FabSwingers.com forum: Is Soft Swingers ruining Fabs

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ie all talk and no action liking the idea of swinging but not actually going through with anything.

Have noticed a change over the years at chams where the dynamics have changed. It used to be pretty full on. Yes I know not every week is the same with different people and all that. Couples going but to socialize only rather than playing. Or playing with each other but not actually swapping this is not swinging.

Would love to here others thoughts on this x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the school disco image (those going and not playing) that has put us off to be honest...

We've never soft swung in us lives

Wolf

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

they might be newbies and looking to dip there toes in the water which might lead to swapping, each to there own is my opinion

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Ie all talk and no action liking the idea of swinging but not actually going through with anything.

Would love to here others thoughts on this x"

I think that a lot of people are more socialable and like actually talking and getting to know people more than on a superficial basis, then the full on "don't care" attitude...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"they might be newbies and looking to dip there toes in the water which might lead to swapping, each to there own is my opinion"

Newbies I can understand. Nerves etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is what you make of it,soft swing or full swing its there preference.Some couples only like having sex with there own partners on a meet while watching the other couple having sex.Other couples go all the way thats up to them, tbh its what ever turnes you and your partner on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only rules in swinging, are the rules that you as individuals/couples choose to play by.

Soft swing is as much a part of it as full on play is.

I think that it's the diversity that makes it what it is, and soft play is just another preference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we r one of said swingers that r ruining it, we only play with each other in clubs not to say we wouldn't play with a girl there but no we don't swap partners and r never likely too we pay club membership like everyone else and while clubs happy to take our money we will continue to. we do happily play with each other at a club and that seems to keep some single guys happy watching us. i thought it was upto each and every person to decide what worked for them xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't be parting with good-looking money to get to and get in a club to sit yacking all night, that's for sure

Like a dentist me, often chatting whilst I'm doing a filling

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me personally, I need to get to know the person in sufficient details before I would consider meeting him for fun.

How long it would take depends on the amount, as well as quality of the messages being exchanged.

It can take just a few hours, or days, or even weeks/months.

When I go to a club to attend a social, I tend to socialise with friends and other like-minded people. I seldom play at clubs with peeps I don't already know.

I must be doing something right, as I have yet to moan and groan about let downs or bad meets due to whatever reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For me personally, I need to get to know the person in sufficient details before I would consider meeting him for fun.

How long it would take depends on the amount, as well as quality of the messages being exchanged.

It can take just a few hours, or days, or even weeks/months.

When I go to a club to attend a social, I tend to socialise with friends and other like-minded people. I seldom play at clubs with peeps I don't already know.

I must be doing something right, as I have yet to moan and groan about let downs or bad meets due to whatever reasons.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Socials are like taster sessions etc but I just don't see the point of going to a club to get d*unk and just sit around chatting all night x

And yes there is soft swap and play with own partners I get that. But the couples that wont even soft swap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We fall under the 'soft swing' group, we only go to club to see if the people we want to meet are genuine and will actually turn up, by the end of it we either have people to take home or we've had a good chin wag and rant about how fake some are.....clearly were not real swingers so we'll be off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I am happy to pay the entrance fee to visit a club like everyone else, then it is my provocative to do whatever I see fit once I am in it.

I do not see why I have to have sex just because I am in a swingers club.

There is no sign above the door to dictate one must have sex in order to step foot inside a swingers club.

Likewise, I cannot remember seeing any signs above the doors of pubs to dictate the punters must buy consume alcohol in order to step foot inside.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Singles don't swing though do they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Singles don't swing though do they?

they do if they come here

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

i have never claimed to be a swinger i am a swingle x

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By *onestbabeWoman
over a year ago

canvey

I'm single and I swing so yes they do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Socials are like taster sessions etc but I just don't see the point of going to a club to get d*unk and just sit around chatting all night x

And yes there is soft swap and play with own partners I get that. But the couples that wont even soft swap."

Just to clarify, are we talking couples that don't play or couples that don;t play with you?

