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"Are we creating a beige society? Creativity thrives on differences,not sameness." Then you clearly have not understood that diversity means celebrating our differences, not avoiding them. I am so glad to be part of the LGBT+ community and have a gf who is too as are many of our swinging friends.  | |||
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"Are we creating a beige society? Creativity thrives on differences,not sameness." How is it the same? That doesn’t even make sense, it’s about diversity. | |||
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"What sort of question is this? I don’t understand what you’re trying to say" What does the + in LGBT+ stand for? Does it include those in the swinging/alternative lifestyle, even if they are classed as 'straight' by society's standard? | |||
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"I think you'll find that the LGBT+ community brings a hell of a lot more colour to life than the usual 1 man 1 woman bland beige normality that you seem to crave. You really do have it in for anyone that is anything other than a carbon copy yourself.....jeez
"Actually I prefer 1 man 2 women, don’t project, it’s not a nice trait. | |||
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"Are we creating a beige society? Creativity thrives on differences,not sameness." What does this mean? | |||
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"I think you'll find that the LGBT+ community brings a hell of a lot more colour to life than the usual 1 man 1 woman bland beige normality that you seem to crave. You really do have it in for anyone that is anything other than a carbon copy yourself.....jeez
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and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha | |||
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"I think society is more colourful than ever and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha "Beige might be what some people want or like... | |||
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"I think society is more colourful than ever and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha
Beige might be what some people want or like... "Anyone can be whatever colour they like... if everyone were to be beige it would be very boring. Hence why I said society is more colourful than ever - that includes the beige people and should stay that way and improve... Someone’s out for an argument as usual ha | |||
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"Are we creating a beige society? Creativity thrives on differences,not sameness." How does this make any sense whatsoever | |||
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"I think society is more colourful than ever and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha
Beige might be what some people want or like...
Anyone can be whatever colour they like... if everyone were to be beige it would be very boring.
Hence why I said society is more colourful than ever - that includes the beige people and should stay that way and improve...
Someone’s out for an argument as usual ha "Not an argument, just a non beige debate between un judgmental people. | |||
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"I think society is more colourful than ever and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha
Beige might be what some people want or like...
Anyone can be whatever colour they like... if everyone were to be beige it would be very boring.
Hence why I said society is more colourful than ever - that includes the beige people and should stay that way and improve...
Someone’s out for an argument as usual ha
Not an argument, just a non beige debate between un judgmental people."My argument comment wasn’t back to you, OP 
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"I think society is more colourful than ever and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha
Beige might be what some people want or like...
Anyone can be whatever colour they like... if everyone were to be beige it would be very boring.
Hence why I said society is more colourful than ever - that includes the beige people and should stay that way and improve...
Someone’s out for an argument as usual ha
Not an argument, just a non beige debate between un judgmental people."You might want to clarify what you're asking. It sounds like you think advancing LGBTQ rights and equality makes the world more boring, which is really odd. | |||
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"I think society is more colourful than ever and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha
Beige might be what some people want or like...
Anyone can be whatever colour they like... if everyone were to be beige it would be very boring.
Hence why I said society is more colourful than ever - that includes the beige people and should stay that way and improve...
Someone’s out for an argument as usual ha
Not an argument, just a non beige debate between un judgmental people.
My argument comment wasn’t back to you, OP
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"I think society is more colourful than ever and fingers crossed it continues to improve across the world!
Beige is boring ha
Beige might be what some people want or like...
Anyone can be whatever colour they like... if everyone were to be beige it would be very boring.
Hence why I said society is more colourful than ever - that includes the beige people and should stay that way and improve...
Someone’s out for an argument as usual ha
Not an argument, just a non beige debate between un judgmental people.
