FabSwingers.com forum: Ask in private, answer in public No3

By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

The last thread got too big.

Who’s in for another round?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmm. Most erotic, hmmm hard to say but I would say to see massage of 2 girls in saunas of natural spa

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

It would have to be watching Christian and Sabrina Valentina fuck.

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By *landfordfabbersCouple
over a year ago

Blandford ish

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

Can’t ask because I can’t see your profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the back of the cinema. Wife's on her knees sucking even though we both saw the CCTV camera!

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By *antasy Explorers 1313Couple
over a year ago

A place where others reside (nr Oxford)

Would love to play during my morning meeting

In!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please ask away xx

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By *landfordfabbersCouple
over a year ago

Blandford ish

Hummmm it’s a hard one that, I think a house party with us and two couples on a dining table, it was erotic looking around at all the bodies etc

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

Definitely my 5” high heel shoes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ask me anything xx

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

I'm in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sucked dozens of cocks even little tiddlers

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By *dul147Man
over a year ago

Whitehaven

Morning all x

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By *antasy Explorers 1313Couple
over a year ago

A place where others reside (nr Oxford)

In one go is two different lots

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

On stockings, or on my face, or in my mouth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Four in one day including two at once

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By *ncemoreroundthesunCouple
over a year ago

on the move

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By *ursecretmissionsCouple
over a year ago

Essex

Go on then

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

5 in total but at separate times.

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By *ncemoreroundthesunCouple
over a year ago

on the move

Meeting in a nice bar, some chat and flirting, move to a room with a hot tub, some fun and games in there, lots of play as a 2,3 and then 4sum. On to the bed, all boxes ticked, 3sum in the shower after. Was a very good night.

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By *ncemoreroundthesunCouple
over a year ago

on the move

Yes and no

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

Tough one. I love receiving blowjobs but I love giving them even more!

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By *ncemoreroundthesunCouple
over a year ago

on the move

It's a double no I'm afraid

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By *ongcockMan
over a year ago

somerset

I’m up for a question

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By *dul147Man
over a year ago

Whitehaven

There's a few, off the top of my head I'd have to say

Natalie mars

Domino presley

Think if I thought about it a bit longer I could add a few more to the list

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By *ongcockMan
over a year ago

somerset

I would say my first mmf

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By *dul147Man
over a year ago

Whitehaven

Yes, only once when I was I teen..... And yes I swollowed lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please ask me anything as hubby in work xx

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"Please ask me anything as hubby in work xx"

I would ask but your profile is blocked!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

About year ago

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By *layful Couple For YouCouple
over a year ago

Lust

We’ll play, sounds like fun

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By *ursecretmissionsCouple
over a year ago

Essex

3 guys at once

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

12 at once x

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By *lexMegasMan
over a year ago

WREXHAM

Ask away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back again

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By *antasy Explorers 1313Couple
over a year ago

A place where others reside (nr Oxford)

No, it's not on our list of things we want to do.

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By *layful Couple For YouCouple
over a year ago

Lust

Oral both ways

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By *lexMegasMan
over a year ago

WREXHAM

Yesterday

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By *ge_load_ladMan
over a year ago

NW & Mids

In again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be used by group of girls.

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By *nderson007Man
over a year ago

Midlands

I'm in if anyone fancies asking a question

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By *nderson007Man
over a year ago

Midlands

No but definitely on my wish list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Few years ago , d*unken party

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By *aidtobespankedCouple
over a year ago

Chester

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

We’d like to play

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By *layful Couple For YouCouple
over a year ago

Lust

The one in our 13th Feb pics. 9.5” and really thick……..it was a squeeze lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in, ask away

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By *layful Couple For YouCouple
over a year ago

Lust

Nope

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

I met someone on fab guys for my first, a lady I was seeing knew I'd been thinking about it and persuaded me. He really put me at ease when I went round to his house he undressed me and we lay on the bed together and started wanking each other, then he moved down and sucked my cock and then asked me to suck his.

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Mrs Pf - 2

Mr Pf - 0

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By *aidtobespankedCouple
over a year ago

Chester

Lucy has sucked 3 cocks in one day

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By *nderson007Man
over a year ago

Midlands

Have fun with a sexy tv/ts

Dvp

Creampie clean up

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By *assing Fancies xCouple
over a year ago

Sherwood Forest

We're in

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

It would be fucking Lucy while sucking Seb, making him cum in my mouth and then Lucy and I sharing his cum, and Seb joining us for a snog.