I'll be honest we've witnessed this, but does it really matter? Surely each to their own. Saying it is ruining swinging is laughable.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

couples who dont play in general x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

and yes each to their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get a hell of a lot of messages from couples who want to Play and see lots of posts in here from couples searching for a single bi fem. What are we in your eyes if not swingers? just play toys for couples amusement? There is a place for singles in swing world, like it or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Singles don't swing though do they?"

Both Perky and I swung as singles before we met. The reason I say that was Swinging is, if you apply the expression more common in the USA - Recreational Sex - then that would be as much Swinging as swapping is between couples.

As for the Soft Swing scene, it's not for us. But.. that could be because both of us are of an age and level of variety and experience with other partners that we are confident about our own sexualities and that of each other.

We can quite understand a couple of who have been together 'forever' and have never had different partners, but recognise that the lifestyle is something they should look at, who want a 'soft route' into it as going straight to full-swap would be a far bigger step than it is for us.

Having said that, we don't meet soft swingers as we don't want to put people under pressure or have the evening end on a downer through mis-matched expectations.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Without the single girls and guys there would be no swinging or threesomes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Without the single girls and guys there would be no swinging or threesomes."

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By *exki11enWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

"i have never claimed to be a swinger i am a swingle x"

Then your username is misleading.

To be honest, I find it amusing that as a single, you seem to have an issue with couples who won't swap as "that's not swinging". By your own definition, you are not a swinger (and you protest that you don't claim to be) but your name says otherwise.

Also, the title of your thread is misleading. ARE soft swingers ruining fab? Soft swingers, as I believe it are swingers who will do everything but penetration. You are talking about people who don't meet full stop. 2 different and unconnected things.

So in answer to your question, no, I don't think soft swingers are ruining fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cant see how soft swing is ruining swinging. It's all about people's choice. No different than people choosing who they will or won't shag. If they happy to pay to get into a club why does that mean they have to full swap with whoever happens to be there that night.

We have never been to a club yet but friends have told us they are no pressure places where you can socialise and have a laugh and play of the mood strikes. I don't see how that's ruining swinging.

How do you k ow a couple don't full swap but perhaps just don't fancy anyone there that particular night? And what's wrong with just being watched?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Socials are like taster sessions etc but I just don't see the point of going to a club to get d*unk and just sit around chatting all night x

And yes there is soft swap and play with own partners I get that. But the couples that wont even soft swap."

We are swingers and attend clubs but dont play, we use the club facilities hang around naked talking to other like minded couples or singles, we arent ruining it for any one, sometimes we do play sometimes we dont, like said we use clubs facilities, ie pool jacuzzi hot tubs, but also love to put on shows and also use the fetish rooms in clubs, and its a change for us, were else do you have swings, bondage beds, equipment, cant keep it in our home due to young family, its a mind set for us not just about the sex, so socialising with likeminded people is great for us, and if we do play or swop bonus if not We have Fun Anyway

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i have never claimed to be a swinger i am a swingle x

Then your username is misleading.

So in answer to your question, no, I don't think soft swingers are ruining fab. "

Well that's cleared that up thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Socials are like taster sessions etc but I just don't see the point of going to a club to get d*unk and just sit around chatting all night x

And yes there is soft swap and play with own partners I get that. But the couples that wont even soft swap.

I like your thinking and you are open and you know what you want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really though, it should make no difference to you. Go out, enjoy what you're doing and don't worry about what others do

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And ps its called a discussion, debate or a conversation not attack the op thread.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I suspect we would all have a different response to the simple question 'what is swinging'.

So the question 'what do you thing is ruining fab' is probably another one with 1,000,000 different answers.

and i suspect none of them the correct one (in some eyes)

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

I personally think it depends what your expectations are when in clubs. We have noticed that sat nights are very clicky in chams lately and there is very little play going on when play does start it is always people who stay with their partners but maybe they enjoy being watched. It depends who approaches us as to if we play with them and we quite often only play with each other in there on sat nights but other nights we play with singles and couples. So like everything its personal choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Socials are like taster sessions etc but I just don't see the point of going to a club to get d*unk and just sit around chatting all night x

And yes there is soft swap and play with own partners I get that. But the couples that wont even soft swap."

