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"Truthfully don't think would meet, 600 is an awful lot and no matter how many precautions take still more chance of something being passed on. Well that's our thoughts. " We are thinking the same, on several occasions they've met 10 to 15 guys in one night. | |||
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"Truthfully don't think would meet, 600 is an awful lot and no matter how many precautions take still more chance of something being passed on. Well that's our thoughts. We are thinking the same, on several occasions they've met 10 to 15 guys in one night. " I've not got many on this profile... mostly as its only a few years old. .I've often met 20 or more guys in one night . Sometimes several times a week... however, I can assure you most of those guys aren't on fab, so won't verify me. I also don't subscribe to the no matter how safe you are, your going to catch something. I've been swinging and partaking in gangbangs for over 20 years... when I'm active, I'm tested every month .. I use condoms for full sex and don't allow guys to finish inside me even in a condom. I prefer it on my face. Yes I suck cock without but rarely take cum in mouth.. I've never tested positive for anything If someone being active bothers you then don't meet them... however I have a friend on here that only ever shows 10 verifications give or take. She often has multiple guys and couples... but you wouldn't know it. I also have a vanilla friend whose grand total of sexual partners is 4, she has had 2 sexually transmitted infections in the last 10 years. | |||
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"I would still meet her probably but I would put on a extra condom just for good luck" i would think that someone will tell you to f**k off .... | |||
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"I would still meet her probably but I would put on a extra condom just for good luck" No party without party hat m8 | |||
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"I would still meet her probably but I would put on a extra condom just for good luck i would think that someone will tell you to f**k off ...." I agree not to mention that two condoms is unsafe | |||
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"If you're looking for no strings sex, then surely a high veri count can only be seen as a good thing. If you're looking for something regular, then it might suggest they aren't for you. Horses for courses." why cant it be both ?? we have regular guys we got to know over the years and still look for others ?? | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... " Thus is a site for the sexually liberated so isn't that a sign of someone who genuinely loves this lifestyle? Why would it bother none? It's why we are here to explore.the sexual without judgement. | |||
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"I would say statistically speaking the more people you have met the more chance they have of having some form of sexually transmitted infection. So not meeting people with lots of veris would be a layer of protection. It is statically based though so even though it puts the odds more in your favour it is not a guarantee and there are loads of other factors. It is of course hou personal preference who you decide to meet or not. " so getting tested every 6 weeks is a total waste of time then ???... sorry but its those that play often are those most likely to get regular testing so that means your more than likely to get a std from those who dont meet often and think there ok as they cant catch a std if they dont meet often .... | |||
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"wow talk about assuming more meet more likely to have std ?? if like us you've been swinging 28 years (many more on here longer) then you had a lot of meets but we are tested every 6 weeks we are cleaner than most who have a meet here or there that dont test .....wow this post proves how shallow people can be" Yep... | |||
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"My own feeling is it's not necessarily about how many, it's what you do in terms of risk...600 plus partners practising safer sex ( condoms) for fucking is probably less risky than 2 who have barebacked .." Exactly this^^^^ | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... " You're assuming here that someone who displays 20 veris has had 20 meets then? Or that someone with 1 has only ever had sex once? That people don't have sex via other means than Fab? That people don't have bareback gangbangs weekly but don't do it via here so that people aren't aware? That everyone who asks to meet you will have a fully visible history of everyone they've been with, a list of every activity they've ever done, a full testing record........you get the picture? Sure. Make a judgement on someone who displays 600 veris. But someone else who displays two may be a far greater risk to you and your health. Such is life. A | |||
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"Getting tested doesn’t stop you getting anything, but just gives you a view at a point in time. If the people with lots of veris you were meeting got tested lots that would reduce the statically chance, however it only covers the periods straight after. If you fucked an infinite number of people you would die in every conceivable way doing it and catch every conceivable infection. If you don’t fuck anyone nothing happen. It’s just how things work statistically." And you can die quicker crossing the road | |||
