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"Ok, so here goes... Why is it that when you profile mentions that you might have a degree of bi-curiosity that most people run a mile. Do they think that we all have the plague or don’t understand that not everyone is as open-minded as us and that certain things are ‘off limits’? However you look at it, no means no so why is it such a big deal? " You are so right with this. There is a big proportion of homophobic men on here for some reason. Maybe all the bi-guys are on gay websites! | |||
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"Ok, so here goes... Why is it that when you profile mentions that you might have a degree of bi-curiosity that most people run a mile. Do they think that we all have the plague or don’t understand that not everyone is as open-minded as us and that certain things are ‘off limits’? However you look at it, no means no so why is it such a big deal? You are so right with this. There is a big proportion of homophobic men on here for some reason. Maybe all the bi-guys are on gay websites! " erm, just because someone isn't interested jhn a bi-sexual encounter doesn't mean they are homophobic! It just means they are hetrosexual! | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" sorry, but what a lot of pish! | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" We are not all Bi .... What a stupid comment... How can you speak for people you don't know and make such a sweeping comment? As for the OP's question there are plenty of people out there who are bi and would be willing to meet as will there be plenty of straight couples that are not bothered about you being bi. It is personal choice just respect other people's and move on. | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" Is that right? You maybe confused...not all of us are! | |||
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"comes back to the old saying. dont knock it until youve tried it." Oh please! | |||
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""Most ppl run a mile" ....disagree as there's loads of cpls who state in their profile:single men only contact us if you Bi or Bi-curious! Plenty for all different preferences here on Fab " Exactly, its all about preferences, hopefully i might match up to some! hehe | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" Sorry but that is not true. Some people are straight. Some people are bi and some people are gay. Cali | |||
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"I had to block guys from msging me due to the amount of msges asking if i 'wanted to know what a cock feels like'!! I already know what one feels like, seeing i have one!! But it brings me to a point! Why do bi guys, (and so called 'straight' guys feel the need to msg another straight guy asking if they are curious? Makes no sense to me! " A straight male friend of ours says he gets messages like that too. Huge bug bear of ours when we get messages from straight guys wanting to play bi with mr notts. just be honest is all we say. To the OP, I can only see in your profile that you would meet TV's as any kind of intimation that you are bi. Your profile says straight apart from that.... My message to the so called "straight guys out there is, yes by lying you open up your chances of meeting straight couples, but do you think bi couples would message you? .. We certainly wouldn't. Oh and I think by lying it is unfair to straight couples who don't want to meet bi guys. You're basically taking away their right to choose... Not good. | |||
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"Ok, so here goes... Why is it that when you profile mentions that you might have a degree of bi-curiosity that most people run a mile. Do they think that we all have the plague or don’t understand that not everyone is as open-minded as us and that certain things are ‘off limits’? However you look at it, no means no so why is it such a big deal? " not sure it is, weve only ever been turned down once because of it, and thats fine everyone is allowed their choice, as for the amount of people who lie about beeing bi well different story. if a straight man askes us for a meet saying that hes bi but doesnt put it on his profile so as not to put people off. well he lieing to one of us!!! | |||
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" Don't worry about the ones that are bi-phobic as you wouldn't want to meet them anyway." It not being bi phobic or homophobic just because you don't want to meet someone of a particular sexual orientation it's just personal choice ffs | |||
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" Don't worry about the ones that are bi-phobic as you wouldn't want to meet them anyway. It not being bi phobic or homophobic just because you don't want to meet someone of a particular sexual orientation it's just personal choice ffs" Some people are bi-phobic. Some people are homophobic. Some people choose not to play with some people because that is their choice. 'ffs' | |||
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"half the time though, straight listed guys are bi anyway, so do you truly know? And because someone is bi does that mean they will always play with the same sex? I think not! " Exactly! You never know..... That 'straight' bloke seeing to someone's missus might be having a crafty peek at the bloke's cock and getting off on it. Saying that a bi bloke will fancy every man he meets is like saying a straight bloke will fancy every woman he meets. | |||