Maybe they don't see anyone they want to play with. Because you see someone socializing and chatting on one night doesn't mean they don't meet and don't play at all. I don't think there's a rule you have to play with someone, even if there's nobody you happen to want to play with, just because you've gone to a club.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Personal choice is a wonderful thing. My preference is I dont like Saturdays for that reason too cliquey. My preference one on ones at home and meeting couples at a club.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Socials are like taster sessions etc but I just don't see the point of going to a club to get d*unk and just sit around chatting all night x

And yes there is soft swap and play with own partners I get that. But the couples that wont even soft swap.

Point well made Kinky x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Without the single girls and guys there would be no swinging or threesomes."

How do you work that one out then?

Two couples can do MMF or MFF so a threesome doesn't depend on singles

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Without the single girls and guys there would be no swinging or threesomes.

How do you work that one out then?

Two couples can do MMF or MFF so a threesome doesn't depend on singles"

No but that is a foursome or a threesome with someone watching lol x My logic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would ask whether anything is ruining fab. It seems great to me. Sure I could suggest some extra functionality that would make things easier/better for me but in general it's a good site.

There are so many people here, looking for so many things, that there are bound to be some you have mutual interest with whatever you're looking for.

I, in general, think the site works well and is excellent value since it's free! (I think the subscriber features are worth paying for too).

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"Ie all talk and no action liking the idea of swinging but not actually going through with anything"

From our experience, some just don't have the confidence to go through with a meet

Sadly, some on here would refer to them as "time-wasters"

Patience is a virtue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We fall under the 'soft swing' group, we only go to club to see if the people we want to meet are genuine and will actually turn up, by the end of it we either have people to take home or we've had a good chin wag and rant about how fake some are.....clearly were not real swingers so we'll be off

Don't you dare!

Not a lot of folk have such well thought out and quite frankly stunning pics - and you're as entitled to play by your own rules as any!

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

just today we have had 3 couples look at our profile and wink at us

when we look at there profiles they all wanted soft swing but only with own partners and watching the other couple

this would be of no interest to us or the vast numbers of couples on here,

I think this is what the op was referring to not the social side of swinging at clubs.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"But the couples that wont even soft swap."

We've never, ever soft swapped for obvious reasons

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"just today we have had 3 couples look at our profile and wink at us

when we look at there profiles they all wanted soft swing but only with own partners and watching the other couple

this would be of no interest to us or the vast numbers of couples on here,

I think this is what the op was referring to not the social side of swinging at clubs. "

Thank you for clearing that up mwah x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only rules in swinging, are the rules that you as individuals/couples choose to play by.

Soft swing is as much a part of it as full on play is.

I think that it's the diversity that makes it what it is, and soft play is just another preference

Just to add...

All of the above works best for all when there is a meeting of minds and desires. This can only happen with good communication and an open an honest approach. Only then can it be truly great.

The only people who really ruin swinging are those who seek to push themselves over all others for their own gratification, or use deceit to raise hopes and expectations knowing that they have no intention of fulfilling anyone else's because theirs are already spent. Or those who wish to hurt or upset others for their own selfish gratification.

It is those who ruin Fab and swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've had three no shows this week, all arranged to meet us at ours, only 1 bothered to let us know he wasn't coming, that's why we go to clubs, I can't talk to 20 different people in one night at home but I can decide which of the 20 we'd invite back to play with from a club, if you want to watch people at it then Watch some porn? I've never seen a club as somewhere to play I like to know the bed I'm lying on hasn't had several possibly unwashed people on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"couples who dont play in general x"

But I thought clubs were supposed to be no pressure environments where you didn't have to play if you didn't want to?

My lack of belief that this can be the case is what leads us to not going to clubs and you've just firmed my resolve not to go...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"couples who dont play in general x

But I thought clubs were supposed to be no pressure environments where you didn't have to play if you didn't want to?

My lack of belief that this can be the case is what leads us to not going to clubs and you've just firmed my resolve not to go..."

i have never felt any pressure to play ever and i thought i would so understand why and i would write clubs off if i was u but i would go on a social night to start xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wouldn't even

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By *andCCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"The only rules in swinging, are the rules that you as individuals/couples choose to play by.

