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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

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By *ojo1964Man
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too.

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By *hatEscalatedQuicklyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too."

Maybe he's in a wheelchair and wanting to try a club? Or asking for a friend? There was nothing to suggest he has a problem with it.

OP - it wouldn't put us off, personality is more important

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Wouldn't bother us. Why would it ?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

It'd be jolly hypocritical of us to be bothered!

Yours,

Mrs KC

Wheelchair user also

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too."

Presumably he's asking because he uses a wheelchair? And we wheelies are DEFINITELY off-putting to some, unfortunately. We've had lots of people cease contact the second they realise.

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By *r kink8585Man
over a year ago

ireland,

"Wouldn't bother us. Why would it ?"

Me either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too."
it was just a simple question Karen

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

In a wheelie? Why not? Don't be put off OP. Clubs are welcoming spaces

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have seen people in clubs in wheelchairs and they have been having just as much fun as anybody else.

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By *willfindyouWoman
over a year ago

Not looking to meet new peeps.

if he could lick me out and I please him why in name of god would anyone care lol .. op Not nice !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

Put us off what? Him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too.

Presumably he's asking because he uses a wheelchair? And we wheelies are DEFINITELY off-putting to some, unfortunately. We've had lots of people cease contact the second they realise."

I was going to say that’s unbelievable but sadly I’ve been around too long so instead I’ll just say I’m really sorry that happens.

I wouldn’t be put off in the slightest although I may be a little extra wary about making sure the person was within whatever physical limits they may or may not have.

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

Not a problem at all, all that counts is their personality and chemistry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

No, I don't think so, unless he had a horrible personality. THAT would put me off, but that would put me off about anyone!

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By *ojo1964Man
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

I'm far from being a "karen", If the OP is in a wheelchair I hope they are having loads. Oh BTW I'm in a wheelchair so really you're as bad as me for judging.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thank you for the replies I use an electric wheelchair so a lot of clubs are inaccessible. I once took a friend who lifted me in but he wasn’t keen so it’s hard

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By *lossyLegsGlassesCouple
over a year ago

stafford

"Thank you for the replies I use an electric wheelchair so a lot of clubs are inaccessible. I once took a friend who lifted me in but he wasn’t keen so it’s hard "

Well you can come with us anytime you like as long as I get to sit on your lap and you give me a ride hunni xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would be blown out of the water to see someone in a wheelchair at a club. It wouldn't be the wheelchair but the fact that I can see them that would blow my mind. Once I got over that it wouldn't effect me either way. Some people have wheelchairs and some people don't.

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

No not at all, plus we have seen wheel chair users in clubs admittedly ground floor only due to lack of access elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thank you for the replies I use an electric wheelchair so a lot of clubs are inaccessible. I once took a friend who lifted me in but he wasn’t keen so it’s hard

Well you can come with us anytime you like as long as I get to sit on your lap and you give me a ride hunni xxx"

Where do you go and anything for a lady as beautiful as you xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No not at all, plus we have seen wheel chair users in clubs admittedly ground floor only due to lack of access elsewhere. "

That’s the big issue x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would be blown out of the water to see someone in a wheelchair at a club. It wouldn't be the wheelchair but the fact that I can see them that would blow my mind. Once I got over that it wouldn't effect me either way. Some people have wheelchairs and some people don't."

Why’s that xx

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By *lutandhubbyCouple
over a year ago

west midlands

doesn't put us off. we have played with a guy in a wheelchair. no different to anyone else to us. xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"doesn't put us off. we have played with a guy in a wheelchair. no different to anyone else to us. xx"

Was it ok

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Nite thanks for commenting all

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By *ustCharWoman
over a year ago

Stamford

Definitely wouldn't put me off. I'm trying to think about how accessible clubs I have been to are. I would say JayDees is a no, but I think VAs is a yes.

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By *atureandhornyCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

We'd play with a guy who was unfortunately in a wheelchair as long as he can get a hard on.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Lots of swingers have disabilities, so he would be amongst friends.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely wouldn't put me off. I'm trying to think about how accessible clubs I have been to are. I would say JayDees is a no, but I think VAs is a yes."

