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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Well, some of them are married, in a committed relationship, exclusive fuckbuddies, etc etc. And a few (a very small few, hopefully) like to roll the dice. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Just chill not your problem. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Live and let live. Or is this another knight in armour thread where someone appeals to a popular topic to win favour? | |||
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"I think you mean here not hear and their not there " Nice 1,, pre txt took over I think | |||
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"Do blow jobs without a condom count ?" not in the same league as full sex without a condom. Some risks yes but much lower. | |||
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"Do blow jobs without a condom count ?" Yes they do. I find that people often criticise BB but don’t see the hypocrisy of having oral sex without protection? | |||
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"Do blow jobs without a condom count ? Yes they do. I find that people often criticise BB but don’t see the hypocrisy of having oral sex without protection? " Probably because they aren't aware of the dangers of HPV and head and neck cancers | |||
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"In a trusted FWB arrangement and appropriate tests then I can see no issue. " Exactly this | |||
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"In a trusted FWB arrangement and appropriate tests then I can see no issue. " Absolutely ! | |||
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"Not judging people either Life's short enough And after reading about someone who on a course of pep, (I think that's what's they said ) and he's got to tell he's wife , Agree it's there choice " absolutely sounds like you are judging or why even make the post? each to there own and all that | |||
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"Because they want to. You do you, they can do them." I'm getting bored of doing me now | |||
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"Their circus, their monkeys. Makes it an easy filter as to who not to meet x" 100% agree with that | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic Live and let live. Or is this another knight in armour thread where someone appeals to a popular topic to win favour? " Yes its called white knighting..a simp tactic | |||
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"I prefer bare, it feels much better and condoms cause me dryness and irritation making sex uncomfortable, even latex free. I get tested monthly and have never had a STI, I'm honest with all my partners, our risk to take xx" | |||
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"I think this topic must have been the first on any Fab forum and it almost always goes the same way. No to bareback or yes to bareback; saints and sinners. If however it is looked upon as a simple matter of risk to life and limb it is a little more interesting. IF, you attend a STI clinic regularly, as you should whether or not you use condoms, then no TREATED STI these days is going to kill you and very few cause any serious harm. Not even HIV AIDS. [I know the treatment is onerous but we are talking risk here.] Alternatively you will find on Fab smokers demanding condoms when their chances of dying of cancer are around 1 in 5. Bike riding has a far higher risk of death and injury, rock climbing, driving, obesity, alcohol abuse and so on. So why is there such a preoccupation with STDs? Well it is, I would suggest, the embarrassment factor. It is easier to tell friends and relatives "Tony is a paraplegic because he had a motorbike accident" than "Charlie has 3 small warts on his ball sack from a STI." I would also hazard to suggest that those facing the greatest risk from the ill effects of untreated STDs are those who wear condoms and consequently decide to NEVER get tested at a clinic and are thus unaware they have a STI. The "sinners" at least find out and get treated and can act accordingly whilst infectious. So each to their own. You assess the risks and rewards and make your own choices but I suggest you do so on the basis of a realistic risk assessment and not one coloured by the social acceptability of the risk occuring. [Footnote - I know there are condom wearers who get tested. I know there are barebackers who have never caught a STI. I know circumcised cocks are much less likely to become infected, etc etc. I was discussing the risks involved and why the apparent fear of a STI is disproportionately high.] " Put way more eloquently than I could've done. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " You just look after you! Even people away from this swinging lifestyle, still take chances! It's because you have the pictures of proof, that's messing with your mind! | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic You just look after you! Even people away from this swinging lifestyle, still take chances! It's because you have the pictures of proof, that's messing with your mind!" Reasonable | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Hopefully people have been vaccinated against Hepatitis A and B plus HPV. They could have ‘on-demand dosing’ of PREP to reduce any risk of HIV infection. But as for everything else, open and exposed. | |||
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"I think with people using that kind of pic on there profiles let’s you know who you can avoid if BB is not your thing " Possibly | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " I do not do bareback sex but wondered OP if you wore a condom when receiving oral?. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Sensible people on here get regularly tested whether they bareback or not. | |||
