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"I have a problem with the whole idea that 'interracial' is a thing. We don't have a name for 'redhead with a blonde' porn, or 'Asian with an Egyptian' porn, but 'black with a white' gets its own special category. I can see that the juxtaposition of dark and light skin can be aesthetically pleasing, I have no problem with that. I can see that one might find a particular skin colour more attractive, there's nothing wrong with having a preference. However I have a problem with the whole idea that black and white people are different, and that mixing them is somehow titilating. Still, each to his own I suppose." Well everything needs a category as people are looking for certain things that's like saying don't call it a gang bang as its just a bunch of individuals having sex with each other. It's a porn term . What are people suppose to say white couple seeking black male. Each to their own I see no problem with making it a category | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. " awesome response guys | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. " ................................. Interesting post. We're similar, been together 30 years, I'm (f), white my hubby's black. We were both enthusiastic participants in this lifestyle until around 10 years ago, we played separately and as a couple, he now only meets old friends we've met through this lifestyle. Things started to change for him as it became increasingly clear we were a novelty act to many we met together as a couple and especially some people he met on his own. Race fetishisation has been around for centuries but I believe it's more recently been legitimised by the proliferation and easy access to pornography and clever producers who've latched onto baser human instincts. The language used to describe interracial sex is increasingly dehumanising and animalistic-bbc, blacked, bull etc etc, etc. Over time it became tiresome when he/we were constantly asked if he was a "BBC", conflating a human being with his genitals, which so many here don't understand why it's problematic, or worse choose to be in denial about it. The most exceptional black men I've encountered feel the same and wouldn't meet white women/couples who want to fetishise them, these women/couples are missing out on some great experiences. Totally understand people have an interest in others of a different race, but it can be expressed without the resorting to fetish language which is some cases reveals what people really think about people of colour. | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. " Your posts on this topic are always refreshing Whenever the topic of race comes up and black people comment about not wanting to be fetshised and reduced to our skin colour we always get a mass of white people telling us that we're making something out of nothing You and Joan of Arc seem to be a couple of the few white people (when it's the white half commenting obviously) who acknowledge that this is a thing and don't dismiss it as 'playing the race card' x | |||
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"I have no issue meeting white men as I don't fetiishise race and find my attraction towards people isn't necessarily based on skin colour How ever if I'm speaking to a white guy on here and race gets mentioned or I get made to feel that they're only interested in me because I'm black they get blocked. I personally find it strange when white people love the idea of sex with black or Asian people but wouldn't date one or bring one home to meet their parents....." . 100% I have no problem dating white women, but as soon I hear are you a BBC or a bull. I switch off and move on, I have no time that nonsense. | |||
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"I have no issue meeting white men as I don't fetiishise race and find my attraction towards people isn't necessarily based on skin colour How ever if I'm speaking to a white guy on here and race gets mentioned or I get made to feel that they're only interested in me because I'm black they get blocked. I personally find it strange when white people love the idea of sex with black or Asian people but wouldn't date one or bring one home to meet their parents...... 100% I have no problem dating white women, but as soon I hear are you a BBC or a bull. I switch off and move on, I have no time that nonsense. " The strangest thing for me is when you mention to them that those kind of comments are borderline offensive or damaging they don't get it But when you say something similar to them you're the bad guy | |||
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"I do find the term BBC abit cringey same as BWC etc . There's nothing wrong with the word interracial as people say they are in interracial relationships .. however you do see alot of black guys here saying they are looking for white wife's and white pussy etc and them labelling themselves as BBC so that's why there is so much of it around .. cuckold is also cringey as hell. But if a couple if genuinely looking for a black guy to bring into there sex life I don't see why that's offensive " Funny that you've said that you find the term BBC cringey yet on another interracial topic you refered to white women wanting to have sex with black men as a 'kink' | |||