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By *ge_load_ladMan
over a year ago

NW & Mids

Never actually counted lol, but deffo love to try two together

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"Have fun with a sexy tv/ts

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

Fucking my friend whilst her boyfriend was asleep upstairs when I was younger.

With a man him sucking me in his garden whilst his wife was inside

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By *J GeminiTV/TS
over a year ago

Northumberland

I'm in

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

Over my cock

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

Three. Would like more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Threesome with a lad me and my then gf worked with. We took him back to ours after a works night out

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By *e4567Man
over a year ago

derby

I’m in

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

"We're in

You've blocked men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go on then

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

More and more I was fancying women. I love boobs.

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Never tried it. Although love the thought of it. Closest I’ve got is a toy and Mr Pf at the same time.

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By *J GeminiTV/TS
over a year ago

Northumberland

Just one, I like to give it my full attention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im in x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh go on, I’m in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

3, by the same guy though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 weeks ago which was during my last meet. Iv been a good girl since

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I think about 7 or 8,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in

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By *luttTV/TS
over a year ago

Duns

I’m game

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By *luttTV/TS
over a year ago

Duns

Honestly, I lost count.

It would have been in a sauna session - over a dozen I’d say

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By *ebaucherouspoetMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I'm in

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By *ofdiamondsMan
over a year ago

Between wisbech & Kings lynn

Sure, I'm in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmm in xx

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By *heHungStudentMan
over a year ago

Kettering

Im in

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By *luttTV/TS
over a year ago

Duns

Being fucked over sucking, although both are good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Water park changing rooms when on holiday. Friends were changing in the booth next to us

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

I’m in

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By *hilledout-coupleCouple
over a year ago

telford

In again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After a night out with friends about a month ago, last min meet at a hotel with a guy staying in the area for work. I was a little 'tipsy', really let my hair down, best sex iv ever had

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in

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By *hilledout-coupleCouple
over a year ago

telford

Waking up early hours in a hotel to find the Mrs had arranged a visit from a bbc and was getting fucked at the end of the bed x

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Our first visit to a club. Playing with another couple and a lone lady just joined in, lots of fun to be had while another group fucked beside us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually haven't.... yet...

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

When I was in college in the swimming pool cubicles a foursome

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By *heHungStudentMan
over a year ago

Kettering

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Just the one. We haven’t had a full swap so far.

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By *rikki1967ukMan
over a year ago

peterborough

I'm in ask away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in ask away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

5. That was a fun day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't have any

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blindfolded, tied up and gangbanged by an uncountable number of men that I never actually get to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please ask away x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. I don’t like the idea of being overly stretched out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

None, actually

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

In my early twenties, not long after I started crossdressing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good kisses from a man I'm attracted to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spontaneous, fully naked anal sex in the bushes outside a police station

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. Holds no interest for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We'll see what happens when club's open

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Given I’m a “spicy accountant” (look it up

) my friends and family all know and support me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes and I loved it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes definitely, I find you all a huge turn on, I’ve meet a few over the years and had lots of hot naughty fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have this gorgeous pair of stilettos with strawberries all over them. They’re so cute… but for photoshoots only

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I don’t think I can explain the appeal of crossdressing. I had tried some clothing from female relatives and it felt nice, and it felt right, and it felt “me”. It makes me feel feminine and sexy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Outdoor public fun and lingerie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Older guys x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have before yes and I'm openminded x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4 is the most

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By *landfordfabbersCouple
over a year ago

Blandford ish

Nope never have met any solders

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By *landfordfabbersCouple
over a year ago

Blandford ish

Nope, only ever submitted to mark, I couldn’t to a stranger

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By *landfordfabbersCouple
over a year ago

Blandford ish

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By *landfordfabbersCouple
over a year ago

Blandford ish

I’d love to be in a all girl orgy

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I would happily dominate a man and have him worship me!

