FabSwingers.com forum: Tgirls and this site

By *aria_dreamgirl OP TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes of course you are welcome on here.

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By *uilder506Man
over a year ago

bognor

More than welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely you are all welcome here

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By *lipy123TV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

Yes we do, we all start our journey somewhere. Never had problems being here either

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By *aria_dreamgirl OP TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Thanks for the reassurance. Just feel marginalised sometimes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My experience is that people are more concerned with categories and what that means relative to them rather than the actual individuals of the thread subject. Maybe you've had a different experience op but think the majority of people now are open minded enough to be more inclusive. The ones that aren't aren't worth taking notice of.

-Mr

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By *hilledGuyClactonMan
over a year ago

Little clacton

I love trans.I usually pop on cam in the bi room.

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By *aria_dreamgirl OP TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Yes there's this recurring thread about the distinction between ts and tvs. Frankly it's tedious and unnecessary.

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By *ammy_xMan
over a year ago

Reading

Everyone should feel welcome

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By *la87Man
over a year ago

acton

I would just prefer if all the trans people picked that as their sex and not female. That aside in pretty sure that this site was accepting of trans people from inception.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

I understand your concern, in what you would assume and hope to be trans inclusive environment there are definitely threads on the forum where I suspect it feels far from inclusive.

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By *ld_dogMan
over a year ago

coleford

I adore trans people and find them very sexy and great lovers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes there's this recurring thread about the distinction between ts and tvs. Frankly it's tedious and unnecessary. "

I imagine it is to see the same things being repeated. However another way to look at it might be that a lot of people are curious about a subject they are not familiar with and are genuinely asking questions to educate themselves. I think this is always better than remaining in ignorance, but anonymous arguments on internet threads do allow people to be much ruder than they would in real life so it often descends into petty arguing lol

-Mr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

What's the difference between ropey cross dressers, hairy panty wearers and t girls?

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By *ammy_xMan
over a year ago

Reading

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial.

What's the difference between ropey cross dressers, hairy panty wearers and t girls? "

I think the categories on here could be expanded. There is a big difference between us ropey crossdressers and trans

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

your more than wecome always x

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By *xkritTV/TS
over a year ago

High Wycombe (ish)

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial.

What's the difference between ropey cross dressers, hairy panty wearers and t girls? "

How they identify, what the do and why they do it! And I think that's some of the challenge with the labels on here

I'm firmly a crossdresser / hairy panty wearer. I identify as bi male but (for sexual gratification) will also sometimes wear girlie this. Even when I do, though, I still basically look male(ish)!

As a sweeping generalisation (and the risk of getting flamed), most TVs will go the step further and, unlike me, will actually look like the gender they are dress (be that female or male). Their sexual prefeances or how they like to be perceived may also change with their dress

At the other end of the scale (from me) are TS. Again, more generalisation but ... TS generally are trapped in the wrong body and want to be [the other sex].

Trouble is on here you're either make, female or TV/TS - there aren't any options for the nuances and therefore the open conversation about ones preferences aren't easily held

Hope that helps at least start the conversation and that I haven't offendened anyone with my broad brush generalisation

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

That's not helping and frankly absurd. All are welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course you do? I mean why wouldn't you? Regardless of what "type" of trans you are, Male to Female, part time crossdresser, Female to Male or a male to a bloody Apricot, you've all got every right to be on here to socialise and have your fun just as much as the next person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I regularly lock horns with people regarding trans issues but you've got as much right to be here as anyone else

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By *irmhandmancMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Absolutely!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the categories on here could be expanded. There is a big difference between us ropey crossdressers and trans "

Agreed. Men that dress up for the sexual thrill and people that genuinely identify as a sex should not be held in the same category, as they simply are not the same thing. Men and Women get straight, bi and gay categories, why can't TV/TS's get Crossdresser, Transitioned Female etc. categoires?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

In what way? Yes there is the occasional idiot but I can't remember ever seeing any thing like what you are saying.

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS
over a year ago

Perth

Of course we belong. Not one label should try and assume priority.

Many, many people are liberal enough to be accepting, even if it doesnt float their boat. As you'd expect from a swingers site...

Sadly its not always the way, a significant minority are pretty transphobic in their comments, and admin dont do nearly enough to moderate it fairly- not surprising really as the site owners have ignored all requests to bring the site out of the 90s and add a few labels to differentiate various places on the spectrum....

But yeah,you have as much right to be here as others... If they dont like it? That's their fucking problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial.

