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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples? Lot of assumptions in there bro. Assume usually makes an ass out of you me" Well the assumptions are by the couples not me, so I'll probably still manage to sleep at night. Thanks for the input. | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. " Are there degrees of biness | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. " I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue. | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue." It’s their preference why be curious? | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. Are there degrees of biness " Yes,Top middle or bottom | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue. It’s their preference why be curious?" Explain the preference to me then... The preference is they don't want a cock that has been in another guys mouth or arse. Why? Because they assume that means the guy has more chance of having STDs. Ergo it's not a preference, it's a prejudice, because God knows there will be enough straight guys on this site who have enough Chlamydia to take down a city. But that's ok. Because it came from a straight guy lol | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. " This is bang on. Some men will cling onto the straight and bi curious tick box for a long time before they move onto bi so being Liberal with the truth on this one isn't always a game plan to make themselves fit what a couple are looking for but some will to increase their chances.....even with all the threads on this alot of single males are still baffled why they can't get a meet.....2 years without a meet for one guy, i mean.... that actually takes some doing to achieve that feat. It shows persistence (albeit without changing strategy)on such a level that I would have thought that alone would have got him a meet at some point as facing 2 years of striking out is brutal.....id of lasted 2 weeks before being back on tinder | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. This is bang on. Some men will cling onto the straight and bi curious tick box for a long time before they move onto bi so being Liberal with the truth on this one isn't always a game plan to make themselves fit what a couple are looking for but some will to increase their chances.....even with all the threads on this alot of single males are still baffled why they can't get a meet.....2 years without a meet for one guy, i mean.... that actually takes some doing to achieve that feat. It shows persistence (albeit without changing strategy)on such a level that I would have thought that alone would have got him a meet at some point as facing 2 years of striking out is brutal.....id of lasted 2 weeks before being back on tinder " Completely missed the point of the post. Good effort. | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue. It’s their preference why be curious? Explain the preference to me then... The preference is they don't want a cock that has been in another guys mouth or arse. Why? Because they assume that means the guy has more chance of having STDs. Ergo it's not a preference, it's a prejudice, because God knows there will be enough straight guys on this site who have enough Chlamydia to take down a city. But that's ok. Because it came from a straight guy lol" I cant believe this takes up more than a nanosecond of someone's thinking when they are on the site. Why no bi, why only straight....who the fuck cares and its a question you'll never get a definitive answer unless you can climb inside that specific individuals head that said it, and even if you could the information is useless | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. This is bang on. Some men will cling onto the straight and bi curious tick box for a long time before they move onto bi so being Liberal with the truth on this one isn't always a game plan to make themselves fit what a couple are looking for but some will to increase their chances.....even with all the threads on this alot of single males are still baffled why they can't get a meet.....2 years without a meet for one guy, i mean.... that actually takes some doing to achieve that feat. It shows persistence (albeit without changing strategy)on such a level that I would have thought that alone would have got him a meet at some point as facing 2 years of striking out is brutal.....id of lasted 2 weeks before being back on tinder Completely missed the point of the post. Good effort." You have a point, I do tend to go way off track after first sentence | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue. It’s their preference why be curious?" Because its illogical | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue. It’s their preference why be curious? Because its illogical " Captain? | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. " Omg you have no idea about that , even as a single guy straight men would suggest a meet lol | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" Its just their choice..why question peoples choices on here. | |||