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"Getting tested doesn’t stop you getting anything, but just gives you a view at a point in time. If the people with lots of veris you were meeting got tested lots that would reduce the statically chance, however it only covers the periods straight after. If you fucked an infinite number of people you would die in every conceivable way doing it and catch every conceivable infection. If you don’t fuck anyone nothing happen. It’s just how things work statistically. And you can die quicker crossing the road " Yes that is correct, the more things we do the likely we are to die. That doesn’t stop us doing things, but we naturally risk assess everything. Swinging has a risk of getting sexually related ailments so you need to assess the risks and decide what risks you are willing to take. If you fuck an infinite number of people a car will run you over killing you. My comments are based on actual facts that cannot be changed. | |||
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"but we naturally risk assess everything. Swinging has a risk of getting sexually related ailments so you need to assess the risks and decide what risks you are willing to take. My comments are based on actual facts that cannot be changed." No. Having sex has a risk of getting 'sexually related ailments'. Do you not think, given that the majority of the population aren't swingers that it's statistically as likely that the majority of STD's are transmitted between non-swinging individuals? Casual sex happens. One night stands happen. Affairs happen. STD's happen. Having been on here for 14 years and swinging for a few more than that I can pretty much guarantee you that those seriously involved are far more likely to get tested regularly than those in vanilla life, who will generally only do so once symptoms appear - which is often too late. And yes. People can make their own assessments based on whatever they want, including veris. But the idea that you can assume that anything you see on here reflects a true picture of someone's sexual activity is hilarious. A | |||
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"but we naturally risk assess everything. Swinging has a risk of getting sexually related ailments so you need to assess the risks and decide what risks you are willing to take. My comments are based on actual facts that cannot be changed. No. Having sex has a risk of getting 'sexually related ailments'. Do you not think, given that the majority of the population aren't swingers that it's statistically as likely that the majority of STD's are transmitted between non-swinging individuals? Casual sex happens. One night stands happen. Affairs happen. STD's happen. Having been on here for 14 years and swinging for a few more than that I can pretty much guarantee you that those seriously involved are far more likely to get tested regularly than those in vanilla life, who will generally only do so once symptoms appear - which is often too late. And yes. People can make their own assessments based on whatever they want, including veris. But the idea that you can assume that anything you see on here reflects a true picture of someone's sexual activity is hilarious. A" You can’t disagree that the more people you have sex with increases the chance of you catching something, no matter how safe you are? That is a fact. If I like swinging, but want to be safe I use what information I have to make an informed decision. If I see a profile with someone having unprotected sex with lots of different people then I can use that information to make a choice. If I see they have a significant amount of meets I can use that I formation to make a choice. These are just facts and the way of the world!!! | |||
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" You can’t disagree that the more people you have sex with increases the chance of you catching something, no matter how safe you are? That is a fact. If I like swinging, but want to be safe I use what information I have to make an informed decision. If I see a profile with someone having unprotected sex with lots of different people then I can use that information to make a choice. If I see they have a significant amount of meets I can use that I formation to make a choice. These are just facts and the way of the world!!!" You can call anything you want a 'fact' but it doesn't make it one. And I can disagree with your assertion that the more people you have sex with the more likely you are to catch something. That's bullshit. If you have protected sex with 100 people who all also have protected sex 100% of the time then your risk is lower than if you have unprotected sex with 5 people who always have unprotected sex. Seeing someone who has lots of meets only gives you a partial picture. It doesn't always tell you what happened - protected or not, anal, oral, exchange of bodily fluids......few veris go into that much detail. Just because you don't see something on a profile or in a veri doesn't mean it didn't happen. Swing how you choose. But don't start claiming 'facts are facts' because they're not. A | |||
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" You can’t disagree that the more people you have sex with increases the chance of you catching something, no matter how safe you are? That is a fact. If I like swinging, but want to be safe I use what information I have to make an informed decision. If I see a profile with someone having unprotected sex with lots of different people then I can use that information to make a choice. If I see they have a significant amount of meets I can use that I formation to make a choice. These are just facts and the way of the world!!! You can call anything you want a 'fact' but it doesn't make it one. And I can disagree with your assertion that the more people you have sex with the more likely you are to catch something. That's bullshit. If you have protected sex with 100 people who all also have protected sex 100% of the time then your risk is lower than if you have unprotected sex with 5 people who always have unprotected sex. Seeing someone who has lots of meets only gives you a partial picture. It doesn't always tell you what happened - protected or not, anal, oral, exchange of bodily fluids......few veris go into that much detail. Just because you don't see something on a profile or in a veri doesn't mean it didn't happen. Swing how you choose. But don't start claiming 'facts are facts' because they're not. A" Yes you are right, and we are moving into multi variable analysis there. However this discussion is based on one factor, number of meets. If I have sex with 100 people versus 1 person I am statistically more likely to have sex with someone who has an STI. If I have sex with 100 people versus 1 persons with a condom the condom is more likely to break. Therefore if I have sex with 100 people versus 1 then I am more likely to catch an stop via condom breakage. It’s a statistical fact. Go on a statists course and you will understand. | |||
