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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. " Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious?" Pretty offensive to call them 'blacks' | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? Pretty offensive to call them 'blacks' " Thank you!!! | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious?" There’s a strong argument it is racist. You are not judging someone on their objective attractiveness here - their objective attractiveness is being disregarded because of the colour of their skin. We’re fond of calling this ‘preference’ on Fab, but it’s not impossible that this preference is, at its root, simply racism. | |||
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"And Iv seen far more profiles saying big black cock only over whites only. " To be honest fetishising black people is kinda problematic too... I think there's a fair bit of casual racism in the 'Whites only' thing. I'm generally more attracted to white people too, but there are loads of people of colour I really fancy. If you find it impossible to think you might be attracted to someone not white, I think you need to take a look at why that is. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? Pretty offensive to call them 'blacks' " And this too. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? Pretty offensive to call them 'blacks' Thank you!!! " I think that phrasing says quite a lot.. | |||
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"It’s a preference, not racism. And Iv seen far more profiles saying big black cock only over whites only. " Exactly this, if your profile says you are looking for chubby ladies do skinny girls get upset ??? There's no way it's overt racism. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. " So you're saying that you shouldn't be allowed to state your preferences? Seems totalitarian to me. Nobody is going to tell me who I am allowed to prefer. | |||
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"It’s called preference, same as if your straight ,you ain’t gonna want a gay male are you , yet are you homophobic for being straight and liking females only ?the answer is no , so let’s all stop this stupid race card at everything " Well said! | |||
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"It’s called preference, same as if your straight ,you ain’t gonna want a gay male are you , yet are you homophobic for being straight and liking females only ?the answer is no , so let’s all stop this stupid race card at everything " | |||
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"It’s called preference, same as if your straight ,you ain’t gonna want a gay male are you , yet are you homophobic for being straight and liking females only ?the answer is no , so let’s all stop this stupid race card at everything " | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. So you're saying that you shouldn't be allowed to state your preferences? Seems totalitarian to me. Nobody is going to tell me who I am allowed to prefer." Nobody is telling you who you are allowed to prefer. The point the OP is making is that if your preference is potentially based on racism, there is no good reason why it should be acceptable here to advertise the fact. | |||
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""Preference" is not a magic word. Preferences aren't some random thing that's handed down to you from on high. They're formed in your brain by your own opinions, life experiences, etc. So they absolutely can be racist. That's not to say it will always be racist, of course. It will depend on a case by case basis on what the actual reasons behind that preference are. Just saying "preference, not racist" as if its some golden rule is very silly. Another example of how many white people can't stand to even think about racism, and just try and shut the topic down at the first opportunity. " Well said. | |||
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"Several people seem to missing the point here. As someone recently pointed out to me based on something I had on my profile- saying you won't meet black or Asian people is racist, because you're basing your decision on their familial geographical location of origin, whereas if you say you don't generally find people with darker skin tones attractive, that can cover every skin tone that isn't white, therefore not limiting the exclusion to one or two races. For anyone that doesn't understand why saying 'blacks' or 'the blacks' is problematic, this video may help. https://youtu.be/QQ0hCEDH-aU " So "people of colour" is fine but calling them "coloured" is racist? You need to sort out your horseshit before trying to play the race card. Saying you wont meet a certain race, or gender is because you don't find them attractive. Nothing wrong with that at all. I have single males blocked from nessaging me, doesn't mean I am homophobic. Similarly, if a woman puts "bbc only" then that doesn't apply to me and that is cool also. | |||
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"Another example of how many white people can't stand to even think about racism, and just try and shut the topic down at the first opportunity. " Yep. The replies in this thread are fairly depressing ha. It's also the 'preference' of racists to not have people of colour in their towns, places of work, as well as their bed. | |||