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"Tbh...thats just like saying on your profile would prefer a slimmer lady...why? Curvy ladies have exactly the same as a slimmer one and you can do what you would do to a slimmer one on someone that has a bit more curves....I'm not saying thats what's on your profile..the point is..nobody should have to explain themselves to anyone when it comes to preferences or what they are into." I am sorry but compare the fact that someone like a particular body shape doesn't relate to whether a man is straight or bi as he still looks and act the same. | |||
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"The OP has asked why couples want a mmf play, but the don't want a bi man...its preference.. that was my point.." Yes but a slim person of one with lot of curves look different and that is a choice , but like op say what is it that makes couple say no to bi guy as if you lined up a load of guys just by looking at them you can't tell if they are straight , bi or gay. | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" We won’t meet bi men simply because they belong to a higher HIV risk group. It’s as simple as that. | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" Of corse it’s a preference | |||
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"Loving the HIV comment. Bi and gay men often look after themselves much better then straight males. On PrEp, have regular testing. How many straight men have sexual health testing regularly? Women can also have HIV, interesting, very interesting.... " Love this comment! I could not of put it better myself. We get tested every 3 months. If we've played or not. Even through lock down and there was no play. We teasted, next due end of Dec. | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" Aren't your 2 points a good enough reason? They don't want to meet a man who has sex with men. | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" Do preferences have to be logical? | |||
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"What's your rationale behind not meeting smokers? Is it logical? Do you think they're going to force you to smoke? Do you think all smokers are smelly? " | |||
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"Everyone shouting "it's a preference". Sure but it's one which you might reasonably suspect is based on prejudice a lot of the time. And bisexual women don't encounter the same issues. But at least people are making it really clear when they have it on their profiles so you don't waste your time with them. You can't change other people. " Oi! Stop suggesting sensible stuff. | |||
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"Everyone shouting "it's a preference". Sure but it's one which you might reasonably suspect is based on prejudice a lot of the time. And bisexual women don't encounter the same issues. But at least people are making it really clear when they have it on their profiles so you don't waste your time with them. You can't change other people. Oi! Stop suggesting sensible stuff. " Soz, soze | |||
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"Way I see it as a bi man, they're not looking for me and I'm making no apologies for who I am so nobody is missing out. I'd only ever want to meet people where whatever happened was mutually enjoyable " Well said. No matter the reason for a preference, its a choice and why would you want sex with someone who chooses not to want sex with you ? Whether the reason is aesthetic, a phobia, an "ism", or any other factor makes no difference. They don't want you, so unless you want to lie or force them....? As for bi men, some women love them and some I have spoken to find their sexuality less masculine. Agree or disagree its their perception. Their choice. Find the ones that like bi men. Simples | |||
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"Way I see it as a bi man, they're not looking for me and I'm making no apologies for who I am so nobody is missing out. I'd only ever want to meet people where whatever happened was mutually enjoyable Well said. No matter the reason for a preference, its a choice and why would you want sex with someone who chooses not to want sex with you ? Whether the reason is aesthetic, a phobia, an "ism", or any other factor makes no difference. They don't want you, so unless you want to lie or force them....? As for bi men, some women love them and some I have spoken to find their sexuality less masculine. Agree or disagree its their perception. Their choice. Find the ones that like bi men. Simples " So you don't think people should be challenged when their "choice" is based on prejudice? That's the exact reason why racism, sexism, homophobia etc. will always exist, because people are happy to say "it's just someone's choice or preference, just move on". I've never encountered a couple saying no to me because I'm bi, mainly because I know anyone who puts that on their profile is ignorant and therefore I wouldn't get on with them anyway. My point is that it's a shame that it is 2021 we are still happy to just accept these "preferences". | |||
