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"Are you not drinkers yourselves?" We don't drink during play meets and if we drink then it's only one pint. No more than that. | |||
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"So long as the other couple didn't appear intoxicated it wouldn't bother me " You mean after 10 glasses of vodka,they would be still in their senses? | |||
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"As long as they’re in control " Speech becomes slurred and then the guy starts spanking his wife's ass . Scared Priya once and we was out of the door in seconds. | |||
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"I don't think arse spanking is a sign of intoxication " Arsss spanking in public? | |||
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"We’ve noticed this in clubs, male plying partner with drink to loose inhibitions. " That must raise legal consent issues. The fact the partner made the female d*unk does not act as an excuse for those who have sex with her. | |||
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"Some years ago I had a meet with a couple who d*unk constantly for over 2 hours whilst I remained sober (driving). They could hardly stand when it came time to have sex. The meet was a nightmare. As I drove away afterwards I wondered if I could legally claim the wife had consented in the light of what she had d*unk. If you have to be d*unk to swing then perhaps it not for you? " Precisely this .. We just don't know | |||
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"I don't think arse spanking is a sign of intoxication " Not at all but you know when the guy gets excited and wants to show off a bit. Being d*unk gives you that leverage of losing inhibitions. | |||
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"I don't think arse spanking is a sign of intoxication Arsss spanking in public?" I didn't think of that. I assumed it was in private | |||
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"We’ve noticed this in clubs, male plying partner with drink to loose inhibitions. " The amount of pissed up women in clubs is shocking. And the men who will fuck them anyway! | |||
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"Had meets ruined like this before. The last one she got so d*unk she could hardly walk, threw up and went to bed.. Her partner then tried to convince me that she wanted the two of us to use her while she was out of it.... needless to say I got the hell out of there. (Yes I did let her know the next day what did and didn't happen, and she was actually pissed off with me for not doing it.... lol!)" Ewww nowt like the stink of puke to make a man horny. Glad you left. | |||
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"We’ve noticed this in clubs, male plying partner with drink to loose inhibitions. The amount of pissed up women in clubs is shocking. And the men who will fuck them anyway! " We have noticed in socials too and they both become so uncomfortable in front of us that we just don't know what to do . You know that face when one feels nauseated and may puke on the table anytime . | |||
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"To be fair we like a drink. A couple or single we can have a good drink with and get along with is a great indication for us. We love a good laugh and to let our hair down with others as well as the sex. Maybe we're not the best swingers but we have fun with like minded people. And if a meet is a bit boozey and works well we know we'll be able to all work well together when a little more sober too." I couldn't have put it better myself. There seems to be a bit of piousness going on here. "well I don't drink" seems to be going for the moral high ground. People saying how sensible and healthy they are over others who need a bit of "Dutch courage". Each to their own. Don't want to drink or meet people who have had a drink? Fine. Your privilege. Coming down on others who find a drink helps them lose their inhibitions is a bit preachy in my opinion. | |||
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"We’ve noticed this in clubs, male plying partner with drink to loose inhibitions. The amount of pissed up women in clubs is shocking. And the men who will fuck them anyway! We have noticed in socials too and they both become so uncomfortable in front of us that we just don't know what to do . You know that face when one feels nauseated and may puke on the table anytime ." Yep. You could just make an excuse and leave. Say your phone is on silent and you got a text to get back home. | |||
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"Dont see the problem really,its not the amount people drink its a case of how in control they are , " By not seeing the problem you are somewhat missing the point here, you are right its not how much they drink, its how in control they are, yes, but taking into account that everyone can drink different amounts and it effects people to varying levels, i believe what someone said previously was they had drank so much she couldnt help but debate if they were legally able to be considered as having consented…. As a single male, i have had this thought, you could not drink on a meet, you could have a few sociables, or you could choose to get ratted, as, i could choose to do any of the above also…. But if i feel that they are d*unk as fuck, that would make me feel uncomfortable and potentially choose not to play, more so if only recently met as opposed to if already have a pre existing friendship. Communication is the key here, if the person(s) you are meeting and their priority is the play, they should maybe broach this in advance, if the priority is the drinks, be aware that this may cause, if the individual is inclined (which they admittedly might not be) to choose not to play…. If the person(s) do broach the drinking issue, and the individual still chooses to not play, that is not on them, as they communicated and did everything they could. But the point is the “individual” in question may or may not have an issue with playing with someone that is intoxicated | |||
