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"Not really. Everyone has a different idea of what it means. If their idea is different to ours we're just incompatible" That is very true and a fair point. Are you active on the Fet Scene? I'd say that side of the house maybe a little better for finding what you. Simply because it maybe a place to get good recommendations and check out credentials from others. Or fet events offer a safe place to try before you buy (so to speak), explore and get inspiration. Although that side of the house is not free of people who unwarrantedly talk big. Unfortunately the search for someone that is good, matches your particular instests and expectations is not easy. | |||
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"Not really. Everyone has a different idea of what it means. If their idea is different to ours we're just incompatible That is very true and a fair point. Are you active on the Fet Scene? I'd say that side of the house maybe a little better for finding what you. Simply because it maybe a place to get good recommendations and check out credentials from others. Or fet events offer a safe place to try before you buy (so to speak), explore and get inspiration. Although that side of the house is not free of people who unwarrantedly talk big. Unfortunately the search for someone that is good, matches your particular instests and expectations is not easy. " No we're not active on the fet scene. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Not really. Everyone has a different idea of what it means. If their idea is different to ours we're just incompatible That is very true and a fair point. Are you active on the Fet Scene? I'd say that side of the house maybe a little better for finding what you. Simply because it maybe a place to get good recommendations and check out credentials from others. Or fet events offer a safe place to try before you buy (so to speak), explore and get inspiration. Although that side of the house is not free of people who unwarrantedly talk big. Unfortunately the search for someone that is good, matches your particular instests and expectations is not easy. " Thank you for the advice. I'll definitely look into it. | |||
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"They might consider you a fake sub for not doing it how they like it Isn’t it all down to preferences" I'm not saying I'm the best and my way is the only way. It just frustrates me as I think it could be so much better. Of course people want different things, I just find it frustrating that it is always the same kind of doms I seem to find on here. | |||
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"I keep getting disappointed that men have misconceptions or misunderstand how to be a dom. Most seem to think that it's about them, what they want etc. Obviously some of it is but it is so much more than what they think and the rewards are so not appealing you wouldn't want to please them in the first place. Anyone else finds that?" Sounds like you may want a soft Dom. | |||
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"I keep getting disappointed that men have misconceptions or misunderstand how to be a dom. Most seem to think that it's about them, what they want etc. Obviously some of it is but it is so much more than what they think and the rewards are so not appealing you wouldn't want to please them in the first place. Anyone else finds that?" Yes, me! And I disagree with the concept that thinking it's all about the man is just a preference. No, it's selfish and misogynist. Disguised as "I'm a Dom and you need to do what I say". Submission can't be taken or demanded. It's a discussion, a negotiation, a contract if you like. | |||
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"NiceCouple beat me to the comment. Nowhere is better to find a kink partner, there will be the same percentage of unacceptable candidates in more dedicated spaces. I have been to munches where there was a lot of predatory behaviour. " Hence we're not on the fet scene ![]() | |||
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"I keep getting disappointed that men have misconceptions or misunderstand how to be a dom. Most seem to think that it's about them, what they want etc. Obviously some of it is but it is so much more than what they think and the rewards are so not appealing you wouldn't want to please them in the first place. Anyone else finds that? Yes, me! And I disagree with the concept that thinking it's all about the man is just a preference. No, it's selfish and misogynist. Disguised as "I'm a Dom and you need to do what I say". Submission can't be taken or demanded. It's a discussion, a negotiation, a contract if you like. " | |||
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"I keep getting disappointed that men have misconceptions or misunderstand how to be a dom. Most seem to think that it's about them, what they want etc. Obviously some of it is but it is so much more than what they think and the rewards are so not appealing you wouldn't want to please them in the first place. Anyone else finds that? Yes, me! And I disagree with the concept that thinking it's all about the man is just a preference. No, it's selfish and misogynist. Disguised as "I'm a Dom and you need to do what I say". Submission can't be taken or demanded. It's a discussion, a negotiation, a contract if you like. " Yes! Exactly that! If I'm going to let you push my boundaries, you're going to have to make the effort to know how to get to that point, not just demand I do it! | |||