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"half the time though, straight listed guys are bi anyway, so do you truly know? And because someone is bi does that mean they will always play with the same sex? I think not! Exactly! You never know..... That 'straight' bloke seeing to someone's missus might be having a crafty peek at the bloke's cock and getting off on it. Saying that a bi bloke will fancy every man he meets is like saying a straight bloke will fancy every woman he meets. " +1 totally agree | |||
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"I can imagine it must be frustrating for bi men to be shunned when they are honest. Truthfully, however, there are many, many str8 men claiming to be bi curious in the hopes of joining in threesomes. We now make a point of having purely man on man action at our threesomes before wifey joins in. Those men fibbing will soon come unstuck...... Or discover they are more than a little curious!!" Now I actually like that, m on m as the guys partner watches, hearing how much she is enjoying the show as we play and she watches his cock sliding in and out of my mouth! Hehe | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" sorry got to disagree with that we are not all bi. i can quite honestly say i have never found the male form attractive or had thoughts about it each to their own and have happiness in whichever form it takes | |||
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"The only problem I have with bi men is that there aren't enough willing to play with me! " lol know that feeling too | |||
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"The only problem I have with bi men is that there aren't enough willing to play with me! lol know that feeling too " You only have to ask.... | |||
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"The only problem I have with bi men is that there aren't enough willing to play with me! " Or with each other lol | |||
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"Were both bi and very clear about it on our profile. That still doesn't stop us getting chat PMs from straight guys or winks from couples who say they are straight. When asked, they admit to being curious or possibly experienced, but feel awkward in stating as such. Thats why we go to Chams on a Monday because we all know what the score is." That's refreshing to know about the bi night at chams! Have been to the bi night at Abfab which is good but you still find yourself wading through a few straight changers! Which I don't understand lol. I do love my bi fun, especially with bi couples where one at least is dominant! Can be such a naughty boy with them! Hehe It's just a shame so many aren't honest about it and feel the need to cover up this side. And its a shame others are judgemental of those that are bi! | |||
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"We are not put off, if a guy is listed as bi or bi curious. However we do have messages from straight guys who within a couple of messages say they are bi, as long as they are upfront about it. But OP, you do have straight, and no mention of curiosity, and a verification from a bloke, so that in itself is confusing." I do tweak my profile depending upon the mood that I’m in ….. PS you have some very appealing pics. on your profile | |||
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"We are not put off, if a guy is listed as bi or bi curious. However we do have messages from straight guys who within a couple of messages say they are bi, as long as they are upfront about it. But OP, you do have straight, and no mention of curiosity, and a verification from a bloke, so that in itself is confusing. I do tweak my profile depending upon the mood that I’m in ….. PS you have some very appealing pics. on your profile " Fair enough and thanks | |||
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"half the time though, straight listed guys are bi anyway, so do you truly know? And because someone is bi does that mean they will always play with the same sex? I think not! Exactly! You never know..... That 'straight' bloke seeing to someone's missus might be having a crafty peek at the bloke's cock and getting off on it. Saying that a bi bloke will fancy every man he meets is like saying a straight bloke will fancy every woman he meets. " Exactly! Both of these comments are spot on! Just because my profile says 'bi' doesn't mean I only want to meet men or bi couples. In fact, I almost prefer meeting straight couples and get off on the fact that we're both pleasing her! Sex is way too fluid to pin labels on! | |||
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"'I do tweak my profile depending upon the mood that I’m in …..' So you lie depending on who you are trying to shag at that present time ?" Given that I have a degree of curiosity rather than be out-right bi-sexual I would argue that I’m not lying if my mood is overwhelmingly heterosexual only, hence the ‘switch’ | |||