You might want to clarify what you're asking. It sounds like you think advancing LGBTQ rights and equality makes the world more boring, which is really odd. "This  these days rather than come right out with it, it needs to be hidden. | |||
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"I fail to see how LGBTQ is about sameness. As a member of the community I can assure you that there’s nothing homogeneous about us. The Community was originally coined to provide support to individuals and groups that were disenfranchised and shunned by society, to show the world that we’re not all the same, that representation matters and to fight for rights for people irrespective of their sexuality. If anything, the LGBTQ community is contradictory to the concept that we’re all the same and to show that heteronormative culture has an alternative. If you think that the community makes things beige, then you’re not paying attention " Reminds me of that scene in life of Brian... You've got to think for yourselves. You're all individuals! FOLLOWERS: Yes, we're all individuals! BRIAN: You're all different! FOLLOWERS: Yes, we are all different! BRIAN: You've all got to work it out for yourselves! FOLLOWERS: Yes! We've got to work it out for ourselves! | |||
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"I fail to see how LGBTQ is about sameness. As a member of the community I can assure you that there’s nothing homogeneous about us. The Community was originally coined to provide support to individuals and groups that were disenfranchised and shunned by society, to show the world that we’re not all the same, that representation matters and to fight for rights for people irrespective of their sexuality. If anything, the LGBTQ community is contradictory to the concept that we’re all the same and to show that heteronormative culture has an alternative. If you think that the community makes things beige, then you’re not paying attention Reminds me of that scene in life of Brian... You've got to think for yourselves. You're all individuals! FOLLOWERS: Yes, we're all individuals! BRIAN: You're all different! FOLLOWERS: Yes, we are all different! BRIAN: You've all got to work it out for yourselves! FOLLOWERS: Yes! We've got to work it out for ourselves! " 
Except it’s nothing like that at all
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"I fail to see how LGBTQ is about sameness. As a member of the community I can assure you that there’s nothing homogeneous about us. The Community was originally coined to provide support to individuals and groups that were disenfranchised and shunned by society, to show the world that we’re not all the same, that representation matters and to fight for rights for people irrespective of their sexuality. If anything, the LGBTQ community is contradictory to the concept that we’re all the same and to show that heteronormative culture has an alternative. If you think that the community makes things beige, then you’re not paying attention Reminds me of that scene in life of Brian... You've got to think for yourselves. You're all individuals! FOLLOWERS: Yes, we're all individuals! BRIAN: You're all different! FOLLOWERS: Yes, we are all different! BRIAN: You've all got to work it out for yourselves! FOLLOWERS: Yes! We've got to work it out for ourselves!
Except it’s nothing like that at all
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"You know there’s no such thing as a LGBT+ community, it’s made up, it doesn’t have a single voice or set of values , same as swingers, same as disabled people " That’s very true, it’s an umbrella term used to encompass the disparate groups and communities within. It’s usually used because heterosexual culture doesn’t tend to recognise the individual groups or differences between the different elements | |||
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"Are we creating a beige society? Creativity thrives on differences,not sameness." Don’t understand that at all. Surely the colour and diversity from celebrating and understanding our differences is EXACTLY the opposite of beige. V x | |||
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"OP I understand what you're saying. Some members on here are amoebas so don't expect them to be able to see anything past their own noses unfortunately. She means inclusivity can often dilute diversity. So sometimes fighting to be "the same" can be a negative." Aaaaah that makes sense. As culturally diverse communities often meld together? But I think the point is to celebrate difference rather than become one. V x | |||
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"Are we creating a beige society? Creativity thrives on differences,not sameness. Don’t understand that at all. Surely the colour and diversity from celebrating and understanding our differences is EXACTLY the opposite of beige. V x " Kerching. Not entirely convinced that creativity has got much to do with sameness or difference either. You can be different and not have a creative bone in your body. | |||
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"Are we creating a beige society? Creativity thrives on differences,not sameness." Interesting take on things, but I don't follow your logic. Can you explain what you mean in a little more detail? | |||
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"You know there’s no such thing as a LGBT+ community, it’s made up, it doesn’t have a single voice or set of values , same as swingers, same as disabled people That’s very true, it’s an umbrella term used to encompass the disparate groups and communities within. It’s usually used because heterosexual culture doesn’t tend to recognise the individual groups or differences between the different elements " What’s an example of heterosexual culture ? In any group of subculture you’ll find people of varying sexuality and gender. It’s used by activists to validate their ideology that 1/ everyone is a victim , 2/ take money from government and large organisations for projects , it’s the same as activists did for disabled , that used to be called handicapped and was a minority group , they renamed it disabled to include more people, added lots of new mental health disorders such as being shy or upset or smoking vveed to include almost everyone now, which is probably a bit unfair to people in wheelchairs . The same with LGBTQI++ you so much as look at a mans bum now and you can join | |||
