FabSwingers.com forum: Women and Bi Men

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Reading through a number of profiles and finding a lot of women preferring not to hear from bi men, wondered to the reason of this, perhaps STD's?

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

Does it matter why? They don't want to - that's their preference. End of.

If I were you I'd concentrate on those who DO want to meet bi guys ... there are plenty about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well some I guess think its weird but just check if they meet women two faced springs to mind for many

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does it matter why? They don't want to - that's their preference. End of.

If I were you I'd concentrate on those who DO want to meet bi guys ... there are plenty about

Lol you won't get a better answer than that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer to meet bi men, preferably 2 at a time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi Jack

This subject as been talked abut every week since i can remember and you will get many varying replies.

Bi men are generally percived as being "dirty old men" (regardless of age) where as Bi women are percived as being dead sexy and erotic ---- we cant win lol

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I walk through my swinging life with my head held high, if people want to meet me.... great. If not, that is also fine, I wish them well and much fun.

I will show them the same respect and hopefully them me.

If people are disingenuous, says more about them than it does about me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello, i've tried this one trust me its not worth it. Let the "supposedly" straight men find you as they will.... Oh you want women, good luck with that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as an openly bi male on the site idont seem to have a problem finding meets and dont let it bother me if people dont want to meet bi men i just move on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Interesting selection of replies...reading the first couple of posts I was ready to go retreat back to my cave with my head hung in shame!

Cheers again..

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By *aulus1969ukMan
over a year ago

Skelmersdale

As far as it goes it is just their preference. Some people don't meet mature men / women, some like hairy, some like smooth, some like... you get the idea.

Don't dwell on it and respect peoples choices. Then you will find people who want to have the right kind of fun.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"wondered to the reason of this, perhaps STD's?"

Gone are the day's of the 80s / 90s when a fook was more important than one's health.

In "Our" experience, nowadays men are much more concerned / protective about their health.

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

"Interesting selection of replies...reading the first couple of posts I was ready to go retreat back to my cave with my head hung in shame!

Cheers again.."

You don't mean my post do you? I intended it to be very positive

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol I may well have been including your reply...and apologies for not spotting the smilie!

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

"Lol I may well have been including your reply...and apologies for not spotting the smilie!"

Accepted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I prefer to meet bi men, preferably 2 at a time

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

aint got no problem with bi guys at all and there are loads of others who dont either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wondered to the reason of this, perhaps STD's?

Gone are the day's of the 80s / 90s when a fook was more important than one's health.

In "Our" experience, nowadays men are much more concerned / protective about their health."

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By *aul96Man
over a year ago

wirral

miss julie...can you use that strapon...hehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a lot of women just dont like the thought of playing with a guy who plays with other men, some see bi guys as lesser men and they want a 'real' man

I dont think its anything to do with STIs in many cases

myself i prefer bi men, its very rare i do MMF with straigh guys i just find them incredibly boring in comparison to a MMF with two bi men, so even if i meet for a 1 on 1 i do tend to go for bi guys incase i wanmt to call on them another time for a 3sum

The thing is everyone likes different and your best to put you focus on those who do like you rather than wasting your time worrying why those who dont, dont

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think a lot of women just dont like the thought of playing with a guy who plays with other men, some see bi guys as lesser men and they want a 'real' man

I dont think its anything to do with STIs in many cases

The thing is everyone likes different and your best to put you focus on those who do like you rather than wasting your time worrying why those who dont, dont "

Wise words

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi

Reading through a number of profiles and finding a lot of women preferring not to hear from bi men, wondered to the reason of this, perhaps STD's?"

Yes. They perceive them as more risky.

Yet, I have NEVER met a married/straight guy yet, who has brought his own protection, while almost always, a bi-/gay guy will.

Go figure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like many I don't have a problem with meeting bi guy's who openly state their preference. I do however have a problem with those who pretend to be straight just to get a meet!

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By *allen MadonnaWoman
over a year ago

In my own little world

i love bi guys. soooo much fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, I was wondering why you immediately chose potential STD's as your reason for women not meeting bi guys?

I thin MaughtyNympos had probably hit the nail on the head much closer when she says that women who won't met bi-guys are probably _iewing them as lesser men, which is just nonsense.

