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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell "OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies. But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'? We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not? | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?"I’m sure the OP will answer you but this is a point I’ve discussed with white fwbs into Black guys and also with a couple of fbs of mine who are black and have a preference for white guys. And almost all of them put it solely down to the contrast in skin tone during sex is a big visual turn on. As it is for me when I meet my gorgeous black friends. It’s no more complicated than that in my view, no racist undertones to be found just simply a visual turn on and therefore preference. Hope this is useful | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell "My wife has talked about wanting to try, in relatively light hearted terms but don’t think she would ever let herself actually do it. For her it may be a case that the fantasy is enough. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
My wife has talked about wanting to try, in relatively light hearted terms but don’t think she would ever let herself actually do it. For her it may be a case that the fantasy is enough."This is exactly the kind of dehumanising nonsense that make it hard for me to understand this as being anything more than the racist, fetishisation of blackness. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
My wife has talked about wanting to try, in relatively light hearted terms but don’t think she would ever let herself actually do it. For her it may be a case that the fantasy is enough.
This is exactly the kind of dehumanising nonsense that make it hard for me to understand this as being anything more than the racist, fetishisation of blackness. "I quite understand you taking it that way as your prerogative. Given I know the woman quite well, I happen to disagree with your interpretation. She finds some men, John Barnes from when she was a girl, Anthony Joshua now, very attractive (i.e. she gets turned on by seeing them on TV, in print etc.). I’m sure when she has a fantasy it is about a specific person who happens to be black, rather than any notion of “a black guy”. She also has the same lust for Pacific Islanders for example. What that doesn’t mean is that she is interested in fucking just anyone who is “a type” just that a special guy who looks a specific way would turn her on in ways another guy wouldn’t. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
My wife has talked about wanting to try, in relatively light hearted terms but don’t think she would ever let herself actually do it. For her it may be a case that the fantasy is enough.
This is exactly the kind of dehumanising nonsense that make it hard for me to understand this as being anything more than the racist, fetishisation of blackness.
I quite understand you taking it that way as your prerogative. Given I know the woman quite well, I happen to disagree with your interpretation. She finds some men, John Barnes from when she was a girl, Anthony Joshua now, very attractive (i.e. she gets turned on by seeing them on TV, in print etc.). I’m sure when she has a fantasy it is about a specific person who happens to be black, rather than any notion of “a black guy”. She also has the same lust for Pacific Islanders for example. What that doesn’t mean is that she is interested in fucking just anyone who is “a type” just that a special guy who looks a specific way would turn her on in ways another guy wouldn’t."This is a world apart from your original post. There’s nothing in the above that I take issue with. However, your original post was a clumsy expression of the above. Thanks for explaining. Cheers TLT | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
My wife has talked about wanting to try, in relatively light hearted terms but don’t think she would ever let herself actually do it. For her it may be a case that the fantasy is enough.
This is exactly the kind of dehumanising nonsense that make it hard for me to understand this as being anything more than the racist, fetishisation of blackness.
I quite understand you taking it that way as your prerogative. Given I know the woman quite well, I happen to disagree with your interpretation. She finds some men, John Barnes from when she was a girl, Anthony Joshua now, very attractive (i.e. she gets turned on by seeing them on TV, in print etc.). I’m sure when she has a fantasy it is about a specific person who happens to be black, rather than any notion of “a black guy”. She also has the same lust for Pacific Islanders for example. What that doesn’t mean is that she is interested in fucking just anyone who is “a type” just that a special guy who looks a specific way would turn her on in ways another guy wouldn’t.
This is a world apart from your original post. There’s nothing in the above that I take issue with. However, your original post was a clumsy expression of the above.
Thanks for explaining.
Cheers
TLT "how was his original post clumsy ? He wants to see a Blackman with his wife he hasn’t used any of the usual stereotypical traits often we see on the forums when this subject pops up | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
My wife has talked about wanting to try, in relatively light hearted terms but don’t think she would ever let herself actually do it. For her it may be a case that the fantasy is enough.
This is exactly the kind of dehumanising nonsense that make it hard for me to understand this as being anything more than the racist, fetishisation of blackness.
I quite understand you taking it that way as your prerogative. Given I know the woman quite well, I happen to disagree with your interpretation. She finds some men, John Barnes from when she was a girl, Anthony Joshua now, very attractive (i.e. she gets turned on by seeing them on TV, in print etc.). I’m sure when she has a fantasy it is about a specific person who happens to be black, rather than any notion of “a black guy”. She also has the same lust for Pacific Islanders for example. What that doesn’t mean is that she is interested in fucking just anyone who is “a type” just that a special guy who looks a specific way would turn her on in ways another guy wouldn’t.