Soft swing is as much a part of it as full on play is.

I think that it's the diversity that makes it what it is, and soft play is just another preference

Well said. We are entitled to draw our personal boundaries wherever we like, with no obligation to do anything. Even if I have promised a sexual encounter, I am entitled to change my mind at any point, which at worst would warrant an accusation of time-wasting. Nothing should ever be taken for granted. Complaining about this stuff will not change the way people behave, just as my post will not stop people complaining about others in the forums.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I don't think one set of preferences spoil the site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we've never full or soft swapped at a club, but i don't think that means we are ruining the scene

to put in bluntly, we've never spoken to anyone at a club that has caught our fancy.

We have full swapped away from clubs with couples and singles but if we want to go to a club, we enjoy the sitting round in next to nothing and having a social drink, we don't go expecting we will have sex, we going expecting to have a good time, if we dont find anyone we like that will be just drinks or if we do..we'd full swap

if 'soft swappers' had to full swap to go to a club, they wouldn't go, so surely its better they go and add to the atmosphere, than not be there at all??

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Ie all talk and no action liking the idea of swinging but not actually going through with anything.

Would love to here others thoughts on this x"

What am I missing? What has Chams got to do with Fab?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We only ever soft swing when in a couple situation, our preference, and not in our opinion ruining any fun or swinging.

People can accept it or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also yes we enjoy a social chat, with like minded people, and that doesn't mean we want to jump in their pants, we have at Libs had great fun just having a giggle and talking....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all at all, we have done both, and had great times. As always it is up to people what there limits are. Does seem to be few threads in different forums moaning that people aren't using Fab as it should be. Everyone has the choice and people should respect that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some could say that singles n here (fem and make) are spoiling fabs…after all they say that swinging was started between couples….. 2's company, 4 is fun but 3 is a crowd.

;-)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

swinging has changed a lot over the years

Dont get me wrong i think everyone has the rights to go to clubs no matter what they are into, but now days there does seem a lot more couples who just go because its trendy to have a drink in a towel in a club, who have no intentions of playing but just like that feeling of being naughty they get by going to a swingers club

Only problem i have with this is where as years ago everyone who went to clubs seemed to be looking for sex so i had no problem asking guys to room now days i ask a guy and i just get daggers off his Mrs because 'they dont play' so it puts you off asking people in fear of offending

So in some ways they do spoil it but thats not to say i dont think they should be there

Maybe people should get coloured bands on the door, gren for players, red for none players, so we know who we can ask lol

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"that doesn't mean we want to jump in their pants, we have at Libs had great fun just having a giggle and talking...."

Having a laugh & talking does help break down any barriers, thus, making it easier to get into their pants

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"swinging has changed a lot over the years

So in some ways they do spoil it but thats not to say i dont think they should be there

Maybe people should get coloured bands on the door, gren for players, red for none players, so we know who we can ask lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some could say that singles n here (fem and make) are spoiling fabs…after all they say that swinging was started between couples….. 2's company, 4 is fun but 3 is a crowd.

;-)"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"swinging has changed a lot over the years

So in some ways they do spoil it but thats not to say i dont think they should be there

Maybe people should get coloured bands on the door, gren for players, red for none players, so we know who we can ask lol

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and what do u get if u only play if u fancy who is asking u or only play with ladies there r so many choices with swinging and peoples preferences to what they want from the life seem under constant scruinity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some could say that singles n here (fem and make) are spoiling fabs…after all they say that swinging was started between couples….. 2's company, 4 is fun but 3 is a crowd.

;-)"

really?

ive never had a couple kick me out of bed for causing a croud

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By *asperthedogCouple
over a year ago

midlands

reminds me of a conversation I had last night at chams

you'll already know my thoughts on the subject

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ie all talk and no action liking the idea of swinging but not actually going through with anything.

Would love to here others thoughts on this x

What am I missing? What has Chams got to do with Fab?"

Swinging in general then it just seems to be that to be a swinger is a bit like wearing the latest fashion tag looks good but not there to play kind of thing x

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By *rryTMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Stupid question, what does soft swing actually mean?