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"We'll join in on this to state our case. We don't play with bi men and it's simply a case of prejudice however, the prejudice isn't our own and is slightly enforced. One of us is a blood donor and one of the questions on the form asks about whether or not you've had sexual contact with another man who has engaged in sexual contact with another man. It automatically rules you out (unless they've had the same male sexual partner for 3 months but that is far too personal to be asking of someone who you might only meet once)! Don't fully agree with it. Both us have had partners who are bisexual in the past and if it wasn't for the blood donor element it wouldn't be an issue. We trust people to be honest that they are straight when we approach them or they approach us. If we stop donating blood then it opens up another door but it isn't a reason to stop donating." Thanks for your honest answer. | |||
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"Way I see it as a bi man, they're not looking for me and I'm making no apologies for who I am so nobody is missing out. I'd only ever want to meet people where whatever happened was mutually enjoyable Well said. No matter the reason for a preference, its a choice and why would you want sex with someone who chooses not to want sex with you ? Whether the reason is aesthetic, a phobia, an "ism", or any other factor makes no difference. They don't want you, so unless you want to lie or force them....? As for bi men, some women love them and some I have spoken to find their sexuality less masculine. Agree or disagree its their perception. Their choice. Find the ones that like bi men. Simples So you don't think people should be challenged when their "choice" is based on prejudice? That's the exact reason why racism, sexism, homophobia etc. will always exist, because people are happy to say "it's just someone's choice or preference, just move on". I've never encountered a couple saying no to me because I'm bi, mainly because I know anyone who puts that on their profile is ignorant and therefore I wouldn't get on with them anyway. My point is that it's a shame that it is 2021 we are still happy to just accept these "preferences". " Challenging never seems to work as well as awareness and education for any phobia or ism. Drip drip drip... | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" Maybe bi men just make them uncomfortable, your only bothered cos it excludes you. How entitled are you to disregard how someone else feels about one of the most Intimate of encounters in life just so you can get a shag. Personally I find it ridiculous that people don’t want to have sex with bald slightly overweight middle aged men I mean it just defies logic. | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples? Maybe bi men just make them uncomfortable, your only bothered cos it excludes you. How entitled are you to disregard how someone else feels about one of the most Intimate of encounters in life just so you can get a shag. Personally I find it ridiculous that people don’t want to have sex with bald slightly overweight middle aged men I mean it just defies logic. " Ha ha well said that man totally agree who cares why ,, just look for people with similar interests move on | |||
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" Are there degrees of biness " There are many degrees of bisexuality, from simple curiosity to full blown (excuse the pun) sex. I class myself as bisexual, but I do not fancy men in the way I would fancy a woman. It is purely a sex thing. On a bisexual scale of one to ten I'd say I was a seven. In my opinion, a man who wants to have a sexual liaison with his female partner and another man has to be somewhere on the scale, even if it's only a one. I've had quite a few mmf meets where the man claimed to be straight, but I ultimately enjoyed being sucked by him. | |||
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"Way I see it as a bi man, they're not looking for me and I'm making no apologies for who I am so nobody is missing out. I'd only ever want to meet people where whatever happened was mutually enjoyable Well said. No matter the reason for a preference, its a choice and why would you want sex with someone who chooses not to want sex with you ? Whether the reason is aesthetic, a phobia, an "ism", or any other factor makes no difference. They don't want you, so unless you want to lie or force them....? As for bi men, some women love them and some I have spoken to find their sexuality less masculine. Agree or disagree its their perception. Their choice. Find the ones that like bi men. Simples So you don't think people should be challenged when their "choice" is based on prejudice? That's the exact reason why racism, sexism, homophobia etc. will always exist, because people are happy to say "it's just someone's choice or preference, just move on". I've never encountered a couple saying no to me because I'm bi, mainly because I know anyone who puts that on their profile is ignorant and therefore I wouldn't get on with them anyway. My point is that it's a shame that it is 2021 we are still happy to just accept these "preferences". " Ok so let's say I'm a massively racist homophobe. I won't fuck bisexual men of X race. What are you going to do about it? Force me to fuck them? | |||