Where is that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lots of swingers have disabilities, so he would be amongst friends. "

Hope so

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

Not really, on my bad days I have my own wheels.

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By *reddy96Man
over a year ago

scunthorpe

"It'd be jolly hypocritical of us to be bothered!

Yours,

Mrs KC

Wheelchair user also "
lovin the pics of mrs kc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It'd be jolly hypocritical of us to be bothered!

Yours,

Mrs KC

Wheelchair user also lovin the pics of mrs kc. "

She’s fit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its wouldnt put me off if a woman was

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"It'd be jolly hypocritical of us to be bothered!

Yours,

Mrs KC

Wheelchair user also lovin the pics of mrs kc.

She’s fit"

Thank you

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By *eanorWoman
over a year ago

My ex partner was in a wheelchair, paralysed , it didnt stop us having fun , theres a lot of ways of having fun xx

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By *nigmatic x DivinityCouple
over a year ago

Up town top ranking

Wouldn't bother us x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My ex partner was in a wheelchair, paralysed , it didnt stop us having fun , theres a lot of ways of having fun xx"

We’re u together long

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wouldn't bother us x"

Have you before

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By *entBarryUKMan
over a year ago

Ashford

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

Not even if he had a bigger dick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s a girl on here in a wheelchair she’s beautiful I’d love to play with her

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Seen it a number of times and also a person with Cerebral Palsy just go live you're life.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

Not even if he had a bigger dick."

I’m big enough lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There’s a girl on here in a wheelchair she’s beautiful I’d love to play with her "

Who

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Seen it a number of times and also a person with Cerebral Palsy just go live you're life. "

Thanks also goergous mrs

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By *oumlacaMan
over a year ago

waterford

No it would nt put us off. My wife has a medical condition and sometimes has to use a wheelchair. A few years ago we met a guy who was an amputee (leg) and he was best fuck she ever got.

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By *haneportsMan
over a year ago

portsmouth

I’ve had fun with a wheelchair user & more than once.

They are human first & foremost & it only takes an illness or accident & you could be in a wheelchair.

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By *yourselfMan
over a year ago

Heworth

"if he could lick me out and I please him why in name of god would anyone care lol .. op Not nice !"

'Lick me out' haven't heard that phrase in years x

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By *oudBeSurprisedMan
over a year ago

Fife

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

On a wheelchair as apposed to using one? Well I'd be a wee bit concerned with what he was doing in it and if the owner of the wheelchair gave him permission to be in there.

Unless of course you are meaning a picture of a guy stuck on a wheelchair like some sort of sponsorship or endorsement like "you'll be fucked so hard you will need a wheelchair. For best prices on wheelchairs, come down to Deals on Wheels and use discount code FAB2"

First I think we maybe need to establish what you mean by "on a wheelchair" so I'll defer my answer.

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By *oudBeSurprisedMan
over a year ago

Fife

"if he could lick me out and I please him why in name of god would anyone care lol .. op Not nice !"

Why is it not nice? He asked a question. He didn't make a comment.

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By *oudBeSurprisedMan
over a year ago

Fife

"Thank you for the replies I use an electric wheelchair so a lot of clubs are inaccessible. I once took a friend who lifted me in but he wasn’t keen so it’s hard "

Oh shit!!! I bet all you judgemental pricks that assumed he was saying wheelchair users are off-putting wish they deleted their comments now.

In your attempts to look inclusive and "woke" you exposed yourself as being judgemental and ignorant cunts.

OP get in the private messages of everyone that said they wouldn't be put off and charm them with your personality that they said was more important and see how that goes.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

I used to really fancy a guy I worked beside who was a wheelchair user.

Clubs are not very accessible. I don’t use a wheelchair but I do have issues walking at times.

If I fancied someone it wouldn’t bother me if they were in a wheelchair. I’m not sure if your question is aimed at clubs or the people that go to clubs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In response to my comments about being blown away by seeing you is because I am blind. Completely and totally. To those who jump on the "you can't use a computer" stand... I am blind, use NVDA from nonvisualdevelopment.org to access my computer and Voice Over to access my iPhone. I also work as a software developer.