Having said all that, everyone is entitled to their own preferences and opinions so whatever their reasons, good luck to them.

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By *orkscrew CurlsWoman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

I would meet bisexual men, but of all single guys I find them to be the least reliable, most likely to cancel. So far have not managed the fantasy bi-mmf.

I think the reluctance for people to meet bi males is that they find their sexual activities distasteful, and know that the acts they enjoy would flash across their minds during play, and be a turn off.

As far as STI's, this is a possible explanation - it is one of the routine questions asked at the GUM clinic. Have you had sex with prostitutes, foreigners, intravenous drug users or bisexuals? The level of risk for these groups are higher.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would meet bisexual men, but of all single guys I find them to be the least reliable, most likely to cancel. So far have not managed the fantasy bi-mmf.

Veering off the original post and more to this one, I was extremely confused when I visited the GUM clinic in July. It was only my 2nd ever visit, my first being in my early 20s. The advice I was given was that most people with HIV are Africans, asian(as in Thai etc) and eastern Europeans and bi men. She also told me that most HIV positive people tend to stick within their own circles, ie other HIV positive people. I thought this was bad advice but she told me it was absolutely the case when I questioned her. Is she wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will be honest and say that I tend to mostly meet straight guys when I play one on one or dfor 3sums. I do actually find that being bi does make me _iew them different to straight men. It's a perceived _iew that they are not how I like my men and I _iew it as quite submissive which I don't find attractive.

I do know at group meets many are bi but I mmake it clear I don't want guys to behave bi in front of me. As I don't want to see guys together

Everyone I am sure has there own reasons

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe it's because of the same reason alot of men are total homophobes. They seem to think that all bi men and gay men want to touch their cock? Far from the truth. I'm not bi myself but I was consider myself open to it. And I feel more comfortable being around bi men during sex than straight men.

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london

All men are bi.

There are those who are man enough to be honest and those that arent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All men are bi.

There are those who are man enough to be honest and those that arent

That's so untrue. Not all men are at all.

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london

"All men are bi.

There are those who are man enough to be honest and those that arent

That's so untrue. Not all men are at all."
oh yes they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can assure you that there is no evidence to suggest that at all. Many men like many women have no interest in the same sex. In fact for some same sex is actually something they find repulsive

So it's a claim that can not be justified. Not one little bit

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london

"I can assure you that there is no evidence to suggest that at all. Many men like many women have no interest in the same sex. In fact for some same sex is actually something they find repulsive

So it's a claim that can not be justified. Not one little bit

Oh yes it can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had enough of panto this week thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would love to have a MMF with two fully bi gents!

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

ding dong !! .. round 2 !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well some I guess think its weird but just check if they meet women two faced springs to mind for many "

How on Earth is a bi woman who meets bi women being two face just because she doesn't meet bi men?

There's a world of difference in every way.

You might just as well say that as she's bi she should also indulge in bestiality or something equally obscure.

The only similarity between bi men and bi women is being bi!

XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's up to them, no reasons need to be given , nor sought, choice, personal, is all that needs to be considered.

Why you think anyone who may have the slightest Bi tendency is an STI riddled harbinger of death though is somewhat more beyond my understanding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No doubt jealous of our oral prowess!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mind you if you think women have a problem with it check out this out from someone who messaged us.

" with respect i dont do bi i dont fuck any woman who fucks bi guys i dont fuck any women who fuck straight guys who fuck women whos partners are bi u get dat shit so stop asking "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So he isn't getting much of anything then!

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By *orkscrew CurlsWoman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

BBC News 29th Nov 2012

The number of gay and bisexual men being diagnosed with HIV in the UK reached an "all-time high" in 2011, according to the Health Protection Agency (HPA).

It said there had been a "worrying" trend since 2007, with more and more new cases each year.

Nearly half of the 6,280 people diagnosed last year were men who had sex with other men (MSM).

Overall, one in 20 MSM are infected with HIV.

Of those diagnosed in 2011, nearly two-thirds had not been to a sexual health clinic in the previous three years.

The HPA said the figures showed there was "room for improvement" in testing people in at-risk groups.

Dr Valerie Delpech, the organisation's head of HIV surveillance, told the BBC: "Obviously this is a serious illness and it is worrying that we're still seeing a lot in men who have sex with men and this is a record year.