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"Do blow jobs without a condom count ? Yes they do. I find that people often criticise BB but don’t see the hypocrisy of having oral sex without protection? " This it isn't as easily transmitted, but the risk is still there. I just test regularly between meets, then if I have anything, I know where it came from. I don't do BB but I do oral with no condom | |||
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"Do blow jobs without a condom count ? Yes they do. I find that people often criticise BB but don’t see the hypocrisy of having oral sex without protection? This it isn't as easily transmitted, but the risk is still there. I just test regularly between meets, then if I have anything, I know where it came from. I don't do BB but I do oral with no condom" Herpes can be transmitted very easily this way … one touch of the skin! | |||
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"Nothing pisses me off more than some pillock trying to pass off moral judgement on someone else. As my username suggests I'm bb all the way. I'm careful who I have sex with. I get tested regularly, I'm on PREP. In over 40 years of bb fun I've never had an STI and even if I do I know to get it treated pronto. And they are all treatable so what's the OP's beef? " No, they are NOT all treatable. | |||
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"I think this topic must have been the first on any Fab forum and it almost always goes the same way. No to bareback or yes to bareback; saints and sinners. If however it is looked upon as a simple matter of risk to life and limb it is a little more interesting. IF, you attend a STI clinic regularly, as you should whether or not you use condoms, then no TREATED STI these days is going to kill you and very few cause any serious harm. Not even HIV AIDS. [I know the treatment is onerous but we are talking risk here.] Alternatively you will find on Fab smokers demanding condoms when their chances of dying of cancer are around 1 in 5. Bike riding has a far higher risk of death and injury, rock climbing, driving, obesity, alcohol abuse and so on. So why is there such a preoccupation with STDs? Well it is, I would suggest, the embarrassment factor. It is easier to tell friends and relatives "Tony is a paraplegic because he had a motorbike accident" than "Charlie has 3 small warts on his ball sack from a STI." I would also hazard to suggest that those facing the greatest risk from the ill effects of untreated STDs are those who wear condoms and consequently decide to NEVER get tested at a clinic and are thus unaware they have a STI. The "sinners" at least find out and get treated and can act accordingly whilst infectious. So each to their own. You assess the risks and rewards and make your own choices but I suggest you do so on the basis of a realistic risk assessment and not one coloured by the social acceptability of the risk occuring. [Footnote - I know there are condom wearers who get tested. I know there are barebackers who have never caught a STI. I know circumcised cocks are much less likely to become infected, etc etc. I was discussing the risks involved and why the apparent fear of a STI is disproportionately high.] Put way more eloquently than I could've done." | |||
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"Nothing pisses me off more than some pillock trying to pass off moral judgement on someone else. As my username suggests I'm bb all the way. I'm careful who I have sex with. I get tested regularly, I'm on PREP. In over 40 years of bb fun I've never had an STI and even if I do I know to get it treated pronto. And they are all treatable so what's the OP's beef? " It's a learning curb... Hopefully he's doing just that, by reading this thread | |||
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"definitely wouldn't myself. let alone sti, what about unwanted pregnancy? " Depends on your family situation and how much you're concerned about having more children really xx | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " How can a visual be on hear, images you’re looking at them not listening to them. | |||
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"I met a guy while back. Had already spoken and he was the one who asked about B&B and I said safe only. When we got down to it at the time and I said about grabbing his condoms or mine, he got in a little flap but went and got them. Was all fingers and thumbs tryimg to get it on and I said " you got the right size they look small" his reply was " I dont know, I've never bothered wearing one before, don't know why your wanting me to now".. I did point out that is exactly the reason no BB. " Are you sure he wasn't asking for bed and breakfast? | |||
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"Nothing pisses me off more than some pillock trying to pass off moral judgement on someone else. As my username suggests I'm bb all the way. I'm careful who I have sex with. I get tested regularly, I'm on PREP. In over 40 years of bb fun I've never had an STI and even if I do I know to get it treated pronto. And they are all treatable so what's the OP's beef? " I don’t judge, I just play my way. But your comments are not accurate and if you are saying this stuff to other people you may be putting them at risk. Not all STIs are treatable. Some stay with you for life. Prep is useful for people exposed to hiv. If you haven’t been exposed why are you on it? It offers no protection to any other STI. There’s no way to know who may be infected. They may not know themselves. So being careful is as much use in safe sex as withdrawing is in pregnancy prevention. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " It’s really not any of your business what other people do | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Maybe they choose to use Prep and visit the Sti clinic regularly? Unless you use condoms and dams for oral too then you are not immune! | |||
