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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April?" Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing" Fair enough, I guess you have your views. I'm barely interested in the racing, mainly there for the social activities. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing" I'm shuddering at the thought! Wonder how many will die? All in the name of "sport"  | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing Fair enough, I guess you have your views. I'm barely interested in the racing, mainly there for the social activities." You might be there for the social activities but you’re still supporting the industry | |||
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"40 horses to run as a bunch, with riders hovering on their backs trying not to get squashed or trapped, flying over the biggest jumps in jump racing…. Accident waiting to happen. Don’t get me wrong I love all horses whatever their breeding & jobs but there are things I don’t agree with. And this is one of them. How many jockeys have actually been injured or died participating in this race? How many horses have ended up with a bust leg or worse broken neck needing to be shot on the track? Best thing about this is, it’s a quick death, but many of the horses who suffered a broken leg could have been saved, could have gone on to live a normal healthy ridden life, but racing is about money, not the love for horses. It’s money money money. The horse might be worth a lot while alive, but don’t be fooled, it will also be worth a lot dead, as they are insured for it. They would get less insurance back if the horse was PTS back at home in its familiar stable with the grooms it knows or on the training gallops. But if it should be PTS while on the track, the pay back is a lot more, because it was doing it job at the time. " Its not quick though. They have to arrive at the horse, screen it off, check it then shoot it. Itll be in agony all that time. Not enough jockeys get seriously hurt, cuz if they got injured or killed at the same rate as the horses, itd be stopped straight away, | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing" Do you protest at all racing events? | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing Do you protest at all racing events?" Is that all horse racing or does that include greyhound racing too? Greyhound racing isn’t squeaky clean either, plus there also lesser known Arab horse racing. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing Do you protest at all racing events? Is that all horse racing or does that include greyhound racing too? Greyhound racing isn’t squeaky clean either, plus there also lesser known Arab horse racing. " Anything that uses animals as entertainment after abusing them, sorry, my english is crap, i meant training them | |||
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"40 horses to run as a bunch, with riders hovering on their backs trying not to get squashed or trapped, flying over the biggest jumps in jump racing…. Accident waiting to happen. Don’t get me wrong I love all horses whatever their breeding & jobs but there are things I don’t agree with. And this is one of them. How many jockeys have actually been injured or died participating in this race? How many horses have ended up with a bust leg or worse broken neck needing to be shot on the track? Best thing about this is, it’s a quick death, but many of the horses who suffered a broken leg could have been saved, could have gone on to live a normal healthy ridden life, but racing is about money, not the love for horses. It’s money money money. The horse might be worth a lot while alive, but don’t be fooled, it will also be worth a lot dead, as they are insured for it. They would get less insurance back if the horse was PTS back at home in its familiar stable with the grooms it knows or on the training gallops. But if it should be PTS while on the track, the pay back is a lot more, because it was doing it job at the time. " One jockey has died in this race, Horses that have broken a leg simply cannot be saved, if a human breaks their leg after treatment for the injury what do you do? rest and keep the weight off the leg until the fracture heals, how do you propose to get a horse to do this, it simply cannot be done, the simple fact is a horses leg is so delicate once its broken it cannot be treated and the humane thing to do is put the horse down, usually at great upset to all those involved with the creature, but hey dont let simple facts get in the way. | |||
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"40 horses to run as a bunch, with riders hovering on their backs trying not to get squashed or trapped, flying over the biggest jumps in jump racing…. Accident waiting to happen. Don’t get me wrong I love all horses whatever their breeding & jobs but there are things I don’t agree with. And this is one of them. How many jockeys have actually been injured or died participating in this race? How many horses have ended up with a bust leg or worse broken neck needing to be shot on the track? Best thing about this is, it’s a quick death, but many of the horses who suffered a broken leg could have been saved, could have gone on to live a normal healthy ridden life, but racing is about money, not the love for horses. It’s money money money. The horse might be worth a lot while alive, but don’t be fooled, it will also be worth a lot dead, as they are insured for it. They would get less insurance back if the horse was PTS back at home in its familiar stable with the grooms it knows or on the training gallops. But if it should be PTS while on the track, the pay back is a lot more, because it was doing it job at the time. One jockey has died in this race, Horses that have broken a leg simply cannot be saved, if a human breaks their leg after treatment for the injury what do you do? rest and keep the weight off the leg until the fracture heals, how do you propose to get a horse to do this, it simply cannot be done, the simple fact is a horses leg is so delicate once its broken it cannot be treated and the humane thing to do is put the horse down, usually at great upset to all those involved with the creature, but hey dont let simple facts get in the way." Simple fact aswell are horses skeletons are not strong enough to be put through racing till around 4 years old, so why do they run 2 year olds, bearing in mind the training needed before running. Also regarding the leg break, its the fact theyre put in the position in the 1st place. No one ever mentions lung bleed, or burst vessels in the eyes though due to extreme stresses on them being forced to run to the ABSOLUTE limit. The whole thing is a barbarity, and all for money, and so women can buy a new hat, go and get pissed and think theyre in miss world or something | |||