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"In the kink world there is a debate due to certain gay Pride marches in the U.S. are excluding kinksters in kinky outfits (particularly cross dressers) from their marches on the basis, that despite Stonewall and other opposition to the police was done by gay people in kink outfits, they want to be family friendly. Possibly some influential people on Pride marches in the U.S. want beige. " Or perhaps they want the daytime marches to be acceptable for underage community members? A person doesn’t turn 18 then become gay/bi/lesbian/trans etc. Pride can be a huge amount of support to underage members, being sexually explicit isn’t necessary. If kink is the watermark of what makes something beige or not, then society as a whole is in big trouble! | |||
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"You know there’s no such thing as a LGBT+ community, it’s made up, it doesn’t have a single voice or set of values , same as swingers, same as disabled people That’s very true, it’s an umbrella term used to encompass the disparate groups and communities within. It’s usually used because heterosexual culture doesn’t tend to recognise the individual groups or differences between the different elements What’s an example of heterosexual culture ? In any group of subculture you’ll find people of varying sexuality and gender. It’s used by activists to validate their ideology that 1/ everyone is a victim , 2/ take money from government and large organisations for projects , it’s the same as activists did for disabled , that used to be called handicapped and was a minority group , they renamed it disabled to include more people, added lots of new mental health disorders such as being shy or upset or smoking vveed to include almost everyone now, which is probably a bit unfair to people in wheelchairs . The same with LGBTQI++ you so much as look at a mans bum now and you can join "I’m not going to get into anti Community rhetoric with you. You clearly have a very skewed idea of what the LGBTQ movement is made up of, what it’s intent is and how it started. Heterosexual culture is like the matrix, it’s everywhere | |||
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"I think you'll find that the LGBT+ community brings a hell of a lot more colour to life than the usual 1 man 1 woman bland beige normality " Would completely agree with this. Just study the arts (music, film, writing etc) 80s music would have been very different if only ‘beige’.  | |||
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"OP I understand what you're saying. Some members on here are amoebas so don't expect them to be able to see anything past their own noses unfortunately. She means inclusivity can often dilute diversity. So sometimes fighting to be "the same" can be a negative." But has anyone asked or campaigned to BE the same? Surely it has always been about celebrating and respecting the diversity but at the same time affording the same protections, respect, rights and acceptances free of bigotry or discrimination. That’s very different from being the same. If anything it would open things up for even more diversity as we have seen with the continued expansion of the list of letters to include more groups. | |||
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"OP I understand what you're saying. Some members on here are amoebas so don't expect them to be able to see anything past their own noses unfortunately. She means inclusivity can often dilute diversity. So sometimes fighting to be "the same" can be a negative. But has anyone asked or campaigned to BE the same? Surely it has always been about celebrating and respecting the diversity but at the same time affording the same protections, respect, rights and acceptances free of bigotry or discrimination. That’s very different from being the same. If anything it would open things up for even more diversity as we have seen with the continued expansion of the list of letters to include more groups. " The only 'same' "they" want is to be treated the same, have the same rights and be allowed to be themselves. Genuinely don't understand anyone's opposition to anything LGBT+ | |||
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"You know there’s no such thing as a LGBT+ community, it’s made up, it doesn’t have a single voice or set of values , same as swingers, same as disabled people That’s very true, it’s an umbrella term used to encompass the disparate groups and communities within. It’s usually used because heterosexual culture doesn’t tend to recognise the individual groups or differences between the different elements What’s an example of heterosexual culture ? In any group of subculture you’ll find people of varying sexuality and gender. It’s used by activists to validate their ideology that 1/ everyone is a victim , 2/ take money from government and large organisations for projects , it’s the same as activists did for disabled , that used to be called handicapped and was a minority group , they renamed it disabled to include more people, added lots of new mental health disorders such as being shy or upset or smoking vveed to include almost everyone now, which is probably a bit unfair to people in wheelchairs . The same with LGBTQI++ you so much as look at a mans bum now and you can join "Do you not realise that all these smaller groups need to do this to stand up and be counted as they are otherwise completely overlooked but then maybe you would prefer it that way? Your remark about looking at a man's bum qualifies you to be LGBT+ shows your utter contempt for what it really is and what they are trying to achieve.....equality or are you scared of everyone being equal? Is it a threat to your heteronormality? | |||
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