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"NiceCouple beat me to the comment. Nowhere is better to find a kink partner, there will be the same percentage of unacceptable candidates in more dedicated spaces. I have been to munches where there was a lot of predatory behaviour. Hence we're not on the fet scene ![]() Well we're not either. Mainly because in our experience we find the whole scene a bit pretentious, douchey and serious (in terms of attitudes rather than safety if that makes sense). Granted that is our personal opinion of the scene in general, no offence to anyone on the scene. We like our kink but the scene is not for us. However I stand by it maybe a good place for OP to cast her net. We have seen a bit and know some on the scene. There are many on the seen who are good and may offer what OP is looking for and others who can share experience, advice and maybe recommendations. But like I said many unwarrantedly talk a big game. So you still need to be conscientious when looking, that goes for everywhere. But I'd say it's definitely a place to widen the net and hopefully increase chances of success. After all there are many on the fet scene who aren't on the swingers scene. | |||
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"They might consider you a fake sub for not doing it how they like it Isn’t it all down to preferences I'm not saying I'm the best and my way is the only way. It just frustrates me as I think it could be so much better. Of course people want different things, I just find it frustrating that it is always the same kind of doms I seem to find on here." "Always the same kind of doms .." Well lady, you pick them so perhaps you need to look at your selection criteria? If I have learnt anything from my time in Fab, now and in the past, it is no two people are alike, no two women want the same play and the only way to get anything like you want is to tell them. So I suggest during the chat stage you tell them what you want. ![]() | |||
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"NiceCouple beat me to the comment. Nowhere is better to find a kink partner, there will be the same percentage of unacceptable candidates in more dedicated spaces. I have been to munches where there was a lot of predatory behaviour. Hence we're not on the fet scene ![]() I've come from the Fet scene. I have some lovely friends from there but I'd have to agree it can be quite protocol-heavy and theoretical at times. And non-monogamy is not standard by any means! | |||
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"Yes. Too many men think it's about barking orders and pushing boundaries. It's annoying." Well, may I make a suggestion to all forumites. Rather than criticise men or women on here for their incompetence put down what you like to have in Dom play. Then we can all get to understand it better and hopefully improve. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"What I set out below is my view but there are alternative views available. You get the same comments made by OP on the other site that can't be mentioned. I have always felt the comments complaining about Doms and subs fall into the same category as the comments "People don't understand cuckolding" or " There are no real bulls",or "There are no real swingers". Finding compatible partners is always difficult, but in the kink/fetish world provided in the relationship there is genuine consent that can be freely withdrawn, it does not make the Dom a bad Dom because in the sub's view the Dom is selfish. It just makes the Dom not the one for that sub. Going out and about you see plenty of relationships where one party is selfish but somehow it works. The longer I am in the scene and talk to people, I am not sure how helpful it is saying that certain people don't understand D/S. I think it is better to appreciate that finding compatible people in this scene is difficult. I know many subs that took a long time to find a compatible partner, and others that still have not. However, now lockdown is easing, it is better to enjoy all the other aspects of the scene. I can't say you would find a Dom, but you will make friends and have fun. " I hear what you’re saying, but like anything in life, there are people who just don’t understand it. This doesn’t mean they can’t gain an understanding though. There are also some people who purely use the title to abuse, and in my book, that makes them not suitable for anyone. | |||
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"NiceCouple beat me to the comment. Nowhere is better to find a kink partner, there will be the same percentage of unacceptable candidates in more dedicated spaces. I have been to munches where there was a lot of predatory behaviour. Hence we're not on the fet scene ![]() It is rare thankfully. Or at least in my experience. | |||
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"What I set out below is my view but there are alternative views available. You get the same comments made by OP on the other site that can't be mentioned. I have always felt the comments complaining about Doms and subs fall into the same category as the comments "People don't understand cuckolding" or " There are no real bulls",or "There are no real swingers". Finding compatible partners is always difficult, but in the kink/fetish world provided in the relationship there is genuine consent that can be freely withdrawn, it does not make the Dom a bad Dom because in the sub's view the Dom is selfish. It just makes the Dom not the one for that sub. Going out and about you see plenty of relationships where one party is selfish but somehow it works. The longer I am in the scene and talk to people, I am not sure how helpful it is saying that certain people don't understand D/S. I think it is better to appreciate that finding compatible people in this scene is difficult. I know many subs that took a long time to find a compatible partner, and others that still have not. However, now lockdown is easing, it is better to enjoy all the other aspects of the scene. I can't say you would find a Dom, but you will make friends and have fun. I hear what you’re saying, but like anything in life, there are people who just don’t understand it. This doesn’t mean they can’t gain an understanding though. There are also some people who purely use the title to abuse, and in my book, that makes them not suitable for anyone. " Exactly that! ![]() | |||
