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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

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By *oudLoutishLoverWoman
over a year ago

Colchester

Sexualising race is vile.

I understand that it’s seen as an advantage for guys, on here, but it gives me the shivers. Anyone who asks about my ethnicity claiming it’s ‘hot’, gets a sharp response.

Don’t get me started on the Queen of Spades tattoos…

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By *ittyndCouple
over a year ago

Oldham/Birmingham

This is so unfair !!

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By *ustustwo.1965Couple
over a year ago

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"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

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That is a very fair point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most of these events are interracial. No race is excluded at all. What happens is that one race is highlighted or promoted more. Plays on the stereotype of black men being large penised hyper-sexual play things. Some enjoy black guys love this concept. Many don’t. As someone else said fetishising race is a toxic thing (imho) but as others will say Fab and swinging is a place of fantasy and sexual exploration so if you don't like it ignore it. I will reiterate no race is excluded from these types of events.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

These threads irritate me. Swinging reflects society and most white women are not interested in black men. I have lived in various towns across England and if went clubbing in the "white clubs" very few white women would dance with me or my black friends. Whereas when I went to the "black clubs" with a majority of white women, my chances were much improved and on a par to when I went to purely black clubs. Swinging is identical.

White people forget about their everyday entitlement in their clubs and don't see that they are predominantly full with white people.

Also if you look at social history,white people have fetishised whiteness and keeping to their own.

It should also be noted that BMFC allows people of all races in, it is one of the very few places where swingers who prefer meeting other races can meet. The discrimination in society on a whole is against black people not white people. With the logic in this thread gay clubs should not exist.

As pointed earlier, white men fetishises black women, however black women fetishise white men which annoys the Afrocentric groups. I am not saying black women married to white men are fetishising them, I am saying that that fetish exists look up Mollena Williams.

At the end of the day if you frame something as a fetish, provided it goes on between consenting adults it is no-one"s business.

Also by definition a fetish is an activity of a minority. Given that white men in Europe are the overwhelming majority of males they do don't need to their own special places to meet them.

For all of the high minded talk of equality the practical effect of OP's comments is to say that races should only swing with their own race.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"These threads irritate me. Swinging reflects society and most white women are not interested in black men. I have lived in various towns across England and if went clubbing in the "white clubs" very few white women would dance with me or my black friends. Whereas when I went to the "black clubs" with a majority of white women, my chances were much improved and on a par to when I went to purely black clubs. Swinging is identical.

White people forget about their everyday entitlement in their clubs and don't see that they are predominantly full with white people.

Also if you look at social history,white people have fetishised whiteness and keeping to their own.

It should also be noted that BMFC allows people of all races in, it is one of the very few places where swingers who prefer meeting other races can meet. The discrimination in society on a whole is against black people not white people. With the logic in this thread gay clubs should not exist.

As pointed earlier, white men fetishises black women, however black women fetishise white men which annoys the Afrocentric groups. I am not saying black women married to white men are fetishising them, I am saying that that fetish exists look up Mollena Williams.

At the end of the day if you frame something as a fetish, provided it goes on between consenting adults it is no-one"s business.

Also by definition a fetish is an activity of a minority. Given that white men in Europe are the overwhelming majority of males they do don't need to their own special places to meet them.

For all of the high minded talk of equality the practical effect of OP's comments is to say that races should only swing with their own race."

I just said I don’t care what colour you are, it’s no problem to me. Don’t dare bring history into it. It’s not applicable. I don’t live there and neither do you. What matters is right now. The hypocrisy is that if a club labelled a night ‘white mans fan club’ they’d be a massive uproar and you know it. So that’s utterly discriminatory against white people and to argue against that is insane. It doesn’t matter to me what your preferences are, you simply shouldn’t advertise one race over another. It’s preposterous.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

So much entitlement.

I am out of this conversation and I won't be checking back in as I won't be school marm'd by someone who does not know the real world.

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By *rownskinmaleMan
over a year ago

Essex


"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

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But it didn't say 'No white men allowed'Am I missing something?