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"If you're looking for no strings sex, then surely a high veri count can only be seen as a good thing. If you're looking for something regular, then it might suggest they aren't for you. Horses for courses. why cant it be both ?? we have regular guys we got to know over the years and still look for others ??" Of course it can be both, that's why I said "it might suggest" | |||
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"You are also assuming a condom is some kind of magic protection device. Bodily contact passes viruses, simple." it must help..I've met thousands ,use condoms and regular testing | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... " That is one hell of a lot of meets... | |||
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" You can’t disagree that the more people you have sex with increases the chance of you catching something, no matter how safe you are? That is a fact. If I like swinging, but want to be safe I use what information I have to make an informed decision. If I see a profile with someone having unprotected sex with lots of different people then I can use that information to make a choice. If I see they have a significant amount of meets I can use that I formation to make a choice. These are just facts and the way of the world!!! You can call anything you want a 'fact' but it doesn't make it one. And I can disagree with your assertion that the more people you have sex with the more likely you are to catch something. That's bullshit. If you have protected sex with 100 people who all also have protected sex 100% of the time then your risk is lower than if you have unprotected sex with 5 people who always have unprotected sex. Seeing someone who has lots of meets only gives you a partial picture. It doesn't always tell you what happened - protected or not, anal, oral, exchange of bodily fluids......few veris go into that much detail. Just because you don't see something on a profile or in a veri doesn't mean it didn't happen. Swing how you choose. But don't start claiming 'facts are facts' because they're not. A Yes you are right, and we are moving into multi variable analysis there. However this discussion is based on one factor, number of meets. If I have sex with 100 people versus 1 person I am statistically more likely to have sex with someone who has an STI. If I have sex with 100 people versus 1 persons with a condom the condom is more likely to break. Therefore if I have sex with 100 people versus 1 then I am more likely to catch an stop via condom breakage. It’s a statistical fact. Go on a statists course and you will understand. " But you can prove anything with statistics. Always been the case, and theory isn't always accurate in reality. Take 100 couples. They get marries and for the first two years after marriage all of them live in monogamous relationships. So no sex with anyone else at all. So no transmission of any STD's. Two years after marriage all 100 couples become swingers and start fucking each other daily, but nobody outside that group of 200 people. Now bearing in mind they all started STD free.....what's the risk of any of them catching anything? Now take one couple. They get married and from day one start swinging every week, fucking singles, couples and groups. People from anywhere that they don't know. Who is more likely to catch something? Those fucking daily or weekly? Because, well.....one is having more meets than the other. This discussion wasn't just based on number of meets was it, even though at first glance it may have seemed to be. As you say. Multi variable analysis is important. And unavoidable no matter how you try...... A | |||
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" You can’t disagree that the more people you have sex with increases the chance of you catching something, no matter how safe you are? That is a fact. If I like swinging, but want to be safe I use what information I have to make an informed decision. If I see a profile with someone having unprotected sex with lots of different people then I can use that information to make a choice. If I see they have a significant amount of meets I can use that I formation to make a choice. These are just facts and the way of the world!!! You can call anything you want a 'fact' but it doesn't make it one. And I can disagree with your assertion that the more people you have sex with the more likely you are to catch something. That's bullshit. If you have protected sex with 100 people who all also have protected sex 100% of the time then your risk is lower than if you have unprotected sex with 5 people who always have unprotected sex. Seeing someone who has lots of meets only gives you a partial picture. It doesn't always tell you what happened - protected or not, anal, oral, exchange of bodily fluids......few veris go into that much detail. Just because you don't see something on a profile or in a veri doesn't mean it didn't happen. Swing how you choose. But don't start claiming 'facts are facts' because