What's the difference between ropey cross dressers, hairy panty wearers and t girls?

How they identify, what the do and why they do it! And I think that's some of the challenge with the labels on here

I'm firmly a crossdresser / hairy panty wearer. I identify as bi male but (for sexual gratification) will also sometimes wear girlie this. Even when I do, though, I still basically look male(ish)!

At the other end of the scale (from me) are TS. Again, more generalisation but ... TS generally are trapped in the wrong body and want to be [the other sex].

Trouble is on here you're either make, female or TV/TS - there aren't any options for the nuances and therefore the open conversation about ones preferences aren't easily held

Hope that helps at least start the conversation and that I haven't offendened anyone with my broad brush generalisation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial.

What's the difference between ropey cross dressers, hairy panty wearers and t girls?

I think the categories on here could be expanded. There is a big difference between us ropey crossdressers and trans "

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By *RSTCouple
over a year ago

S. Northants

100% yes you belong on here. Although the options are very generalised. The hairy pants wearer and the full time trans lady are quite different creatures.

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By *drian52Man
over a year ago

Derby

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

Abso fooking lutely. It's a safe space for all

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

It's a swingers site which is open to anyone regardless of sexuality and not to be judged

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

I always enjoy being on here and have always felt welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as you're not an arsehole I think anyone should be welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you’re a genuine swinger then you belong on this site regardless of gender.

Remember that only a very small number of people on Fan actually use the forums OP.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

Everyone is welcome on the forum, its just a bit of fun at the end of the day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re a genuine swinger then you belong on this site regardless of gender.

Remember that only a very small number of people on Fan actually use the forums OP."

*Fab not Fan. Nightshift brain!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re a genuine swinger then you belong on this site regardless of gender.

Remember that only a very small number of people on Fan actually use the forums OP."

What is a genuine Swinger?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re a genuine swinger then you belong on this site regardless of gender.

Remember that only a very small number of people on Fan actually use the forums OP.

What is a genuine Swinger?"

Someone who enjoys swapping partners or groupsex.

However i think they meant someone who is easy going when it comes to sex and doesn't hold much prejudice.

Hence a real swinger wouldn't have any problem with peoples gender or whatever as we're all just here for a good time.

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By *arah_tv999TV/TS
over a year ago

Oxford

"Of course we belong. Not one label should try and assume priority.

Many, many people are liberal enough to be accepting, even if it doesnt float their boat. As you'd expect from a swingers site...

But yeah,you have as much right to be here as others... If they dont like it? That's their fucking problem

As she said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re a genuine swinger then you belong on this site regardless of gender.

Remember that only a very small number of people on Fan actually use the forums OP.

What is a genuine Swinger?

Someone who enjoys swapping partners or groupsex.

However i think they meant someone who is easy going when it comes to sex and doesn't hold much prejudice.

Hence a real swinger wouldn't have any problem with peoples gender or whatever as we're all just here for a good time."

That's a positive way of looking at it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hence a real swinger wouldn't have any problem with peoples gender or whatever as we're all just here for a good time.

That's a positive way of looking at it.

Yes, that was the gist of what I meant. Blame working night shifts for not explaining it very well!

My partner has never felt excluded on Fab but they don’t participate on the forums.

There can be negative comments but they are rare and usually stem from misunderstanding or confusion. Let’s face it, there can be negativity about every subject under the sun on the forums

Viv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hence a real swinger wouldn't have any problem with peoples gender or whatever as we're all just here for a good time.

That's a positive way of looking at it.

Yes, that was the gist of what I meant. Blame working night shifts for not explaining it very well!

My partner has never felt excluded on Fab but they don’t participate on the forums.

There can be negative comments but they are rare and usually stem from misunderstanding or confusion. Let’s face it, there can be negativity about every subject under the sun on the forums

Viv"

Sleep well. X

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By *onestjohn1962Man
over a year ago

Sheffield

Everyone welcome

Just here for a good time.

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By *aviniaCDTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds (close to GAP)

I've never had any problems here from other members and don't know any other girls that have. It's all good!

x x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes everyone is welcome and should feel safe on here and welcomed.

I feel the only 1 issue if i have to be picky is some tv women place their gender as women, and not tv, which i dont agree with.

But everyone on this site should feel welcome and safe.

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By *odkaboy2Man
over a year ago

bristol

Of course you belong and it would be a poorer site without TV, TS etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the whole I have felt welcome on here (though there have been a few obnoxious comments).

I do feel there should be a distinction between TV and trans though.

As others have said trans are those who are undergoing a gender change for whatever reason.