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"I do find the term BBC abit cringey same as BWC etc . There's nothing wrong with the word interracial as people say they are in interracial relationships .. however you do see alot of black guys here saying they are looking for white wife's and white pussy etc and them labelling themselves as BBC so that's why there is so much of it around .. cuckold is also cringey as hell. But if a couple if genuinely looking for a black guy to bring into there sex life I don't see why that's offensive " ................................. Your last point isn't offensive as far as I'm concerned. As for black guys describing themselves as BBC, that's a matter for them but they've equally been influenced by porn since it's only in the last 10-15 years such terminology has become widespread and they've realised it's a role they can play into for easy sex with some white people. Besides which the fact some men refer to themselves this way doesn't make it universally acceptable amongst black men and that mindset sort of endorses the view that black men are a 'thing' rather than a collection of individuals with a range of personalities and opinions. After all some women refer to themselves as 'sluts', that doesn't mean when talking about women it's OK to refer to them as sluts! | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended " ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. " Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? " | |||
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"Love me some interracial 'hanky panky' but fun fact! I've never had sexual relations with lady of my own ethnicity Why? Fuck knows haha" At 33 you've never been a black woman? | |||
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"Love me some interracial 'hanky panky' but fun fact! I've never had sexual relations with lady of my own ethnicity Why? Fuck knows haha At 33 you've never been a black woman? " Never Most intimate I've been was holding hands & that was back at high-school prom lol | |||
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"Love me some interracial 'hanky panky' but fun fact! I've never had sexual relations with lady of my own ethnicity Why? Fuck knows haha" It could be due to a numbers game, we are in a majority white country, and depending where you are from in UK there may not me too many women of colour to mingle with | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? " I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view." Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial " There's a difference between being into interracial and being fetishised based on race... The couple you're replying to are an interracial couple who understand the difference between the two | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial There's a difference between being into interracial and being fetishised based on race... The couple you're replying to are an interracial couple who understand the difference between the two " That’s fine, I just don’t understand why being fetishised is a bad thing if done with good taste | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial There's a difference between being into interracial and being fetishised based on race... The couple you're replying to are an interracial couple who understand the difference between the two That’s fine, I just don’t understand why being fetishised is a bad thing if done with good taste " It's impossible to fetishise people in 'good taste' It's essentially reducing black men down to nothing but their genitals If you're happy with that and it works for you then keep doing your thing bit it's not upto to you tell people that they shouldn't be offended by it or not. | |||
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"I do find the term BBC abit cringey same as BWC etc . There's nothing wrong with the word interracial as people say they are in interracial relationships .. however you do see alot of black guys here saying they are looking for white wife's and white pussy etc and them labelling themselves as BBC so that's why there is so much of it around .. cuckold is also cringey as hell. But if a couple if genuinely looking for a black guy to bring into there sex life I don't see why that's offensive ................................. Your last point isn't offensive as far as I'm concerned. As for black guys describing themselves as BBC, that's a matter for them but they've equally been influenced by porn since it's only in the last 10-15 years such terminology has become widespread and they've realised it's a role they can play into for easy sex with some white people. Besides which the fact some men refer to themselves this way doesn't make it universally acceptable amongst black men and that mindset sort of endorses the view that black men are a 'thing' rather than a collection of individuals with a range of personalities and opinions. After all some women refer to themselves as 'sluts', that doesn't mean when talking about women it's OK to refer to them as sluts!" Good point | |||
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"Love me some interracial 'hanky panky' but fun fact! I've never had sexual relations with lady of my own ethnicity Why? Fuck knows haha" Nothing wrong with that | |||
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"I do find the term BBC abit cringey same as BWC etc . There's nothing wrong with the word interracial as people say they are in interracial relationships .. however you do see alot of black guys here saying they are looking for white wife's and white pussy etc and them labelling themselves as BBC so that's why there is so much of it around .. cuckold is also cringey as hell. But if a couple if genuinely looking for a black guy to bring into there sex life I don't see why that's offensive Funny that you've said that you find the term BBC cringey yet on another interracial topic you refered to white women wanting to have sex with black men as a 'kink'" Yes but I didn't say BBC . What's wrong with that . Alot of women want to try a black guy in their life's and why not? It's like alot of white men want to fuck Asian or Thai women nothing wrong with it . | |||