"Transmission in the UK is largely sexual, so safe sex is the best way to prevent yourself getting HIV."

Rising

The total number of people living with HIV in the UK rose to 96,000, up from 91,500 the previous year. The issue is most intense in London.

Due to advances in drug treatment, having HIV should not affect life-expectancy.

However, the data suggests that one in four people with HIV are completely unaware of the infection, meaning they cannot receive treatment and may still be spreading the virus.

The chief executive of the National Aids Trust, Deborah Jack, said: "It is vitally important that gay men test at least once a year for STIs [sexually transmitted infections] and HIV, and every three months if they're having unprotected sex with new or casual partners.

"HIV-negative gay men diagnosed with an STI should really treat it as a 'wake up call'. You are at serious risk of getting HIV in the near future and need to take steps to prevent that happening - such as consistent condom use and reduction in number of sexual partners."

Sir Nick Partridge, the chief executive at the Terrence Higgins Trust, said: "HIV is an entirely preventable condition, yet each year we see thousands more people across the UK receive this life-changing diagnosis.

"Reducing undiagnosed HIV by encouraging those in high-risk groups to test more regularly is one way we can put the brakes on the spread of infection."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Overall, one in 20 MSM are infected with HIV."

Is that 1 in 20 of the MSM that have been in for testing? I hardly think it is 1 in 20 of ALL men who have had sex with other men. Many don't get tested because they are in monogamous relationships. It's a dodgy statistic, as it paints a worse picture than it actually is. But if it makes people clean up their act, thats fine.

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By *uicyjaynkinkykayCouple
over a year ago

slough

Hi all .. I'm a bi male and have a st8 wife . I didn't push my bi side onto anyone.. But yes there is a thing bout bi men xxxx

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

"I walk through my swinging life with my head held high, if people want to meet me.... great. If not, that is also fine, I wish them well and much fun.

I will show them the same respect and hopefully them me.

If people are disingenuous, says more about them than it does about me."

The wisdom of View

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"BBC News 29th Nov 2012

The number of gay and bisexual men being diagnosed with HIV in the UK reached an "all-time high" in 2011, according to the Health Protection Agency (HPA).

It said there had been a "worrying" trend since 2007, with more and more new cases each year.

Nearly half of the 6,280 people diagnosed last year were men who had sex with other men (MSM).

Overall, one in 20 MSM are infected with HIV.

Of those diagnosed in 2011, nearly two-thirds had not been to a sexual health clinic in the previous three years.

The HPA said the figures showed there was "room for improvement" in testing people in at-risk groups.

"Transmission in the UK is largely sexual, so safe sex is the best way to prevent yourself getting HIV."

Rising

The total number of people living with HIV in the UK rose to 96,000, up from 91,500 the previous year. The issue is most intense in London.

Due to advances in drug treatment, having HIV should not affect life-expectancy.

However, the data suggests that one in four people with HIV are completely unaware of the infection, meaning they cannot receive treatment and may still be spreading the virus.

"Reducing undiagnosed HIV by encouraging those in high-risk groups to test more regularly is one way we can put the brakes on the spread of infection.""
According to the latest (2008) WHO and UNAIDS global estimates, women comprise 50% of people living with HIV.

In sub-Saharan Africa, women constitute 60% of people living with HIV. In other regions, men having sex with men (MSM), injecting drug users (IDU), sex workers and their clients are among those most-at-risk for HIV, but the proportion of women living with HIV has been increasing in the last 10 years.

This includes married or regular partners of clients of commercial sex, IDU and MSM, as well as female sex workers and injecting drug users.

Anyone can copy and past a fact I suppose people should stop sleeping with black women according to this report seeing as they carry 60% of the HIV

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In 2010, an estimated 91,500 people were living with HIV in the UK. Of these, around a quarter were unaware of their HIV infection.

The overall proportion of people living with HIV in the UK is estimated to be 0.15%, or 1 in 650. The proportion of men living with HIV in the UK is estimated to be 0.20%, or 1 in 500, while the proportion of women living with HIV in the UK is estimated to be 0.09%, or 1 in 1000.

