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It seems taboo on here white women into black guys ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Why is this such a delicate topic? Who cares if that's what a women wants ? White guys always making jokes . I find it quiet offensive and I'd be appalled if I was a black male . This should be normal in 2022

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmm haven't seen this myself, why bring it up

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

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I've never seen anything that would indicate that it's taboo on here. Are you sure you aren't just trying to stir up trouble op?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've never seen anything that would indicate that it's taboo on here. Are you sure you aren't just trying to stir up trouble op?"

It seems very frowned upon. As I said white men especially hi jacking posts .I'm white but we a couple very much into this scene and it seems people are rude about it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Put it this way it should be looked at no different from a couple or a women wanting to seek white guys

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By *iss KinkWoman
over a year ago

North West

Never seen that at all sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we on different sites?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Are we on different sites?"

Sorry it just come across it to me .. I think fab should have a section for interracial as most forums do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is this such a delicate topic? Who cares if that's what a women wants ? White guys always making jokes . I find it quiet offensive and I'd be appalled if I was a black male . This should be normal in 2022"

It's not taboo in the slightest and there's not been anything in the forums to suggest that it is why so are you trying to make it something that it isn't?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never seen this, I agree with the above are we on different sites?

Mrs

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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

OP, I cannot see any basis for your comments at all. Where is the problem and can you provide evidence for your assertions?

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By *omer47Man
over a year ago

leigh

Your profile says you are reserching?

Just what are you reserching op?

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"Why is this such a delicate topic? Who cares if that's what a women wants ? White guys always making jokes . I find it quiet offensive and I'd be appalled if I was a black male . This should be normal in 2022"

What exactly has you appalled ? Cos to everyone else there doesn’t appear to be an issue ??

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By *uicypeaches77Couple
over a year ago

Torquay

Drivel

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

If it is taboo why do clubs host events like dark desires, black magic, coffee and cream, BMFC etc ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It seems topics on this get shut down rather easily on other threads and everyone gets in a heated discussion. There's no need for it. Everyone's here for sex regardless of colour. It should be spoke about freely and not white men making silly remarks about BBC licence the TV channel etc. Then people saying you can't like this as it's fetishism etc. It gets out of hand you wouldn't say that if it was just a white male seeking a white female there would be no heated discussions about it that's all . You can see the evidence when you look at anything to do with BBC/interracial/Black guys etc. Just thought I'd say something as nobody else would . That's me done on the topic don't need to say anymore

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If it is taboo why do clubs host events like dark desires, black magic, coffee and cream, BMFC etc ?"

Yes that's great but I'm surprised people haven't said these clubs are fetishsized

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Your profile says you are reserching?

Just what are you reserching op?"

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Triggers for his clickbait website

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP - I can't say I have really notice any racial taunts on FAB's ever - have you had a bad experience yourself - if so report it

J xx

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"That's me done on the topic don't need to say anymore "

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So don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems topics on this get shut down rather easily on other threads and everyone gets in a heated discussion. There's no need for it. Everyone's here for sex regardless of colour. It should be spoke about freely and not white men making silly remarks about BBC licence the TV channel etc. Then people saying you can't like this as it's fetishism etc. It gets out of hand you wouldn't say that if it was just a white male seeking a white female there would be no heated discussions about it that's all . You can see the evidence when you look at anything to do with BBC/interracial/Black guys etc. Just thought I'd say something as nobody else would . That's me done on the topic don't need to say anymore "

Because most of the time the topics take a turn and end up with either people making borderline racist comments or making comments the fetishise black people

White people actually wanting to have sex with black people isn't taboo on the slightest.

It's when white people start saying certain things it becomes a problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your profile says you are reserching?

Just what are you reserching op?

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Triggers for his clickbait website "

Honestly!

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I'm surprised people haven't said these clubs are fetishsized "

What size is fetish ? I'm guessing huge

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It seems topics on this get shut down rather easily on other threads and everyone gets in a heated discussion. There's no need for it. Everyone's here for sex regardless of colour. It should be spoke about freely and not white men making silly remarks about BBC licence the TV channel etc. Then people saying you can't like this as it's fetishism etc. It gets out of hand you wouldn't say that if it was just a white male seeking a white female there would be no heated discussions about it that's all . You can see the evidence when you look at anything to do with BBC/interracial/Black guys etc. Just thought I'd say something as nobody else would . That's me done on the topic don't need to say anymore

Because most of the time the topics take a turn and end up with either people making borderline racist comments or making comments the fetishise black people

White people actually wanting to have sex with black people isn't taboo on the slightest.