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"I do find the term BBC abit cringey same as BWC etc . There's nothing wrong with the word interracial as people say they are in interracial relationships .. however you do see alot of black guys here saying they are looking for white wife's and white pussy etc and them labelling themselves as BBC so that's why there is so much of it around .. cuckold is also cringey as hell. But if a couple if genuinely looking for a black guy to bring into there sex life I don't see why that's offensive Funny that you've said that you find the term BBC cringey yet on another interracial topic you refered to white women wanting to have sex with black men as a 'kink' Yes but I didn't say BBC . What's wrong with that . Alot of women want to try a black guy in their life's and why not? It's like alot of white men want to fuck Asian or Thai women nothing wrong with it ." Maybe you don't know what the term 'kink' means which is why you don't understand why it's strange that you used it in this sentence. | |||
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"I do find the term BBC abit cringey same as BWC etc . There's nothing wrong with the word interracial as people say they are in interracial relationships .. however you do see alot of black guys here saying they are looking for white wife's and white pussy etc and them labelling themselves as BBC so that's why there is so much of it around .. cuckold is also cringey as hell. But if a couple if genuinely looking for a black guy to bring into there sex life I don't see why that's offensive Funny that you've said that you find the term BBC cringey yet on another interracial topic you refered to white women wanting to have sex with black men as a 'kink' Yes but I didn't say BBC . What's wrong with that . Alot of women want to try a black guy in their life's and why not? It's like alot of white men want to fuck Asian or Thai women nothing wrong with it . Maybe you don't know what the term 'kink' means which is why you don't understand why it's strange that you used it in this sentence." Obviously I do lol. It's a fetish but still see no problem with it . Some men are attracted to thai women only. Doesn't mean they have a fetishism for them | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial There's a difference between being into interracial and being fetishised based on race... The couple you're replying to are an interracial couple who understand the difference between the two That’s fine, I just don’t understand why being fetishised is a bad thing if done with good taste It's impossible to fetishise people in 'good taste' It's essentially reducing black men down to nothing but their genitals If you're happy with that and it works for you then keep doing your thing bit it's not upto to you tell people that they shouldn't be offended by it or not." Genitals? I’m talking skin tone nothing to do with genitals babe, I thought that fetishes and kinks were perfectly fine to have as long as their legal of course. I guess it’s down to the classic each to there own. And I’m certainly not telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t be offended by I’m just pointing out it annoys me to see people offended by the love/like/fetishisation of a skin tone | |||
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"I do find the term BBC abit cringey same as BWC etc . There's nothing wrong with the word interracial as people say they are in interracial relationships .. however you do see alot of black guys here saying they are looking for white wife's and white pussy etc and them labelling themselves as BBC so that's why there is so much of it around .. cuckold is also cringey as hell. But if a couple if genuinely looking for a black guy to bring into there sex life I don't see why that's offensive Funny that you've said that you find the term BBC cringey yet on another interracial topic you refered to white women wanting to have sex with black men as a 'kink' Yes but I didn't say BBC . What's wrong with that . Alot of women want to try a black guy in their life's and why not? It's like alot of white men want to fuck Asian or Thai women nothing wrong with it . Maybe you don't know what the term 'kink' means which is why you don't understand why it's strange that you used it in this sentence. Obviously I do lol. It's a fetish but still see no problem with it . Some men are attracted to thai women only. Doesn't mean they have a fetishism for them " Yeah it does mean that they have a fetish for them lol It's exactly what that means hahahaha | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial There's a difference between being into interracial and being fetishised based on race... The couple you're replying to are an interracial couple who understand the difference between the two That’s fine, I just don’t understand why being fetishised is a bad thing if done with good taste It's impossible to fetishise people in 'good taste' It's essentially reducing black men down to nothing but their genitals If you're happy with that and it works for you then keep doing your thing bit it's not upto to you tell people that they shouldn't be offended by it or not. Genitals? I’m talking skin tone nothing to do with genitals babe, I thought that fetishes and kinks were perfectly fine to have as long as their legal of course. I guess it’s down to the classic each to there own. And I’m certainly not telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t be offended by I’m just pointing out it annoys me to see people offended by the love/like/fetishisation of a skin tone" I was refering to the term BBC The term kink "2a : a mental or physical peculiarity : eccentricity, quirk." If you're happy to be refered to in this way then do you | |||
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"End of the day everyone is going to have different opinions about this .. some guys like calling themselves bbc some don't. Some women like being called sluts some don't.. " ................................ You're missing my point it's when these references are adopted into the common vernacular. | |||