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"Way I see it as a bi man, they're not looking for me and I'm making no apologies for who I am so nobody is missing out. I'd only ever want to meet people where whatever happened was mutually enjoyable Well said. No matter the reason for a preference, its a choice and why would you want sex with someone who chooses not to want sex with you ? Whether the reason is aesthetic, a phobia, an "ism", or any other factor makes no difference. They don't want you, so unless you want to lie or force them....? As for bi men, some women love them and some I have spoken to find their sexuality less masculine. Agree or disagree its their perception. Their choice. Find the ones that like bi men. Simples So you don't think people should be challenged when their "choice" is based on prejudice? That's the exact reason why racism, sexism, homophobia etc. will always exist, because people are happy to say "it's just someone's choice or preference, just move on". I've never encountered a couple saying no to me because I'm bi, mainly because I know anyone who puts that on their profile is ignorant and therefore I wouldn't get on with them anyway. My point is that it's a shame that it is 2021 we are still happy to just accept these "preferences". Challenging never seems to work as well as awareness and education for any phobia or ism. Drip drip drip..." I encounter people who don't like bald men. Do they hate us. No, they just don't find us sexy. Should they be challenged over who they find attractive ? No. If they castigate for sexuality or other factors then yes. But if they simply won't fuck me, or a bi guy, they can exercise that right. And express it on their profiles. Its freedom of choice and speech. | |||
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"Tbh OP ... There's threads from the past, where couples have asked for Bi men to be honest on their profiles and show they are just that. Have a forum search - see if any suit you! Depends how far you'll travel and if your desires match. " I didn't start this thread because I'm after a shag from a couple. I was curious about why couples specifically state no bi men on their profile when a bi guy is fully capable of straight sexual encounters | |||
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"Tbh OP ... There's threads from the past, where couples have asked for Bi men to be honest on their profiles and show they are just that. Have a forum search - see if any suit you! Depends how far you'll travel and if your desires match. I didn't start this thread because I'm after a shag from a couple. I was curious about why couples specifically state no bi men on their profile when a bi guy is fully capable of straight sexual encounters " They're low IQ buddy, it's not their fault. They struggle with simple concepts. | |||
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"Well it's been said, asked time and time again - in fact many moons ago I asked a member myself on a thread - unfortunately I rattled the wrong one and the rest is history....... Have a ickle search anyway, maybe those bi cpls could shed some light onto it in PRIVATE!" Ah ok so you're annoyed there's another thread on this subject, apologies for the inconvenience it has caused you. There is also the option to just ignore the thread and get on with your life, or perhaps you could go and find some other threads that you aren't interested in and give them your pearls of wisdom too. | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" I find your post more than a little arrogant. Saying it is a preference is an answer, not that anyone should feel a need to answer you and explain their preferences. Having said that, we do play with bi men providing they agree to play totally straight (both our preference). However this has been spoiled on several occasions precisely by guys who can't "contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple". Play stops there immediately as it's a massive turn off for both of us. Perhaps you should have a word with these bi guys and warn them they're spoiling the chances for the rest. | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples? I find your post more than a little arrogant. Saying it is a preference is an answer, not that anyone should feel a need to answer you and explain their preferences. Having said that, we do play with bi men providing they agree to play totally straight (both our preference). However this has been spoiled on several occasions precisely by guys who can't "contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple". Play stops there immediately as it's a massive turn off for both of us. Perhaps you should have a word with these bi guys and warn them they're spoiling the chances for the rest." I'll have a word with them for you lol. Thanks for being honest about the bad experiences, can see why that would potentially put someone off. My original question came purely from me not being able to see how it would not be grounded in prejudice, but bad experiences and people like the couple who donate blood (which is an NHS prejudice not theirs) have shown me there are other angles to this on the odd occasion. | |||