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"I've never understood the need to express this particular "preference". Look at photographs, if you find the person unattractive for *whatever reason* simply politely say no thanks and block them. " Indeed - and perhaps it’s time Fab looked at why there are no rules here to prevent expressing it. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. " It is NOT casual Racism, it is a personal preference!!!! This is the whole trouble with the world these days, everything taken out of context. | |||
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""Preference" is not a magic word. Preferences aren't some random thing that's handed down to you from on high. They're formed in your brain by your own opinions, life experiences, etc. So they absolutely can be racist. That's not to say it will always be racist, of course. It will depend on a case by case basis on what the actual reasons behind that preference are. Just saying "preference, not racist" as if its some golden rule is very silly. Another example of how many white people can't stand to even think about racism, and just try and shut the topic down at the first opportunity. " Pathetic reply - grow up! Some people may not like a food type, perhaps a Phal or Vindaloo curry! Does that make them Racist - dear God! | |||
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"I've never understood the need to express this particular "preference". Look at photographs, if you find the person unattractive for *whatever reason* simply politely say no thanks and block them. Indeed - and perhaps it’s time Fab looked at why there are no rules here to prevent expressing it." If you have a suggestion there's a section for that. I'm expressing a personal opinion here | |||
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""Preference" is not a magic word. Preferences aren't some random thing that's handed down to you from on high. They're formed in your brain by your own opinions, life experiences, etc. So they absolutely can be racist. That's not to say it will always be racist, of course. It will depend on a case by case basis on what the actual reasons behind that preference are. Just saying "preference, not racist" as if its some golden rule is very silly. Another example of how many white people can't stand to even think about racism, and just try and shut the topic down at the first opportunity. Pathetic reply - grow up! Some people may not like a food type, perhaps a Phal or Vindaloo curry! Does that make them Racist - dear God! " Your taste in food is not in any way analogous with your reaction to someone’s skin colour. | |||
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""Preference" is not a magic word. Preferences aren't some random thing that's handed down to you from on high. They're formed in your brain by your own opinions, life experiences, etc. So they absolutely can be racist. That's not to say it will always be racist, of course. It will depend on a case by case basis on what the actual reasons behind that preference are. Just saying "preference, not racist" as if its some golden rule is very silly. Another example of how many white people can't stand to even think about racism, and just try and shut the topic down at the first opportunity. Pathetic reply - grow up! Some people may not like a food type, perhaps a Phal or Vindaloo curry! Does that make them Racist - dear God! " Reading comprehension not your strong point, I see. I specifically said an individual's preference may well *not* be racist, but that pretending it's always 100% innocent and squeaky clean in every case is silly. Comparing people to food is a good new level of daft metaphor though, congrats. | |||
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"I've never understood the need to express this particular "preference". Look at photographs, if you find the person unattractive for *whatever reason* simply politely say no thanks and block them. Indeed - and perhaps it’s time Fab looked at why there are no rules here to prevent expressing it. If you have a suggestion there's a section for that. I'm expressing a personal opinion here " Having been on Fab for a decent number of years, our confidence that suggestions in that section influence changes in the site is minimal, regardless of their validity. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? There’s a strong argument it is racist. You are not judging someone on their objective attractiveness here - their objective attractiveness is being disregarded because of the colour of their skin. We’re fond of calling this ‘preference’ on Fab, but it’s not impossible that this preference is, at its root, simply racism." Thank you for saying it better than I could articulate! | |||
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"Another example of how many white people can't stand to even think about racism, and just try and shut the topic down at the first opportunity. Yep. The replies in this thread are fairly depressing ha. It's also the 'preference' of racists to not have people of colour in their towns, places of work, as well as their bed." . You have straight and not looking for men on your profile. Why ? Is that not a preference, do you not think that’s being homophobic? If someone is a racist for having a preference then your homophobic | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.." Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.. Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. " | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.. Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. " Blacks, is the plural with black, being the singular. The word "whites" has been used in this thread and I don't seem to recall you getting your panties in a twist? Double standards are a bitch huh? | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious?" Not not racist at all..... | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? There’s a strong argument it is racist. You are not judging someone on their objective attractiveness here - their objective attractiveness is being disregarded because of the colour of their skin. We’re fond of calling this ‘preference’ on Fab, but it’s not impossible that this preference is, at its root, simply racism." Simple as this and I have experienced this many times on here | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.. Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. Blacks, is the plural with black, being the singular. The word "whites" has been used in this thread and I don't seem to recall you getting your panties in a twist? Double standards are a bitch huh?" When you’ve caused someone offence, it’s often nicer to apologise and try to understand why you’ve offended them, rather than justifying why you think you should be able to continue to offend them. | |||
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"Preferences do exist and should be respected. Your body, your choice. But if you know any history you wouldn’t have phrased it in that manner, it’s akin to walking up to someone Jewish and saying work will free you. People who phrase it in that way are well aware of what they are doing by being passive agressive, but Im glad, it shows me someones true colours " Using the plural of the singular is akin to making an anti-semitic nazi joke to a jew? Yeah, course it is mate. Good one. | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.. Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. Blacks, is the plural with black, being the singular. The word "whites" has been used in this thread and I don't seem to recall you getting your panties in a twist? Double standards are a bitch huh? When you’ve caused someone offence, it’s often nicer to apologise and try to understand why you’ve offended them, rather than justifying why you think you should be able to continue to offend them." If you took offense to a word, it really isn't my concern. The inverse also applies. | |||
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"Preferences do exist and should be respected. Your body, your choice. But if you know any history you wouldn’t have phrased it in that manner, it’s akin to walking up to someone Jewish and saying work will free you. People who phrase it in that way are well aware of what they are doing by being passive agressive, but Im glad, it shows me someones true colours Using the plural of the singular is akin to making an anti-semitic nazi joke to a jew? Yeah, course it is mate. Good one." Im sorry, where have I quoted your comment, the world doesn’t revolve around you. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. " No one will admit to it being racism! But it is ! X | |||
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"I just sat and observed this thread for a while, to see how it would turn out. I’ve only been in this country for a few months and will admit to not knowing much about your culture. In America, we have a view of the UK as a land of racial equality. Some of the treatment I’ve received and comments here have shown me that isn’t the case. It’s a shame, yeah. But you won’t change the options of a brick wall. Is every country here in Europe like what I’ve seen here? " Sadly so! x | |||
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"I just sat and observed this thread for a while, to see how it would turn out. I’ve only been in this country for a few months and will admit to not knowing much about your culture. In America, we have a view of the UK as a land of racial equality. Some of the treatment I’ve received and comments here have shown me that isn’t the case. It’s a shame, yeah. But you won’t change the options of a brick wall. Is every country here in Europe like what I’ve seen here? " Worse! We aren’t perfect, but we’re a lot better than other places! | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.. Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. Blacks, is the plural with black, being the singular. The word "whites" has been used in this thread and I don't seem to recall you getting your panties in a twist? Double standards are a bitch huh?" The same applies!!!! Tbh you're just showing yourself to be rather ignorant and childish. Continue to defend your choice of poor phrasing. This whole skin colour concept on fab is disgusting and dehumanising. If you're attracted to someone meet them if not be grown up and jog on. I won’t be commenting again. Have a great day people! | |||
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"I just sat and observed this thread for a while, to see how it would turn out. I’ve only been in this country for a few months and will admit to not knowing much about your culture. In America, we have a view of the UK as a land of racial equality. Some of the treatment I’ve received and comments here have shown me that isn’t the case. It’s a shame, yeah. But you won’t change the options of a brick wall. Is every country here in Europe like what I’ve seen here? " Yep, we have our fair share of idiots in this country unfortunately. Pleased to say it isn't as bad as it is in other European countries though. | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.. Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. Blacks, is the plural with black, being the singular. The word "whites" has been used in this thread and I don't seem to recall you getting your panties in a twist? Double standards are a bitch huh? When you’ve caused someone offence, it’s often nicer to apologise and try to understand why you’ve offended them, rather than justifying why you think you should be able to continue to offend them. If you took offense to a word, it really isn't my concern. The inverse also applies." If you took offense to my thoughts, where i didn’t quote you, it really isn’t my concern. The inverse doesn’t apply | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? There’s a strong argument it is racist. You are not judging someone on their objective attractiveness here - their objective attractiveness is being disregarded because of the colour of their skin. We’re fond of calling this ‘preference’ on Fab, but it’s not impossible that this preference is, at its root, simply racism." Well no racism is hating someone based on skin colour or religion not wanting to fuck then isn’t racist | |||
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"I just sat and observed this thread for a while, to see how it would turn out. I’ve only been in this country for a few months and will admit to not knowing much about your culture. In America, we have a view of the UK as a land of racial equality. Some of the treatment I’ve received and comments here have shown me that isn’t the case. It’s a shame, yeah. But you won’t change the options of a brick wall. Is every country here in Europe like what I’ve seen here? " There are significant numbers of people in the UK who are either casually or explicitly racist, with neither the intelligence or the desire to either understand their ignorance or seek to change it. Sadly, Fab reflects this. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious? There’s a strong argument it is racist. You are not judging someone on their objective attractiveness here - their objective attractiveness is being disregarded because of the colour of their skin. We’re fond of calling this ‘preference’ on Fab, but it’s not impossible that this preference is, at its root, simply racism. Well no racism is hating someone based on skin colour or religion not wanting to fuck then isn’t racist " No, racism is about discrimination. | |||
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"If your reaction to the issue of race or racism is to try to frame it in terms of something else entirely unconnected, it’s probably worth spending some time thinking about why you can’t think about it in terms of race or racism." I wish there was an applause emoji. This is spot on. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious?" I hope he is being serious and I hope you are joking. To reject someone because you don't find them attractive is one thing. To reject them outright because of skin colour is racist. | |||
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"So if you're only interested in women, are you sexist?" No Heterosexual or lesbian | |||
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"I just sat and observed this thread for a while, to see how it would turn out. I’ve only been in this country for a few months and will admit to not knowing much about your culture. In America, we have a view of the UK as a land of racial equality. Some of the treatment I’ve received and comments here have shown me that isn’t the case. It’s a shame, yeah. But you won’t change the options of a brick wall. Is every country here in Europe like what I’ve seen here? " I wouldn't say this is necessarily representative mate. The post is going to bring out a certain element of Fab unfortunately. | |||
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"Posting such a thing on their profile tells me they have made their choice and would rather not say so via personal message. To avoid conversation and the need to find a nice way to say no, they try to eradicate such messages by stating their choice on their profile. It's a choice, their choice whether or not there's an element of racism. Let's not forget ........ My body, my choice before we go demanding people have casual sex with those they feel they'd rather not. The biggest thrill regarding sex is predominantly in the mind, if it does something for you, and between consenting adults, then go for it. If it doesn't, then don't. Politics has no place in sexual preference, be that the same or different colour, creed, gender, or whatever. " Asking people not to advertise racial preferences that can be interpreted as racist statements on their profiles is not in any way an insistence that people have casual sex with people they don’t want to. Why would you think it is? | |||
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"Some people will be racist, that's a given. Some people will be here to fulfil fantasies, and sometimes fantasies are very specific. Others won't meet groups of people due to past trauma. I won't meet people with the same name as my exs. Call me unfair if ya want. Call me names if that's what tickles ya pickle and makes you feel as though you've done your bit to stand up for those people who have those names through no fault of their own. 9 times out of 10 there's a grey area. People assume the worst in others and that things are race related for xyz reason. In some cases they will be. In others they won't. In some cases people won't meet those who have similarities to someone who has abused them, whether that be name, skin colour, eye colour, dress sense, aftershave, the way they walk, whatever. In most of those cases it isn't because they feel everyone with that name, skin colour, eye colour, dress sense, aftershave or way they walk is also gonna abuse them, it's because they're trying to protect themselves AND those people from being in a potentially awkward and triggering situation. I don't think that's coming from a bad place at all, I think it's coming from a sensitive one. Are those of us who won't meet potential trigger people arseholes? " The OP is asking why people are free to advertise racial preference, and correctly observed it’s casually racist. Nothing you’ve written would be changed by people not advertising racial preference on their profiles. Your preference, reasons for having that preference and freedom to choose partners based on that preference would remain the same. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. " Would this also mean that if someone stated that they only wanted to meet black or Asian people it would be considered overt racism? I think you are failing to see that everyone is has a right to personal choice and prefferance when it comes to who they meet, I for instance prefer women younger than myself, is this classed as ageism? And not I do not have a racial prefferance when it comes to who I would meet it's more about personallyity and intelligence for me than skin colour but each to their own. | |||
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"If this was a site of equal opportunities, everyone would enjoy equal opportunities in meeting " I remember a lady once saying on a forum similar to this thread my pussy is not a equal opportunity employer.As far as I am concerned Fabs is about making fantasy become reality if that means a white lady is interested in black guys or a black lady interested in white guys and that’s how they choose to put it on their profile then fair enough it is what it is. | |||
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"I love these posts full of white people deciding what I, as a black person, should or shouldn't find racist. Any of you guys ever actually thought of asking a black person what their preference might be before speaking "on their behalf"? It just sounds like an extension of white privilege to me. For the record, I do not find expressing a sexual preference on skin colour on this site to be racist. It can cut down on a lot of wasted time sending messages if people don't want to meet people of my skin colour. I have a preference for white, blonde-haired blue-eyed women on here. This is because, in my life, the vast majority of women I have known have been dark-skinned, brown-eyed and dark-haired. I'd like a change please! And that's my preference, sexually. " | |||
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"You can tell there is a high percentage of labour voters in this thread.. Also, offense is taken, not given. If someones preference, or words offend you, that says far more about you than them.. Thats a great way to off load responsibility for use of an insensitive phrase. You could have said black people or people of colour. ‘Blacks’ comes across as dehumanising. I personally don't care who people sleep with but a bit of respect and kindness with expression goes a long way. Blacks, is the plural with black, being the singular. The word "whites" has been used in this thread and I don't seem to recall you getting your panties in a twist? Double standards are a bitch huh? When you’ve caused someone offence, it’s often nicer to apologise and try to understand why you’ve offended them, rather than justifying why you think you should be able to continue to offend them. If you took offense to a word, it really isn't my concern. The inverse also applies." This response demonstrates privilege. Privilege allows people to be ignorant of what is offensive to a minority, and should not be being expressed or modelled to others, and to dismiss their points when people educate them. People with privilege need to overcome their defensiveness and learn to do better, if for no other reason than "there but for the grace of god". | |||
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"Some people will be racist, that's a given. Some people will be here to fulfil fantasies, and sometimes fantasies are very specific. Others won't meet groups of people due to past trauma. I won't meet people with the same name as my exs. Call me unfair if ya want. Call me names if that's what tickles ya pickle and makes you feel as though you've done your bit to stand up for those people who have those names through no fault of their own. 9 times out of 10 there's a grey area. People assume the worst in others and that things are race related for xyz reason. In some cases they will be. In others they won't. In some cases people won't meet those who have similarities to someone who has abused them, whether that be name, skin colour, eye colour, dress sense, aftershave, the way they walk, whatever. In most of those cases it isn't because they feel everyone with that name, skin colour, eye colour, dress sense, aftershave or way they walk is also gonna abuse them, it's because they're trying to protect themselves AND those people from being in a potentially awkward and triggering situation. I don't think that's coming from a bad place at all, I think it's coming from a sensitive one. Are those of us who won't meet potential trigger people arseholes? The OP is asking why people are free to advertise racial preference, and correctly observed it’s casually racist. Nothing you’ve written would be changed by people not advertising racial preference on their profiles. Your preference, reasons for having that preference and freedom to choose partners based on that preference would remain the same." If I wrote on my profile "no people named Bertram" (name changed obviously) all that would happen was those named Bertram would lie and say their name was something different. If people wouldn't lie, then I'd have it on my profile to save wasting peoples time. We all have the ability to take offence at things, and a lot of the time we do so without knowing where something has spawned from and why. We preach understanding and tolerance, yet rarely take the time to look beyond the perceived ism. Again, I go back to fantasies. If people are here solely to fulfil specific fantasies and are direct with the type of person they want, are they ist or are they after something/someone very specific? | |||