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"End of the day everyone is going to have different opinions about this .. some guys like calling themselves bbc some don't. Some women like being called sluts some don't.. ................................ You're missing my point it's when these references are adopted into the common vernacular." Sadly he's not the only one on this thread who missing the point Don't worry, I understood what you meant | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial There's a difference between being into interracial and being fetishised based on race... The couple you're replying to are an interracial couple who understand the difference between the two That’s fine, I just don’t understand why being fetishised is a bad thing if done with good taste It's impossible to fetishise people in 'good taste' It's essentially reducing black men down to nothing but their genitals If you're happy with that and it works for you then keep doing your thing bit it's not upto to you tell people that they shouldn't be offended by it or not. Genitals? I’m talking skin tone nothing to do with genitals babe, I thought that fetishes and kinks were perfectly fine to have as long as their legal of course. I guess it’s down to the classic each to there own. And I’m certainly not telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t be offended by I’m just pointing out it annoys me to see people offended by the love/like/fetishisation of a skin tone I was refering to the term BBC The term kink "2a : a mental or physical peculiarity : eccentricity, quirk." If you're happy to be refered to in this way then do you " Oh ok I mean I hadn’t mentioned BBC whatsoever so was confused but I do get that is a Broad label some may be offended by, for example a black guy with a small penis. I can see why that’s a problem. The kink statement I don’t have a problem with, quirky, eccentric these aren’t bad words. By all means I will do me and I’m sure you will do you everyone is allowed to have their own outlook and preferences as long as it doesn’t harm others | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? " Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded?" Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him " So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile? | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile?" I would simply scroll by completely unoffended. I may be disappointed if I was attracted to them but I’d easily move on to the next profile. I’m sure you’d agree There’s loads of white men only profiles funny enough I’ve never seen a forum post about it. You would have a hard time on here being offended by peoples preferences everyone is different | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile? I would simply scroll by completely unoffended. I may be disappointed if I was attracted to them but I’d easily move on to the next profile. I’m sure you’d agree There’s loads of white men only profiles funny enough I’ve never seen a forum post about it. You would have a hard time on here being offended by peoples preferences everyone is different " How refreshing. I often see plenty of posts on here stating people are racist because of preferences. To actually have someone say they are not bothered by it makes a pleasant change. | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile? I would simply scroll by completely unoffended. I may be disappointed if I was attracted to them but I’d easily move on to the next profile. I’m sure you’d agree There’s loads of white men only profiles funny enough I’ve never seen a forum post about it. You would have a hard time on here being offended by peoples preferences everyone is different How refreshing. I often see plenty of posts on here stating people are racist because of preferences. To actually have someone say they are not bothered by it makes a pleasant change. " ................................ I don't think anyone on this thread has said it's racist to express a preference, but equally would you accept those preferences can be motivated by racism in some cases? | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile? I would simply scroll by completely unoffended. I may be disappointed if I was attracted to them but I’d easily move on to the next profile. I’m sure you’d agree There’s loads of white men only profiles funny enough I’ve never seen a forum post about it. You would have a hard time on here being offended by peoples preferences everyone is different How refreshing. I often see plenty of posts on here stating people are racist because of preferences. To actually have someone say they are not bothered by it makes a pleasant change. ................................ I don't think anyone on this thread has said it's racist to express a preference, but equally would you accept those preferences can be motivated by racism in some cases?" Firstly I'm talking about fabs and the forums in general. Secondly yes I would say a minority have the preference because of racist stereotypes. But I also feel the same people who call out those with the preference are the same who are happy to be a preference when it suits them. | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile? I would simply scroll by completely unoffended. I may be disappointed if I was attracted to them but I’d easily move on to the next profile. I’m sure you’d agree There’s loads of white men only profiles funny enough I’ve never seen a forum post about it. You would have a hard time on here being offended by peoples preferences everyone is different How refreshing. I often see plenty of posts on here stating people are racist because of preferences. To actually have someone say they are not bothered by it makes a pleasant change. ................................ I don't think anyone on this thread has said it's racist to express a preference, but equally would you accept those preferences can be motivated by racism in some cases? Firstly I'm talking about fabs and the forums in general. Secondly yes I would say a minority have the preference because of racist stereotypes. But I also feel the same people who call out those with the preference are the same who are happy to be a preference when it suits them. " ............................. Interesting points, but mine was really about racism rather than racist stereotypes, it's like were confusing two separate issues. Not sure what you mean in the last sentence or what evidence you base it on. | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile?" This isn't the same thing at all Lots of profile say they prefer Caucasian play mates, if that's why they prefer why would it bother those who aren't Caucasian? Doesn't bother me in the slightest | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile? I would simply scroll by completely unoffended. I may be disappointed if I was attracted to them but I’d easily move on to the next profile. I’m sure you’d agree There’s loads of white men only profiles funny enough I’ve never seen a forum post about it. You would have a hard time on here being offended by peoples preferences everyone is different How refreshing. I often see plenty of posts on here stating people are racist because of preferences. To actually have someone say they are not bothered by it makes a pleasant change. " This is incorrect There are defo more white men crying in the forums that certain profiles only want black men than the other way around | |||
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"I would love to see this normalised. It is absolutely not OK to fetishise and dehumanise people in this way and that is exactly what it is. Education on this site as well as across society is much needed, going by the comments, memes and media produced." It is normalised, most black men and women on here, myself included don't have an issue with meeting white people The issues arise when people make it weird and start fixating on race and making the black or Asian people they're involved uncomfortable | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Would you also consider it an attribute if you were the one being excluded? Stating one’s love of something doesn’t always automatically exclude another does it. But to answer your question yes I would consider it an attribute, my friend has big muscles and some girls like him for it. Just because I don’t have big muscles doesn’t take away that attribute from him So your happy with a couple stating no black men or white men only on their profile? I would simply scroll by completely unoffended. I may be disappointed if I was attracted to them but I’d easily move on to the next profile. I’m sure you’d agree There’s loads of white men only profiles funny enough I’ve never seen a forum post about it. You would have a hard time on here being offended by peoples preferences everyone is different How refreshing. I often see plenty of posts on here stating people are racist because of preferences. To actually have someone say they are not bothered by it makes a pleasant change. This is incorrect There are defo more white men crying in the forums that certain profiles only want black men than the other way around " Agreed | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. ................................. Interesting post. We're similar, been together 30 years, I'm (f), white my hubby's black. We were both enthusiastic participants in this lifestyle until around 10 years ago, we played separately and as a couple, he now only meets old friends we've met through this lifestyle. Things started to change for him as it became increasingly clear we were a novelty act to many we met together as a couple and especially some people he met on his own. Race fetishisation has been around for centuries but I believe it's more recently been legitimised by the proliferation and easy access to pornography and clever producers who've latched onto baser human instincts. The language used to describe interracial sex is increasingly dehumanising and animalistic-bbc, blacked, bull etc etc, etc. Over time it became tiresome when he/we were constantly asked if he was a "BBC", conflating a human being with his genitals, which so many here don't understand why it's problematic, or worse choose to be in denial about it. The most exceptional black men I've encountered feel the same and wouldn't meet white women/couples who want to fetishise them, these women/couples are missing out on some great experiences. Totally understand people have an interest in others of a different race, but it can be expressed without the resorting to fetish language which is some cases reveals what people really think about people of colour." I concur with everything said in both these posts. | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. " Probadly best respone I have seen on here. Well put. | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. ................................. Interesting post. We're similar, been together 30 years, I'm (f), white my hubby's black. We were both enthusiastic participants in this lifestyle until around 10 years ago, we played separately and as a couple, he now only meets old friends we've met through this lifestyle. Things started to change for him as it became increasingly clear we were a novelty act to many we met together as a couple and especially some people he met on his own. Race fetishisation has been around for centuries but I believe it's more recently been legitimised by the proliferation and easy access to pornography and clever producers who've latched onto baser human instincts. The language used to describe interracial sex is increasingly dehumanising and animalistic-bbc, blacked, bull etc etc, etc. Over time it became tiresome when he/we were constantly asked if he was a "BBC", conflating a human being with his genitals, which so many here don't understand why it's problematic, or worse choose to be in denial about it. The most exceptional black men I've encountered feel the same and wouldn't meet white women/couples who want to fetishise them, these women/couples are missing out on some great experiences. Totally understand people have an interest in others of a different race, but it can be expressed without the resorting to fetish language which is some cases reveals what people really think about people of colour." This!