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"40 horses to run as a bunch, with riders hovering on their backs trying not to get squashed or trapped, flying over the biggest jumps in jump racing…. Accident waiting to happen. Don’t get me wrong I love all horses whatever their breeding & jobs but there are things I don’t agree with. And this is one of them. How many jockeys have actually been injured or died participating in this race? How many horses have ended up with a bust leg or worse broken neck needing to be shot on the track? Best thing about this is, it’s a quick death, but many of the horses who suffered a broken leg could have been saved, could have gone on to live a normal healthy ridden life, but racing is about money, not the love for horses. It’s money money money. The horse might be worth a lot while alive, but don’t be fooled, it will also be worth a lot dead, as they are insured for it. They would get less insurance back if the horse was PTS back at home in its familiar stable with the grooms it knows or on the training gallops. But if it should be PTS while on the track, the pay back is a lot more, because it was doing it job at the time. One jockey has died in this race, Horses that have broken a leg simply cannot be saved, if a human breaks their leg after treatment for the injury what do you do? rest and keep the weight off the leg until the fracture heals, how do you propose to get a horse to do this, it simply cannot be done, the simple fact is a horses leg is so delicate once its broken it cannot be treated and the humane thing to do is put the horse down, usually at great upset to all those involved with the creature, but hey dont let simple facts get in the way." Ohh well as u put it like that it's OK then! Jeez does that simple fact not tell u it should be banned??? X | |||
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"40 horses to run as a bunch, with riders hovering on their backs trying not to get squashed or trapped, flying over the biggest jumps in jump racing…. Accident waiting to happen. Don’t get me wrong I love all horses whatever their breeding & jobs but there are things I don’t agree with. And this is one of them. How many jockeys have actually been injured or died participating in this race? How many horses have ended up with a bust leg or worse broken neck needing to be shot on the track? Best thing about this is, it’s a quick death, but many of the horses who suffered a broken leg could have been saved, could have gone on to live a normal healthy ridden life, but racing is about money, not the love for horses. It’s money money money. The horse might be worth a lot while alive, but don’t be fooled, it will also be worth a lot dead, as they are insured for it. They would get less insurance back if the horse was PTS back at home in its familiar stable with the grooms it knows or on the training gallops. But if it should be PTS while on the track, the pay back is a lot more, because it was doing it job at the time. One jockey has died in this race, Horses that have broken a leg simply cannot be saved, if a human breaks their leg after treatment for the injury what do you do? rest and keep the weight off the leg until the fracture heals, how do you propose to get a horse to do this, it simply cannot be done, the simple fact is a horses leg is so delicate once its broken it cannot be treated and the humane thing to do is put the horse down, usually at great upset to all those involved with the creature, but hey dont let simple facts get in the way. Simple fact aswell are horses skeletons are not strong enough to be put through racing till around 4 years old, so why do they run 2 year olds, bearing in mind the training needed before running. Also regarding the leg break, its the fact theyre put in the position in the 1st place. No one ever mentions lung bleed, or burst vessels in the eyes though due to extreme stresses on them being forced to run to the ABSOLUTE limit. The whole thing is a barbarity, and all for money, and so women can buy a new hat, go and get pissed and think theyre in miss world or something" Greed is a nasty thing!! Us humans are truly vile!! x | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing" the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds"Yep. The only difference being that if you had a pet greyhound and let it off the lead, the 1st thing itll do is run, and then run some more. Horses without jockeys, eat grass and mooch about | |||