To be utterly blatant, my disability is invisible :D x

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By *oudBeSurprisedMan
over a year ago

Fife

"In response to my comments about being blown away by seeing you is because I am blind. Completely and totally. To those who jump on the "you can't use a computer" stand... I am blind, use NVDA from nonvisualdevelopment.org to access my computer and Voice Over to access my iPhone. I also work as a software developer.

To be utterly blatant, my disability is invisible :D x"

This comment wins the Internet. Fucking amazing. Talk about a plot twist.

You totally played the Uno reverse card.

"What do you think about disabled guys in clubs?"

"I'd be surprised to see one there"

"I'm disabled, why would you be surprised to see me?"

"Because I'm 100% blind and I'd be surprised to see anyone"

Fucking perfect interaction. See, just because you have a disability doesn't mean you don't have the horn or a sense of humour

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To be utterly blatant, my disability is invisible :D x

This comment wins the Internet. Fucking amazing. Talk about a plot twist.

You totally played the Uno reverse card.

"What do you think about disabled guys in clubs?"

"I'd be surprised to see one there"

"I'm disabled, why would you be surprised to see me?"

"Because I'm 100% blind and I'd be surprised to see anyone"

Fucking perfect interaction. See, just because you have a disability doesn't mean you don't have the horn or a sense of humour

To be fair you gotta take a joke, as a wheelchair user if I didn’t I wouldn’t be able to stand up for myself

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

To be utterly blatant, my disability is invisible :D x

This comment wins the Internet. Fucking amazing. Talk about a plot twist.

You totally played the Uno reverse card.

"What do you think about disabled guys in clubs?"

"I'd be surprised to see one there"

"I'm disabled, why would you be surprised to see me?"

"Because I'm 100% blind and I'd be surprised to see anyone"

Fucking perfect interaction. See, just because you have a disability doesn't mean you don't have the horn or a sense of humour

To be fair you gotta take a joke, as a wheelchair user if I didn’t I wouldn’t be able to stand up for myself"

Best foot forward, now

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By *oumlacaMan
over a year ago

waterford

If anyone would like to hear the details of our meet please reply privately.

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By *itygamesMan
over a year ago

"Thank you for the replies I use an electric wheelchair so a lot of clubs are inaccessible. I once took a friend who lifted me in but he wasn’t keen so it’s hard

Well you can come with us anytime you like as long as I get to sit on your lap and you give me a ride hunni xxx"

thats a lovely comment/reply............fair play x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No xx"

That’s good x

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

No.

But....we travelled to a seaside town to meet a couple in a hotel, luckily we said it was just for a social.

They seemed an average sized couple, according to their profile but when they walked in she was very overweight and disabled.

Not really sure what they expected, it was confusing, what did they expect to happen.

Able bodied or disabled, don't like liars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

no not at all why should it anyone and everyone has a rights to be in a club if they want ...as for playing then if the attraction is there then yep not a problem

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"No.

But....we travelled to a seaside town to meet a couple in a hotel, luckily we said it was just for a social.

They seemed an average sized couple, according to their profile but when they walked in she was very overweight and disabled.

Not really sure what they expected, it was confusing, what did they expect to happen.

Able bodied or disabled, don't like liars."

I'm fat and disabled. He's tall, slim and disabled (but not in a way you'd observe outwardly).

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

"No.

But....we travelled to a seaside town to meet a couple in a hotel, luckily we said it was just for a social.

They seemed an average sized couple, according to their profile but when they walked in she was very overweight and disabled.

Not really sure what they expected, it was confusing, what did they expect to happen.

Able bodied or disabled, don't like liars.

I'm fat and disabled. He's tall, slim and disabled (but not in a way you'd observe outwardly). "

Would you describe yourself as average size and not mention you were disabled if we arranged to meet.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"No.

But....we travelled to a seaside town to meet a couple in a hotel, luckily we said it was just for a social.

They seemed an average sized couple, according to their profile but when they walked in she was very overweight and disabled.

Not really sure what they expected, it was confusing, what did they expect to happen.

Able bodied or disabled, don't like liars.

I'm fat and disabled. He's tall, slim and disabled (but not in a way you'd observe outwardly).