No full sex?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Stupid question, what does soft swing actually mean?

No full sex?"

No full swap yes anything up to oral x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe people should get coloured bands on the door, gren for players, red for none players, so we know who we can ask lol

Can I have an amber one please? It'll let everyone know I'm up for swapping ....almost ready ....it'll start flashing when I'm ready about to give a green light lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i have never claimed to be a swinger i am a swingle x"

How funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have yet to see why the clubs are mentioned on here as the op has asked is soft swing ruining fabs there for i thought it was about here not at the clubs.

an no i dont think it is its each to their own an they take from it what they put in so if dipping their toes in till they find them selves then so be it , not everyone has the confidence to jump right in an shag someone elses hubby or wife so leave them be after all noone forces you to do any thing you dont want to do they so why pick on them ?????????? we may as well pick on all the bare backers , single fems who wont meet single lads or couples that wont meet single lads or what ever .

swinging is what YOU make it to YOU not what others do with their time on here .........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" 2's company, 4 is fun but 3 is a crowd.

;-)"

3 has always been fun when I've done it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe people should get coloured bands on the door, gren for players, red for none players, so we know who we can ask lol

No, no, they should have little lights fitted, like taxi cabs. Lit means playing, unlit means off duty.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Some could say that singles n here (fem and make) are spoiling fabs…after all they say that swinging was started between couples….. 2's company, 4 is fun but 3 is a crowd.

;-)"

I quite like a crowd sometimes. What happens when it's 5, 6, 7 and more?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some could say that singles n here (fem and make) are spoiling fabs…after all they say that swinging was started between couples….. 2's company, 4 is fun but 3 is a crowd.

;-)

I quite like a crowd sometimes. What happens when it's 5, 6, 7 and more?"

Don't know but I'd certainly like to find out!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Some could say that singles n here (fem and make) are spoiling fabs…after all they say that swinging was started between couples….. 2's company, 4 is fun but 3 is a crowd.

;-)

I quite like a crowd sometimes. What happens when it's 5, 6, 7 and more?

Don't know but I'd certainly like to find out!

Nice and crowded if you do it right.

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By *obinhood-maidmarionCouple
over a year ago

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no! but what is ruining fabs is all the threads started at bashing other users (no offence to op) but just about every other thread nowadays is designed at having a pop at other users in some way or another.

BORED!!!

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over a year ago

We used to go to a club, although we're a full swop couple we didn't often swop there.

The reasons being that we can be quite shy and self conscious and also that we didn't often find a couple that we BOTH fancied.

Therefore we'd either play with each other or not at all, so we stopped going as it wasn't really worth the expence.

Now when we meet we just meet at ours or theirs and everything is tickety boo!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no! but what is ruining fabs is all the threads started at bashing other users (no offence to op) but just about every other thread nowadays is designed at having a pop at other users in some way or another.

BORED!!!"

.....hence me not bothering as much lately.

It's one thing 'speaking up' for others (but let's be honest ....no one will stick around if they can't handle some of the BS)

....it's another when people play 'Mr or Mrs Niceguy/gal' (shining knight on horseback and all that) whilst attacking others

No intent meant at the OP of this post at all btw.

It'll be lovely seeing a day when everyone respects each other and each others choices and wishes

#wewillbepushingupdaiseswhenthathappens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"that doesn't mean we want to jump in their pants, we have at Libs had great fun just having a giggle and talking....

Having a laugh & talking does help break down any barriers, thus, making it easier to get into their pants

But you miss the point, it is NOT what we want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I blame the Sparticus series on tv.

All the pervs watching that will turn up at clubs thinking they will witness a roman orgy first hand and not have to join in

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Not judging just pointing out an opinion and not knocking peoples choices. Its just the fake swingers that I have a problem with like I have said swinging has become more mainstream and popular over the last few years and a lot of people are wearing the swinger tag like a fashion statement. As in looking to go to places but not joining in.

Shall I stop digging a hole lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonder how many swingers there are that aren't on this site that don't care what other people do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

#wewillbepushingupdaiseswhenthathappens

#dontwejustknowit

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wonder how many swingers there are that aren't on this site that don't care what other people do?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soft swing for me is simply the woman in a couple wanting to put a show on for there fella!! Woman on woman and sex with own partner.... No thank you lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BORED!!!