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"Simple fact aswell are horses skeletons are not strong enough to be put through racing till around 4 years old, so why do they run 2 year olds, bearing in mind the training needed before running. Also regarding the leg break, its the fact theyre put in the position in the 1st place. No one ever mentions lung bleed, or burst vessels in the eyes though due to extreme stresses on them being forced to run to the ABSOLUTE limit. The whole thing is a barbarity, and all for money, and so women can buy a new hat, go and get pissed and think theyre in miss world or something" Age. That’s not even true most horses aren’t mature enough to do any hard ridden work til they are around 5. Heavier breeds aren’t at skeletal/muscle maturity until around 7 years old. Certainly a TB should not be getting sat on at just a year old, never mind raced at 2 & that’s flat racing. Some are bred purely for jump racing which is slightly better as they are allowed to mature somewhat more than the flat racers, even with a successful racing life they can be done by 4/5 years old. The lucky ones are sold on or sent to a TB rehabilitation yard so they can be retrained but that’s hard if all they know is galloping in a semi straight line. My niece has an ex racer, she was a brood mare but after having colic both times after foaling, it was decided to find her a new home. Some go on to become point to pointers or hunt racers (Grand national), the unlucky ones or the ones who don’t make the racing grade are sent to slaughter. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds"Where did you get that info from? Race horses are actually treated very well, huge stables, best food, twice daily grooming, some even get a weekly can of Guinness. If they were treated badly it would show in their health | |||
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"The woke are out in force. I bet most of them own a dog or cat but do not see the irony of their comments re horses. " I tend not to race my dogs or cat! Doh!!  | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing" Well said...I totally agree...and 4 Horses died at Cheltenham | |||
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"The woke are out in force. I bet most of them own a dog or cat but do not see the irony of their comments re horses. " giving a dog or cat a loving home is not beating it to jump insane jumps that can kill ?? big big difference | |||
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"Fatalities are fortunately quite rare and most horses in training are very well looked after. The industry contributes about £5bn to the UK economy and supports over 100,000 jobs. I'm sure there are some rogues out there but the industry is pretty well regulated. " Approximately 200 horses die every year on British racecourses...221 in the year 2021. A horse's heartbeat can increase tenfold during a race – from 25 beats per minute to an excessive 250 beats – leading to total exhaustion and sometimes collapse, in the hot weather some collapse of heat exhaustion. Far too many are bred but are not raced and mostly end up at the abattoir. Some trainers and even the really well known trainers will continue to train them when they have a air line fracture...this putting the bones at risk of snapping when put under stress on the gallops or racing on the track. A new law is that any Racehorse is no longer able to be sold for human consumption...meaning a injured horse can be treated with the correct pain relief that is poisonous to humans..That law itself tells you what has been going on behind the scenes!  | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds"What absolute nonsense.. I have worked in the racing industry and I can tell you a lot of racehorses are treated much better than a lot of children..Diet, exercise and they have a lovely warm safe bed for the night..They are bred for racing.. | |||
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"The woke are out in force. I bet most of them own a dog or cat but do not see the irony of their comments re horses. " I’ve had a dog, I currently have two cats. I have ridden horses since the age of 7, I worked with horses within an Arab Stud yard, tho we’re also had two Arab racing ponies and an Arab dressage, I then worked in the riding school where I originally learnt to ride. After that, I had horses on loan. I stopped riding due to health issues in 2012. Even went back to riding and competing after a life changing riding related accident in 1993. I think I know a thing or two about horses and aspects of all the disciplines and yes, racing. | |||
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"The woke are out in force. I bet most of them own a dog or cat but do not see the irony of their comments re horses" I’ve had a dog, I currently have two cats. I have ridden horses since the age of 7, I worked with horses within an Arab Stud yard, THE OWNER also had two Arab racing ponies and an Arab dressage, I then worked in the riding school where I originally learnt to ride. After that, I had horses on loan. I stopped riding due to health issues in 2012. Even went back to riding and competing after a life changing riding related accident in 1993. I think I know a thing or two about horses and aspects of all the disciplines and yes, racing. | |||
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"The woke are out in force. I bet most of them own a dog or cat but do not see the irony of their comments re horses I’ve had a dog, I currently have two cats. I have ridden horses since the age of 7, I worked with horses within an Arab Stud yard, THE OWNER also had two Arab racing ponies and an Arab dressage, I then worked in the riding school where I originally learnt to ride. After that, I had horses on loan. I stopped riding due to health issues in 2012. Even went back to riding and competing after a life changing riding related accident in 1993. I think I know a thing or two about horses and aspects of all the disciplines and yes, racing. " Did you see abuse and mistreatment? | |||