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"Well it's been said, asked time and time again - in fact many moons ago I asked a member myself on a thread - unfortunately I rattled the wrong one and the rest is history....... Have a ickle search anyway, maybe those bi cpls could shed some light onto it in PRIVATE! Ah ok so you're annoyed there's another thread on this subject, apologies for the inconvenience it has caused you. There is also the option to just ignore the thread and get on with your life, or perhaps you could go and find some other threads that you aren't interested in and give them your pearls of wisdom too. " Wow your a snappy one hahah I see the whole aspect of it has got you going, that you can't even fathom who's on your side or not.... Some people don't want to discuss things so personal on a public forum - that the suggestion was made by myself to ask in private... You must of asked those who refuse to meet you because of being Bi, why don't you ask those who will meet you why the others won't....it was a fair insight...thanks for your input ... | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue. It’s their preference why be curious? Explain the preference to me then... The preference is they don't want a cock that has been in another guys mouth or arse. Why? Because they assume that means the guy has more chance of having STDs. Ergo it's not a preference, it's a prejudice, because God knows there will be enough straight guys on this site who have enough Chlamydia to take down a city. But that's ok. Because it came from a straight guy lol" Do you have statistics to prove your city wide assumptions on chlamydia? | |||
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"Well it's been said, asked time and time again - in fact many moons ago I asked a member myself on a thread - unfortunately I rattled the wrong one and the rest is history....... Have a ickle search anyway, maybe those bi cpls could shed some light onto it in PRIVATE! Ah ok so you're annoyed there's another thread on this subject, apologies for the inconvenience it has caused you. There is also the option to just ignore the thread and get on with your life, or perhaps you could go and find some other threads that you aren't interested in and give them your pearls of wisdom too. Wow your a snappy one hahah I see the whole aspect of it has got you going, that you can't even fathom who's on your side or not.... Some people don't want to discuss things so personal on a public forum - that the suggestion was made by myself to ask in private... You must of asked those who refuse to meet you because of being Bi, why don't you ask those who will meet you why the others won't....it was a fair insight...thanks for your input ..." Nobody has ever refused to meet me because I'm bi, that's not why I started the thread at all. I asked the question because I've seen it stated on couples profiles and I wondered why it was justified. I have to ask the question in a public forum or else there is no way to ever get any answers is there. | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. I think the point is that couples shouldn't feel the need to turn down men because they are bi, I don't get why it bothers them, hence my curiosity on the issue. It’s their preference why be curious? Explain the preference to me then... The preference is they don't want a cock that has been in another guys mouth or arse. Why? Because they assume that means the guy has more chance of having STDs. Ergo it's not a preference, it's a prejudice, because God knows there will be enough straight guys on this site who have enough Chlamydia to take down a city. But that's ok. Because it came from a straight guy lol Do you have statistics to prove your city wide assumptions on chlamydia?" According to most people on this thread I don't need to provide any real evidence to back up any statements I make, it's what I believe and should just take that and move on lol | |||
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"Well it's been said, asked time and time again - in fact many moons ago I asked a member myself on a thread - unfortunately I rattled the wrong one and the rest is history....... Have a ickle search anyway, maybe those bi cpls could shed some light onto it in PRIVATE! Ah ok so you're annoyed there's another thread on this subject, apologies for the inconvenience it has caused you. There is also the option to just ignore the thread and get on with your life, or perhaps you could go and find some other threads that you aren't interested in and give them your pearls of wisdom too. Wow your a snappy one hahah I see the whole aspect of it has got you going, that you can't even fathom who's on your side or not.... Some people don't want to discuss things so personal on a public forum - that the suggestion was made by myself to ask in private... You must of asked those who refuse to meet you because of being Bi, why don't you ask those who will meet you why the others won't....it was a fair insight...thanks for your input ... Nobody has ever refused to meet me because I'm bi, that's not why I started the thread at all. I asked the question because I've seen it stated on couples profiles and I wondered why it was justified. I have to ask the question in a public forum or else there is no way to ever get any answers is there. " Probably the 2 reasons in your OP. People won't openly admit to being homophobic. Not wanting to meet someone they're not attracted to isn't homophobic though. Couples often meet people they are both happy with. | |||