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"Not judging people either Life's short enough And after reading about someone who on a course of pep, (I think that's what's they said ) and he's got to tell he's wife , Agree it's there choice " Prep, pep would be pepper and not nice | |||
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"Aslong as ur honest with each other of ur sex partners it’s ok" Even I question this with FWB….. it’s easy to say you don’t go BB with anyone else. | |||
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"Nothing pisses me off more than some pillock trying to pass off moral judgement on someone else. As my username suggests I'm bb all the way. I'm careful who I have sex with. I get tested regularly, I'm on PREP. In over 40 years of bb fun I've never had an STI and even if I do I know to get it treated pronto. And they are all treatable so what's the OP's beef? " Wow a man of your age actually believes they are all treatable. My god. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " You should be going to the STI clinic whether you do BB or not. Are you saying you never go because you are safe sex only? From a risk point of view, if the generally harmless (if treated) sti diseases fill you with such dread what steps do you take to avoid the big killers in life? Smoking, alcohol, influenza, bicycling, motor bikes, hanggliding, contact sports, flying, etc etc. Remember it is quite reasonable for you to wear a condom with a new female but not realise she has ebola! | |||
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"I met a guy while back. Had already spoken and he was the one who asked about B&B and I said safe only. When we got down to it at the time and I said about grabbing his condoms or mine, he got in a little flap but went and got them. Was all fingers and thumbs tryimg to get it on and I said " you got the right size they look small" his reply was " I dont know, I've never bothered wearing one before, don't know why your wanting me to now".. I did point out that is exactly the reason no BB. Are you sure he wasn't asking for bed and breakfast? " Whoops lol | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " I think when it comes to pictures then some could be with long term partners so don't be too quick to judge. But in the end I can see the appeal, it feels better and they may be prepared for the risk. We can only hope people are informed and make their choices, we don't have to join them. | |||
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"OP you're a hero and nobody will think for one minute you're white knighting... As for us, we only play bareback together and with others if there is a Y in the day. Otherwise its condoms and morph suits all the way." So bareback at the weekend? | |||
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"Nothing pisses me off more than some pillock trying to pass off moral judgement on someone else. As my username suggests I'm bb all the way. I'm careful who I have sex with. I get tested regularly, I'm on PREP. In over 40 years of bb fun I've never had an STI and even if I do I know to get it treated pronto. And they are all treatable so what's the OP's beef? I don’t judge, I just play my way. But your comments are not accurate and if you are saying this stuff to other people you may be putting them at risk. Not all STIs are treatable. Some stay with you for life. Prep is useful for people exposed to hiv. If you haven’t been exposed why are you on it? It offers no protection to any other STI. There’s no way to know who may be infected. They may not know themselves. So being careful is as much use in safe sex as withdrawing is in pregnancy prevention. " It's also giving the wrong impression from the OPs perception - that ALL cocks in a pussy picture are of somebody they've met for the first time to fuck.... Those two people could of known each other for a while and let's face it, either one, might not be on here at all and pics are from a relationship.... Worth a thought! | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Only with own partner. There are only two reasons for bareback sex . One is it feels natural and the second is some guys can't get erection with a condom. All other things are just filthy play like cucks love cleaning up creampies etc . | |||
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"Thier bodies, thier choice." Totally agree but they put others at risk who play safe . They should be playing with like minded people only . | |||
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"Do blow jobs without a condom count ? Yes they do. I find that people often criticise BB but don’t see the hypocrisy of having oral sex without protection? Probably because they aren't aware of the dangers of HPV and head and neck cancers" | |||
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"Thier bodies, thier choice. Totally agree but they put others at risk who play safe . They should be playing with like minded people only . " May I ask for an example how they put others at risk who play safe? Would like to learn something here.... | |||
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"Thier bodies, thier choice. Totally agree but they put others at risk who play safe . They should be playing with like minded people only . May I ask for an example how they put others at risk who play safe? Would like to learn something here.... " Probably because they have unprotected oral with everyonethey meet! | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " They can do what they like...doesn't affect my life.. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " nothing wrong if you di that with you regular partner.when it comes to random shags it's a bit weird alright.but we are all different I suppose. | |||