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"Fatalities are fortunately quite rare and most horses in training are very well looked after. The industry contributes about £5bn to the UK economy and supports over 100,000 jobs. I'm sure there are some rogues out there but the industry is pretty well regulated. Approximately 200 horses die every year on British racecourses...221 in the year 2021. A horse's heartbeat can increase tenfold during a race – from 25 beats per minute to an excessive 250 beats – leading to total exhaustion and sometimes collapse, in the hot weather some collapse of heat exhaustion. Far too many are bred but are not raced and mostly end up at the abattoir. Some trainers and even the really well known trainers will continue to train them when they have a air line fracture...this putting the bones at risk of snapping when put under stress on the gallops or racing on the track. A new law is that any Racehorse is no longer able to be sold for human consumption...meaning a injured horse can be treated with the correct pain relief that is poisonous to humans..That law itself tells you what has been going on behind the scenes! "BS! Any horse sent for slaughter does not enter the human food chain in the UK simply because we do not eat horses. Unless they are shipped to France. Horses slaughtered here usually end up in dog food. It’s always been a vets practice not to give drugs to a horse if the owner intends to have them enter the food chain. They will have the owner sign a document so they have proof that the owner was aware of this when the drug is administered. Another way of euthanising a horse is by taking it to a hunt yard, the horse is then shot by a hunt master and fed to the dogs. Obviously they need to have a certificate that says they have been cleared of any drugs in their body | |||
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"Fatalities are fortunately quite rare and most horses in training are very well looked after. The industry contributes about £5bn to the UK economy and supports over 100,000 jobs. I'm sure there are some rogues out there but the industry is pretty well regulated. Approximately 200 horses die every year on British racecourses...221 in the year 2021. A horse's heartbeat can increase tenfold during a race – from 25 beats per minute to an excessive 250 beats – leading to total exhaustion and sometimes collapse, in the hot weather some collapse of heat exhaustion. Far too many are bred but are not raced and mostly end up at the abattoir. Some trainers and even the really well known trainers will continue to train them when they have a air line fracture...this putting the bones at risk of snapping when put under stress on the gallops or racing on the track. A new law is that any Racehorse is no longer able to be sold for human consumption...meaning a injured horse can be treated with the correct pain relief that is poisonous to humans..That law itself tells you what has been going on behind the scenes!
BS! Any horse sent for slaughter does not enter the human food chain in the UK simply because we do not eat horses. Unless they are shipped to France. Horses slaughtered here usually end up in dog food. It’s always been a vets practice not to give drugs to a horse if the owner intends to have them enter the food chain. They will have the owner sign a document so they have proof that the owner was aware of this when the drug is administered.
Another way of euthanising a horse is by taking it to a hunt yard, the horse is then shot by a hunt master and fed to the dogs. Obviously they need to have a certificate that says they have been cleared of any drugs in their body"I never stated that they stay in the UK as I know we do not eat Horse meat...the carcass get's shipped to the EU and Brazil. There are 2 abattoirs in the UK that are licensed to take Horses in, Chester and Devon way, they take Horses shipped over alive from Ireland too, strict rules are supposed to be followed...No animal is to see another shot, the gun is to be held directly to the head, No animal should be left in pain....Both these abattoirs have been found to break these rules and have both been prosecuted for that. | |||
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"The woke are out in force. I bet most of them own a dog or cat but do not see the irony of their comments re horses I’ve had a dog, I currently have two cats. I have ridden horses since the age of 7, I worked with horses within an Arab Stud yard, THE OWNER also had two Arab racing ponies and an Arab dressage, I then worked in the riding school where I originally learnt to ride. After that, I had horses on loan. I stopped riding due to health issues in 2012. Even went back to riding and competing after a life changing riding related accident in 1993. I think I know a thing or two about horses and aspects of all the disciplines and yes, racing. Did you see abuse and mistreatment?" No never, not in the two establishments where I worked. Also in the riding school, the husband of the couple raced trotters in Sulkys, again those horses were impeccably looked after, not by us, but they had their own grooms. I once saw a donkey alone in a field with overgrown hooves when I was about 14, out on a hack. I told the RS owner about it and the location, she went out of her way to see robots predicament and sought help for it. She didn’t have to it wasn’t her animals but she did so anyway. Another time when I was 21/22, I came across a mare and her daughter (she was over a year old) in a postage size stamp muddy field. On holiday. I was talking to the owner & was horrified to learn that the father of the yearling was a stallion that was currently on loan to the Arab Stud yard where I worked. I reported them to the SSPCA on my return. The last thing I heard was both had been seized from the owner as both were underweight. That same lady stole a friends horse a few moths later. She also went on holiday leaving her dogs and cats in the house with no one to look after h the them. When she got back the cats were dead and half eaten by the dogs. After that her house was repossessed by the bank and I believe she ended up in a mental institution. It’s a shame in a way that she had mental health issues but she was also a loner so no one knew. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds
Where did you get that info from? Race horses are actually treated very well, huge stables, best food, twice daily grooming, some even get a weekly can of Guinness. If they were treated badly it would show in their health "I got it from facts, not by making excuses for animal cruelty to continue. | |||
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"Tickets purchased and hotel booked "Have a wonderful time.. You didn't ask for some of the outrageous nonsense spouted off on here. | |||
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"Tickets purchased and hotel booked
Have a wonderful time..