This is a world apart from your original post. There’s nothing in the above that I take issue with. However, your original post was a clumsy expression of the above.
Thanks for explaining.
Cheers
TLT how was his original post clumsy ? He wants to see a Blackman with his wife he hasn’t used any of the usual stereotypical traits often we see on the forums when this subject pops up "What are you talking about? | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?"I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card."And here’s mention of The card again! I didn’t get one 
Is it the same as a card for Jews when there’s antisemitism?
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card.
And here’s mention of The card again!
I didn’t get one
Is it the same as a card for Jews when there’s antisemitism?
So a black man expressing his distaste for the fetishisation of his colour in a public forum is “playing the race card” "Your context is completely of topic so there’s no comparison to be made. My point is, that it’s been made out to be racist…when we can all see it isn’t. I see you brushed over my comments regarding the black men who constantly message me fetishising themselves. | |||
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"wow, some people with real woke issues on this thread! This is a swingers site to discuss all kinds of behaviours; for goodness sake people; chill. The BBC thing is something exciting and unusual for many white or asian woman.It doesnt mean black men are superior or inferior; just different and different for white people who have no experience and different is exciting!" Exactly this. You’re entirely correct. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?"I don’t think that you can quantify what people like or don’t like sexually. I wouldn’t have sex with certain people because they don’t turn me on… doesn’t mean I’m anti whatever they may be. If you personally didn’t find TV’s, or BBW’s or hairy women sexually appealing does that mean that you are discriminating against them or would you shag anything? You can’t help what turns you on. Obviously some people’s dislike of certain groups isn’t solely based on sexual attractiveness and is based on other agendas | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card.
And here’s mention of The card again!
I didn’t get one
Is it the same as a card for Jews when there’s antisemitism?
So a black man expressing his distaste for the fetishisation of his colour in a public forum is “playing the race card”
Your context is completely of topic so there’s no comparison to be made. My point is, that it’s been made out to be racist…when we can all see it isn’t. I see you brushed over my comments regarding the black men who constantly message me fetishising themselves. "Someone 'fetishising' themselves is one thing, they are choosing to do it. Someone doing it 'to' them is not the same.. Plus, you say, 'it's been made out to be racist when we can all see it isn't ' I think the very fact there is a debate about it shows that not everyone thinks it isn't.  | |||
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"I think the point is if you as a white person somehow see the black guys any differently to any other guy out there then there has to be something in it. That something could be anything, both perceived positive or negative. The issue I have is that I often find some white guys into this set up are getting off on seeing their women become super slutty for the night and its as if taking a black guys cock makes here even more deviant, more slutty, more degraded. Think about that for a moment. Those guys don't think they're being racialist at all but its happening on a subconscious level. " Excellent point, well made. | |||
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"Fetishising or not fetishising, as long as the people involved are consenting adults, what the problem. I am into receiving verbal humiliation. I am Asian and I like some racist slurs to be part of the verbal humiliation play too. But both I and the people I am playing with know that it's just within the boundaries of kinky playtime. Outside of that, we respect each other. If someone's kink is not your kink, you are free to block that person and move on. I am surprised that I have to explain this on a swingers site." Fully agree | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card.
And here’s mention of The card again!
I didn’t get one
Is it the same as a card for Jews when there’s antisemitism?
So a black man expressing his distaste for the fetishisation of his colour in a public forum is “playing the race card”
Your context is completely of topic so there’s no comparison to be made. My point is, that it’s been made out to be racist…when we can all see it isn’t. I see you brushed over my comments regarding the black men who constantly message me fetishising themselves.
Someone 'fetishising' themselves is one thing, they are choosing to do it. Someone doing it 'to' them is not the same..
Plus, you say, 'it's been made out to be racist when we can all see it isn't ' I think the very fact there is a debate about it shows that not everyone thinks it isn't.
"What I’ve learned from fab….if you enjoy black men you’re racist. If you state you’re not attracted to black men you’re also racist. Enlightening. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card.
And here’s mention of The card again!
I didn’t get one
Is it the same as a card for Jews when there’s antisemitism?