This information is based on the Health Protection Agency’s calculations for 2010 as seen in their HIV in the United Kingdom: 2011 Report.

Just another copy and paste fact file women aren't far behind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dunno in my experiance as a bi male bi people tend to be more discriminated against than gays and from both communities (gay and straight)

if your a bi girl your straight and doing ti for attention off men and if your a guy your gay and too scared to admit it : /

just gotta take it in its stride and hope to be accepted one day until then just gotta put up with the discrimination

and as far as it being "preference" with single women i dont understand this. If its a solo 1 on 1 meet the guy isnt going to be doing any "gay" activities and can be just as "manly" or "ladish" as a straight guy. Its ignorance in my opinion. I speak my mind and wont sugar coat it its not the same as a color preference as a gay straight or bi guy can look or act any way, there is no legit reason i can think of for knocking back a bi guy from a 1 on 1 meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i dunno in my experiance as a bi male bi people tend to be more discriminated against than gays and from both communities (gay and straight)

if your a bi girl your straight and doing ti for attention off men and if your a guy your gay and too scared to admit it : /

just gotta take it in its stride and hope to be accepted one day until then just gotta put up with the discrimination"

Agree. Bi people aren't generally accepted by either the straight or gay communities...

"and as far as it being "preference" with single women i dont understand this. If its a solo 1 on 1 meet the guy isnt going to be doing any "gay" activities and can be just as "manly" or "ladish" as a straight guy. Its ignorance in my opinion. I speak my mind and wont sugar coat it its not the same as a color preference as a gay straight or bi guy can look or act any way, there is no legit reason i can think of for knocking back a bi guy from a 1 on 1 meet"

Disagree. If a straight woman doesn't want to play with me because I'm bi, good for her. It's her choice. Whether she's bothered that I might fancy her or try to touch her or she just doesn't want to.... I totally respect her wishes. That's her choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a lot of guy are just orally bi - think that might alter some _iews of the higher risk element side of things -

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By *incs-cpl1Couple
over a year ago

Peterborough

Each to their own, and for their own reasons.

Although it would be foolish to take profiles at face value as 95% of all guys wanting to suck Mr Lincs' cock have "straight" profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi

Reading through a number of profiles and finding a lot of women preferring not to hear from bi men, wondered to the reason of this, perhaps STD's?"

Can't believe the ignorance...why does being bi = std...surely the amount of unsafe sex a person of any preference has has more to do with std risk...honestly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi

Reading through a number of profiles and finding a lot of women preferring not to hear from bi men, wondered to the reason of this, perhaps STD's?

Can't believe the ignorance...why does being bi = std...surely the amount of unsafe sex a person of any preference has has more to do with std risk...honestly

Swingers are also alot higher risk yet here they are swinging......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only had STI's from women not same sex, what is the issue? "him"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We used to frequent a local "lifestyle free" club mainly used by gays of both sexes.

We had friends among each group, when talking to some of the guys they told us of a well known woodland area used by gay guys for dogging.

What they said was that the bi guys who turned up were, for the most part, downright scary as far as their sexual morality was concerned.

Many boasted that their wives knew nothing of their "other life", yet their attitude to sex was so cavalier that most of the regular gay guys steered clear.

We just couldn't understand why they'd do the things they do and then go home to risk the health or even lives of the ones they profess to love!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We love it all and get off on women who are turned on watching us snog, wank, suck and if ok by her fuck :D And we love 3 way group snogging!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My fella is bi, I love watching him with another guy but he also swings very straight so its annoying when people are put off, he's not going to pounce on every guy he meets, it has to be mutual. He has high standards

STI??? That's a stupid reason, loads of straight people do bareback on here, is there a rule that bi men are unsafe?? Coz my fella is super safe no matter who he's with, I think its a very small minded, ignorant minority with this _iew.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The number of gay and bisexual men being diagnosed with HIV in the UK reached an "all-time high" in 2011, according to the Health Protection Agency (HPA). Nearly half of the 6,280 people diagnosed last year were men who had sex with other men (MSM). "

I do think journalists, even the BBC, have a problem with sex statistics. If nearly half of the 6,280 were MSMs, who were the others? Surely OVER half of the new diagnoses were straight women and men and gay women and men? Who else is there? Not so shocking a statistic now is it?

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