Would you describe yourself as average size and not mention you were disabled if we arranged to meet.

Nope. But our pics are up to date and representative so should be obvious how much chub I have

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, not unless they had Tourette's as well.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No, not unless they had Tourette's as well."

Good ur pics are very sexy

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

"No.

But....we travelled to a seaside town to meet a couple in a hotel, luckily we said it was just for a social.

They seemed an average sized couple, according to their profile but when they walked in she was very overweight and disabled.

Not really sure what they expected, it was confusing, what did they expect to happen.

Able bodied or disabled, don't like liars.

I'm fat and disabled. He's tall, slim and disabled (but not in a way you'd observe outwardly).

Would you describe yourself as average size and not mention you were disabled if we arranged to meet.

Nope. But our pics are up to date and representative so should be obvious how much chub I have

There you go.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No.

But....we travelled to a seaside town to meet a couple in a hotel, luckily we said it was just for a social.

They seemed an average sized couple, according to their profile but when they walked in she was very overweight and disabled.

Not really sure what they expected, it was confusing, what did they expect to happen.

Able bodied or disabled, don't like liars.

I'm fat and disabled. He's tall, slim and disabled (but not in a way you'd observe outwardly).

Would you describe yourself as average size and not mention you were disabled if we arranged to meet.

Nope. But our pics are up to date and representative so should be obvious how much chub I have

There you go.

Lol

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By *g1231974Man
over a year ago

wetherby

I've a disability, albeit not mobility. I have had it pointed out as a reason why sone are put off hence my lack of photos

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

Nope!

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By *oudBeSurprisedMan
over a year ago

Fife

"No, not unless they had Tourette's as well."

Imagine the dirty talk though?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

Nope!"

Glad to hear it great profile btw

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Glad to hear it great profile btw"

Cheers.

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By *xplorer666Man
over a year ago

Bolton

As long as I could still fuck him then no

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As long as I could still fuck him then no"

Bi?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

I am registered disabled and don't even mention my disabilities before meets.

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By *xplorer666Man
over a year ago

Bolton

I meant to type " them " but auto correct. But I am bi yes

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

I am registered disabled and don't even mention my disabilities before meets. "

I do but am only as I’m on a chair

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I meant to type " them " but auto correct. But I am bi yes"

Nice

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

I dated a guy in a wheelchair, so no.

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By *g1231974Man
over a year ago

wetherby

I must admit that I've been told a number of times on here that women are repulsed by my having a false eye. Not a great ego boost!

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By *illxxMan
over a year ago

motherwell

I met a couple on here where the woman was in a wheelchair and no it didn’t put me off at all. It was an incredible meet and it didn’t restrict the fun we had

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I must admit that I've been told a number of times on here that women are repulsed by my having a false eye. Not a great ego boost!"

Anyone repulsed by that isn't worth your time of day, I'm sure you agree. I'm personally likely to think it's pretty cool (but maybe because I'm used to being around people who have bits missing a lot of the time

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By *g1231974Man
over a year ago

wetherby

"I must admit that I've been told a number of times on here that women are repulsed by my having a false eye. Not a great ego boost!

Thank you, I appreciate your words

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By *tarkersandcrutchCouple
over a year ago

TELFORD

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

Not at all. As long as there's an attraction, good convo, laughs and all comfortable its not an issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too.

Presumably he's asking because he uses a wheelchair? And we wheelies are DEFINITELY off-putting to some, unfortunately. We've had lots of people cease contact the second they realise."

Guess they wheeled themselves out and away.

Far worse situations go on here and in society daily towards people or other humans.

Then terms like preference are used to Dumb it all down..

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too.

Presumably he's asking because he uses a wheelchair? And we wheelies are DEFINITELY off-putting to some, unfortunately. We've had lots of people cease contact the second they realise.

Guess they wheeled themselves out and away.

Far worse situations go on here and in society daily towards people or other humans.

Then terms like preference are used to Dumb it all down..

It's incredibly unpleasant to know that having a disability is the reason people cease contact. It's irrelevant what other things are going on in the world or on here, the question at hand is about disability.