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"We’ve noticed this in clubs, male plying partner with drink to loose inhibitions. The amount of pissed up women in clubs is shocking. And the men who will fuck them anyway! We have noticed in socials too and they both become so uncomfortable in front of us that we just don't know what to do . You know that face when one feels nauseated and may puke on the table anytime . Yep. You could just make an excuse and leave. Say your phone is on silent and you got a text to get back home. " Haha we did fled away from the scene and later on messaged them about their drinking issues. They gave lame excuses like calming nerves, getting carried etc etc. | |||
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" I don't drink Dont like to smell it on others " | |||
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"Can you get a proper hard on when d*unk ? Asking for a friend lol" Whey aye, failing that…. Could induce an emergency “thumb it in like wet spaghetti process”…. ;-p hahahahahahaha “sorry to anyone offended” that im not sorry x | |||
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"We’ve noticed this in clubs, male plying partner with drink to loose inhibitions. That must raise legal consent issues. The fact the partner made the female d*unk does not act as an excuse for those who have sex with her. " Hence the reason I would never go to clubs, just not worth the risk legally | |||
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"Some people have got a real chip on their shoulder over this one, huh? No piousness going on here - if everyone agrees to meet up and have a few drinks etc, awesome. Even a lot of drinks - or whatever else you want to smoke/snort/whatever. Even some sort of cnc scene like described earlier in the thread - informed consent all round? Awesome, play on. We don't get d*unk on meets but we certainly don't see a problem with other people AGREEING to do so together. Communication is the key here - and assumption is the gin-soaked mother-in-law of all fuck-ups. The problem comes when people get lagered up and you don't find out until they're d*unk in front of you, and you have to deal with it. It's shitty and awkward and it imposes your d*unken self on the people you're meeting. If you do this, have a word with yourself because that's legitimately a type of drinking problem." It's not being pious but I personally think that getting d*unk on meets is not a good impression on others . People who snort or have piss drinking orgy ,it's all upto them. As a normal civilised person ,why would one get d*unk on swing meets ? The concept of drinking and getting laid I believe is not correct . Also ,one has to think that when other person is trying to be sober then just control it . | |||
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"I think with some it’s nerves and with some they can do this with alcohol. OP, yourselves excluded, I’ve met a couple of younger Asian couples just like this , firing down the vodka and smoking to unwind, particularly the female and definitely not the male pushing her , and I think it’s because it’s kind of so hard for them to accept they swing. It’s really sad but I can understand why some people feel like that " Hi Hope you are well . Yes, I couldn't believe why men forces their ladies ,even Asians to drink ? Totally unethical | |||
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"I think with some it’s nerves and with some they can do this with alcohol. OP, yourselves excluded, I’ve met a couple of younger Asian couples just like this , firing down the vodka and smoking to unwind, particularly the female and definitely not the male pushing her , and I think it’s because it’s kind of so hard for them to accept they swing. It’s really sad but I can understand why some people feel like that " The problem is, for example, ..... Tomorrow they will be sober but he will still remember inviting a room full of strangers to fuck her arse and she will be feeling it! | |||
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"Some people have got a real chip on their shoulder over this one, huh? No piousness going on here - if everyone agrees to meet up and have a few drinks etc, awesome. Even a lot of drinks - or whatever else you want to smoke/snort/whatever. Even some sort of cnc scene like described earlier in the thread - informed consent all round? Awesome, play on. We don't get d*unk on meets but we certainly don't see a problem with other people AGREEING to do so together. Communication is the key here - and assumption is the gin-soaked mother-in-law of all fuck-ups. The problem comes when people get lagered up and you don't find out until they're d*unk in front of you, and you have to deal with it. It's shitty and awkward and it imposes your d*unken self on the people you're meeting. If you do this, have a word with yourself because that's legitimately a type of drinking problem. It's not being pious but I personally think that getting d*unk on meets is not a good impression on others . People who snort or have piss drinking orgy ,it's all upto them. As a normal civilised person ,why would one get d*unk on swing meets ? The concept of drinking and getting laid I believe is not correct . Also ,one has to think that when other person is trying to be sober then just control it ." Was sort of on your team until this message…. *big thumbs down* the implication someone who wants to get d*unk on a meet means they are not civilised, is at best judgemental, at worst uppity and patronising OP…. You believe drinking and getting laid to not be correct, your opinion, and your choice as you are entitled to…. Same as they can CHOOSE too…. Your are entitled to an opinion, you are not entitled to dictate how others should choose…. | |||