You didn't ask for some of the outrageous nonsense spouted off on here.
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds
Where did you get that info from? Race horses are actually treated very well, huge stables, best food, twice daily grooming, some even get a weekly can of Guinness. If they were treated badly it would show in their health
I got it from facts, not by making excuses for animal cruelty to continue."Sadly some will never see this for the £ signs in their eyes! X | |||
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"40 horses to run as a bunch, with riders hovering on their backs trying not to get squashed or trapped, flying over the biggest jumps in jump racing…. Accident waiting to happen. Don’t get me wrong I love all horses whatever their breeding & jobs but there are things I don’t agree with. And this is one of them. How many jockeys have actually been injured or died participating in this race? How many horses have ended up with a bust leg or worse broken neck needing to be shot on the track? Best thing about this is, it’s a quick death, but many of the horses who suffered a broken leg could have been saved, could have gone on to live a normal healthy ridden life, but racing is about money, not the love for horses. It’s money money money. The horse might be worth a lot while alive, but don’t be fooled, it will also be worth a lot dead, as they are insured for it. They would get less insurance back if the horse was PTS back at home in its familiar stable with the grooms it knows or on the training gallops. But if it should be PTS while on the track, the pay back is a lot more, because it was doing it job at the time. One jockey has died in this race, Horses that have broken a leg simply cannot be saved, if a human breaks their leg after treatment for the injury what do you do? rest and keep the weight off the leg until the fracture heals, how do you propose to get a horse to do this, it simply cannot be done, the simple fact is a horses leg is so delicate once its broken it cannot be treated and the humane thing to do is put the horse down, usually at great upset to all those involved with the creature, but hey dont let simple facts get in the way. Simple fact aswell are horses skeletons are not strong enough to be put through racing till around 4 years old, so why do they run 2 year olds, bearing in mind the training needed before running. Also regarding the leg break, its the fact theyre put in the position in the 1st place. No one ever mentions lung bleed, or burst vessels in the eyes though due to extreme stresses on them being forced to run to the ABSOLUTE limit. The whole thing is a barbarity, and all for money, and so women can buy a new hat, go and get pissed and think theyre in miss world or something Greed is a nasty thing!! Us humans are truly vile!! x" | |||
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"Tickets purchased and hotel booked
Have a wonderful time..
You didn't ask for some of the outrageous nonsense spouted off on here.
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"Tickets purchased and hotel booked
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You didn't ask for some of the outrageous nonsense spouted off on here.
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds"I have to disagree, most greyhound trainers lover their dogs , there treated like athletes with correct diet and exercise. Have you ever seen a van being loaded with dogs going to race ? The dogs absolutely love it. What the increasing population of puppy farmed designer breeds with health issues from poor breeding for maximum profit would say those dogs are treated like shit. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds
Where did you get that info from? Race horses are actually treated very well, huge stables, best food, twice daily grooming, some even get a weekly can of Guinness. If they were treated badly it would show in their health
I got it from facts, not by making excuses for animal cruelty to continue."Facts - so not based on experience | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds
I have to disagree, most greyhound trainers lover their dogs , there treated like athletes with correct diet and exercise. Have you ever seen a van being loaded with dogs going to race ? The dogs absolutely love it. What the increasing population of puppy farmed designer breeds with health issues from poor breeding for maximum profit would say those dogs are treated like shit."Those that breed, train & race greyhounds are very few in between that actually love the dogs, they love the money they win, but if they don’t win, many are taken round the back of the building with a guy who has been asked to ‘dispose’ of them doesn’t happen everywhere some lucky ones are handed over to greyhound rescues, those that aren’t are badly disposed of many maimed and left to die. I know this as have friends who work tirelessly to try and save them from that fate. They are not treated like athletes they are treated like commodities and got rid of the minute they stop winning | |||
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It's called people's opinions! On an open forum! "My point ( not very well made!) was op wasn't asking about horse welfare, he asked who was going to Aintree.. The bunny cuddlers can start their own thread.  | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds
I have to disagree, most greyhound trainers lover their dogs , there treated like athletes with correct diet and exercise. Have you ever seen a van being loaded with dogs going to race ? The dogs absolutely love it. What the increasing population of puppy farmed designer breeds with health issues from poor breeding for maximum profit would say those dogs are treated like shit."Horses and dogs are pushed to the limit, given performance enhancing drugs and as Jess said, they are commodities who’ll be disposed of when they aren’t able to produce. While there are a few, too few, trainers who do look after their charges they’re very much in the minority and the majority don’t much care for the law in regard to animal welfare. | |||
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"Tickets purchased and hotel booked
Have a wonderful time..
