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"I’m for this tbh. Saves it becoming a Sausage fest. Making it uncomfortable for everyone else. When I go it’s as a couple even if I’m just chaperoning a new girl. Last think I want is to take a nervous person and she gets bombarded by guys. Unless it’s a greedy girl night. " Its sounds like you think you are better than the other single men who in the clubs ? Charging more dose not mean you get a more respectful man and it clubs charge more dose that mean clubs are only for the well off ? | |||
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"I’m for this tbh. Saves it becoming a Sausage fest. Making it uncomfortable for everyone else. When I go it’s as a couple even if I’m just chaperoning a new girl. Last think I want is to take a nervous person and she gets bombarded by guys. Unless it’s a greedy girl night. Its sounds like you think you are better than the other single men who in the clubs ? Charging more dose not mean you get a more respectful man and it clubs charge more dose that mean clubs are only for the well off ?" Unfortunately, swinging is not a cheap hobby. And, in my opinion, it is about supply and demand. Clubs know that men are much more likely to visit than single ladies, therefore they have to find ways of stopping the clubs becoming sausage fests. One way is charging single guys more than single ladies. However, there is nothing forcing you to go to that particular club. | |||
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"dose that mean clubs are only for the well off ?" As someone said on your original thread... welcome to a capitalist society. No one owes you affordability. I want to holiday in over sea villas in the Maldives, I can't afford them, should I start complaining about how they are only for the wealthy?! Contrary to what people on fab seem to believe, swingers clubs and events don't make huge amounts of money, people run them because they enjoy them, they want to give something back to the community etc... maybe some of the bigger/more established clubs can provide an income for a couple but it is much more rare than you would think. I have been to clubs where men are charged more, and been to ones where they haven't... (and also where numbers of single men are limited)... I, personally, have found less hassle and problems with single men at clubs where its a limited number of men *and* they pay more. | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. " It is what it is. You don’t have to go. | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. " You’re not paying for sex though. You’re paying for the facilities and the opportunities to meet people who are potentially interested in the same things as you. | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. " And yet the only people I ever see complaining are... single men. Most places charge a separate price for specific bi events, and there are places like the saunas in Manchester or SaunaSauna in Northwich that are specifically men only for men looking to meet men... | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up . " Where are these clubs with free entry? | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. " The club owners have chosen what must be the most effective business strategy. Single men will pay a lit to meet couples/girls, so they subsidise the club. The much smaller pool of girls is the product the club us selling rather than the purchaser. It’s sh*t, but that’s how the clubs make money. That’s for nights when single guys are allowed. The economics firm couples-only nights are different. Or some clubs do charge couples more, but limit the numbers of single guys. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up . Where are these clubs with free entry?" Bars effectively run as swingers clubs abound in the Canary islands. One just wanders in, bus a drink and 'mingles', if that is what one wants to call it. | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. " Don’t go then. why start another thread to get the same answers? | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. Don’t go then. why start another thread to get the same answers?" Restarted it because it was so popular. | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. And yet the only people I ever see complaining are... single men. Most places charge a separate price for specific bi events, and there are places like the saunas in Manchester or SaunaSauna in Northwich that are specifically men only for men looking to meet men..." This is not true if you read thought the 1st post. | |||
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"Not quite sure the point in continuing the argument. A lot seem to think it’s just good business practice while the counter argument is it’s not fair. What in life is fair? Seems perfectly fair to me that you know the price in advance, you also know what all other categories are paying it’s not like it’s being hidden. And so everyone gets to make a choice on whether it’s worth it for them. Kind of seems about as fair as life gets for me!" this is not an argument but a debate. | |||
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"Not quite sure the point in continuing the argument. A lot seem to think it’s just good business practice while the counter argument is it’s not fair. What in life is fair? Seems perfectly fair to me that you know the price in advance, you also know what all other categories are paying it’s not like it’s being hidden. And so everyone gets to make a choice on whether it’s worth it for them. Kind of seems about as fair as life gets for me!this is not an argument but a debate." So genuine question, would you be happier if everyone paid the same as men currently pay and this led to fewer women and couples attending? Obviously there’s no guarantee that would happen but you’d be happier if it did but everyone paid the same? | |||
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"Not quite sure the point in continuing the argument. A lot seem to think it’s just good business practice while the counter argument is it’s not fair. What in life is fair? Seems perfectly fair to me that you know the price in advance, you also know what all other categories are paying it’s not like it’s being hidden. And so everyone gets to make a choice on whether it’s worth it for them. Kind of seems about as fair as life gets for me!this is not an argument but a debate. So genuine question, would you be happier if everyone paid the same as men currently pay and this led to fewer women and couples attending? Obviously there’s no guarantee that would happen but you’d be happier if it did but everyone paid the same?" The point of the post is to find out people's views ? ( THIS NEXT COMENT IS A JOKE ). What if all people paid on the way out and paid what they thought the experience was worth ? | |||