they're not. A Yes you are right, and we are moving into multi variable analysis there. However this discussion is based on one factor, number of meets. If I have sex with 100 people versus 1 person I am statistically more likely to have sex with someone who has an STI. If I have sex with 100 people versus 1 persons with a condom the condom is more likely to break. Therefore if I have sex with 100 people versus 1 then I am more likely to catch an stop via condom breakage. It’s a statistical fact. Go on a statists course and you will understand. But you can prove anything with statistics. Always been the case, and theory isn't always accurate in reality. Take 100 couples. They get marries and for the first two years after marriage all of them live in monogamous relationships. So no sex with anyone else at all. So no transmission of any STD's. Two years after marriage all 100 couples become swingers and start fucking each other daily, but nobody outside that group of 200 people. Now bearing in mind they all started STD free.....what's the risk of any of them catching anything? Now take one couple. They get married and from day one start swinging every week, fucking singles, couples and groups. People from anywhere that they don't know. Who is more likely to catch something? Those fucking daily or weekly? Because, well.....one is having more meets than the other. This discussion wasn't just based on number of meets was it, even though at first glance it may have seemed to be. As you say. Multi variable analysis is important. And unavoidable no matter how you try...... A" But we don’t have that information action, we only know they have 600 plus veris. I am 100% right here, I do statics as let of my job. You can throw in extra information to change the result but we do not have that information. | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... That is one hell of a lot of meets... " Not that many if someone has been active for 10 years x | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... That is one hell of a lot of meets... Not that many if someone has been active for 10 years x" I’d say at least a new veri every week for ten years is a lot! | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... That is one hell of a lot of meets... Not that many if someone has been active for 10 years x I’d say at least a new veri every week for ten years is a lot!" lol really.... wow .. but then I would be meeting a few a week every week if my current circumstances allowed | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... That is one hell of a lot of meets... Not that many if someone has been active for 10 years x I’d say at least a new veri every week for ten years is a lot! lol really.... wow .. but then I would be meeting a few a week every week if my current circumstances allowed " We’ll try being a male on here; that’s Barry white esque territory… | |||
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"+600 verifications = experienced long term swinger. Experience counts for everything. Regular sexual health checks means it would not matter... " Not if it didn't teach them anything | |||
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" But we don’t have that information action, we only know they have 600 plus veris. I am 100% right here, I do statics as let of my job. You can throw in extra information to change the result but we do not have that information." We do. The OP said 'from sex meets, not socials'. So your data is already more than just volume of meets. You 'do statistics' and you didn't spot this? I'd say that knocks a fair few % points off your 100. A | |||
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" But we don’t have that information action, we only know they have 600 plus veris. I am 100% right here, I do statics as let of my job. You can throw in extra information to change the result but we do not have that information. We do. The OP said 'from sex meets, not socials'. So your data is already more than just volume of meets. You 'do statistics' and you didn't spot this? I'd say that knocks a fair few % points off your 100. A" No matter what I say you will argue against the fact that I am right…. Which I am. Fair point on the additional info, which increases the probability of an undesired outcome. | |||
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"wow talk about assuming more meet more likely to have std ?? if like us you've been swinging 28 years (many more on here longer) then you had a lot of meets but we are tested every 6 weeks we are cleaner than most who have a meet here or there that dont test .....wow this post proves how shallow people can be" I agree! Swingers are supposed to be easy-going and nonjudgmental, but that could not be further from the truth. | |||
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" But we don’t have that information action, we only know they have 600 plus veris. I am 100% right here, I do statics as let of my job. You can throw in extra information to change the result but we do not have that information. We do. The OP said 'from sex meets, not socials'. So your data is already more than just volume of meets. You 'do statistics' and you didn't spot this? I'd say that knocks a fair few % points off your 100. A No matter what I say you will argue against the fact that I am right…. Which I am. Fair point on the additional info, which increases the probability of an undesired outcome." I'd stop arguing if you were right though. If the question was purely down to 600 meets vs 1 then yes, you'd be right. But it's not. We already have the extra info that these are sex meets rather than socials. If It was 600 social meets vs 1 then there'd be no additional risk at all. Trying to over simplify scenarios to prove something statistically true is both pointless and dangerous. Nothing is ever black and white. There is always more data. You just have to look for it. A | |||