You didn't ask for some of the outrageous nonsense spouted off on here.
It's called people's opinions! On an open forum!
My point ( not very well made!) was op wasn't asking about horse welfare, he asked who was going to Aintree..
The bunny cuddlers can start their own thread. "Um nope! If u start a thread whatever u asked u must expect to get comments u may not have asked for! Simples!x | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing the horses are treated like shit, like greyhounds
I have to disagree, most greyhound trainers lover their dogs , there treated like athletes with correct diet and exercise. Have you ever seen a van being loaded with dogs going to race ? The dogs absolutely love it. What the increasing population of puppy farmed designer breeds with health issues from poor breeding for maximum profit would say those dogs are treated like shit.
Those that breed, train & race greyhounds are very few in between that actually love the dogs, they love the money they win, but if they don’t win, many are taken round the back of the building with a guy who has been asked to ‘dispose’ of them doesn’t happen everywhere some lucky ones are handed over to greyhound rescues, those that aren’t are badly disposed of many maimed and left to die. I know this as have friends who work tirelessly to try and save them from that fate.
They are not treated like athletes they are treated like commodities and got rid of the minute they stop winning "What a load of crap. Ever heard of the green form in greyhound racing? | |||
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"The absolute nonsense spouted on this thread defies logic. Where do these so called "facts" come from?PETA websites who colour anything to suit their agenda? Gies peace. Yes 200 average a year lose their lives and every single one of them will be missed by owners,trainers,stable staff,etc but in the grand scheme of things thats about a 0.20% death rate per runner and this nonsense about making a horse do anything, Ever tried to make a half tonne animal do something it doesn't want to do? Ever seen a horse fall,get up and follow the rest,jumping along the way? But according to some on here it's being forced to do it,by who,if the jockey is on the grass already? Go to any trainers open day and see how the horses are treated. 2 or 3 feeds a day depending on routine,plenty hay and water,warm dry bedding,dry stables,rugs when it's cold,veterinary care as soon as its needed,routine check ups,the list is endless. There's people in this country would love to have even a 10th of the care and attention that is lavished on racehorses. Dont dare stand at a race meeting and say its cruel and they are mistreated when you obviously have no clue what happens behind the scenes apart from what the anti brigade say happens. Go on an anti horse racing forum and post a message showing any form of support for horse racing and see what happens. Message deleted and you are blocked. Cant have a reasoned argument with them because the REAL facts don't suit their agenda and they just end up screaming and shouting. I'm all for argument for and against but at least have an argument with information from all sides rather than the one that you support." It’s really easy to measure serum and urine levels cortisol in racing horses and dogs. In the testing programs at Newmarket (horses) and Peterborough (greyhounds and whippets) Cortisol levels are persistently way beyond safe parameters, indicating high stress. Take the same animals out of that environment and they return to somewhere near normal within 6 months, barring any acquired psychological pathology. I’ll remind you it isn’t sport, simply because in sport the participants make an informed decision to take part. | |||
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"200 a year… die at the race course. There are the other 600-1000 a year who die in training plus those who don’t make the grade and are killed when alternative rehoming can’t be found - aka sent to France or Belgium for the meat trade. Tesco lasagna anyone?" where do you get 1000 die in training? 5x more than racing? and if the whole thing is banned then where do you think the animals will end up? | |||
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"200 a year… die at the race course. There are the other 600-1000 a year who die in training plus those who don’t make the grade and are killed when alternative rehoming can’t be found - aka sent to France or Belgium for the meat trade. Tesco lasagna anyone? where do you get 1000 die in training? 5x more than racing? and if the whole thing is banned then where do you think the animals will end up?" Same as any other animal that is used for whatever purpose! Gradually dwindle out! Not be bred for this purpose ! X | |||
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"i'm not a lover of forcing a horse to run and jump etc it cant tell you its got a toothache or earache, upset tummy , feeling under the weather , stiff joints etc etc .. bit cruel really lets face it if you left the horses on the track with no rider , no way would they run and jump , theyd relax eat grass and stroll around a bit. "I'm afraid to are totally wrong in your whole assessment of a horses performance. One only gets the best from a horse with reward and kindness and any act that it performs has to be tailored to it's natural capacity whether it be dressage, jumping or racing. Horses are intelligent plains animals originally, creatures that have to have great inherant agility and speed. All one does in breeding a style of horse is focus upon developing such characteristics and in training to coax natural abilities to a particular end. I realise that those who oppose any use of the horse for work or sport will remain unconvinced but would ask how much actual hands on experience have they in working with and caring for horses? | |||
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"i'm not a lover of forcing a horse to run and jump etc it cant tell you its got a toothache or earache, upset tummy , feeling under the weather , stiff joints etc etc .. bit cruel really lets face it if you left the horses on the track with no rider , no way would they run and jump , theyd relax eat grass and stroll around a bit.