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"We used to get pushed on this all the time as a couple. Some of the threads around the subject used to get quite spicy back in the day. The simple answer is she had her reasons for her preference and it was nobodies business but hers. Concentrating on the people that will meet you is a far more rewarding. " This, wasting time and energy on those who differ in their choices is just negative.. And the perpetual moaning about it can come across as whining or an overblown sense of entitlement.. Yours, an occasionally bi bloke albeit not for a while.. | |||
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"Well it's been said, asked time and time again - in fact many moons ago I asked a member myself on a thread - unfortunately I rattled the wrong one and the rest is history....... Have a ickle search anyway, maybe those bi cpls could shed some light onto it in PRIVATE! Ah ok so you're annoyed there's another thread on this subject, apologies for the inconvenience it has caused you. There is also the option to just ignore the thread and get on with your life, or perhaps you could go and find some other threads that you aren't interested in and give them your pearls of wisdom too. Wow your a snappy one hahah I see the whole aspect of it has got you going, that you can't even fathom who's on your side or not.... Some people don't want to discuss things so personal on a public forum - that the suggestion was made by myself to ask in private... You must of asked those who refuse to meet you because of being Bi, why don't you ask those who will meet you why the others won't....it was a fair insight...thanks for your input ... Nobody has ever refused to meet me because I'm bi, that's not why I started the thread at all. I asked the question because I've seen it stated on couples profiles and I wondered why it was justified. I have to ask the question in a public forum or else there is no way to ever get any answers is there. " No guarantee on a thread either...I'm mentally geared to cover all bases. Sorry I couldn't be of any help | |||
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"I’m straight, I don’t meet females. In the early days, I was talked into meeting a couple on the premise that they understood I was straight and the female would just watch. It wasn’t the case. She tried to touch me from the second we met. It was relentless. I now wouldn’t ever meet a couple again or even do anything with a female in the room. I’m sure lots have had similar experiences. " It's a shame that so many people have had experiences on here with others who don't respect the boundaries that were set before the meet up, just selfish of them really. | |||
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"I met a bi couple on fab, who had great verifications, and seemed lovely. We made it very clear it was a straight meet only and I had no intention of playing with the guy. They asked if I could 69 her and of course I agreed. When my sight was slightly obscured, the couple thought I couldn’t see that it was him sucking me off instead. Completely broke the trust and I left. There were clear boundaries that were broken non-consensually. " That is awful! | |||
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"I met a bi couple on fab, who had great verifications, and seemed lovely. We made it very clear it was a straight meet only and I had no intention of playing with the guy. They asked if I could 69 her and of course I agreed. When my sight was slightly obscured, the couple thought I couldn’t see that it was him sucking me off instead. Completely broke the trust and I left. There were clear boundaries that were broken non-consensually. " That's so awful, can't understand how people are so happy to do things like that and ignore what was agreed in the first place. Did it put you off meeting couples? | |||
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"So I've often wondered what the rationale is for couples who say that they want MMF threesomes but don't want bi men to join them. In my mind it has to be one of two things: 1. They assume bi men won't be able to contain themselves and will insist on trying to suck or fuck the straight male half of the couple even if they are fully aware that it's a "straight" threesome 2. They assume that bi men are way more promiscuous and more likely to have STDs because they play with me and women (in theory) Saying "it's a preference" is not an answer, because there is no logical reason for it to be a preference. You want a hot guy for a threesome, the fact he sometimes fancies men is irrelevant. Any insights from couples?" Since when did preferences have to be logical? Is love logical? | |||
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"Consent violation and ignoring boundaries is a daily occurrence via messaging let alone in person so I can understand couples erring on the side of caution. While there are clearly biases going on with some people and their attitude towards bi men its not always as simple and clear cut as that." Some really awful stories of consent violation. | |||