It's when white people start saying certain things it becomes a problem."

So you get my point abit then ? People do say stuff?

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

Ah so when you say 'taboo' what you mean is:

"Why do a large proportion of people on fab seem to dislike the fetishization of someone due to X, Y or Z characteristic, in my case interracial sex"

1. Because noone should be fetishized because of a characteristic. It's weird and creepy (people shouldn't be fetishized on general)

2. Because your 'kink' is based on systemic racism and the perception that such a meeting in itself is 'taboo' and it isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems topics on this get shut down rather easily on other threads and everyone gets in a heated discussion. There's no need for it. Everyone's here for sex regardless of colour. It should be spoke about freely and not white men making silly remarks about BBC licence the TV channel etc. Then people saying you can't like this as it's fetishism etc. It gets out of hand you wouldn't say that if it was just a white male seeking a white female there would be no heated discussions about it that's all . You can see the evidence when you look at anything to do with BBC/interracial/Black guys etc. Just thought I'd say something as nobody else would . That's me done on the topic don't need to say anymore

Because most of the time the topics take a turn and end up with either people making borderline racist comments or making comments the fetishise black people

White people actually wanting to have sex with black people isn't taboo on the slightest.

It's when white people start saying certain things it becomes a problem.

So you get my point abit then ? People do say stuff?"

No your point was that white people wanting to have sex with black people is taboo.

I literally said twice now it's not.

Not sure how you've come to conclusion that I'm agreeing with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah so when you say 'taboo' what you mean is:

"Why do a large proportion of people on fab seem to dislike the fetishization of someone due to X, Y or Z characteristic, in my case interracial sex"

1. Because noone should be fetishized because of a characteristic. It's weird and creepy (people shouldn't be fetishized on general)

2. Because your 'kink' is based on systemic racism and the perception that such a meeting in itself is 'taboo' and it isn't. "

Hit the nail on the head

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing I seen suggests anything taboo about it, sounds more like the OP gets off using a wooden spoon to try stirring up imaginary issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m guessing you are one of these woke snowflake types who feel the need to stand up for anything black related. Whether it’s a person or a board. My black friends look at these types and just roll their eyes. Stop trying to find something that isn’t there. Are you just attention seeking?

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I’m guessing you are one of these woke snowflake types who feel the need to stand up for anything black related. Whether it’s a person or a board. My black friends look at these types and just roll their eyes. Stop trying to find something that isn’t there. Are you just attention seeking?"

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Does it make you a 'woke snowflake' the fact you're white, contributing and standing up for your black friends?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m guessing you are one of these woke snowflake types who feel the need to stand up for anything black related. Whether it’s a person or a board. My black friends look at these types and just roll their eyes. Stop trying to find something that isn’t there. Are you just attention seeking?"

Non of this made sense btw

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Nope"

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OK, so maybe other contributors shouldn't be denounced just for having a view contrary to your own?

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By *eardeddadbod91Man
over a year ago

h

Some people just want to find a problem even when there is nothing there

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By *arkRoomResidentsCouple
over a year ago

london


"Ah so when you say 'taboo' what you mean is:

"Why do a large proportion of people on fab seem to dislike the fetishization of someone due to X, Y or Z characteristic, in my case interracial sex"

1. Because noone should be fetishized because of a characteristic. It's weird and creepy (people shouldn't be fetishized on general)

2. Because your 'kink' is based on systemic racism and the perception that such a meeting in itself is 'taboo' and it isn't. "

Exactly this and much more eloquently put than I could have managed

K

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By *hoenixandflamesCouple
over a year ago

Stockport

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve never got the impression it’s taboo, folk on here don’t seem to be judgemental so not sure what the fuss is about. We wouldn’t because it holds absolutely zero interest for us, but others like that, fair play and enjoy yourselves- Bob

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"[Removed by poster at 09/05/22 13:04:47]"

Oh now I wanna know what you said!