I'm afraid to are totally wrong in your whole assessment of a horses performance.
One only gets the best from a horse with reward and kindness and any act that it performs has to be tailored to it's natural capacity whether it be dressage, jumping or racing.
Horses are intelligent plains animals originally, creatures that have to have great inherant agility and speed. All one does in breeding a style of horse is focus upon developing such characteristics and in training to coax natural abilities to a particular end.
I realise that those who oppose any use of the horse for work or sport will remain unconvinced but would ask how much actual hands on experience have they in working with and caring for horses?"The huge amount of horses that die says it all, along with the attitude of some in the so called industry, eg that arsehole taking a pic sitting on a few horse. There's also plenty places that rehouse greyhounds who are dumped because they don't make money. It's ugly and people defending this shouldn't own pets | |||
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"200 a year… die at the race course. There are the other 600-1000 a year who die in training plus those who don’t make the grade and are killed when alternative rehoming can’t be found - aka sent to France or Belgium for the meat trade. Tesco lasagna anyone? where do you get 1000 die in training? 5x more than racing? and if the whole thing is banned then where do you think the animals will end up? Same as any other animal that is used for whatever purpose! Gradually dwindle out! Not be bred for this purpose ! X" But where do the circa 14000 horses just in training go right now? Just shoot them? | |||
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"200 a year… die at the race course. There are the other 600-1000 a year who die in training plus those who don’t make the grade and are killed when alternative rehoming can’t be found - aka sent to France or Belgium for the meat trade. Tesco lasagna anyone? where do you get 1000 die in training? 5x more than racing? and if the whole thing is banned then where do you think the animals will end up? Same as any other animal that is used for whatever purpose! Gradually dwindle out! Not be bred for this purpose ! X But where do the circa 14000 horses just in training go right now? Just shoot them? " Of course not! And tbh it's not gonna stop so irelavant really?? | |||
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"Should be banned from owning pets that is" such pets like puppy farmed dogs and extotic animals taken form the wild all supporting money making industries with poor animal welfare just because there not used in sport or working animals don’t make it right | |||
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"Should be banned from owning pets that is such pets like puppy farmed dogs and extotic animals taken form the wild all supporting money making industries with poor animal welfare just because there not used in sport or working animals don’t make it right " Hmm!often race the 2 dogs and cat up and down the road with children on their backs ! The neibours put bets on and come out to cheer them on! And if one of the dogs breaks a leg I will shoot it! X | |||
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"Should be banned from owning pets that is such pets like puppy farmed dogs and extotic animals taken form the wild all supporting money making industries with poor animal welfare just because there not used in sport or working animals don’t make it right Hmm!often race the 2 dogs and cat up and down the road with children on their backs ! The neibours put bets on and come out to cheer them on! And if one of the dogs breaks a leg I will shoot it! X" Well that’s a bit silly , so you happily support breeding of animals in poor conditions often with long term health issues as long as people don’t race them. If your going in on the animal welfare debate can’t be half in half out. | |||
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"Should be banned from owning pets that is such pets like puppy farmed dogs and extotic animals taken form the wild all supporting money making industries with poor animal welfare just because there not used in sport or working animals don’t make it right Hmm!often race the 2 dogs and cat up and down the road with children on their backs ! The neibours put bets on and come out to cheer them on! And if one of the dogs breaks a leg I will shoot it! X Well that’s a bit silly , so you happily support breeding of animals in poor conditions often with long term health issues as long as people don’t race them. If your going in on the animal welfare debate can’t be half in half out. " No I absoulutly don't my dogs are rescue! One of which some filthy humans were using as a bait dog! Would never use a puppy farm! X | |||
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"Should be banned from owning pets that is such pets like puppy farmed dogs and extotic animals taken form the wild all supporting money making industries with poor animal welfare just because there not used in sport or working animals don’t make it right " Your right. Shitholes running Puppy farms, wildlife crimes should be doing time | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April?" After the IRA bomb threat years ago, I will watch it on TV. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? After the IRA bomb threat years ago, I will watch it on TV." The one good thing about that was the race was halted in the day. Shame they didnt make it a regular threat.... in jest obviously, but it did a good thing | |||
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"Not sure anyone wants bombs at an event attended by 60,000 people. If anyone is going and fancies a drink and a laugh please message me." I didnt say put them there, but making the threat stopped the racing for that day, so maybe a threat to every course every day would finally eradicate the barbarity | |||