.....hence me not bothering as much lately.

It's one thing 'speaking up' for others (but let's be honest ....no one will stick around if they can't handle some of the BS)

....it's another when people play 'Mr or Mrs Niceguy/gal' (shining knight on horseback and all that) whilst attacking others

No intent meant at the OP of this post at all btw.

It'll be lovely seeing a day when everyone respects each other and each others choices and wishes

#wewillbepushingupdaiseswhenthathappens

If everyone respected everyone else's opinions and choices and wishes...

what the heck would we talk about??!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

BORED!!!

.....hence me not bothering as much lately.

It's one thing 'speaking up' for others (but let's be honest ....no one will stick around if they can't handle some of the BS)

....it's another when people play 'Mr or Mrs Niceguy/gal' (shining knight on horseback and all that) whilst attacking others

No intent meant at the OP of this post at all btw.

It'll be lovely seeing a day when everyone respects each other and each others choices and wishes

#wewillbepushingupdaiseswhenthathappens

If everyone respected everyone else's opinions and choices and wishes...

what the heck would we talk about??!!

Exactly and you know me I love a good discussion/debate x

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over a year ago

The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

To watch perhaps - fair enough , or to see if it's for you ? Again that's fair enough but to regularly go and merely socialise and pretend you are a swinger ? No , that's just plain wrong - you can do that at your local or any vanilla club !

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have noticed that less couples seem to be playing in clubs.Often, the " couples rooms" are not well used.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem is that u dont get many couples that both fit ur taste, n how can u say to a couple can we borrow ur man / lady

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them ."

What if you go to a club and there's no one there who you fancy, or that fancies you?

We wont play with anyone just because we are in a club.

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

You only need to look at the regular moaning profile status's and there's a theme to them. They usually get posted by people who are "not too easy on the eye" shall we say. These are usually the people moaning that no one wants to shag them, and to be honest, they've only got to look in the mirror to see the reason why.

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

What if you go to a club and there's no one there who you fancy, or that fancies you?

We wont play with anyone just because we are in a club.

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

My mirror broke.

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

What if you go to a club and there's no one there who you fancy, or that fancies you?

We wont play with anyone just because we are in a club.

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

We don't just play with anyone either. But we wouldn't play softswap either.

And as for you coming on here making out people who.moan are in the majority ugly id bang out of order. And to be honest a little rich. We don't portray ourselves to be stunning but we would never ever be so disrespectful towards anyone. Shame on you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if you go to a club and there's no one there who you fancy, or that fancies you?

We wont play with anyone just because we are in a club.

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

My mirror broke.

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By *encarolCouple
over a year ago

Tyneside

Each to their own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely the whole point of swinging and clubs is that everyone can do it in the way that suits them. If their way isn't your way then just do your own thing and others can do the same.

I want to spend my time having fun, not worrying what everyone else is doing or not doing !

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

What if you go to a club and there's no one there who you fancy, or that fancies you?

We wont play with anyone just because we are in a club.

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

We will not play for the sake of it - infact twice in the last fortnight we have left without playing as there was no one we fancied .

As for the comments about moaners and mirrors - that's just disrespectful , unnecessary and plain rude - shame on you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

Phew, thats not a problem for me then. I cut out picutres of far more attractive guys and stick them to all my mirrors.

Yours,

Happily deluded.

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

What if you go to a club and there's no one there who you fancy, or that fancies you?

We wont play with anyone just because we are in a club.

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

We will not play for the sake of it - infact twice in the last fortnight we have left without playing as there was no one we fancied .

As for the comments about moaners and mirrors - that's just disrespectful , unnecessary and plain rude - shame on you

Not to me it's not. The thread's gone a bit off topic and my comment is in no way directed at the OP, but it's my opinion and like I said, the evidence is there for all to see. You've had your say, which you are entitled too so we'll just agree to disagree

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

What if you go to a club and there's no one there who you fancy, or that fancies you?