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"One other point and nothing to do with this thread you need to "lose" the Sydney blah blah bit " Sydney has been deleted ~ thanks for taking the time to review my text. | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" Errr, speak for yourself some of us are actually straight... | |||
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"And its a shame others are judgemental of those that are bi! " So, to have a preference that excludes you = judgmental?!! Some people REALLY need to get over themselves. | |||
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"Ok, so here goes... Why is it that when you profile mentions that you might have a degree of bi-curiosity that most people run a mile. Do they think that we all have the plague or don’t understand that not everyone is as open-minded as us and that certain things are ‘off limits’? However you look at it, no means no so why is it such a big deal? " Im only looking for bi men but its so hard so for me if ur profile mentions your bi im instantly interested | |||
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"'I do tweak my profile depending upon the mood that I’m in …..' So you lie depending on who you are trying to shag at that present time ?" De rigeur for some it appears. | |||
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"'I do tweak my profile depending upon the mood that I’m in …..' So you lie depending on who you are trying to shag at that present time ?" Must admit, reading between the lines I thought something similar myself! Lol | |||
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"And its a shame others are judgemental of those that are bi! So, to have a preference that excludes you = judgmental?!! Some people REALLY need to get over themselves. " Well twisted but it is nothing to do with people being excluded, it's to do with people judging and thinking all bi guys want to fuck every man they see or at least suck their cock. I could play with a straight couple ans have the respect that I wouldn't touch his cock etc. Would you fuck every guy on God's earth? I think not so hop down off your high horse chook | |||
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"'I do tweak my profile depending upon the mood that I’m in …..' So you lie depending on who you are trying to shag at that present time ? Given that I have a degree of curiosity rather than be out-right bi-sexual I would argue that I’m not lying if my mood is overwhelmingly heterosexual only, hence the ‘switch’" I change my profile depending on the mood I'm in too. Doesn't mean I'm lying to try to get someone to shag me though. Aren't we free to change our minds now and then about what we're looking for? | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" | |||
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"'I do tweak my profile depending upon the mood that I’m in …..' So you lie depending on who you are trying to shag at that present time ?" There should be some parts of the profile which can't be 'tweaked' except by an admin. Such as sexual preference, which would stop the liars, changing their profile from one minute to the next. | |||
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"There should be some parts of the profile which can't be 'tweaked' except by an admin. Such as sexual preference, which would stop the liars, changing their profile from one minute to the next. " Agreed We have met straight guys in the past only to find out at a later date they only changed there profile to say straight to meet us. | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" What a load of shite! | |||
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"I have met a few bi guys and I have to say they give a better bj than most women" How come you had a thread a couple of weeks ago asking whether you should try "bi" and then posted that you had chickened out ? | |||
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"I have met a few bi guys and I have to say they give a better bj than most women How come you had a thread a couple of weeks ago asking whether you should try "bi" and then posted that you had chickened out ? " Exactly " a couple of weeks ago". I recently met a couple of really cool guys at their place and it was a great time | |||
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"We've blocked straight guys simply because the myriad of threads like this prove they can't be trusted." Yet there are multiple responses to this post from people who have met 'straight' couples only to find out they are both bi. A bi man in a couple is acceptable to you yet a single bi man is not? Me thinks you subscribe to the view that single bi men can't control themselves. As for the replies later in this post, no bloody surprise men change their sexual orientations. They can't keep up with the people changing their minds! If my meet successes depended on whether people found me icky or not I assure you I would be changing my preferences too. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. | |||
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"I have met a few bi guys and I have to say they give a better bj than most women How come you had a thread a couple of weeks ago asking whether you should try "bi" and then posted that you had chickened out ? Exactly " a couple of weeks ago". I recently met a couple of really cool guys at their place and it was a great time" Just checking However still a generalisation | |||
