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"Just delete all your sent messages then you won't know one way or the other. " Exactly! A reply is a bonus attitude = better fab times imo | |||
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" Because site FAQs are not the definitive guide to good manners, and it wasn't instructing, it was suggesting an alternative approach which seemed to me to be better. Your reply ha slightly the sort of self important tone which makes Fab a less nice place than it could be " Self important tone? For replying with an opinion that’s different to yours? Ok then… | |||
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" Because site FAQs are not the definitive guide to good manners, and it wasn't instructing, it was suggesting an alternative approach which seemed to me to be better. Your reply ha slightly the sort of self important tone which makes Fab a less nice place than it could be " Says you... | |||
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" Because site FAQs are not the definitive guide to good manners, and it wasn't instructing, it was suggesting an alternative approach which seemed to me to be better. Your reply ha slightly the sort of self important tone which makes Fab a less nice place than it could be " What an odd assumption! | |||
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" A practical idea - Fab is a bit of a numbers game, especially for single guys. If I pop a message over and it's opened (mine usually are, I write good openers) and there's no interest, a no thanks is always appreciated but obviously single gals especially get swamped. However, I do almost always say "If there's no interest just hit delete" which really isn't any more work than not hitting delete. Yet it seems there are stacks of opened but unreplied messages sitting in inboxes across Fab....perhaps one day I'll get a sudden bonanza of replies and invitations but I doubt it Wouldn't it be an easy convention to adopt?" Oh dear | |||
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" Because site FAQs are not the definitive guide to good manners, and it wasn't instructing, it was suggesting an alternative approach which seemed to me to be better. Your reply ha slightly the sort of self important tone which makes Fab a less nice place than it could be " I understand what this guys actually trying to say, but, god help him and me for saying that the fab world could be a better place than it's now becoming. | |||
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" Because site FAQs are not the definitive guide to good manners, and it wasn't instructing, it was suggesting an alternative approach which seemed to me to be better. Your reply ha slightly the sort of self important tone which makes Fab a less nice place than it could be I understand what this guys actually trying to say, but, god help him and me for saying that the fab world could be a better place than it's now becoming. " Why would it be a better place if women deleted messages quicker? In particular why would that be better than guys reading the FAQs and accepting that no reply is a reply? | |||
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" Why would it be a better place if women deleted messages quicker? In particular why would that be better than guys reading the FAQs and accepting that no reply is a reply?" Because I don't send out random mailshots, I make an effort to understand the profile and and also give the option for an effortless delete saying no thanks. And if I get that, I block, not out of grump but to make sure I don't send another message in a year or whatever saying "hi, the first may have been lost in the rush"...which as actually led to a few very nice and warm chats and from memory a meet or two... So it was an idea for another approach, which you are all very welcome not to take but it would have been nice if someone had said "see yr point, good idea". Just saying. | |||
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" Because I don't send out random mailshots, I make an effort to understand the profile and and also give the option for an effortless delete saying no thanks. And if I get that, I block, not out of grump but to make sure I don't send another message in a year or whatever saying "hi, the first may have been lost in the rush"...which as actually led to a few very nice and warm chats and from memory a meet or two... So it was an idea for another approach, which you are all very welcome not to take but it would have been nice if someone had said "see yr point, good idea". Just saying." The “…also give the option for an effortless delete” is the issue right there. People don’t need your permission to delete. You’re putting an onus on them to do something to fit your requirements, when they’ve no obligation whatsoever to do that. There are umpteen threads every week just ‘suggesting’ what people (mostly women) “should do”. They range from full replies, to simple no thanks to suggestions like yours. When in reality the simplest solution is for folks to read the FAQs, accept what they say and why and go with it. Rather than feeling the need to come up with endless solutions that put the onus on the recipient, rather than them. | |||
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" Because I don't send out random mailshots, I make an effort to understand the profile and and also give the option for an effortless delete saying no thanks. And if I get that, I block, not out of grump but to make sure I don't send another message in a year or whatever saying "hi, the first may have been lost in the rush"...which as actually led to a few very nice and warm chats and from memory a meet or two... So it was an idea for another approach, which you are all very welcome not to take but it would have been nice if someone had said "see yr point, good idea". Just saying. The “…also give the option for an effortless delete” is the issue right there. People don’t need your permission to delete. You’re putting an onus on them to do something to fit your requirements, when they’ve no obligation whatsoever to do that. There are umpteen threads every week just ‘suggesting’ what people (mostly women) “should do”. They range from full replies, to simple no thanks to suggestions like yours. When in reality the simplest solution is for folks to read the FAQs, accept what they say and why and go with it. Rather than feeling the need to come up with endless solutions that put the onus on the recipient, rather than them. " I agree with this. Just because someone may have written what they think is a well thought out message, doesn't give them the right, suggestion, expectation, whatever word you want to use, for the recipient to do anything with that message. I just don't get why there is so much interest in getting a response to suit the senders needs, when clearly there is no interest from the recipient. It baffles me. | |||