Hope you're well x

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

I’ve not noticed this as taboo. Even if it was why would it be delicate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think what OP is saying is that on most forums on here if they are black male/bbc orientated the forum gets hijacked by all sorts (the offended, trolls, self righteous and haters). I could be wrong

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By *iss KinkWoman
over a year ago

North West


"Nothing I seen suggests anything taboo about it, sounds more like the OP gets off using a wooden spoon to try stirring up imaginary issues."

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"I think what OP is saying is that on most forums on here if they are black male/bbc orientated the forum gets hijacked by all sorts (the offended, trolls, self righteous and haters). I could be wrong "

When you say offended/trolls you mean people like me who think that the fetishization of someone because of a characteristic they happen to have is abhorrent?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think what OP is saying is that on most forums on here if they are black male/bbc orientated the forum gets hijacked by all sorts (the offended, trolls, self righteous and haters). I could be wrong

When you say offended/trolls you mean people like me who think that the fetishization of someone because of a characteristic they happen to have is abhorrent?"

The trolls I refer to are those who joke around with the term bbc bringing up the TV station and stuff. You may fall into the offended bracket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if I remember correctly the OP got hauled up for fetishising on another thread recently. Doesn't like the suggestion that there could possibly be racism....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You like what you like.A white woman has got more chance of shagging a Black man,than i have finding a women local to me who wants to be fisted.Why do people try to stir up trouble when none exists in the first place.

Local ladies close to me who would like to fisted with the up most tenderness and love please make yourself known

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I think what OP is saying is that on most forums on here if they are black male/bbc orientated the forum gets hijacked by all sorts (the offended, trolls, self righteous and haters). I could be wrong

When you say offended/trolls you mean people like me who think that the fetishization of someone because of a characteristic they happen to have is abhorrent?

The trolls I refer to are those who joke around with the term bbc bringing up the TV station and stuff. You may fall into the offended bracket"

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Which bracket do you fall into? There's no such thing as an innocent bystander

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing delicate about it, at least that if have heard or seen.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick


"Are we on different sites?

Sorry it just come across it to me .. I think fab should have a section for interracial as most forums do"

So you say it should be no different... but should be seperated off into it's own section?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've never seen anything that would indicate that it's taboo on here. Are you sure you aren't just trying to stir up trouble op?"

Of course he is, I have never witnessed it including the years I was on here before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think what OP is saying is that on most forums on here if they are black male/bbc orientated the forum gets hijacked by all sorts (the offended, trolls, self righteous and haters). I could be wrong

When you say offended/trolls you mean people like me who think that the fetishization of someone because of a characteristic they happen to have is abhorrent?

The trolls I refer to are those who joke around with the term bbc bringing up the TV station and stuff. You may fall into the offended bracket

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Which bracket do you fall into? There's no such thing as an innocent bystander "

That’s exactly what I am.. innocent

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think what OP is saying is that on most forums on here if they are black male/bbc orientated the forum gets hijacked by all sorts (the offended, trolls, self righteous and haters). I could be wrong "

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By *entleman JayMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

It’s not taboo. It’s a friendly environment for that dynamic.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I've never seen it as taboo in the sence that it's rather openly prolific on this site. However the idea of racial fetishism on this site is often a contentious issue (as is often the way with lots of fetish). Personally I think we should alway tread carefully with disrespecting any fetish. I understand the concerns of the background and societal origins of some racial fetishism. But then the sexual and fetish space has often been a safe to explore darker areas of our imagination that don't reflect our normal life outlook or world view.

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By *ocky82Man
over a year ago

Watford

What’s taboo about it ?

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By *imGimMan
over a year ago

london

The issue for me is when white people say “I want a bbc” there is an issue of consent. We black folk are not here as play things for white people

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By *JcouplemidlandsCouple
over a year ago

Peak District


"The issue for me is when white people say “I want a bbc” there is an issue of consent. We black folk are not here as play things for white people"

That goes both ways though. We get it almost daily messages from men with BBC on the profile. It isn't just white people asking for it, I would go as far as saying from what we have seen there are more man advertising the fact they have a BBC than people asking for it.

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

yep defo trying cause trouble,,

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By *imGimMan
over a year ago

london

Why is it even a topic, I don’t owe anyone an explanation or justify myself. Is it any or your business

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What?

Not at all, never see anything that you’re suggesting.

However, plenty of profiles saying bbc only, who cares? Sounds like you’re butthurt over your interaction and want to make it a race issue.

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

Such a shit stirring thread.