So a black man expressing his distaste for the fetishisation of his colour in a public forum is “playing the race card”
Your context is completely of topic so there’s no comparison to be made. My point is, that it’s been made out to be racist…when we can all see it isn’t. I see you brushed over my comments regarding the black men who constantly message me fetishising themselves.
Someone 'fetishising' themselves is one thing, they are choosing to do it. Someone doing it 'to' them is not the same..
Plus, you say, 'it's been made out to be racist when we can all see it isn't ' I think the very fact there is a debate about it shows that not everyone thinks it isn't.
What I’ve learned from fab….if you enjoy black men you’re racist. If you state you’re not attracted to black men you’re also racist.
Enlightening. "Apparently everyone must be open to meet everyone. Having preferences is racist. | |||
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"Trust me, for the most part, most black guys don't mind taking part in this "race fetishism" at all, and relish in it. Its just a sexual preference ffs. All these woke white people trying to take offence on behalf of the black folk who don't even give a shit. " This 
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"Trust me, for the most part, most black guys don't mind taking part in this "race fetishism" at all, and relish in it. Its just a sexual preference ffs. All these woke white people trying to take offence on behalf of the black folk who don't even give a shit. This
It's just fun & sex! Don't read too much into it spread those legs let's fuck & be merry " | |||
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"Trust me, for the most part, most black guys don't mind taking part in this "race fetishism" at all, and relish in it. Its just a sexual preference ffs. All these woke white people trying to take offence on behalf of the black folk who don't even give a shit. This
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"Fetishising or not fetishising, as long as the people involved are consenting adults, what the problem. I am into receiving verbal humiliation. I am Asian and I like some racist slurs to be part of the verbal humiliation play too. But both I and the people I am playing with know that it's just within the boundaries of kinky playtime. Outside of that, we respect each other. If someone's kink is not your kink, you are free to block that person and move on. I am surprised that I have to explain this on a swingers site. Fully agree " Ah but if they accept this the argument goes away and after all thats what they want , another race argument xx | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card."..and here it is, the show stopper. Denouncing contributions by simply claiming the 'race card' is being played is something black people have had to deal with for decades..if they express an opinion about race which doesn't conform to the white narrative they're playing the race card. It's interesting you didn't highlight the fact the OP was playing the race card, since he introduced the subject of race in the first place. Black men are not a 'thing', those contacting you and 'expecting you to bow down to BBC' are crass individuals who are fetishising themselves because they have a warped belief that their blackness should have some traction with white people, but they don't represent black men as a group, most of whom are just normal people like you & me. | |||
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"The skin contrast makes it a fantasy for us "That's what I love too  | |||
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"I think people are allowed to have preferences. Thing about threads like this, the intention is to connect people with similar likes. No need to come here to express your dislike... Go find a thread that is of interest to you. The fact that you feel you need to express your dislike on a thread about people who like something, I believe reveals a lot about yourself. (its normal starts with some corny joke about the tv station). but hey, it is a free country. " Yes I totally agree with this. If you don’t like the thread or have no interest in it, pass on by without commenting and find one you do like. Otherwise you’re just looking for an argument. | |||
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"I think people are allowed to have preferences. Thing about threads like this, the intention is to connect people with similar likes. No need to come here to express your dislike... Go find a thread that is of interest to you. The fact that you feel you need to express your dislike on a thread about people who like something, I believe reveals a lot about yourself. (its normal starts with some corny joke about the tv station). but hey, it is a free country. " | |||
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"I think people are allowed to have preferences. Thing about threads like this, the intention is to connect people with similar likes. No need to come here to express your dislike... Go find a thread that is of interest to you. The fact that you feel you need to express your dislike on a thread about people who like something, I believe reveals a lot about yourself. (its normal starts with some corny joke about the tv station). but hey, it is a free country. " I posted on this thread a few days ago - interesting how much traction the OP's post has achieved. Indeed, that's precisely what a forum is for, along with the reason you give. My original post was about education - 'de-woking', if you like. That's a legitimate reason to engage with the post that on the face of it, I take issue with the subject of. At the end of the day, it's a discussion forum, it's not for you or anyone else for that matter to suggest people shouldn't voice an opinion on a given thread. As for the BBC thing ..black people can roll with it, if they want, I don't have a problem with that at all. People can also have preferences - if those preferences are the racist fetishisation of blackness, so be it. But I'm also entitled to post here and call it what it is. Of course, as you suggest, you can simply pass these comments by. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card.