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. As a healthy-minded black man, sometimes the way non-black people describes us sounds like we are aliens, non-human or whatever and the film “Get Out” comes to mind. There is a reason why that film was made and I believe it was for this very “othering” of black people, which is ridiculous since we have been on this planet longer than anyone else. You definitely give me hope that there are still clear-headed thinkers out there. | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? " Hate to break it to you but skin colour is not an attribute. The Cambridge dictionary describes “attribute” as “a quality or characteristic that someone or something has such as; - for e.g. a key/essential attribute: A key attribute of the new service will be flexibility. - Organizational ability is an essential attribute for a good manager. - What are the skills and personal attributes needed for success? a positive/negative attribute” There is nothing inherent about a person’s skin colour (not race as there only one) that determines if they have a specific quality or characteristic. I thought we had moved on from the same tired tropes employed by Francis Galton et al since the 1800s. Please tell me we have! Why is it always the white dudes who like to tell others what they should like and feel? | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Hate to break it to you but skin colour is not an attribute. The Cambridge dictionary describes “attribute” as “a quality or characteristic that someone or something has such as; - for e.g. a key/essential attribute: A key attribute of the new service will be flexibility. - Organizational ability is an essential attribute for a good manager. - What are the skills and personal attributes needed for success? a positive/negative attribute” There is nothing inherent about a person’s skin colour (not race as there only one) that determines if they have a specific quality or characteristic. I thought we had moved on from the same tired tropes employed by Francis Galton et al since the 1800s. Please tell me we have! Why is it always the white dudes who like to tell others what they should like and feel?" The person you replied to is black hahaha | |||
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"I would love to see this normalised. It is absolutely not OK to fetishise and dehumanise people in this way and that is exactly what it is. Education on this site as well as across society is much needed, going by the comments, memes and media produced. It is normalised, most black men and women on here, myself included don't have an issue with meeting white people The issues arise when people make it weird and start fixating on race and making the black or Asian people they're involved uncomfortable " You hit the nail on the head with bbc terminology, it is degrading and it does make me feel uncomfortable, uninterested and finally I lose respect for the other person. | |||
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"Love interracial, nothing wrong with the term whatsoever, I really find people on here who are offended by this language or the pointing out of one’s skin tone offensive so annoying, there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste, this is a swing/sex based site people indulge in everything available and stop looking for a reason to be offended ................................ Personally I'm not looking for 'reasons to be offended', dismissive statements like that devalue the conversation and the people contributing to it. If you don't mind being racially fetishised that's fine, but many people do and trivialising that fact doesn't help anyone other than those with an entrenched view. Many people do and don’t and OP clearly started the post for those into interracial There's a difference between being into interracial and being fetishised based on race... The couple you're replying to are an interracial couple who understand the difference between the two That’s fine, I just don’t understand why being fetishised is a bad thing if done with good taste It's impossible to fetishise people in 'good taste' It's essentially reducing black men down to nothing but their genitals If you're happy with that and it works for you then keep doing your thing bit it's not upto to you tell people that they shouldn't be offended by it or not. Genitals? I’m talking skin tone nothing to do with genitals babe, I thought that fetishes and kinks were perfectly fine to have as long as their legal of course. I guess it’s down to the classic each to there own. And I’m certainly not telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t be offended by I’m just pointing out it annoys me to see people offended by the love/like/fetishisation of a skin tone I was refering to the term BBC The term kink "2a : a mental or physical peculiarity : eccentricity, quirk." If you're happy to be refered to in this way then do you Oh ok I mean I hadn’t mentioned BBC whatsoever so was confused but I do get that is a Broad label some may be offended by, for example a black guy with a small penis. I can see why that’s a problem. The kink statement I don’t have a problem with, quirky, eccentric these aren’t bad words. By all means I will do me and I’m sure you will do you everyone is allowed to have their own outlook and preferences as long as it doesn’t harm others " But you have been told repeatedly on this forum that black men, such as myself, find it extremely offensive. The fact that some black men delight in calling themselves that (and I contend that they do cos they haven’t taken the time out to look into how these tropes were used to dehumanise our ancestors and us in the past) doesn’t mean it should be automatically conferred onto every single black man out there. I am sure that you or know that doing harm is not always on a physical level, right? | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Hate