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"Wow so us couples are not allowed to choose who we play with and you have all the rights mmmmmm really" To be fair, that's not what he has said is it? He hasn't asked anyone to change their mind, just explain their mindset if they are happy to do so. If you're not happy to explain, then don't. Gbat | |||
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"Way I see it as a bi man, they're not looking for me and I'm making no apologies for who I am so nobody is missing out. I'd only ever want to meet people where whatever happened was mutually enjoyable Well said. No matter the reason for a preference, its a choice and why would you want sex with someone who chooses not to want sex with you ? Whether the reason is aesthetic, a phobia, an "ism", or any other factor makes no difference. They don't want you, so unless you want to lie or force them....? As for bi men, some women love them and some I have spoken to find their sexuality less masculine. Agree or disagree its their perception. Their choice. Find the ones that like bi men. Simples So you don't think people should be challenged when their "choice" is based on prejudice? That's the exact reason why racism, sexism, homophobia etc. will always exist, because people are happy to say "it's just someone's choice or preference, just move on". I've never encountered a couple saying no to me because I'm bi, mainly because I know anyone who puts that on their profile is ignorant and therefore I wouldn't get on with them anyway. My point is that it's a shame that it is 2021 we are still happy to just accept these "preferences". Ok so let's say I'm a massively racist homophobe. I won't fuck bisexual men of X race. What are you going to do about it? Force me to fuck them?" I've not seen that scenario in porn yet. | |||
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"Way I see it as a bi man, they're not looking for me and I'm making no apologies for who I am so nobody is missing out. I'd only ever want to meet people where whatever happened was mutually enjoyable Well said. No matter the reason for a preference, its a choice and why would you want sex with someone who chooses not to want sex with you ? Whether the reason is aesthetic, a phobia, an "ism", or any other factor makes no difference. They don't want you, so unless you want to lie or force them....? As for bi men, some women love them and some I have spoken to find their sexuality less masculine. Agree or disagree its their perception. Their choice. Find the ones that like bi men. Simples So you don't think people should be challenged when their "choice" is based on prejudice? That's the exact reason why racism, sexism, homophobia etc. will always exist, because people are happy to say "it's just someone's choice or preference, just move on". I've never encountered a couple saying no to me because I'm bi, mainly because I know anyone who puts that on their profile is ignorant and therefore I wouldn't get on with them anyway. My point is that it's a shame that it is 2021 we are still happy to just accept these "preferences". Ok so let's say I'm a massively racist homophobe. I won't fuck bisexual men of X race. What are you going to do about it? Force me to fuck them? I've not seen that scenario in porn yet. " | |||
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"What's your rationale behind not meeting smokers? Is it logical? Do you think they're going to force you to smoke? Do you think all smokers are smelly? " We avoid smokers wherever possible. It's a 99% guarentee of me ending up with thrush if they finger me. Then costs me £15 to sort it out. Bactria on their hands is what I put it down too. So logical to us. Happened too many times for us to ignore. | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. " ---- Well put and pretty true tbf | |||
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"Saying no bi men simply makes men lie to you. You still get bi men, just ones who are careful what they say to you. Say you love bi men and they’re more likely to admit they’re bi even if there their profile says straight m, then you can just turn them down if it bothers you so much. The amount of ‘no bi men’ profiles I see with veris from secretly bi men is laughable. ---- Well put and pretty true tbf " Another one to add to OP's list. Bi men lie about their sexuality to get a shag. Likely they would lie about anything to get a shag. Marital status. STI status. Etc etc | |||
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"What's your rationale behind not meeting smokers? Is it logical? Do you think they're going to force you to smoke? Do you think all smokers are smelly? " ----- Brilliant | |||
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" Are there degrees of biness There are many degrees of bisexuality, from simple curiosity to full blown (excuse the pun) sex. I class myself as bisexual, but I do not fancy men in the way I would fancy a woman. It is purely a sex thing. On a bisexual scale of one to ten I'd say I was a seven. In my opinion, a man who wants to have a sexual liaison with his female partner and another man has to be somewhere on the scale, even if it's only a one. I've had quite a few mmf meets where the man claimed to be straight, but I ultimately enjoyed being sucked by him." ----- Great Post/reasons/thought | |||
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