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"We've blocked straight guys simply because the myriad of threads like this prove they can't be trusted. Yet there are multiple responses to this post from people who have met 'straight' couples only to find out they are both bi. A bi man in a couple is acceptable to you yet a single bi man is not? Me thinks you subscribe to the view that single bi men can't control themselves. As for the replies later in this post, no bloody surprise men change their sexual orientations. They can't keep up with the people changing their minds! If my meet successes depended on whether people found me icky or not I assure you I would be changing my preferences too. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. " I was wondering how the blocked "straight guys" surely they mean single guys didn't think you could block by sexual orientation? .....YET! Or have they somehow found a way to allow bi males through? Hmmmm | |||
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" just because someone isn't interested jhn a bi-sexual encounter doesn't mean they are homophobic! It just means they are hetrosexual! " Couldnt agree more. Personal choice is paramount. I think suggesting straight people who dont want to get involved in gay/bi sex have a phobia is political correctness at its worse. P isnt into guys whasoever but he 1. doesnt have a phobia ( or any fear never mind a phobia) and 2. has no problem with gay/bi guys - he just doesnt want to have sex with one! PS. He doesnt want to have sex with next doors Budgerigar..doesnt mean he is Orthornophobic On the other hand I do enjoy a bit of bi fun xxxxxxx | |||
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"We r all bi believe it r nt its just whether we act on it r nt is down to each individual man r woman its our nature as humans to be inquisitive xx" No Ma'am, there is nothing bi about me. I dont find nothing sexually attractive about a female and never have | |||
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"I have met a few bi guys and I have to say they give a better bj than most women How come you had a thread a couple of weeks ago asking whether you should try "bi" and then posted that you had chickened out ? " hhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa thats sooo funny | |||
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"I'm not homophobic, biophobic(??) but ut just ain't my bag. I dont get turned on by it. Its a personal choice, chill out. My profile clearly states that I'm not interested in bi men ut does that stop them messaging be? And when I politely point out that there profile says they are bi, they say it was a mistake! Yeah right. People need to be more honest on here and read peoples profiles properly!! Rant over!!" Your profile is a massive, big block of text, which makes it difficult to read and pick out the no-bi part but I understand how frustrated you are. I've just blocked a couple who had the guy as straight on the profile, yet the message said he was bi. | |||
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"I don't really understand why single women are blocking bi single men? Or saying states clearly on my profile etc... Because surely if they are contacting you, as a single woman and a single man, it doesn't matter if they are bi or not? Because nothing bisexual would happen on such a meet? " for some it's more than the sum of it's parts because of supposed pre-existing sexual experiences of the Bi male concerned. And it shouldn't be. Wolf | |||
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"I don't really understand why single women are blocking bi single men? Or saying states clearly on my profile etc... Because surely if they are contacting you, as a single woman and a single man, it doesn't matter if they are bi or not? Because nothing bisexual would happen on such a meet? for some it's more than the sum of it's parts because of supposed pre-existing sexual experiences of the Bi male concerned. And it shouldn't be. Wolf" Exactly! Well said that man, ahem Wolf | |||
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"I don't really understand why single women are blocking bi single men? Or saying states clearly on my profile etc... Because surely if they are contacting you, as a single woman and a single man, it doesn't matter if they are bi or not? Because nothing bisexual would happen on such a meet? " Its quite simple really, to some women just the thought of a guy who has had sex with another guy can be a complete turn off sexually and its just not going to happen. No doubt some bi guys, who lie about their sexual preferences, would get a buzz out of deceiving these type of women. Just as they do when they deceive and meet a straight male couple. XXXX | |||