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" A practical idea - Fab is a bit of a numbers game, especially for single guys. If I pop a message over and it's opened (mine usually are, I write good openers) and there's no interest, a no thanks is always appreciated but obviously single gals especially get swamped. However, I do almost always say "If there's no interest just hit delete" which really isn't any more work than not hitting delete. Yet it seems there are stacks of opened but unreplied messages sitting in inboxes across Fab....perhaps one day I'll get a sudden bonanza of replies and invitations but I doubt it Wouldn't it be an easy convention to adopt?" Why another thread on this? Maybe it’s “just hit delete”? I don’t like to be told what to do (unless I do ) | |||
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"Replies much as expected, I remain unrepentant. But perhaps that's Fab? Perhaps it's modern manners? Who knows..." Your confusing personal expectation with manners. Expecting people to change to suit your narrative won't work on this site. | |||
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"Genuinely impossible to read all mges xx" I quite see that and not opening messages I totally get, but if it looked interesting enough to open reading doesn't take so long. Unless you are a very slow reader | |||
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"Replies much as expected, I remain unrepentant. But perhaps that's Fab? Perhaps it's modern manners? Who knows..." Nothing to with manners. No one is obligated to respond to you whether that's via messages on here or if you approach a woman in person This entitlement is honestly astounding | |||
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"Genuinely impossible to read all mges xx I quite see that and not opening messages I totally get, but if it looked interesting enough to open reading doesn't take so long. Unless you are a very slow reader " I'd personally look at your profile, read your message and move along. Nothing against you, I'm sure you're lovely... But still | |||
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"Looking at things from a slightly different perspective. I can see why the Op said it would be helpful to delete. A couple mentioned that they like to read messages together so they can both agree. ( message read by one but not both) , so recipient assumed not interested. A lady read a message but didn't have time to respond at that moment. Deleted as assume not interested. Just two examples and of course the obvious. Why do guys keep sending g messages ? Maybe we could agree on an etiquette which helps everyone ?" There is an etiquette that helps everyone. As it stated in the site FAQs 'no reply means not interested' | |||
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"Looking at things from a slightly different perspective. I can see why the Op said it would be helpful to delete. A couple mentioned that they like to read messages together so they can both agree. ( message read by one but not both) , so recipient assumed not interested. A lady read a message but didn't have time to respond at that moment. Deleted as assume not interested. Just two examples and of course the obvious. Why do guys keep sending g messages ? Maybe we could agree on an etiquette which helps everyone ? There is an etiquette that helps everyone. As it stated in the site FAQs 'no reply means not interested'" But the above sample of examples show that it's not necessarily the case A delete is a clear indication requiring no effort. ? | |||
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"Looking at things from a slightly different perspective. I can see why the Op said it would be helpful to delete. A couple mentioned that they like to read messages together so they can both agree. ( message read by one but not both) , so recipient assumed not interested. A lady read a message but didn't have time to respond at that moment. Deleted as assume not interested. Just two examples and of course the obvious. Why do guys keep sending g messages ? Maybe we could agree on an etiquette which helps everyone ? There is an etiquette that helps everyone. As it stated in the site FAQs 'no reply means not interested' But the above sample of examples show that it's not necessarily the case A delete is a clear indication requiring no effort. ?" Sure... But a no response, is still a response, no?... In life if you knocked on someone's door and they didn't physically answer it. Would you leave after a few minutes? Or camp outside their doorstep for 3mths in the hope they eventually would open the door? | |||
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"Looking at things from a slightly different perspective. I can see why the Op said it would be helpful to delete. A couple mentioned that they like to read messages together so they can both agree. ( message read by one but not both) , so recipient assumed not interested. A lady read a message but didn't have time to respond at that moment. Deleted as assume not interested. Just two examples and of course the obvious. Why do guys keep sending g messages ? Maybe we could agree on an etiquette which helps everyone ? There is an etiquette that helps everyone. As it stated in the site FAQs 'no reply means not interested' But the above sample of examples show that it's not necessarily the case A delete is a clear indication requiring no effort. ?" It is a clear indication If someone wanted to meet you they would respond lol Why is this so hard to understand? How would they get to know you and potentially arrange a meet if they make zero contact with you? | |||
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"Looking at things from a slightly different perspective. I can see why the Op said it would be helpful to delete. A couple mentioned that they like to read messages together so they can both agree. ( message read by one but not both) , so recipient assumed not interested. A lady read a message but didn't have time to respond at that moment. Deleted as assume not interested. Just two examples and of course the obvious. Why do guys keep sending g messages ? Maybe we could agree on an etiquette which helps everyone ? There is an etiquette that helps everyone. As it stated in the site FAQs 'no reply means not interested' But the above sample of examples show that it's not necessarily the case A delete is a clear indication requiring no effort. ?" No reply is a clear indication that, at that time, the recipient doesn’t wish to reply. For whatever reason. The easiest thing would be for the site etiquette, that’s quite clearly stated in the FAQs, to be accepted by people who think it shouldn’t apply to them. | |||
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