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"I don't think arse spanking is a sign of intoxication " Unless you're aim is way off lol | |||
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"Some people have got a real chip on their shoulder over this one, huh? No piousness going on here - if everyone agrees to meet up and have a few drinks etc, awesome. Even a lot of drinks - or whatever else you want to smoke/snort/whatever. Even some sort of cnc scene like described earlier in the thread - Was sort of on your team until this message…. *big thumbs down* the implication someone who wants to get d*unk on a meet means they are not civilised, is at best judgemental, at worst uppity and patronising OP…. You believe drinking and getting laid to not be correct, your opinion, and your choice as you are entitled to…. Same as they can CHOOSE too…. Your are entitled to an opinion, you are not entitled to dictate how others should choose…." Apologies, my choice of words may be wrong but my point was ,how to avoid embarrassment publicly. Not being judgemental but what can you do when someone drops their guard so easily when their profile says something else ? As far as as swinging is concerned, we are still strangers . | |||
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"Some people have got a real chip on their shoulder over this one, huh? No piousness going on here - if everyone agrees to meet up and have a few drinks etc, awesome. Even a lot of drinks - or whatever else you want to smoke/snort/whatever. Even some sort of cnc scene like described earlier in the thread - informed consent all round? Awesome, play on. We don't get d*unk on meets but we certainly don't see a problem with other people AGREEING to do so together. Communication is the key here - and assumption is the gin-soaked mother-in-law of all fuck-ups. The problem comes when people get lagered up and you don't find out until they're d*unk in front of you, and you have to deal with it. It's shitty and awkward and it imposes your d*unken self on the people you're meeting. If you do this, have a word with yourself because that's legitimately a type of drinking problem. It's not being pious but I personally think that getting d*unk on meets is not a good impression on others . People who snort or have piss drinking orgy ,it's all upto them. As a normal civilised person ,why would one get d*unk on swing meets ? The concept of drinking and getting laid I believe is not correct . Also ,one has to think that when other person is trying to be sober then just control it ." I agree. Getting d*unk is not the same as having some drinks. If both parties have agreed to be d*unk and/ or snorted up then that's cool and a different situation. | |||
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"Some people need drink to calm them down and ease there nerves. Just because you only need/want a pint doesn't mean everyone everyone is the same. As long as they can still perform and are not d*unk, rude etc what does it matter. If you don't like people drinking at your your party/meets then don't hold them, go to a club where other people are not drinking your booze. " Agreed, I have just put up a question to know how people deal in such situations and have they experienced it before ? | |||
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"We had few socials and play meets where we noticed the other couple just guzzling vodka and wine , glass after glass. Many times we could taste it ourselves during kissing . Needless to say ,we wrapped up the game and came home. Why people drink so much during meet ? You need one or two drinks to calm your nerves. How other couples tackle such situations ?" It's a problem and one that is getting worse. I'd not play with someone obviously d*unk.. there would be consent issues too if lots of drink consumed x | |||
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"As I drove away afterwards I wondered if I could legally claim the wife had consented in the light of what she had d*unk. If you have to be d*unk to swing then perhaps it not for you? " This sums it up perfectly! We don’t like it if they have to get off their face to get into the zone. It raises questions, like do they really want to be doing it and, more seriously, are they fully consenting? Legally, consent cannot be given while dr@nk, so risks lots of potentially nasty situations. Absolutely nothing wrong with a drink or two before, during or after, but sobriety should be maintained at all times… for us at least. | |||
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"Coming down on others who find a drink helps them lose their inhibitions is a bit preachy in my opinion." The OP was expressly referring to being totally dr@nk, not a bit of Dutch courage. Having sex with someone who is totally out of it and not in a position to give consent isn’t cool… and could see you facing assault charges. Consent given while sober won’t apply later while dr@nk. | |||
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"As I drove away afterwards I wondered if I could legally claim the wife had consented in the light of what she had d*unk. If you have to be d*unk to swing then perhaps it not for you? This sums it up perfectly! We don’t like it if they have to get off their face to get into the zone. It raises questions, like do they really want to be doing it and, more seriously, are they fully consenting? Legally, consent cannot be given while dr@nk, so risks lots of potentially nasty situations. Absolutely nothing wrong with a drink or two before, during or after, but sobriety should be maintained at all times… for us at least." There are many cases of "date r*pe" where men have claimed an inebriated woman has consented only to find that the next day she regrets her actions and makes a formal complaint of non-consensual sex. I have not heard it about a couple but some of the stories about clubs makes me wonder if it has happened there. | |||