..and here it is, the show stopper. Denouncing contributions by simply claiming the 'race card' is being played is something black people have had to deal with for decades..if they express an opinion about race which doesn't conform to the white narrative they're playing the race card. It's interesting
you didn't highlight the fact the OP was playing the race card, since he introduced the subject of race in the first place.
Black men are not a 'thing', those contacting you and 'expecting you to bow down to BBC' are crass individuals who are fetishising themselves because they have a warped belief that their blackness should have some traction with white people, but they don't represent black men as a group, most of whom are just normal people like you & me."100% | |||
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"Will tell you next Thursday.  "You mean next week? Even this Thu is too far away for me/Raul it has to happen the same or the next day - love seeing my wife touched/fuked or hearing about ti | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card.
..and here it is, the show stopper. Denouncing contributions by simply claiming the 'race card' is being played is something black people have had to deal with for decades..if they express an opinion about race which doesn't conform to the white narrative they're playing the race card. It's interesting
you didn't highlight the fact the OP was playing the race card, since he introduced the subject of race in the first place.
Black men are not a 'thing', those contacting you and 'expecting you to bow down to BBC' are crass individuals who are fetishising themselves because they have a warped belief that their blackness should have some traction with white people, but they don't represent black men as a group, most of whom are just normal people like you & me." | |||
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"wow, some people with real woke issues on this thread! This is a swingers site to discuss all kinds of behaviours; for goodness sake people; chill. The BBC thing is something exciting and unusual for many white or asian woman.It doesnt mean black men are superior or inferior; just different and different for white people who have no experience and different is exciting!" Exciting why? Nearly every advertisement on telly has a mixed raced couple on it now days white lass black dude. It's more meh! | |||
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"wow, some people with real woke issues on this thread! This is a swingers site to discuss all kinds of behaviours; for goodness sake people; chill. The BBC thing is something exciting and unusual for many white or asian woman.It doesnt mean black men are superior or inferior; just different and different for white people who have no experience and different is exciting! Exciting why? ... It's more meh!" And this I think is the crux of it. No one can quite explain why - just some vague notion of contrasting skin colours, which doesn't explain why it feels so 'exciting and taboo' or indeed adds an extra layer of humiliation. However, the answer is obvious to most. I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, or that black guys shouldn't roll with it. I'm saying people just need to be honest about what it is that is driving the interactions. That's the reason I call it out for what it really is. | |||
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"I just loved seeing my ex used by m and f any colour " Knew you'd be over 50 making this comment... You mean origin/nationality.... In fact that whole sentenced is fucked - never mind, I'd be here all night explaining! | |||
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"wow, some people with real woke issues on this thread! This is a swingers site to discuss all kinds of behaviours; for goodness sake people; chill. The BBC thing is something exciting and unusual for many white or asian woman.It doesnt mean black men are superior or inferior; just different and different for white people who have no experience and different is exciting!" The othering of black men continues. Even when it is pointed out to you that it is fetsihisation at its finest, you still decide it is not, because it is "exciting and unusual" for white and asian women. What is unusual really about a black person to the point where it becomes exciting for you to sleep with them compared to anyone else? The colour of their skin. And what is unusual about the colour of their skin, especially 500 years after your ancestors first run into black people en masse. And in what world does the word "woke" have connotations of a word that has issues. If the word woke triggers you, then you need to really look in the mirror and ask yourself if you actually despise what the word really describes and why you despise it. | |||
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"I find it very odd when a black man messages to tell me that he has a BBC as if that is enough to interest me…. However this is as equally annoying as the white men who tell me they are VWE. That said, I’ve never had a really interesting, intelligent opening message from a black man, I get the odd one from white men. Even though my profile is very clear I’m not interested in cock size. Based on reading here, I’d theorise that there is such a fetish around black cocks being bigger that the owners of such tools think that’s all they need. Perhaps men should realise that they are more than their penis whatever their colour "Exactly, the black men (and that is the minority, not all of us) who unashamedly use racist festishation and connotations to promote themselves cos they want to get a nut are as worse as the white men who somehow see this is "exciting" and unusual. Both those groups are the same in playing to centuries old racist tropes that somehow has now morphed into "its my preference" and "I like the skin contrast". People never stop to ask themselves why they think that way and whether they have been influenced subliminally by their environment. You haven't gotten an intelligent response from these black men who lead with the detestable 3-letter acronym that they describe themselves, because well, they are not intelligent, if they play a part in the dehumanisation of people they share a hue with, are they? And it's sad that you have only had contact with that very small minority. Agreed, if only men learned to have some positive pride in themselves instead of leading with their cock all the time, we wouldn't have some women buying into the same tropes. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
OP help me understand these threads ..my woke instinct rails against what I view as the racist fetishisation of black bodies.