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"I keep getting disappointed that men have misconceptions or misunderstand how to be a dom. Most seem to think that it's about them, what they want etc. Obviously some of it is but it is so much more than what they think and the rewards are so not appealing you wouldn't want to please them in the first place. Anyone else finds that? Yes, me! And I disagree with the concept that thinking it's all about the man is just a preference. No, it's selfish and misogynist. Disguised as "I'm a Dom and you need to do what I say". Submission can't be taken or demanded. It's a discussion, a negotiation, a contract if you like. Yes! Exactly that! If I'm going to let you push my boundaries, you're going to have to make the effort to know how to get to that point, not just demand I do it!" ![]() | |||
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"I keep getting disappointed that men have misconceptions or misunderstand how to be a dom. Most seem to think that it's about them, what they want etc. Obviously some of it is but it is so much more than what they think and the rewards are so not appealing you wouldn't want to please them in the first place. Anyone else finds that? Yes, me! And I disagree with the concept that thinking it's all about the man is just a preference. No, it's selfish and misogynist. Disguised as "I'm a Dom and you need to do what I say". Submission can't be taken or demanded. It's a discussion, a negotiation, a contract if you like. Yes! Exactly that! If I'm going to let you push my boundaries, you're going to have to make the effort to know how to get to that point, not just demand I do it! ![]() I’m not keen on the term alpha, because it seems to place one sub above another. | |||
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"What I set out below is my view but there are alternative views available. You get the same comments made by OP on the other site that can't be mentioned. I have always felt the comments complaining about Doms and subs fall into the same category as the comments "People don't understand cuckolding" or " There are no real bulls",or "There are no real swingers". Finding compatible partners is always difficult, but in the kink/fetish world provided in the relationship there is genuine consent that can be freely withdrawn, it does not make the Dom a bad Dom because in the sub's view the Dom is selfish. It just makes the Dom not the one for that sub. Going out and about you see plenty of relationships where one party is selfish but somehow it works. The longer I am in the scene and talk to people, I am not sure how helpful it is saying that certain people don't understand D/S. I think it is better to appreciate that finding compatible people in this scene is difficult. I know many subs that took a long time to find a compatible partner, and others that still have not. However, now lockdown is easing, it is better to enjoy all the other aspects of the scene. I can't say you would find a Dom, but you will make friends and have fun. I hear what you’re saying, but like anything in life, there are people who just don’t understand it. This doesn’t mean they can’t gain an understanding though. There are also some people who purely use the title to abuse, and in my book, that makes them not suitable for anyone. " My last comment on this topic as I have a rule I only give three responses at the most. For me the only true signifier of abuse in a kink sense is a lack of consent. Everyone's view of abuse is different. I came off the Afrocentric forums because they believe that raceplay (and I am no fan of raceplay) even between consenting adults is abuse. The feminists and lot of the public see (D/S as abuse. I don't see D/S as being tied to sex, there are many that do. Some people like severe treatment others see it as abuse and people who like that treatment can no longer put their picture on display, even on fetish sites. Therefore the abuse argument has to be used very carefully because to some third party another person's kinky pleasure is abusive. Provided the Dom says upfront what their idea of dominance is the sub can say no. If the Dom lies that is not genuine consent. You probably know about Gorean relationships, and Master and Sl@ve relationships would you consider they are abuse? I am not looking for an answer I am suggesting lines of thought. | |||
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" We've known and still know a few Dom's and although not our thing it does and has made for some very interesting conversations regarding being a Dom and even now most say that most of the self proclaimed Doms aren't at all and some have some serious and not so serious issues with either females and even males or are working out issues about a Ex ?? what we can make out mostly they are confused about what makes a good Dom and all down mutual consent/respect and only being told what or how to do straight away isn't being a Dom as it's about 100% trust and getting to know the sub and what they want as much as what the Dom wants ?? but we are guessing it carries little sub genres but if anyone proclaiming to be a Dom doesn't respect your wishes or even ignores them they aren't truly a Dom .." Definatly this I just asked a sub to discus their needs and they have disappeared when you do it right the fakes fade away because it's not as simple as it seems | |||
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"I’m not keen on the term alpha, because it seems to place one sub above another. " I'd never seen it used in this way. I've only previously seen it used in an actual hierarchical structure (ie a poly house where there was an alpha sub, who was higher in status than other subs) | |||
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"I keep getting disappointed that men have misconceptions or misunderstand how to be a dom. Most seem to think that it's about them, what they want etc. Obviously some of it is but it is so much more than what they think and the rewards are so not appealing you wouldn't want to please them in the first place. Anyone else finds that?" I'm a adequately versed dom but I am out of your age range. Experience counts do you increase your age limit every year. | |||