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"I don't really understand why single women are blocking bi single men? Or saying states clearly on my profile etc... Because surely if they are contacting you, as a single woman and a single man, it doesn't matter if they are bi or not? Because nothing bisexual would happen on such a meet? Its quite simple really, to some women just the thought of a guy who has had sex with another guy can be a complete turn off sexually and its just not going to happen. No doubt some bi guys, who lie about their sexual preferences, would get a buzz out of deceiving these type of women. Just as they do when they deceive and meet a straight male couple. XXXX " Ok, but for example (not swinging), you meet a guy, you fall in love, you want to take things further....you talk...discuss things, he says only had 3 sexual lovers before. But he may have had 16, male or female, would it affect you, does what happen in the past make a difference, if even albeit for swingers in between meets? Say a couple for a bi male, where he sucked cock with the male of the couple. And now he wants a meet with a female, how would a bearing on a prior sexual encounter matter? Do we ever really know what people get up to in their private lives, as past is past, and present...eg said meet is all that matters? Or am I just naive? Jxx | |||
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" Ok, but for example (not swinging), you meet a guy, you fall in love, you want to take things further....you talk...discuss things, he says only had 3 sexual lovers before. But he may have had 16, male or female, would it affect you, does what happen in the past make a difference, if even albeit for swingers in between meets? Say a couple for a bi male, where he sucked cock with the male of the couple. And now he wants a meet with a female, how would a bearing on a prior sexual encounter matter? Do we ever really know what people get up to in their private lives, as past is past, and present...eg said meet is all that matters? Or am I just naive? Jxx" Yes it is slightly naive, in as much as a long term relationships should be based on love, trust and honesty, anything less is doomed to failure. BUT....maybe we're just as guilty of naivety, in as much as swinging should be based on trust and honesty also but obviously very rarely is. XXXX | |||
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" Ok, but for example (not swinging), you meet a guy, you fall in love, you want to take things further....you talk...discuss things, he says only had 3 sexual lovers before. But he may have had 16, male or female, would it affect you, does what happen in the past make a difference, if even albeit for swingers in between meets? Say a couple for a bi male, where he sucked cock with the male of the couple. And now he wants a meet with a female, how would a bearing on a prior sexual encounter matter? Do we ever really know what people get up to in their private lives, as past is past, and present...eg said meet is all that matters? Or am I just naive? Jxx Yes it is slightly naive, in as much as a long term relationships should be based on love, trust and honesty, anything less is doomed to failure. BUT....maybe we're just as guilty of naivety, in as much as swinging should be based on trust and honesty also but obviously very rarely is. XXXX" Hey guys, not being pedantic, but even long term relationships, marriages, are as you said based on trust... But at the end of the day, you will judge a person as you find them, be it your long term partner or play buddy and still not always know really what went on prior. I know being a pia | |||
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"Why should swinging be based on trust and honesty? It's just sex. NSA sex isn't the same as marrying someone or spending your life together. " Yes totally agree, however my point being that regardless of swinging or a relationship, past is past... | |||
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"Why should swinging be based on trust and honesty? It's just sex. NSA sex isn't the same as marrying someone or spending your life together. " And the NSA attached phrase should then matter even less whether a person is bi, tried bi, you are there to meet said person, regardless....for the said nsa fun | |||
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"We've blocked straight guys simply because the myriad of threads like this prove they can't be trusted. Yet there are multiple responses to this post from people who have met 'straight' couples only to find out they are both bi. A bi man in a couple is acceptable to you yet a single bi man is not? Me thinks you subscribe to the view that single bi men can't control themselves." A bi guy in a couple is as unacceptable to us as a single bi guy would be. In the past we've chosen our swinging partners very carefully and, because we're only occasional swingers and we can take it or leave it, our meets are few and far between. The people we meet are very like minded and we've become good friends over the years. That's not to say that we haven't been deceived before now but they were found out after a couple of meets and we severed any links we had. They'd lied to us and that was that! Whether a bi guy, single or not, can control himself is of no consequence whatsoever. The fact that he has or has sex with other men is what we find a complete sexual turn off. We have nothing against bi or gay guys whatsoever in a social setting and, despite it being a cliche, we do have friends who are gay guys and have enjoyed gay clubs, so there is no dislike of gay or bi men. It all comes down to respecting each others sexual preferences and not using all manner of excuses for lying to get what you want. XXXX | |||