But hey, perhaps you can help me 'de-woke myself'?
We could start with is it about said guy's 'blackness' that does it for you in a way that someone of another ethnicity would not?
I get 50 plus messages a day alone from black men expecting me to bow down to BBC…most fetishise themselves. Stop with the race card.
And here’s mention of The card again!
I didn’t get one
Is it the same as a card for Jews when there’s antisemitism?
So a black man expressing his distaste for the fetishisation of his colour in a public forum is “playing the race card”
Your context is completely of topic so there’s no comparison to be made. My point is, that it’s been made out to be racist…when we can all see it isn’t. I see you brushed over my comments regarding the black men who constantly message me fetishising themselves.
Someone 'fetishising' themselves is one thing, they are choosing to do it. Someone doing it 'to' them is not the same..
Plus, you say, 'it's been made out to be racist when we can all see it isn't ' I think the very fact there is a debate about it shows that not everyone thinks it isn't.
What I’ve learned from fab….if you enjoy black men you’re racist. If you state you’re not attracted to black men you’re also racist.
Enlightening. "What I've learned from fab....people make reductive arguments against healthy, nuanced debates when they can't understand what is being debated or find it challenges their beliefs and kinks, and reduce it to something else. I always find it interesting when non-black women who claim to love or enjoy black men indulge or excuse dangerous behaviour that harms the very black men (and I mean all of us) they claim to enjoy. After all, it is just a body and nothing else, is it. | |||
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"I find it very odd when a black man messages to tell me that he has a BBC as if that is enough to interest me…. However this is as equally annoying as the white men who tell me they are VWE. That said, I’ve never had a really interesting, intelligent opening message from a black man, I get the odd one from white men. Even though my profile is very clear I’m not interested in cock size. Based on reading here, I’d theorise that there is such a fetish around black cocks being bigger that the owners of such tools think that’s all they need. Perhaps men should realise that they are more than their penis whatever their colour
Exactly, the black men (and that is the minority, not all of us) who unashamedly use racist festishation and connotations to promote themselves cos they want to get a nut are as worse as the white men who somehow see this is "exciting" and unusual. Both those groups are the same in playing to centuries old racist tropes that somehow has now morphed into "its my preference" and "I like the skin contrast". People never stop to ask themselves why they think that way and whether they have been influenced subliminally by their environment.
You haven't gotten an intelligent response from these black men who lead with the detestable 3-letter acronym that they describe themselves, because well, they are not intelligent, if they play a part in the dehumanisation of people they share a hue with, are they?
And it's sad that you have only had contact with that very small minority.
Agreed, if only men learned to have some positive pride in themselves instead of leading with their cock all the time, we wouldn't have some women buying into the same tropes.
"Excellent post Blackmetal. Personally I don't have an issue with white women having a preference for black men, it's the way the preference is expressed (or its motivation) and the disregard for people who try to have a sensible discussion about it which is unhelpful. I've never understood the problem with regarding black men like any other man, the porn inspired acronyms and stereotyping is what black males have grown up with, yet the 'indigenous' population are still often reluctant to accept that and inevitably it creeps into real life and vice versa. | |||
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"I find it very odd when a black man messages to tell me that he has a BBC as if that is enough to interest me…. However this is as equally annoying as the white men who tell me they are VWE. That said, I’ve never had a really interesting, intelligent opening message from a black man, I get the odd one from white men. Even though my profile is very clear I’m not interested in cock size. Based on reading here, I’d theorise that there is such a fetish around black cocks being bigger that the owners of such tools think that’s all they need. Perhaps men should realise that they are more than their penis whatever their colour
Exactly, the black men (and that is the minority, not all of us) who unashamedly use racist festishation and connotations to promote themselves cos they want to get a nut are as worse as the white men who somehow see this is "exciting" and unusual. Both those groups are the same in playing to centuries old racist tropes that somehow has now morphed into "its my preference" and "I like the skin contrast". People never stop to ask themselves why they think that way and whether they have been influenced subliminally by their environment.
You haven't gotten an intelligent response from these black men who lead with the detestable 3-letter acronym that they describe themselves, because well, they are not intelligent, if they play a part in the dehumanisation of people they share a hue with, are they?