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By *teph BitchTV/TS
over a year ago

Manchester

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off"

I'm a wheelchair user and if I went to an event I'd treat people like I would hope they would treat me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

I'm a wheelchair user and if I went to an event I'd treat people like I would hope they would treat me. "

Out in public or work place is where the real deal is towards people with Disabilitys.

Look up what every council has done or is doing .

Don't know about fab on this subject but are people from all walks of life and on this platform .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too.

Presumably he's asking because he uses a wheelchair? And we wheelies are DEFINITELY off-putting to some, unfortunately. We've had lots of people cease contact the second they realise.

Guess they wheeled themselves out and away.

Far worse situations go on here and in society daily towards people or other humans.

Then terms like preference are used to Dumb it all down..

Sure I agree.

What my shareing was . First we need to be acknowledged as humans. Male/female. What ever skin colour,religion status etc etc etc.

Across the Board then we can start to implement forms and help in many area,s ..

As for what. I mentioned it shows people/people's are being killed and persecuted all over the world every min. Because they are viewed as sub human.

Even breaking news from the USA in buffalo state this Sunday morning. Mass shooting and killing

A mad man has killed many for racial hatred.

When killing is becoming the norm daily around us. First we need to stop and stamp the killings,save lives . We all have a voice.

Then we can spread services and other help many.

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over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

Not at all. As long as there's an attraction, good convo, laughs and all comfortable its not an issue. "

I fully agree....

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

I'm a wheelchair user and if I went to an event I'd treat people like I would hope they would treat me.

Out in public or work place is where the real deal is towards people with Disabilitys.

Look up what every council has done or is doing .

Don't know about fab on this subject but are people from all walks of life and on this platform ."

Out in public, things aren't so rosy for people with disabilities. I can't use the train because all our local stations have steps and no lifts. Most of the shops on our high street have steps and no ramps. We can't go out anywhere without doing extensive research about accessibility and I am frequently excluded from participating in aspects of my young daughter's life due to lack of disability access.

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over a year ago

"If you saw a guy on a wheelchair at a swing event would it put u off

I'm a wheelchair user and if I went to an event I'd treat people like I would hope they would treat me.

Out in public or work place is where the real deal is towards people with Disabilitys.

Look up what every council has done or is doing .

Don't know about fab on this subject but are people from all walks of life and on this platform .

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By *ittlekinks38Woman
over a year ago

outside belfast x

Wouldn't put me off not one bit! I'd be worried that most clubs/pubs don't have enough access for disabled folk though! And that might put you off xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clubs aren't my thing but why should a disabled person be excluded?

Wouldn't put me off at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, but there’s nothing to say you have to play with with him

If you (as a man) saw a woman in a wheelchair at a club would it put you off?

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over a year ago

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too.

Presumably he's asking because he uses a wheelchair? And we wheelies are DEFINITELY off-putting to some, unfortunately. We've had lots of people cease contact the second they realise.

Guess they wheeled themselves out and away.

Far worse situations go on here and in society daily towards people or other humans.

Then terms like preference are used to Dumb it all down..

Why is it incredibly unpleasant if they aren't looking for X?

I won't be shamed into meeting someone I'm not compatible with.

It doesn't make either of us a lesser person.

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By *onnyadtMan
over a year ago

Uttoxeter

Zero issue of any disablity regrdless of the environment. There's a very interesting lady wheel chair user who I'd very much like a conversation with.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Why did you bring it up? Does it bother you? It shouldn't as disabled people have a sex life too.

Presumably he's asking because he uses a wheelchair? And we wheelies are DEFINITELY off-putting to some, unfortunately. We've had lots of people cease contact the second they realise.

Guess they wheeled themselves out and away.

Far worse situations go on here and in society daily towards people or other humans.

Then terms like preference are used to Dumb it all down..

Why is it incredibly unpleasant if they aren't looking for X?

I won't be shamed into meeting someone I'm not compatible with.

It doesn't make either of us a lesser person.

It's incredibly unpleasant after they've sent every platitude in the books, then the second they realise you use a wheelchair, they just ghost or block without further comment. One minute, you're God's gift (allegedly) and the next, so unpalatable that they can't even abide saying "thanks but no thanks".

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