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"Thier bodies, thier choice. Totally agree but they put others at risk who play safe . They should be playing with like minded people only . May I ask for an example how they put others at risk who play safe? Would like to learn something here.... Probably because they have unprotected oral with everyonethey meet! " Well that tells me nobody is 100% safe.... Always fucks my mind up the BB chat ... I shouldn't get involved | |||
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"Not judging people either Life's short enough And after reading about someone who on a course of pep, (I think that's what's they said ) and he's got to tell he's wife , Agree it's there choice Well thats a good advertisment that the gov could use to help reduce sti's. "Wear a condom & your wife will never know your cheating"" | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Simple. They make a judgement and perceive the risk as worth it. | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " If there’s a rapport and trust built up over time, then it’s something that could be an option. We see these bareback creampie gangbangs advertised. Now that is a whole next level of risk taking. Very reckless! | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic Simple. They make a judgement and perceive the risk as worth it." . Xx | |||
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"Im a student nurse and I spent a placement working in a sexual health clinic. Seeing first hand the physical and mental effects that catching/passing on sti's has on people is all the eye opening I need. Long term relationships and regular trusted arrangements are a different thing but first meets and one offs we'd never go with out. We use protection when fucking other people and we still get tested monthly (the home kits make it so simple these days) I wonder how many people who arent using protection actually do get regular tests rather than just saying they do ? E " Surely on your placement you learnt that monthly testing is pointless as for a BBV screen now it needs to be 6 weekly | |||
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"Im a student nurse and I spent a placement working in a sexual health clinic. Seeing first hand the physical and mental effects that catching/passing on sti's has on people is all the eye opening I need. Long term relationships and regular trusted arrangements are a different thing but first meets and one offs we'd never go with out. We use protection when fucking other people and we still get tested monthly (the home kits make it so simple these days) I wonder how many people who arent using protection actually do get regular tests rather than just saying they do ? E Surely on your placement you learnt that monthly testing is pointless as for a BBV screen now it needs to be 6 weekly " Partially correct. Mean incubation periods for BBVs is 12 days. Therefore one should get tested a days 11 to 14 after your last unprotected sex. Viral load will then be at its peak if you have anything. | |||
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"Do blow jobs without a condom count ? not in the same league as full sex without a condom. Some risks yes but much lower. " You squirt in my mouth while I'm eating you out we kiss and then you suck my dick... bad things can happen. I'm safe with new meets for the 1st few meets and I feel like they aren't fucking half the nation bare then I can be tempted but I will always get checked very regular (2 times a month when I'm met/meeting) | |||
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"people need to worry about themselve rather than judge others .... also bareback is much much bigger than people think its post like this that make them change the peference to fit in on fab. 28 years on the scene ive seen far more bare than protected and lots alots of women and couples who like bare there body there choice as long as you protect yourself then thats all you can do . the real problem is not bare or protcted its getting everyone to gey tested if they play safe or not i know loads of safe players never vist for testing but know quite a few barebacker who test religously so whos the bad ??? no one has the rights to tell anyone how they go about there sexual fun just look after yourself" That! Bareback is a choice. Everyone can do what works for them. I'm one who loves spunky bareback sex and not hesitant to admit to it. Block me those that need to | |||
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"people need to worry about themselve rather than judge others .... also bareback is much much bigger than people think its post like this that make them c hange the peference to fit in on fab. 28 years on the scene ive seen far more bare than protected and lots alots of women and couples who like bare there body there choice as long as you protect yourself then thats all you can do . the real problem is not bare or protcted its getting everyone to gey tested if they play safe or not i know loads of safe players never vist for testing but know quite a few barebacker who test religously so whos the bad ??? no one has the rights to tell anyone how they go about there sexual fun just look after yourself That! Bareback is a choice. Everyone can do what works for them. I'm one who loves spunky bareback sex and not hesitant to admit to it. Block me those that need to " | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic Live and let live. Or is this another knight in armour thread where someone appeals to a popular topic to win favour? Yes its called white knighting..a simp tactic" It's called virtue signalling and and it happens alot on the forums .... the forums are very virtuous for a swinging site | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " So is it fair to assume that every person you've had sex with you've asked them to take a test first?? Thought not | |||