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"It’s almost like you’re trying to find something to complain about. " Sorry but that's not true at all. | |||
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"Not quite sure the point in continuing the argument. A lot seem to think it’s just good business practice while the counter argument is it’s not fair. What in life is fair? Seems perfectly fair to me that you know the price in advance, you also know what all other categories are paying it’s not like it’s being hidden. And so everyone gets to make a choice on whether it’s worth it for them. Kind of seems about as fair as life gets for me!this is not an argument but a debate. So genuine question, would you be happier if everyone paid the same as men currently pay and this led to fewer women and couples attending? Obviously there’s no guarantee that would happen but you’d be happier if it did but everyone paid the same? The point of the post is to find out people's views ? ( THIS NEXT COMENT IS A JOKE ). What if all people paid on the way out and paid what they thought the experience was worth ? " The club wouldn’t last long | |||
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"Not quite sure the point in continuing the argument. A lot seem to think it’s just good business practice while the counter argument is it’s not fair. What in life is fair? Seems perfectly fair to me that you know the price in advance, you also know what all other categories are paying it’s not like it’s being hidden. And so everyone gets to make a choice on whether it’s worth it for them. Kind of seems about as fair as life gets for me!this is not an argument but a debate. So genuine question, would you be happier if everyone paid the same as men currently pay and this led to fewer women and couples attending? Obviously there’s no guarantee that would happen but you’d be happier if it did but everyone paid the same? The point of the post is to find out people's views ? ( THIS NEXT COMENT IS A JOKE ). What if all people paid on the way out and paid what they thought the experience was worth ? The club wouldn’t last long " But maybe it would if they went the extra mile as in the 1st post a lot of clubs hot a bad rap. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up . " Yes. Every time there are too many single men at a club they are a nuisance. High prices are one easy way of keeping the pests out. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up . Except wealthy pests! Yes. Every time there are too many single men at a club they are a nuisance. High prices are one easy way of keeping the pests out." | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up . Except wealthy pests! Yes. Every time there are too many single men at a club they are a nuisance. High prices are one easy way of keeping the pests out." Sounds like you don't like competition? | |||
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". And yet the only people I ever see complaining are... single men. " Of course it is, because it's them that are affected. I don't agree with the premise but as others have said, it's a capitalist market. If those females were not encouraged there and it was just blokes, would you still go? I'm going to guess no. Its exactly the same as normal clubs where single ladies walk past the queue and into the club free. The guys now know that there are a load of girls in there and want to be there even more. | |||
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"OP keeping a topic going until someone agrees with you is uncool " Ok x | |||
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"OP keeping a topic going until someone agrees with you is uncool Ok x" If you put up the prices… which is exactly what the clubs would do… less couples would go, less single women would go So bearing that in mind… would you go to this mythical club ( let’s call it utopia for the time being) which would give you less choice? I mean.. principals are principals but you are not paying those principled prices if it is all men…… The problem isn’t that the prices are stopping you from going (and if I were to compare it to a night out in a city centre at the weekends, you might actually spend less money going to a club!) Anyway as I was about to say, the problem isn’t the prices.. but the prices are making you make decisions, and you can’t potentially go to a club as much as you would possibly like to…. | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. " As it’s been said, you’re not paying for sex. It’s not a brothel. It’s supply and demand I’m afraid. However, don’t look at it as men paying more. Look at as couples getting a medium discount to attract them to a place where lots of guys will be because there aren’t that many couples who actually want to go (relative to guys). And think of women getting a 100% discount to attract them for the same reason but to an even greater extent. Or to put it another way, if you charged women, couples and guys the same, only guys would go in any significant numbers, so in your terms, no one would have any sex at all. It has absolutely nothing to do with equality or sexism. It is purely a supply and demand scenario. If they made it free for all, and limited the number of guys, then the club wouldn’t exist. | |||
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"If a woman goes to a club to meet a woman great free sex but there are many man go to meet men as well so expensive sex surly that's not fair? Also as for charging more to put single guys off that again is unfair to single women or couples who are looking for single guys as there's less choice and the same goes for limiting numbers. You’re not paying for sex though. *You’re paying for the facilities and the opportunities to meet people who are potentially interested in the same things as you. *" * If that was true, everyone would be paying the same price. Unless single men also get access to a magical golden room with free champagne and Pringles. | |||
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