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By *pertureTV/TS
over a year ago

New Ferry, wirral in stockings and sussies

why would it be taboo, seems a pretty common experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The issue for me is when white people say “I want a bbc” there is an issue of consent. We black folk are not here as play things for white people"

Same as PAWG same as BBW noone should have a label, so you ought to tell that to the 100s of black guys who have messaged me asking if I want their BBC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Such a shit stirring thread."

Exactly. Hate division. But I do have a preference to bbc. But it’s down to individuals xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Until recently, I didn't know how much White Women love Black Men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you women prefer Black African Men or Black Caribbean Men??

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By *ddfellowMan
over a year ago

Newferry, wirral

think its the complete opposite seems a very popular subject

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you women prefer Black African Men or Black Caribbean Men??"

I think that you are overthinking the whole thing, and if it was a preference then everyone will have one I can't see that it'll be a % thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbf I just thought that was a normal thing hardly taboo

Every woman I've known want BBC. Meh each to their own it's just a Shane that black women aren't too interested in white men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tbf I just thought that was a normal thing hardly taboo

Every woman I've known want BBC. Meh each to their own it's just a Shane that black women aren't too interested in white men "

There is a few black women that like white men only on here

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By *enerifehotwifecplCouple
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

My Indian wife love’s white men x

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By *arry monk40Man
over a year ago

Telford

Never seen this it must be in the eye of the beholder

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


" There is a few black women that like white men only on here"

Point them to my profile please?

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Why is this such a delicate topic? Who cares if that's what a women wants ? White guys always making jokes . I find it quiet offensive and I'd be appalled if I was a black male . This should be normal in 2022"

I’ll stick my neck out here, and offer that possibly half the entire club scene is focussed around white women meeting black guys

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By *eard and BoobsCouple
over a year ago

Portstewart

We wouldn't say that is taboo its more mainstream today than it ever was what we find is that if you say no to someone of different pigmentation you get called a racist whereas really it's just personal preference and lots of these types of men think there entitled to whatever they want

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By *onnie 90Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

There's one main thing involved. Personal preference. Now some people try to paint Personal preference with the racist brush. But that's certainly not the case. I meet whoever I want to meet. Should I change that to meeting whoever other people say I should meet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So to the women who like black men, what makes the experience with us different to other men??

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By *itty HoodooCouple
over a year ago

Stockport


"Do you women prefer Black African Men or Black Caribbean Men??

I think that you are overthinking the whole thing, and if it was a preference then everyone will have one I can't see that it'll be a % thing "

African and Caribbean are quite different personalities. It’s not over thinking.

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By *itty HoodooCouple
over a year ago

Stockport


"The issue for me is when white people say “I want a bbc” there is an issue of consent. We black folk are not here as play things for white people

That goes both ways though. We get it almost daily messages from men with BBC on the profile. It isn't just white people asking for it, I would go as far as saying from what we have seen there are more man advertising the fact they have a BBC than people asking for it."

Completely agree, and when it comes down to it yes some are big but most no bigger than others. So when advertised BBC errr no it black , but apparently it’s a good sales technique on fab. Good luck guys why not.

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By *imGimMan
over a year ago

london

I used to say you guys treat us like cattle. But more accurately we are walking dildos.

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By *imGimMan
over a year ago

london

Did you ever stop to think that before"Caribbean or African" we are first and foremost human beings. The only thing you People care about is what we have between or legs. Did you ever engage in what we have between our ears, because as well as a penis I also have a brain

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By *imGimMan
over a year ago

london

Maybe it is. Personally, as a mixed guy, I am done with white ppl. When I am with another

Person who is black or mixed, there's no politics, no fetish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you ever stop to think that before"Caribbean or African" we are first and foremost human beings. The only thing you People care about is what we have between or legs. Did you ever engage in what we have between our ears, because as well as a penis I also have a brain "

Some guys love to be a walking "dildo", I don't like and never use the term BBC but if the guys being called it or use it in their own profile then it's up to them.

I've never met anyone who calls me it or uses the term as a first message but that's just me

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By *orphia2003Woman
over a year ago

Tonypandy.

If we want to talk about fetishizing based on something, I could argue that many BBW / curvy girl nights are frequented by mostly black males and white females.

Are we therefore fetishizing black males, white females, large, curvy women, non or all of the above.