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By *bcinkentMan
over a year ago

Gillingham


"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

"

Racism only works one way round. Wmfc and there would be uproar, hate for the colour of skin at the moment and yet it's acceptable to advertise clubs with it. It is very hypocritical, personally doesn't bother me that there are bmfc or that they are even called that, it's just the fact it's the colours of their skin being used for some things seems acceptable sometimes and not others

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By *lackMetalMan
over a year ago

Centre

It seems obvious that some people on this thread, including the OP, have (a) no idea what racism really is, and (b) no idea what BMFC is or how it operated because they have never attended an event.

To help you all, see below a post from the organiser of BMFC to a previous WMFC post, on why she set up the event, how it operates etc..

Hopefully this will help those on here with an obvious blindspot about these things because they have never really gotten to know or socialised with a black person or whatever.

This is the post:

“ I feel so sorry that your initial question has been hijacked and i wish you luck with your venture

Feel free to email me if you want to ask me any questions about how i set up the BMFC but trust me, you could be on the start of a very rocky road

I am happy to let everyone here know the history of the BMFC, why i set it up and how i set it up but i doubt the majority of people here will be interested ...

But i can assure you that over 8 years ago (when i organised the first BMFC party) there were very few (if any) Black Guys in the swingers clubs that i attended

Thats why i set up the BMFC!!

And 8 years on i have over 15000 members,

Organise 7 parties each month - in 7 different venues across the UK,

And have an average of 600 guests attend the parties every month

No one is forced to attend a BMFC - its all about that magic word - PREFERENCE

And by the way, these days, its the venues that contact ME to host parties, not vice versa ...

And for the record, i have NEVER refused admission to ANYONE based on the colour of their skin (but i HAVE refused admission for other reasons, being too d*unk, unsuitably dressed, not being on the guest list)

I feel it is important to make non Black guys aware that the ladies who attend our parties do so because they are predominantly attracted to Black Guys, so they may not get much attention

I do that as my main concern is that guests get value for money and that they manage their expectations

It would be totally wrong for me to accept non Black Guys to a BMFC party without making them aware of the ladies preference, as they may possibly feel duped if they did not 'lucky' on the night!!

I am totally aware that the BMFC is not for everyone but my intentions are not and never have been to exclude ANYONE from attending

BMFC parties are well attended, sociable events where the dance-floor is always rammed, the social areas are always buzzing and the play rooms are usually busy!!”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

"

I can’t say it’s racist to have BMFC as the clue is in the Name. Some people fantasise about being with a black guy!

It’s the same with Cubs and cougars nights or greedy girls parties

At the end of the day it’s all about the swinging lifestyle, just enjoy it

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

But it didn't say 'No white men allowed'Am I missing something?"

You're missing nothing, waste of time trying to educate the butt hurts......

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

"

I have read this post a few times and I'm struggling to understand your point of view.

Are you complaining about the event being called black male fan club?

What was your expectation when you asked if they would hold a white male fan club?

Are you simply looking for something to be offended by and to gain support now you are offended?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sexualising race is vile.

I understand that it’s seen as an advantage for guys, on here, but it gives me the shivers. Anyone who asks about my ethnicity claiming it’s ‘hot’, gets a sharp response.

Don’t get me started on the Queen of Spades tattoos…"

Their life choices. Their preference. Their fab profile. Its no one else's business

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

But it didn't say 'No white men allowed'Am I missing something?"

I remember looking forward to a weekend in Birmingham, and contacted Xtasia about visiting them on the Friday night. They replied with “you’re very welcome to come along, but we are holding a bmfc event that night?” To which I replied, well there’s not much point me going along then is there lol? Their answer was “look at it as a theme, it will be a busy night” A busy night full of women looking for black guys yes lol…..

So; all guys would be welcome, but any women there would be focussed on the black guys. You pay your money, you take your choice. I went down Broad St instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see the playrooms advertised a black mans fan club on insta, so I asked if they could run a white mans fans club too. My message was deleted.

I mean, could you imagine if they did. ‘No black men allowed’. It’s unbelievably racist what they do. FYI, I don’t care if you’re pink, blue or black. It’s bonkers any club can get away with it.

"

No one is excluded white men. White ladies. Black ladies. All can go. So not sure of your problem

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