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By *erms and conditionsCouple
over a year ago

Alton

Send us some questions and we'll post up the answer a bit later on. Silly work days getting in the way of fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am still here

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By *ebaucherouspoetMan
over a year ago

Bradford

"Spontaneous, fully naked anal sex in the bushes outside a police station

What a woman

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By *nderson007Man
over a year ago

Midlands

Some great answers so far

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By *ebaucherouspoetMan
over a year ago

Bradford

First thing that attracts me to a woman physically would be the booty, can stare at the rear end of a well made lady for days. First thing from a mentality standpoint would be a licentious nature, wanton and free spirited type woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We’re in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personality sense of humor and bi curious at least

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I have only ever dominated one woman and a couple of tgirls. I would very much like to dominate more!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not met any yet. Treat them like a lady

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By *ndysahornyboyMan
over a year ago

Holborn for work

I'll play if anyone wants to ask a question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To fuck a yes/tv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

About one year ago

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By *antasy Explorers 1313Couple
over a year ago

A place where others reside (nr Oxford)

Back in if anyone wants to message

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By *ndysahornyboyMan
over a year ago

Holborn for work

My ideal meet would be another bi mmf, have only had one so far on here and if was incredible, we all played with each other, I got to fuck both of them, she ended up absolutely covered by us both after cumming first. Perfect.

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By *ndysahornyboyMan
over a year ago

Holborn for work

Ok, a bit more detail... It was a local couple, I'd met the guy first for a bit of fun, they do that as a bit of a screening process which I was fine with lol. We didn't hang around when we all met up, got straight down to the horny fun. Sadly they're no longer local!

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would have to say me Phil

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By *erms and conditionsCouple
over a year ago

Alton

That depends.

Consistency him

Sudden desires her

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still have not, but getting an ever increasing urge to try

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By *erms and conditionsCouple
over a year ago

Alton

Him;quickly...

Her; needed a magazine as it was dull

This was well and truly before we met

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On a balcony, a mmmmf with someone we met that eve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have and id want to again

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By *erms and conditionsCouple
over a year ago

Alton

We'd gone to a club and was told of the existence of fabs there. Came home and signed up

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By *antasy Explorers 1313Couple
over a year ago

A place where others reside (nr Oxford)

Hmmmm

Spontaneous orgy in a club or mmmf

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By *antasy Explorers 1313Couple
over a year ago

A place where others reside (nr Oxford)

Yes we have, it was amazing. Fun, intense, relaxed and such a turn on. Hope to repeat it soon

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By *amesTantMan
over a year ago

Rochester

I’m in

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By *antasy Explorers 1313Couple
over a year ago

A place where others reside (nr Oxford)

Definitely Charlie. He just has a mind for that sort of thing. Debs isn't submissive but is happy to get involved with Charlie's ideas and then take the lead if required.

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

My First bisexual experience was on my first dressed meet,which was with an older tgirl. I sucked her with a condom, and she sucked me without, swallowing all of my cum.

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By *zlakMan
over a year ago

Norwich

Im in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May aswell play

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By *ndysahornyboyMan
over a year ago

Holborn for work

An amazing fantasy of mine is (back to the threesome theme) to have MMF where we each take it in turns to be the subject of the other two playing with that person, ideally blindfold, maybe a little restrained so the play is entirely our of their control, making each other cum in turn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a gym (mrs ) and a couple of other places . Car parks and on a beach lounger . Mr on a beach . In the back of a car whilst taxi man was driving

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By *zlakMan
over a year ago

Norwich

The first time i sucked a cock was about 22yrs ago. A friend of mine and i were chatting about fantasies and i said one of mine was a 3 sum he asked if i wanted one with him and his FB.

We did and i sucked his cock.

Not looked back since

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

3 in the one day . Was a club with hubby .

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By *ristol_nicola OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I think JandJ are both insanely attractive.

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By *oetic licenceCouple
over a year ago

Darley Dale

I'm in. Xx

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By *ang Average guyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

It was a man off fab guys who I met and I sucked him.

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By *oetic licenceCouple
over a year ago

Darley Dale

Never, but we'd love to. Something we've spoken about so many times. Xx

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By *innynewMan
over a year ago

Hythe

I'm in

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By *oetic licenceCouple
over a year ago

Darley Dale

The 2nd time we went to a club, we hooked up with a couple and it was the 1st time I had been with a woman properly, it was delicious.

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By *oetic licenceCouple
over a year ago

Darley Dale

He's only just starting exploring, unfortunately because of my illness we haven't played for a long time, and need to wait a few more months I think. Maybe I should let him play alone.

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over a year ago

I'm in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im in

Nikki x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in for an hour before Mark gets home

Marie xxx

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By *uxuriantCouple
over a year ago

Sometimes Here, Sometimes There

In!

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By *oetic licenceCouple
over a year ago

Darley Dale

Only 1. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I spent the night with a cuck couple he had a dog cage in there bedroom where he spent the night whilst I slept in there marital bed. His cage was covered in a blanket so he could only listen to us and was unable to see us.

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