Can I argue that black men have a fetish for big white women? So do black BBW not attend clubs because they don't need to be singled out to flaunt thier curves, they just do it anyway.

We could argue that any of these factors could be racist or fetishistic if we wanted to. Or just agree that people like what they like.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"If we want to talk about fetishizing based on something, I could argue that many BBW / curvy girl nights are frequented by mostly black males and white females.

Are we therefore fetishizing black males, white females, large, curvy women, non or all of the above.

Can I argue that black men have a fetish for big white women? So do black BBW not attend clubs because they don't need to be singled out to flaunt thier curves, they just do it anyway.

We could argue that any of these factors could be racist or fetishistic if we wanted to. Or just agree that people like what they like."

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You may be right but at least the BBW acronym refers to the subject as a human being rather than reducing them to a body part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Playing a race card is the easiest way to get yourself noticed in the forums.

Was that your aim really?

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


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Some guys love to be a walking "dildo", I don't like and never use the term BBC but if the guys being called it or use it in their own profile then it's up to them.

I've never met anyone who calls me it or uses the term as a first message but that's just me "

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Of course people can refer to themselves however they want, but the issue is where the porn inspired "BBC" is the accepted vernacular to describe black men generally.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Playing a race card is the easiest way to get yourself noticed in the forums.

Was that your aim really? "

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Not sure who your post is directed at or its purpose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What an odd, ancient, thread to resurrect!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Playing a race card is the easiest way to get yourself noticed in the forums.

Was that your aim really?

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Not sure who your post is directed at or its purpose."

Stating a fact.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Playing a race card is the easiest way to get yourself noticed in the forums.

Was that your aim really?

................................

Not sure who your post is directed at or its purpose.

Stating a fact. "

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You posed a question, not sure who it was meant for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you women prefer darker skinned black men or lighter skinned back men??

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I don't think it's taboo

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By *4bimMan
over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire


"What an odd, ancient, thread to resurrect!"

Yes, I wondered what the hell was going on?

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By *ouplecu2015Couple
over a year ago

Reading

Isn't absolutely a taboo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very odd topic,never seen anyone ridiculed over it

Many couples on here with white mr black Mrs

As everything else on here each to their own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got to admit I love it when I see a black man with a white woman, the combination is nice

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By *enerifehotwifecplCouple
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

Agreed x

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By *imGimMan
over a year ago

london

Using the term in a self referencing way is not necesarily a negative thing.

I mean my pictures are open I'm not ashamed, but just cos I have a massive cock, but showing it off isn't an invite to all.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Why is this such a delicate topic? Who cares if that's what a women wants ? White guys always making jokes . I find it quite offensive and I'd be appalled if I was a black male . This should be normal in 2022"

This doesn't make sense where do you get this idea from ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My wife like black guys, never been with 1 but comment's how attractive some are.

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By *itnakedladMan
over a year ago

London Bridge


"Why is this such a delicate topic? Who cares if that's what a women wants ? White guys always making jokes . I find it quite offensive and I'd be appalled if I was a black male . This should be normal in 2022

This doesn't make sense where do you get this idea from ?"

Especially as it’s 2023?

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By *irty d69Man
over a year ago

Hornchurch

We all got our own preferences male or female, just that some profiles stated it, after all initial attraction is a major part of meeting someone. if its not meant in a malicious way, Shouldn’t be a thing surely ? we are all the same inside and all have preferences.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

I'm sure the black males love it haha what you on about

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Once colour, gender, politics become the issue it clouds the fact it's really down to a persons preferences.

These preferences may change.

If I go into an ice cream palour I pick the ones I fancy. I may stick with that choice forever or get bored a try another type.

Because your choice is unusual in the eyes of some it shouldn't be held against you.

Have fun and enjoy life.

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By *lippersXXXMan
over a year ago

North Central london

I love ice cream butt rarely vanilla xx uhmm

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By *aulhornyladMan
over a year ago

Sunderland

Strange how you never see black girls looking for white guys

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Strange how you never see black girls looking for white guys"

Maybe they don't state looking for white cock as much as the girls write looking for BBC only

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By *aulhornyladMan
over a year ago

Sunderland

True

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah there is black girls on here that are looking for white men only, probably not a lot of them but there are around

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By *uncouplerk40Couple
over a year ago

TD


"Got to admit I love it when I see a black man with a white woman, the combination is nice"

The contrast is hot

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