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"We've blocked straight guys simply because the myriad of threads like this prove they can't be trusted. Yet there are multiple responses to this post from people who have met 'straight' couples only to find out they are both bi. A bi man in a couple is acceptable to you yet a single bi man is not? Me thinks you subscribe to the view that single bi men can't control themselves. A bi guy in a couple is as unacceptable to us as a single bi guy would be. In the past we've chosen our swinging partners very carefully and, because we're only occasional swingers and we can take it or leave it, our meets are few and far between. The people we meet are very like minded and we've become good friends over the years. That's not to say that we haven't been deceived before now but they were found out after a couple of meets and we severed any links we had. They'd lied to us and that was that! Whether a bi guy, single or not, can control himself is of no consequence whatsoever. The fact that he has or has sex with other men is what we find a complete sexual turn off. We have nothing against bi or gay guys whatsoever in a social setting and, despite it being a cliche, we do have friends who are gay guys and have enjoyed gay clubs, so there is no dislike of gay or bi men. It all comes down to respecting each others sexual preferences and not using all manner of excuses for lying to get what you want. XXXX " Completely respect your view and personal preference My oh is straight, but never really worried before on said debate, but been a long day, and I have enquired enough | |||
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"We've blocked straight guys simply because the myriad of threads like this prove they can't be trusted. Yet there are multiple responses to this post from people who have met 'straight' couples only to find out they are both bi. A bi man in a couple is acceptable to you yet a single bi man is not? Me thinks you subscribe to the view that single bi men can't control themselves. A bi guy in a couple is as unacceptable to us as a single bi guy would be. In the past we've chosen our swinging partners very carefully and, because we're only occasional swingers and we can take it or leave it, our meets are few and far between. The people we meet are very like minded and we've become good friends over the years. That's not to say that we haven't been deceived before now but they were found out after a couple of meets and we severed any links we had. They'd lied to us and that was that! Whether a bi guy, single or not, can control himself is of no consequence whatsoever. The fact that he has or has sex with other men is what we find a complete sexual turn off. We have nothing against bi or gay guys whatsoever in a social setting and, despite it being a cliche, we do have friends who are gay guys and have enjoyed gay clubs, so there is no dislike of gay or bi men. It all comes down to respecting each others sexual preferences and not using all manner of excuses for lying to get what you want. XXXX " | |||
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"Why should swinging be based on trust and honesty? It's just sex. NSA sex isn't the same as marrying someone or spending your life together. " So if someone you play with is knowingly riddled with STD's but plays with you anyway, because its only NSA, that's O.K then because as a swinger you didn't trust them to tell you or expect them to be honest anyway? | |||
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"male bi-curiousity is frowned upon because when people are curious they frown " Yes! Hurray!!! Nail on the head | |||
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"male bi-curiousity is frowned upon because when people are curious they frown Yes! Hurray!!! Nail on the head " thanks julie x | |||
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"Surely anyone 'knowingly riddled with STDs' as you say is not going to want to remain riddled with STDs. I don't think anyone knowingly endures STDs when most are eradicated quite easily. Unless you're referring to HIV in which case the up and coming group for spreading this are the misinformed middle-aged swingers indulging in their lost sexual youth. I think to imply that Bisexual individuals are any 'dirtier' than straight individuals would be incorrect. Wolf " Would also show a lack of understanding if they thought such a thing Wolf! | |||
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"male bi-curiousity is frowned upon because when people are curious they frown Yes! Hurray!!! Nail on the head thanks julie x " Well I regularly bang my head at such threads and hey I think you have the answer that I seek! J x | |||