And it's sad that you have only had contact with that very small minority.
Agreed, if only men learned to have some positive pride in themselves instead of leading with their cock all the time, we wouldn't have some women buying into the same tropes.
Excellent post Blackmetal.
Personally I don't have an issue with white women having a preference for black men, it's the way the preference is expressed (or its motivation) and the disregard for people who try to have a sensible discussion about it which is unhelpful.
I've never understood the problem with regarding black men like any other man, the porn inspired acronyms and stereotyping is what black males have grown up with, yet the 'indigenous' population are still often reluctant to accept that and inevitably it creeps into real life and vice versa."Exactly! I am the same. I don't have an issue with people being attracted to other people and exploring their kinks and fantasies. Who would have a problem with that? It only becomes a problem, when those kinks and festishes are predicated on the degradation of the humanity and dignity of the very people they want to have sex with. I never quite understand the motivations of those people who "pretend" that it is not a real issue and have severe objections to this being pointed you by the very people that this affects and the same people they profess to find attractive and want to have sex with. Well, maybe I do, as people never quite listen to what others are pointing out unless it is happening to someone in their family or someone they genuinely care about. Combine that with the powerful urge of people to justify just about any impulse when cock duty beckons and we might as well be shouting into the void. I don't expect a lot of caucasians to get it though. After all, the only time they really interact with non-caucasians is either at work (and that is even rare) or through fab. It is hard to really get someone when you hardly come across them in real life, in your social circles and you live in a society that actively promotes them as other, or something out of space. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell "Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about. Have the minerals to call it what is. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is. "Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do | |||
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"It's amazing how a simple question from the OP is now being seen as racist or dehumanising. First of all most of you need to understand that there's a difference between a woman or couple who say they want or like to play with black men and those who say BBC only. The first one is just that ,they have a preference for black man regardless of the size of his cock and that's when they'll tell you it's about the contrast between the 2 skin tones. The second is also self explanatory, someone will be more interested in the size of the black man's cock more than the actual individual. Read what the OP posted ,I personally don't see it as dehumanising. This is a site where people live out their fantasies and not everyone will like and agree to what others fantasise about." The conversation has developed from the original post, as conversations often do. | |||
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"It's amazing how a simple question from the OP is now being seen as racist or dehumanising. First of all most of you need to understand that there's a difference between a woman or couple who say they want or like to play with black men and those who say BBC only. The first one is just that ,they have a preference for black man regardless of the size of his cock and that's when they'll tell you it's about the contrast between the 2 skin tones. The second is also self explanatory, someone will be more interested in the size of the black man's cock more than the actual individual. Read what the OP posted ,I personally don't see it as dehumanising. This is a site where people live out their fantasies and not everyone will like and agree to what others fantasise about. The conversation has developed from the original post, as conversations often do." True but why should the OP be asked to explain why he enjoys this just because some people have issues. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is.
Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do"I didn’t say he had to. I said perhaps ‘if’ he would, some of us might feel differently. Whether he does or not is up to him. But in the absence of, we’re bound to come to our own conclusions. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is.
Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do
I didn’t say he had to. I said perhaps ‘if’ he would, some of us might feel differently.
Whether he does or not is up to him. But in the absence of, we’re bound to come to our own conclusions. "But that's the thing though, why should he explain why he likes this just to make some of you feel differently, that's what him and his Mrs enjoy and they don't owe anyone an explanation so that those individuals can sort out their feelings. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is.
Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do
I didn’t say he had to. I said perhaps ‘if’ he would, some of us might feel differently.
Whether he does or not is up to him. But in the absence of, we’re bound to come to our own conclusions.
But that's the thing though, why should he explain why he likes this just to make some of you feel differently, that's what him and his Mrs enjoy and they don't owe anyone an explanation so that those individuals can sort out their feelings. "I as I just said, he doesn’t. But if you think about it, the guy posted the question on a discussion forum - chances are people are going to discuss his post and take a view on it. Mine is that what he was referring to was the racist fetishisation of blackness. Your view is that it is not this at all. That’s about it. | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is.
Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do
I didn’t say he had to. I said perhaps ‘if’ he would, some of us might feel differently.
Whether he does or not is up to him. But in the absence of, we’re bound to come to our own conclusions.
But that's the thing though, why should he explain why he likes this just to make some of you feel differently, that's what him and his Mrs enjoy and they don't owe anyone an explanation so that those individuals can sort out their feelings.