We wont play with anyone just because we are in a club.

All this bollocks about not being "real swingers" just because you wont drop'em for anyone is just laughable.

We will not play for the sake of it - infact twice in the last fortnight we have left without playing as there was no one we fancied .

As for the comments about moaners and mirrors - that's just disrespectful , unnecessary and plain rude - shame on you

I expected when I.looked at your profile to see 2 super models. I think your own opinion maybe super inflated about yourselves. Your are disrespectful and obviously have a very very high opinion of yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course you are entitled to your opinion , and indeed to make derogatory comments .

We just fail to see the need to make such comments on a public forum - whoever they are directed at ?

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over a year ago

"Of course you are entitled to your opinion , and indeed to make derogatory comments .

We just fail to see the need to make such comments on a public forum - whoever they are directed at ?

Massive plus 1

there is a great saying we like.

Don't go throwing stones if you.live in a glass house.

Like I sat we never portray to be stunners but its obvious the mirrors in some posters rooms have been purchased from a fun house in blackpool

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them ."

The point is we pay our members fee and the cost of entry, so therefore it is entirely up to us if we don't get involved in any play with over people.

We can't go to a normal club and sit around in my sexy underwear, well I could but then it would definitely bring unwanted attention!

We also would not be able to have open conversations about sex, or preferences without having to look over our shoulder to make sure no one else could hear!

It is the whole vibe and atmosphere that we enjoy and if we don't find anyone we find attractive we won't play.

Just because we are in s swingers club does not mean the instant we walk through the door I should drop my thong down and say who's first

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

The point is we pay our members fee and the cost of entry, so therefore it is entirely up to us if we don't get involved in any play with over people.

We can't go to a normal club and sit around in my sexy underwear, well I could but then it would definitely bring unwanted attention!

We also would not be able to have open conversations about sex, or preferences without having to look over our shoulder to make sure no one else could hear!

It is the whole vibe and atmosphere that we enjoy and if we don't find anyone we find attractive we won't play.

Just because we are in s swingers club does not mean the instant we walk through the door I should drop my thong down and say who's first

That's a very good point - and we stand corrected !

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

The point is we pay our members fee and the cost of entry, so therefore it is entirely up to us if we don't get involved in any play with over people.

We can't go to a normal club and sit around in my sexy underwear, well I could but then it would definitely bring unwanted attention!

We also would not be able to have open conversations about sex, or preferences without having to look over our shoulder to make sure no one else could hear!

It is the whole vibe and atmosphere that we enjoy and if we don't find anyone we find attractive we won't play.

Just because we are in s swingers club does not mean the instant we walk through the door I should drop my thong down and say who's first

You are right. If there is someone doing something that isn't what we want we pass them by. But as one poster on here as said. The people who moan about meets are on the whole, mingers.

People need to tale their heads out of there own arsed and looking at everything they agree with and do as the only way to swing.

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over a year ago

P.s

I'm not a bit dim with my spelling lol its this predictive text malarkey.

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over a year ago

"The reason we only play in clubs is because by and large most folk there are up for some fun .

There tend not to be so many fakes and time wasters and choice and variety are the spice of life .

We agree with shaz , that if you go to a club with no intention of playing you are spoiling it for those , like us , who go for one reason - to play !

What is the point ?

As for soft swing - that's personal choice and we respect that as long as we know before we go off to a room with them .

The point is we pay our members fee and the cost of entry, so therefore it is entirely up to us if we don't get involved in any play with over people.

We can't go to a normal club and sit around in my sexy underwear, well I could but then it would definitely bring unwanted attention!

We also would not be able to have open conversations about sex, or preferences without having to look over our shoulder to make sure no one else could hear!

It is the whole vibe and atmosphere that we enjoy and if we don't find anyone we find attractive we won't play.

Just because we are in s swingers club does not mean the instant we walk through the door I should drop my thong down and say who's first

You are right. If there is someone doing something that isn't what we want we pass them by. But as one poster on here as said. The people who moan about meets are on the whole, mingers.

People need to tale their heads out of there own arsed and looking at everything they agree with and do as the only way to swing. "

I quite like my head up my arse