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"Surely anyone 'knowingly riddled with STDs' as you say is not going to want to remain riddled with STDs. I don't think anyone knowingly endures STDs when most are eradicated quite easily. Unless you're referring to HIV in which case the up and coming group for spreading this are the misinformed middle-aged swingers indulging in their lost sexual youth. I think to imply that Bisexual individuals are any 'dirtier' than straight individuals would be incorrect. Wolf " Read the post again. Where does it mention bi or gay men? Where was it implied? We too are as aware of the statistics you quoted as yourself, however the reply was regarding the subject of "trust" and "honesty" in swinging. You will also notice on re reading our previous reply that neither the post we replied to or our reply made any mention of bi, gay guys. The mention of STI's was used just to emphasise the importance of trust and honesty in swinging. Besides, if someone met you, male or female, and gave you an STI that they knew they carried, would it make it all the more palatable just because there may be a cure...........we think not! | |||
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"male bi-curiousity is frowned upon because when people are curious they frown Yes! Hurray!!! Nail on the head thanks julie x Well I regularly bang my head at such threads and hey I think you have the answer that I seek! J x" well if i have anything you seek julie i will surely give it to you | |||
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"Surely anyone 'knowingly riddled with STDs' as you say is not going to want to remain riddled with STDs. I don't think anyone knowingly endures STDs when most are eradicated quite easily. Unless you're referring to HIV in which case the up and coming group for spreading this are the misinformed middle-aged swingers indulging in their lost sexual youth. I think to imply that Bisexual individuals are any 'dirtier' than straight individuals would be incorrect. Wolf Read the post again. Where does it mention bi or gay men? Where was it implied? We too are as aware of the statistics you quoted as yourself, however the reply was regarding the subject of "trust" and "honesty" in swinging. You will also notice on re reading our previous reply that neither the post we replied to or our reply made any mention of bi, gay guys. The mention of STI's was used just to emphasise the importance of trust and honesty in swinging. Besides, if someone met you, male or female, and gave you an STI that they knew they carried, would it make it all the more palatable just because there may be a cure...........we think not! " I know what you meant. No it's not ok for them not to say anything if they are 'riddled with STD's'. But... they might not know. A LOT of people don't bother getting tested as they think that only certain groups of people get STD's... and as they aren't in that group, they think they are safe. So no, I wouldn't trust someone that said they were STD free. I know that's just one example you were giving. For all other examples- married/ bi/ sex with pensioners/ born blonde but now is a brunette or whatever..... it's for each person to decide who they would/ wouldn't play with. I totally agree with what you said about that. But no, no matter what they said I still wouldn't trust them to be honest. It's just sex. Whether I'd still meet them knowing that they could be lying about this or that.... well that's up to me to decide. | |||
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"Surely anyone 'knowingly riddled with STDs' as you say is not going to want to remain riddled with STDs. I don't think anyone knowingly endures STDs when most are eradicated quite easily. Unless you're referring to HIV in which case the up and coming group for spreading this are the misinformed middle-aged swingers indulging in their lost sexual youth. I think to imply that Bisexual individuals are any 'dirtier' than straight individuals would be incorrect. Wolf Read the post again. Where does it mention bi or gay men? Where was it implied? We too are as aware of the statistics you quoted as yourself, however the reply was regarding the subject of "trust" and "honesty" in swinging. You will also notice on re reading our previous reply that neither the post we replied to or our reply made any mention of bi, gay guys. The mention of STI's was used just to emphasise the importance of trust and honesty in swinging. Besides, if someone met you, male or female, and gave you an STI that they knew they carried, would it make it all the more palatable just because there may be a cure...........we think not! " If I'd have wanted to quote your post, I would have used the quote button. If you're aware of what I'd quoted within my post then all well and good - a few more are now too. Trust and Honesty have different values to different people. For me it's the ideal of merely giving one's word and standing by it as a Gentleman. To others such things have a different value. Your mileage may truly vary. 'caveat emptor' comes to mind when considering what you allow to happen to yourself, and what you're prepared to allow others to do. No STD would be made palatable by the idea of having a cure available for it - that's like sticking your hand in the fire and expecting an ED to fix it. OTOH regular testing and fixing of matters relating to sexual health is de rigeur in scene, and therefore to be recommended. Wolf | |||
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" If I'd have wanted to quote your post, I would have used the quote button. " that is what the function is for!! hehe | |||
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