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"Hi guys Just strolling and reading the comments about BB, Sorry for me I rather safe sex and wear condoms. Unfortunately for me every time I put one on and it and my cock goes limp and wonder if it the condom or my mind? " This is one of the main reasons for some people doing bareback, the latex allergy is a BS reason. Can understand cuckold cpls getting into it as the cuck likes the clean the cream pie . If I can't get erection due to condoms then I would stop swinging completely but won't risk as it's not worth it . | |||
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"Hi guys Just strolling and reading the comments about BB, Sorry for me I rather safe sex and wear condoms. Unfortunately for me every time I put one on and it and my cock goes limp and wonder if it the condom or my mind? I would play BB if I know and trust the person. Sorry for my ignorance what Prep !? Few people writing down this and never heard of it ? " PrEP is medication which prevents the person taking it from contracting the HIV virus. It is just one pill a day and has been proven to be more effective than condoms in preventing HIV transmission. People taking it get a full sexual health screening every 3 months when they collect their next lot of tablets. | |||
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"I prefer bare, it feels much better and condoms cause me dryness and irritation making sex uncomfortable, even latex free. I get tested monthly and have never had a STI, I'm honest with all my partners, our risk to take xx" Totally agree!! I LOVE bare, it’s just so much better sex, and as long as it’s an honest up front convo totally our own risk assessment!! xx | |||
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"Hi guys Just strolling and reading the comments about BB, Sorry for me I rather safe sex and wear condoms. Unfortunately for me every time I put one on and it and my cock goes limp and wonder if it the condom or my mind? I would play BB if I know and trust the person. Sorry for my ignorance what Prep !? Few people writing down this and never heard of it ? PrEP is medication which prevents the person taking it from contracting the HIV virus. It is just one pill a day and has been proven to be more effective than condoms in preventing HIV transmission. People taking it get a full sexual health screening every 3 months when they collect their next lot of tablets. " Ah thank for that info… just google it and now understand it now | |||
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"Been barebacking for 15 up years on here and not once caught anything I’m careful who I play with x" Been very lucky then | |||
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" (Quote) Been barebacking for 15 up years on here and not once caught anything. 'I’m careful who I play with' " Bacteria and virus are 'not careful' who they play with! | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Does an sti clinic need advertising? | |||
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" (Quote) Been barebacking for 15 up years on here and not once caught anything. 'I’m careful who I play with' Bacteria and virus are 'not careful' who they play with! " | |||
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"Bareback feels so much better" Agreed. We know the risks and it’s our own choice. | |||
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"Not judging people either Life's short enough And after reading about someone who on a course of pep, (I think that's what's they said ) and he's got to tell he's wife , Agree it's there choice " Thats different. That is deciding to exclude a partner.... for whatever reason..... and gettimg caught out. Thats a decision one makes where you need to decide how it affects those intimate with you. And if you dip and pass on an STI to someone who hasn't consented then that have every right to be pissed at you. If your a couple and are happy with that decision then that is an assessment they and the people they interact with have made. Disease can be caught in so many ways... it isnt all about STIs. But still we live on I think it is important to know if partners are into bareback so participants can make informed decisions. Its fair but as said. Many dont. Many will skin up for penetrative sex or anal but will suck a cock and take cum unskinned. This protects them how. Ultimately its there choice and others opinions don't count unless you are or become involved. Why do people smoke, drink, take , shove up their nose or use crack or heroine. Doesnt stop them doing it no matter how much fuckwittery is involved.... | |||
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"The amount of peeps going bareback and some of the pictures on hear,it's a great advertisement for a trip to your sti clinic " Why? Do you expect everyone to have STI’s? | |||
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"Its between the people invoiled what their choices are . I don't know about all this stuff never had an sti or visited a clinic What is this prep that people Keep talking about ." You want answers? Simple answer below. People do make their own choice on bareback etc. Since AIDS is no longer a killer most TREATED STIs are less harmful than other common diseases. The physical risk is also less but the stigma of a STI still strikes fear into the heart of many. There are STIs that have no symptoms so, in truth, you do not know you have them and you may already have them. However even the most common STI, chlamydia, can cause damage so you should be tested regularly if you are having sex with anyone at all. Prep is a pretreatment that acts to prevent you getting HIV-AIDS. | |||
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