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"We’ve noticed this in clubs, male plying partner with drink to loose inhibitions. That must raise legal consent issues. The fact the partner made the female d*unk does not act as an excuse for those who have sex with her. Hence the reason I would never go to clubs, just not worth the risk legally " there are plenty of people that dont drink at clubs | |||
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"To be fair we like a drink. A couple or single we can have a good drink with and get along with is a great indication for us. We love a good laugh and to let our hair down with others as well as the sex. Maybe we're not the best swingers but we have fun with like minded people. And if a meet is a bit boozey and works well we know we'll be able to all work well together when a little more sober too." Have to agree with you we enjoy a few drinks during a meet , it relaxes us and we tend not to meet people that don’t drink . I often wonder if people that say they don’t drink genuinely don’t or are just worried about getting home to the wife sober or worried about putting on a performance rather than just having fun . If you are genuinely teetotal why would you meet people that aren’t ? | |||
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"To be fair we like a drink. A couple or single we can have a good drink with and get along with is a great indication for us. We love a good laugh and to let our hair down with others as well as the sex. Maybe we're not the best swingers but we have fun with like minded people. And if a meet is a bit boozey and works well we know we'll be able to all work well together when a little more sober too." Have to agree with you we enjoy a few drinks during a meet , it relaxes us and we tend not to meet people that don’t drink . I often wonder if people that say they don’t drink genuinely don’t or are just worried about getting home to the wife sober or worried about putting on a performance rather than just having fun . If you are genuinely teetotal why would you meet people that aren’t ? | |||
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" If you are genuinely teetotal why would you meet people that aren’t ? " The partner I used to swing with is teetotal but he never had a problem with me or the couples we met drinking. | |||
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"If you are genuinely teetotal why would you meet people that aren’t ? " We’re vegan but still swing with those who aren’t! Same with drink… I (C) would consider myself Teatotal, though have a single drink on very rare occasions. | |||
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"What if you were invited to a party. People usually drink at a party don't they? " Maybe but not all, I drive for example so I won’t have any. | |||
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"What if you were invited to a party. People usually drink at a party don't they? " Depends on the type of party and one of us is always sober to drive back . But won't get d*unk for sure | |||
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"What if you were invited to a party. People usually drink at a party don't they? " Its not the odd drink. It's getting blind dr*nk that affects most. | |||
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"We had few socials and play meets where we noticed the other couple just guzzling vodka and wine , glass after glass. Many times we could taste it ourselves during kissing . Needless to say ,we wrapped up the game and came home. Why people drink so much during meet ? You need one or two drinks to calm your nerves. How other couples tackle such situations ?" It's called Dutch Courage sadly the lifestyle is full of it | |||
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"I wonder if the other couple thought yous were boring R" Because you don’t drink? What an attitude. | |||
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"Can you get a proper hard on when d*unk ? Asking for a friend lol" I don't think alcohol is an aphrodisiac lol but think it makes you bolder in some situations. | |||
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"Dont see the problem really,its not the amount people drink its a case of how in control they are , By not seeing the problem you are somewhat missing the point here, you are right its not how much they drink, its how in control they are, yes, but taking into account that everyone can drink different amounts and it effects people to varying levels, i believe what someone said previously was they had drank so much she couldnt help but debate if they were legally able to be considered as having consented…. As a single male, i have had this thought, you could not drink on a meet, you could have a few sociables, or you could choose to get ratted, as, i could choose to do any of the above also…. But if i feel that they are d*unk as fuck, that would make me feel uncomfortable and potentially choose not to play, more so if only recently met as opposed to if already have a pre existing friendship. Communication is the key here, if the person(s) you are meeting and their priority is the play, they should maybe broach this in advance, if the priority is the drinks, be aware that this may cause, if the individual is inclined (which they admittedly might not be) to choose not to play…. If the person(s) do broach the drinking issue, and the individual still chooses to not play, that is not on them, as they communicated and did everything they could. But the point is the “individual” in question may or may not have an issue with playing with someone that is intoxicated " Think your missing the point ,OP said the amount people drinking ,never mentioned been d*unk ,1 pint can be another persons 5 ...thats the point so to judge people on the amount they drink is wrong ,by all means judge them if they arent in control , | |||
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