I as I just said, he doesn’t.
But if you think about it, the guy posted the question on a discussion forum - chances are people are going to discuss his post and take a view on it. Mine is that what he was referring to was the racist fetishisation of blackness. Your view is that it is not this at all. That’s about it. "Why can't it just be a fetish and be looked at as just that | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell "Wow seeing your wife full of black cock must be so sexy | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is.
Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do
I didn’t say he had to. I said perhaps ‘if’ he would, some of us might feel differently.
Whether he does or not is up to him. But in the absence of, we’re bound to come to our own conclusions.
But that's the thing though, why should he explain why he likes this just to make some of you feel differently, that's what him and his Mrs enjoy and they don't owe anyone an explanation so that those individuals can sort out their feelings.
I as I just said, he doesn’t.
But if you think about it, the guy posted the question on a discussion forum - chances are people are going to discuss his post and take a view on it. Mine is that what he was referring to was the racist fetishisation of blackness. Your view is that it is not this at all. That’s about it.
Why can't it just be a fetish and be looked at as just that "Your statement isn't a trivial one, a whole race of people viewed as a fetish? | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is.
Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do
I didn’t say he had to. I said perhaps ‘if’ he would, some of us might feel differently.
Whether he does or not is up to him. But in the absence of, we’re bound to come to our own conclusions.
But that's the thing though, why should he explain why he likes this just to make some of you feel differently, that's what him and his Mrs enjoy and they don't owe anyone an explanation so that those individuals can sort out their feelings.
I as I just said, he doesn’t.
But if you think about it, the guy posted the question on a discussion forum - chances are people are going to discuss his post and take a view on it. Mine is that what he was referring to was the racist fetishisation of blackness. Your view is that it is not this at all. That’s about it.
Why can't it just be a fetish and be looked at as just that
Your statement isn't a trivial one, a whole race of people viewed as a fetish? "I was responding to the comment above mine. The OP did not say it was a fetish he just said he enjoyed watching his wife with a black guy and some felt like that was racist and he had to explain himself. If someone on this site decides that having sex with someone from a different race is a fetish to them the that's their thing and if it doesn't affect your use of the site then leave them be. | |||
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"I think the point is if you as a white person somehow see the black guys any differently to any other guy out there then there has to be something in it. That something could be anything, both perceived positive or negative. The issue I have is that I often find some white guys into this set up are getting off on seeing their women become super slutty for the night and its as if taking a black guys cock makes here even more deviant, more slutty, more degraded. Think about that for a moment. Those guys don't think they're being racialist at all but its happening on a subconscious level. " I seen the other comment you wrote and you have explained perfectly | |||
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"i Mr,love the excitement of watching the wife sucking and fucking a black guy any other guys enjoy this this aswell
Perhaps if the OP can explain what it is about his wife fucking a black guy, as opposed to any other guy, then we might understand better. The point is, as it stands, it’s pretty obvious (to me and some others on this thread at least) what this is about.
Have the minerals to call it what is.
Why does he need to explain. It could be just that he enjoys watching his wife with a black guy and that's all it is. So maybe you and the others as you say are just assuming. It's just a preference on a site where you can be and do anything you wish to do
I didn’t say he had to. I said perhaps ‘if’ he would, some of us might feel differently.
Whether he does or not is up to him. But in the absence of, we’re bound to come to our own conclusions.
But that's the thing though, why should he explain why he likes this just to make some of you feel differently, that's what him and his Mrs enjoy and they don't owe anyone an explanation so that those individuals can sort out their feelings.
I as I just said, he doesn’t.
But if you think about it, the guy posted the question on a discussion forum - chances are people are going to discuss his post and take a view on it. Mine is that what he was referring to was the racist fetishisation of blackness. Your view is that it is not this at all. That’s about it.
Why can't it just be a fetish and be looked at as just that
Your statement isn't a trivial one, a whole race of people viewed as a fetish?
I was responding to the comment above mine.
The OP did not say it was a fetish he just said he enjoyed watching his wife with a black guy and some felt like that was racist and he had to explain himself. If someone on this site decides that having sex with someone from a different race is a fetish to them the that's their thing and if it doesn't affect your use of the site then leave them be."You have answered your own question there, but perhaps your understanding is beyond my help. Have a read through Blackmetal's posts - just about the most, coherent sense I've heard on this topic. | |||
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