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"Not sure anyone wants bombs at an event attended by 60,000 people. If anyone is going and fancies a drink and a laugh please message me." Not if there's a bomb threat. On a serious note it is supporting animal cruelty | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? After the IRA bomb threat years ago, I will watch it on TV." It wasn't a bomb threat issued by the IRA. It was issued by an Anti-horse racing English person, to which I have to say were absolutely successful in what they wanted to achieve. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? After the IRA bomb threat years ago, I will watch it on TV. It wasn't a bomb threat issued by the IRA. It was issued by an Anti-horse racing English person, to which I have to say were absolutely successful in what they wanted to achieve. " Was it a good thing they did? | |||
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"Anything (within reason) that fucks up an animal cruelty event is good to me! "I totally agree | |||
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"Stick all your money on V-neck. It's a great jumper. " I totally disagree with Horse Racing...this though made me laugh | |||
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"Stick all your money on V-neck. It's a great jumper. I totally disagree with Horse Racing...this though made me laugh "Well if I at least made one person laugh, then my work is done. | |||
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"Stick all your money on V-neck. It's a great jumper. I totally disagree with Horse Racing...this though made me laugh
Well if I at least made one person laugh, then my work is done. "Ohh yes it did....this is a very emotive subject that I feel real passion for...So I say Nice one and thanks  | |||
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"Let's all play nicely folks, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm looking forward to a day and night out in Liverpool, great city." Wooaahh there. Behave! | |||
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"Let's all play nicely folks, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm looking forward to a day and night out in Liverpool, great city. Wooaahh there. Behave! "No chance! having checked out the 189 photos on the Daily Mail app it looks like ladies day has been lively | |||
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"And have a great day out OP, Ive owned race horses in the past and believe me those horses are very very well looked after, even after their time as a race horse" thank you very much looking forward to it, one of those events I've always wanted to attend. | |||
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"And have a great day out OP, Ive owned race horses in the past and believe me those horses are very very well looked after, even after their time as a race horse" Fumniest thing ive heard in a long time | |||
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"And have a great day out OP, Ive owned race horses in the past and believe me those horses are very very well looked after, even after their time as a race horse" The comments made here are not whether those Race Horses are kept well or even very well....it's about the sport itself and at what cost to the Thoroughbred and the Horses health, how it suffers to satisfy the need of some humans!! | |||
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"And have a great day out OP, Ive owned race horses in the past and believe me those horses are very very well looked after, even after their time as a race horse Fumniest thing ive heard in a long time" | |||
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"This could go on for ever, but same principle applies to athletes but we all watch sport Im out of here as have better things to do "Athletes have a choice., Horses are forced Plus if as many Humans died as horses each year there'd be an inquiry at least | |||
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"This could go on for ever, but same principle applies to athletes but we all watch sport Im out of here as have better things to do
Athletes have a choice., Horses are forced
Plus if as many Humans died as horses each year there'd be an inquiry at least"I get the same thrown at me as i watch motorbike racing... oooh bike racers get killed etc etc. Yes, those guys have a choice to do what they do | |||
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"This could go on for ever, but same principle applies to athletes but we all watch sport Im out of here as have better things to do
Athletes have a choice., Horses are forced
Plus if as many Humans died as horses each year there'd be an inquiry at least"Exactly! People just try to justify their backing cruelty! X | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April?" . I am at work today but as I finish at 5.00 I will be straight over the betting shop to watch the Grand National as far as I am concerned it’s the race that stops the UK nation. I have had £5 each way on Delta Work and & £3 each way on Good Boy Bobby enjoy your day mate. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April?" No it's barbaric and wrong! | |||
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"This could go on for ever, but same principle applies to athletes but we all watch sport Im out of here as have better things to do
Athletes have a choice., Horses are forced
Plus if as many Humans died as horses each year there'd be an inquiry at least
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"So... 2 horses killed at these crap events alone. This has to end " I totally agree...it's Disgusting one today from a suspected Heart attack right in front of the main stand and one yesterday from a injury and had to be shot. | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing I'm shuddering at the thought! Wonder how many will die? All in the name of "sport" "Im the same. Ive fallen out with the wifes family over their love of this barbaric "sport". Wont even sit in the lounge of the in laws when i visit as racing always on tv | |||
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"Anyone planning to be at Aintree on 9th April? Yes, in protest its still allowed to happen, along with any other form of horse racing I'm shuddering at the thought! Wonder how many will die? All in the name of "sport"
Im the same. Ive fallen out with the wifes family over their love of this barbaric "sport". Wont even sit in the lounge of the in laws when i visit as racing always on tv"It is barbaric your right...4 horses died this year during the 3 day of racing at Aintree | |||
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