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"I’m not keen on the term alpha, because it seems to place one sub above another. I'd never seen it used in this way. I've only previously seen it used in an actual hierarchical structure (ie a poly house where there was an alpha sub, who was higher in status than other subs)" But surely this is the definition of what I said? | |||
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"What are you looking for a border line abusive relationship or someone to come around once a month slap your handcuffs and f*** you in the ass... ![]() If that's what you think domination and submission is, you don't have to bring your prejudices to the thread? | |||
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"I'm a adequately versed dom but I am out of your age range. Experience counts do you increase your age limit every year." Age does not equate to experience, someone might have found kink 2 years ago but be 15 years older than me... They are older but far less experienced. So if you're outside someone's age range it's likely that they have other reasons for selecting that. | |||
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"I’m not keen on the term alpha, because it seems to place one sub above another. I'd never seen it used in this way. I've only previously seen it used in an actual hierarchical structure (ie a poly house where there was an alpha sub, who was higher in status than other subs) But surely this is the definition of what I said?" But if someone negotiates and choses that structure it's their definition, their kink. If that was what they had consented to, why would I pass judgement on it? I personally wouldn't use the term in that way (although I have been in loose hierarchical structures before, we haven't used those terms) and you could always decline to be involved with a scenario. | |||
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"I'm a adequately versed dom but I am out of your age range. Experience counts do you increase your age limit every year. Age does not equate to experience, someone might have found kink 2 years ago but be 15 years older than me... They are older but far less experienced. So if you're outside someone's age range it's likely that they have other reasons for selecting that. " I was talking to the sub do you mind. | |||
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"Probably the key attribute for anyone who classes themselves as ‘dominant’ that ensures they provide satisfaction to those who submit to them is a high level of emotional intelligence. If you consider that to be the case, then it’s easy to see why so many ‘dominants’ here fail to satisfy." Agree. Emotional intelligence is the key. And it's very tricky to find on fab | |||
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"I was talking to the sub do you mind." I do mind as it happens, which is why I replied on the open forum. I just happened to point out the glaring flaw in your argument. And it's been a while since I read the rules but wasn't there something in there about not using the forum to get around message blocks? Or is that just statuses? | |||
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"I was talking to the sub do you mind. I do mind as it happens, which is why I replied on the open forum. I just happened to point out the glaring flaw in your argument. And it's been a while since I read the rules but wasn't there something in there about not using the forum to get around message blocks? Or is that just statuses? " have you ever thought of yourself has dom? | |||
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"I was talking to the sub do you mind. I do mind as it happens, which is why I replied on the open forum. I just happened to point out the glaring flaw in your argument. And it's been a while since I read the rules but wasn't there something in there about not using the forum to get around message blocks? Or is that just statuses? have you ever thought of yourself has dom?" I am dominant. I'm also submissive. I have the best of it all given I'm a switch. Being dominant/sadistic or submissive/masochist for me is about the dynamic and connection I have with someone. | |||
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"I suspect there are a few that are not Doms, some who could be, but are inexperienced as to what this means, and some who have a link but don't know what to call it. Eg, I tend to take a softer approach to control. Not really physical per se, but in charge. Does that make me a Dom or not ? I don't know. But I wouldn't be right for a masochistic sub who wants marks. " Domination is as much about the mind as anything else. I specifically say on my profile I'm looking for a top rather than a dominant, because I'm looking for the physical elements of SM play over Ds | |||
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"I suspect there are a few that are not Doms, some who could be, but are inexperienced as to what this means, and some who have a link but don't know what to call it. Eg, I tend to take a softer approach to control. Not really physical per se, but in charge. Does that make me a Dom or not ? I don't know. But I wouldn't be right for a masochistic sub who wants marks. " But a submissive may enjoy marks with one partner without needing it every time - it's the connection between two people that's important. It all flows from that. I can do without lots of kinky activities - I can't do without that connection . | |||
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"I suspect there are a few that are not Doms, some who could be, but are inexperienced as to what this means, and some who have a link but don't know what to call it. Eg, I tend to take a softer approach to control. Not really physical per se, but in charge. Does that make me a Dom or not ? I don't know. But I wouldn't be right for a masochistic sub who wants marks. Domination is as much about the mind as anything else. I specifically say on my profile I'm looking for a top rather than a dominant, because I'm looking for the physical elements of SM play over Ds" ![]() | |||
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