to break it to you but skin colour is not an attribute. The Cambridge dictionary describes “attribute” as “a quality or characteristic that someone or something has such as; - for e.g. a key/essential attribute: A key attribute of the new service will be flexibility. - Organizational ability is an essential attribute for a good manager. - What are the skills and personal attributes needed for success? a positive/negative attribute” There is nothing inherent about a person’s skin colour (not race as there only one) that determines if they have a specific quality or characteristic. I thought we had moved on from the same tired tropes employed by Francis Galton et al since the 1800s. Please tell me we have! Why is it always the white dudes who like to tell others what they should like and feel? The person you replied to is black hahaha " I was replying to the post but my last comment is about the overall thread in general and those telling us that we shouldn’t worry about harmful tropes. But noted. | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Hate to break it to you but skin colour is not an attribute. The Cambridge dictionary describes “attribute” as “a quality or characteristic that someone or something has such as; - for e.g. a key/essential attribute: A key attribute of the new service will be flexibility. - Organizational ability is an essential attribute for a good manager. - What are the skills and personal attributes needed for success? a positive/negative attribute” There is nothing inherent about a person’s skin colour (not race as there only one) that determines if they have a specific quality or characteristic. I thought we had moved on from the same tired tropes employed by Francis Galton et al since the 1800s. Please tell me we have! Why is it always the white dudes who like to tell others what they should like and feel? The person you replied to is black hahaha I was replying to the post but my last comment is about the overall thread in general and those telling us that we shouldn’t worry about harmful tropes. But noted." I meant the person who wrote the post you replied to xx | |||
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"there is nothing wrong with championing someone for there attributes, I don’t mind being fetishised as long as this is done with good taste. Is someone's skin colour a attribute? I'd thought this was like saying one colour is superior to another? I’d say it is a attribute, why would this mean one is superior to another? Hate to break it to you but skin colour is not an attribute. The Cambridge dictionary describes “attribute” as “a quality or characteristic that someone or something has such as; - for e.g. a key/essential attribute: A key attribute of the new service will be flexibility. - Organizational ability is an essential attribute for a good manager. - What are the skills and personal attributes needed for success? a positive/negative attribute” There is nothing inherent about a person’s skin colour (not race as there only one) that determines if they have a specific quality or characteristic. I thought we had moved on from the same tired tropes employed by Francis Galton et al since the 1800s. Please tell me we have! Why is it always the white dudes who like to tell others what they should like and feel? The person you replied to is black hahaha I was replying to the post but my last comment is about the overall thread in general and those telling us that we shouldn’t worry about harmful tropes. But noted. I meant the person who wrote the post you replied to xx" I understood your initial comment. | |||
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"Love me some interracial 'hanky panky' but fun fact! I've never had sexual relations with lady of my own ethnicity Why? Fuck knows haha" That’s weird | |||
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"Love me some interracial 'hanky panky' but fun fact! I've never had sexual relations with lady of my own ethnicity Why? Fuck knows haha That’s weird " Nothing weird about it might be his preference | |||
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"It seems its almost illegal to have a preference these days. Why can't we say without fear of being lambasted that we do not in general find people from the Far East or the West Indies physically attractive but we can say we prefer a white car rather than a red car! Sex is principally about physical attraction so why cant we express a preference." Spot on | |||
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"It seems its almost illegal to have a preference these days. Why can't we say without fear of being lambasted that we do not in general find people from the Far East or the West Indies physically attractive but we can say we prefer a white car rather than a red car! Sex is principally about physical attraction so why cant we express a preference." I’m mixed race and have no problem with it. I use it as an easy filter but I think the reasoning is it’s impossible to find an entire race unattractive because not all people of the same race look the same. If you think they do then that is when it becomes racist. | |||
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"Love me some interracial 'hanky panky' but fun fact! I've never had sexual relations with lady of my own ethnicity Why? Fuck knows haha That’s weird Nothing weird about it might be his preference " I think it’s weird he’s never been with someone of his own ethnicity and he doesn’t even know why. You have a problem with that? If so, too bad. | |||
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"It seems its almost illegal to have a preference these days. Why can't we say without fear of being lambasted that we do not in general find people from the Far East or the West Indies physically attractive but we can say we prefer a white car rather than a red car! Sex is principally about physical attraction so why cant we express a preference." Do you know what the term preference means? Anyway, no one cares what you have a preference (or in many cases, more accurately, a prerequisite) FOR. We don’t care to hear what you DON’T have a preference for. One seems reasonable and fine, the under makes you seem crude and gauche. E.g. it’s fine to say I like redheads, prefer slim women. It’s less cool to say “no blacks, fats, or Asians”—- get it? | |||