TV are people who like to express and present themselves as the opposite sex but without the transition.

I am definitely in the TV camp. I am smooth pretty much all the time. I love to dress and pose as a woman. I act as feminine as I can.

I am even making my body as feminine as I can without full transition.

But, I don't want to change my gender.

To be honest, we probably do need a crossdresser option too as in my experience that tends to be where a lot of people are...

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By *aria_dreamgirl OP TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Crossdresser option is too vague as whilst it may include tgirls it would undoubtedly cover guys who just want to wear ladies lingerie rather than portraying themselves as women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sleep well. X"

Did! Thank you

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

Thing is you have to watch These trannies they're devious types..they slowly infiltrate these sites... before you know it..every bloke on here is wearing women's clothes...and they've renamed the site fab trannies..

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

Most definitely welcome

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By *lues eyesMan
over a year ago

tiverton

Any one near Tiverton because I welcome you xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Crossdresser option is too vague as whilst it may include tgirls it would undoubtedly cover guys who just want to wear ladies lingerie rather than portraying themselves as women. "

I was thinking options for crossdresser, TV and Trans separate?

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By *pace DoubtMan
over a year ago

Ilford

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

Of course you belong, and if anyone tells you otherwise, block and report them immediately, and don’t bother with arguing with bigots to justify your existence. They won’t change, but a site ban of them makes this a better place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

swinging is for all no matter of your sex your gender your sexual orientation your kink ...ALL make the swinging family

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By *igletMan
over a year ago

manchester

I enjoy full dress up but I’m totally straight and wouldn’t identify as tv on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Crossdresser option is too vague as whilst it may include tgirls it would undoubtedly cover guys who just want to wear ladies lingerie rather than portraying themselves as women.

I was thinking options for crossdresser, TV and Trans separate?"

totally agree wiyh this

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By *urtyDoggerMan
over a year ago

Colchester and surrounding

Everyone belongs here, we all have something to offer, we are a collective

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would simply pose the question whether we belong on this site.So many forums seem to be trans controversial. "

We spend a reasonable amount of time on the forums and Having spoken agree that we have never seen what you describe.

Perhaps you are over sensitive or maybe you are attempting to trigger people?

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By *aria_dreamgirl OP TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Typically I'm not able to respond to someone who questions my motives for raising this question.

If I'm sensitive it's because certain people are transphobic.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

Yes we belong. Yes there is lots hate tv/ts in here equally as must as they hate gay / bi men.

Thankfully no one should give zero fucks what internet strangers think / view is as. They are just insignificant like insects and serve no relevance to life so don’t even register these types

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"Yes we belong. Yes there is lots hate tv/ts in here equally as must as they hate gay / bi men.

Thankfully no one should give zero fucks what internet strangers think / view is as. They are just insignificant like insects and serve no relevance to life so don’t even register these types

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By *aughtycpl276927Couple
over a year ago

PRESTON

Of course you do and I really don’t understand why people would think otherwise!

We’ve talked about it and it’s definitely something we’d be interested in!

J.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Crossdresser option is too vague as whilst it may include tgirls it would undoubtedly cover guys who just want to wear ladies lingerie rather than portraying themselves as women. "

What would you suggest?

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By *aria_dreamgirl OP TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I'd just suggest a category for trans inclusive regardless of categories

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbh I don’t think there IS an answer to suit all.

There have been many forum posts that have rapidly gone downhill with in-house fighting about who should be classed as what.

There appears to be a pecking order with the poor old HPW’s and cross dressers at the bottom of the pile.

How about supporting each other no matter where you are on the spectrum before you expect others to do the same?

Viv

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By *d_deeTV/TS
over a year ago

cheshire

I have been on 10 years, I prefer it to the other fab site as thats too full on.

I like this site more as I get straight males who want to be " straight" with me.

Would be nice for a cd/tv section on here though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tbh I don’t think there IS an answer to suit all.

There have been many forum posts that have rapidly gone downhill with in-house fighting about who should be classed as what.

There appears to be a pecking order with the poor old HPW’s and cross dressers at the bottom of the pile.

How about supporting each other no matter where you are on the spectrum before you expect others to do the same?

Viv"

I was hoping someone would pick up on this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was hoping someone would pick up on this.

Thank you (again!) x

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By *rKingsmanMan
over a year ago

sutton

You defo belong here! Everyone belongs here c

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You defo belong here! Everyone belongs here c"

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By *essica trueTV/TS
over a year ago

blackpool

Yes tgirls belong on here for sure x

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