambridge I was a swinger because I was "someone who is willing to have sex often with many different people". I can guarantee I wasnt a swinger, just a horny male with the gift of the gab who scrubbed up well and would fuck anything with a pulse.

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By *ndiiiMan
over a year ago

Paisley Scotland


"The term Swinging is the swapping of partners.

So not sure there's such a thing as a Single Swinger. It's a bit of a contradiction.

If a Swinger you have a partner.

Obviously many Swinging Couples enjoy single people joining them. A single woman who plays with couples is often referred to as a Unicorn.

Oh please; singles were swinging long before it was taken up by married couples; swapping partners doesn't require you to be in a relationship, it used to be about not getting married, sexual freedom. Then those people got older, attitudes changed and they got jobs and married. Then, realising that monogamy is boring couples swinging, or wife swapping, as it was referred to (70s sexism for you), emerged.

These days some of what people think of as swinging is pretty mainstream. Women's glossy mags have articles and tips on threesomes.

If you go to a club and have sex with half a dozen different people you have swapped partners each time regardless of your marital status.

"

Haha wife swapping remember it well

Correct 100% x

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside


"Women who are into casual sex/multiple partners/group sex ARE unusual. The reasons for that are many. Partly I think it's social pressure - lots of women think they are damaged or gross if their number gets too high, and they also feel pressure to be in a relationship/married and buy into the idea that you have to withhold sex to attract the 'right' man.

Pregnancy and having young children can kill a woman's sex drive for years also.

A third reason can be self image, low self esteem etc and not wanting to go after casual sex for fear of rejection.

Then there is the safety aspect: many women would be too fearful to meet men for sex because it's frankly potentially very dangerous.

Bottom line though far more men are open to casual sex and non monogamy than women. So yes I guess we are a different 'breed' (not a great expression though) "

I find swinging has boosted my confidence, self esteem, sex drive and just about everything else.

To be fair I'm a confident woman, happy in my own skin and love life.

I'd probably have to say, in general, I would prefer the company of men.

My women friends are probably cut from the same cloth as me.

When we meet couples I always tell them swinging, in all it's guises, is a massive confidence booster and a fabulous secret life.

Like most things in life, give it a whirl and forget what anyone else thinks especially if those folks never enter your radar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Actually the definition of a swinger is "someone who is willing to have sex often with many different people" Cambridge University Press. As are most dictionary definitions.

No, just the dictionary you decided to pick. I'll see your Cambridge and with a Collins Dictionary.

Definition of 'swinger'

Word Frequency

swinger

(sw???? IPA Pronunciation Guide)

Word forms: plural swingers

1. COUNTABLE NOUN

A swinger is a person who is lively and fashionable.

[informal, old-fashioned]

2. COUNTABLE NOUN

Swingers are people who are married or in a long-term relationship and who like to have sex with other people's partners.

And raise you a Wikipedia:

Swinging, sometimes called wife-swapping, husband-swapping, or partner-swapping, is a sexual activity in which both singles and partners in a committed relationship sexually engage with others for recreational purposes.

We can all find anything on google to make a point.

Hubby here, by the time I was 19 I had slept with over 20 women. According to Cambridge I was a swinger because I was "someone who is willing to have sex often with many different people". I can guarantee I wasnt a swinger, just a horny male with the gift of the gab who scrubbed up well and would fuck anything with a pulse."

I said most definitions. Good for you. My point about gatekeeping still stands. I really dislike couples doing this.

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over a year ago


"Women who are into casual sex/multiple partners/group sex ARE unusual. The reasons for that are many. Partly I think it's social pressure - lots of women think they are damaged or gross if their number gets too high, and they also feel pressure to be in a relationship/married and buy into the idea that you have to withhold sex to attract the 'right' man.

Pregnancy and having young children can kill a woman's sex drive for years also.

A third reason can be self image, low self esteem etc and not wanting to go after casual sex for fear of rejection.

Then there is the safety aspect: many women would be too fearful to meet men for sex because it's frankly potentially very dangerous.

Bottom line though far more men are open to casual sex and non monogamy than women. So yes I guess we are a different 'breed' (not a great expression though) "

Some great points - very accurate. Although I have found many guys I talk to here and off-site are only theoretically ok with non-monogamy.

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over a year ago

Couples defining and gatekeeping what swinging is, is very tiresome!

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

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"Couples defining and gatekeeping what swinging is, is very tiresome! "

I'm not sure I would see it as gatekeeping to what to use a term "correctly." Real gatekeeping, in my opinion, would be making singles feel unwelcome at events, on websites, etc.

The term certainly seems to have developed in the context of couples (specifically within the US military). However, it's not a big step from that to include singles who would have sex with those couples.

It makes sense that the term would continue to evolve though.

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over a year ago


"my opinion is that women who express their sexual appetites are often verbally victiminised '$lut, Wh0re, etc' especially as young adults, this could be in real life or they've definitely seen in it in many many TV programs and films, a girl sleeps with 1 guy and the whole school call her a slag but the boy gets a pat on the back. It would seem that ladies who swing have refused to bow down to this and live their lives as they want. "

Exactly sadly it is a hangover from prudish values of victorian society (and similar).

Go back 2000 years and the Romans and Greeks from all sections of society were far more sexually liberated. Homosexual and bi sex with men or women was totally accepted.

Senators would often treat the wife with an exotic playmate (appreciate this was often linked to slavry) or they would get a young up and coming officer or similar to look after the Mrs whilst they were away.

The Roman rich also knew how to throw incredible orgy parties! I guess when you don't have TVs, mobiles and the Internet society had far more time for carnal pleasures

KJ

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