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" Lol oh I’m a flake now because I called out your problematic term. Seems you’re more butt hurt over the fact I did that instead of scrolling along. It’s 2022. Catch up. " Not at all, your the flake with issues, just look at the green button, its plain to see to jump down anyones throat mentioning race, baiting for a argument. Your a embarrassment. Carefull you dont melt. Have a fab evening | |||
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"Why do these threads always end up taking a nasty turn " Because racism is nasty? The suggestion that people might be upsets them and they lash out. Fetishising people because of their race is also nasty... | |||
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"Why do these threads always end up taking a nasty turn " Thankfully admin jave removed the nasty parts The problem is people want to be free to be racist and when they're called out on it instead of learning they throw the word 'snow flake' around | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. " Perfect response I was going to argue the same. Attraction is a much more complex process than just the skin colour. | |||
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"Why do these threads always end up taking a nasty turn Because racism is nasty? The suggestion that people might be upsets them and they lash out. Fetishising people because of their race is also nasty..." Fetish part to be debating but I understand what you mean | |||
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"I like the person I don’t care what colour they are. What is a huge turn off is when I get messages saying, you are so my type you are mixed race or, I’ve never had sex with a mixed race person before but I would love to, I love your chocolate skin!! Come on now is this really acceptable especially to a stranger. I’m sorry I don’t want to have sex with someone who just sees me as part of their fetish " DITTO. People are seen and viewed as objects/toys for use. | |||
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"We're an interracial couple of 20+ years and skin colour has nothing to do with why we are together, it's about compatibility, commonality and obviously love but fab's slightly different. From my (he) perspective I want to see Mrs N from the third person angle, impossible between us so I get this via fab and identity via the black guys she's fucking, it makes zero difference to Mrs N the colour of the guy. So yes,we're into interracial meets but not for the reasons many may think. ................................. Interesting post. We're similar, been together 30 years, I'm (f), white my hubby's black. We were both enthusiastic participants in this lifestyle until around 10 years ago, we played separately and as a couple, he now only meets old friends we've met through this lifestyle. Things started to change for him as it became increasingly clear we were a novelty act to many we met together as a couple and especially some people he met on his own. Race fetishisation has been around for centuries but I believe it's more recently been legitimised by the proliferation and easy access to pornography and clever producers who've latched onto baser human instincts. The language used to describe interracial sex is increasingly dehumanising and animalistic-bbc, blacked, bull etc etc, etc. Over time it became tiresome when he/we were constantly asked if he was a "BBC", conflating a human being with his genitals, which so many here don't understand why it's problematic, or worse choose to be in denial about it. The most exceptional black men I've encountered feel the same and wouldn't meet white women/couples who want to fetishise them, these women/couples are missing out on some great experiences. Totally understand people have an interest in others of a different race, but it can be expressed without the resorting to fetish language which is some cases reveals what people really think about people of colour." Excellent post/explanation. Very informative thanks | |||
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"I prefer white women as a man of Indian origin though I’ve never once in my life heard any woman profess a preference for Indian men! " Not on fab. Will ever be a first .if it never ever happens. Do read the profiles very clearly many do state whom they don't want.. | |||
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"Not on fab. Will ever be a first .if it never ever happens. Do read the profiles very clearly many do state whom they don't want.. " Their loss. I’m fit as fuck and have a gorgeous girlfriend because of it. To each their own I suppose. | |||
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"Not on fab. Will ever be a first .if it never ever happens. Do read the profiles very clearly many do state whom they don't want.. Their loss. I’m fit as fuck and have a gorgeous girlfriend because of it. To each their own I suppose." They never see it as their loss ever!! You have your piece of happiness keep smiling.. | |||
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"Would love to do more interacial, its tends to be all black or white ive had in the past would love to really mix it up. Every nation welcome " Sensible attitude to have. People can be beautiful from everywhere - from a darker skinned woman like Halle Berry right through to a pale Goddess like Christina Hendricks and everything in between. To discount swathes of the population is crazy to us but again, to each their own. | |||
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