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" But we don’t have that information action, we only know they have 600 plus veris. I am 100% right here, I do statics as let of my job. You can throw in extra information to change the result but we do not have that information. We do. The OP said 'from sex meets, not socials'. So your data is already more than just volume of meets. You 'do statistics' and you didn't spot this? I'd say that knocks a fair few % points off your 100. A No matter what I say you will argue against the fact that I am right…. Which I am. Fair point on the additional info, which increases the probability of an undesired outcome. I'd stop arguing if you were right though. If the question was purely down to 600 meets vs 1 then yes, you'd be right. But it's not. We already have the extra info that these are sex meets rather than socials. If It was 600 social meets vs 1 then there'd be no additional risk at all. Trying to over simplify scenarios to prove something statistically true is both pointless and dangerous. Nothing is ever black and white. There is always more data. You just have to look for it. A" I’m still right though. The more veris you have from sexual encounters statistically increases the chances of a sexual related infection. So if that’s the OP’s concern, then it should increase their concern. | |||
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"Re: statistics. If you insist on excluding known other contributing factors, then your analysis and therefore results are either fundamentally flawed, or at least need to be heavily caveated. Yes or no?" Oh shhhhhhh. All sexual acts carry the same risk of course. I mean protected is as risky as unprotected. A BJ is as dangerous as bare anal. And a good fingerbang can be really risky if you haven't washed your hands since jacking off the local rugby team. Everything sexual can kill you. A | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... " Hi op I’ve read some but not all of the comments. At the end of the day it’s irrelevant what we all think. She may get tested very regularly - she may not. If you’re uncomfortable at the prospect of meeting her - then don’t. You’re not going to have a wonderful time with her if you’re plagued with doubts. If I feel uncertain about someone I don’t ‘ask the audience’ - I just don’t meet them. Hugs Peachy x | |||
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"Re: statistics. If you insist on excluding known other contributing factors, then your analysis and therefore results are either fundamentally flawed, or at least need to be heavily caveated. Yes or no?" I’ll admit I got stuck on my statistics high horse and missed the sex only verifications, but taking into account the available facts, 600 over 1 bares greater risk. | |||
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"Re: statistics. If you insist on excluding known other contributing factors, then your analysis and therefore results are either fundamentally flawed, or at least need to be heavily caveated. Yes or no? Oh shhhhhhh. All sexual acts carry the same risk of course. I mean protected is as risky as unprotected. A BJ is as dangerous as bare anal. And a good fingerbang can be really risky if you haven't washed your hands since jacking off the local rugby team. Everything sexual can kill you. A" The number of sexual verifications is one layer of protection | |||
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"I'd be wondering how they get the time along with normal life " its very easy to get 30plus verifications in one club visit | |||
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"Truthfully don't think would meet, 600 is an awful lot and no matter how many precautions take still more chance of something being passed on. Well that's our thoughts. We are thinking the same, on several occasions they've met 10 to 15 guys in one night. I've not got many on this profile... mostly as its only a few years old. .I've often met 20 or more guys in one night . Sometimes several times a week... however, I can assure you most of those guys aren't on fab, so won't verify me. I also don't subscribe to the no matter how safe you are, your going to catch something. I've been swinging and partaking in gangbangs for over 20 years... when I'm active, I'm tested every month .. I use condoms for full sex and don't allow guys to finish inside me even in a condom. I prefer it on my face. Yes I suck cock without but rarely take cum in mouth.. I've never tested positive for anything If someone being active bothers you then don't meet them... however I have a friend on here that only ever shows 10 verifications give or take. She often has multiple guys and couples... but you wouldn't know it. I also have a vanilla friend whose grand total of sexual partners is 4, she has had 2 sexually transmitted infections in the last 10 years. " | |||
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"How do you feel about meeting a single person or couple with over 600 verifications from sex meets, not socials? Would you meet a person who had recently met them? Would like others input or views. We are of the belief that you live and let live, it's none of our business what others get up to...until it involves us when they ask to meet us... " If they have more than 4 veris showing I won't meet them. I don't care if they are sex reviews or social veris. I prefer to meet private people. I don't care if they have fucked 1 or 10,000 people. | |||
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"+600 verifications = experienced long term swinger. Experience counts for everything. Regular sexual health checks means it would not matter... Not if it didn't teach them anything " Very true... One hopes they would have learnt skills along the way... | |||
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