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"I love these posts full of white people deciding what I, as a black person, should or shouldn't find racist. Any of you guys ever actually thought of asking a black person what their preference might be before speaking "on their behalf"? It just sounds like an extension of white privilege to me. For the record, I do not find expressing a sexual preference on skin colour on this site to be racist. It can cut down on a lot of wasted time sending messages if people don't want to meet people of my skin colour. I have a preference for white, blonde-haired blue-eyed women on here. This is because, in my life, the vast majority of women I have known have been dark-skinned, brown-eyed and dark-haired. I'd like a change please! And that's my preference, sexually. " If that were the case, indeed it could be an extension of white privilege. However lots of my black friends and others here, have expressed the view that it is racist. I'm truly glad for you that you don't find it so. | |||
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"Some people will be racist, that's a given. Some people will be here to fulfil fantasies, and sometimes fantasies are very specific. Others won't meet groups of people due to past trauma. I won't meet people with the same name as my exs. Call me unfair if ya want. Call me names if that's what tickles ya pickle and makes you feel as though you've done your bit to stand up for those people who have those names through no fault of their own. 9 times out of 10 there's a grey area. People assume the worst in others and that things are race related for xyz reason. In some cases they will be. In others they won't. In some cases people won't meet those who have similarities to someone who has abused them, whether that be name, skin colour, eye colour, dress sense, aftershave, the way they walk, whatever. In most of those cases it isn't because they feel everyone with that name, skin colour, eye colour, dress sense, aftershave or way they walk is also gonna abuse them, it's because they're trying to protect themselves AND those people from being in a potentially awkward and triggering situation. I don't think that's coming from a bad place at all, I think it's coming from a sensitive one. Are those of us who won't meet potential trigger people arseholes? The OP is asking why people are free to advertise racial preference, and correctly observed it’s casually racist. Nothing you’ve written would be changed by people not advertising racial preference on their profiles. Your preference, reasons for having that preference and freedom to choose partners based on that preference would remain the same. If I wrote on my profile "no people named Bertram" (name changed obviously) all that would happen was those named Bertram would lie and say their name was something different. If people wouldn't lie, then I'd have it on my profile to save wasting peoples time. We all have the ability to take offence at things, and a lot of the time we do so without knowing where something has spawned from and why. We preach understanding and tolerance, yet rarely take the time to look beyond the perceived ism. Again, I go back to fantasies. If people are here solely to fulfil specific fantasies and are direct with the type of person they want, are they ist or are they after something/someone very specific? " Well that’s the question isn’t it - is it more acceptable on Fab for some people to ‘waste their time’ messaging people they don’t have any chance of meeting, or for casual racism to advertised? We would say the former is less acceptable - and as time on both sides is going to be ‘wasted’ with around 99% of messages anyway, it doesn’t seem that important compared with removing an element of casual racism. | |||
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"So if you're only interested in women, are you sexist?" Good point.... you could also say the same for age ranges, as they're ageist, and body shape as that's body shaming.... Maybe there should be no filters for colour, no filters for gender, no filters for age, nothing about body size/ shape, no filters for females/ males/ couples, etc, etc, etc.. And everyone's profiles should only say "looking for people to have sex with". Although maybe even that would be wrong..... | |||
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"I love these posts full of white people deciding what I, as a black person, should or shouldn't find racist. Any of you guys ever actually thought of asking a black person what their preference might be before speaking "on their behalf"? It just sounds like an extension of white privilege to me. For the record, I do not find expressing a sexual preference on skin colour on this site to be racist. It can cut down on a lot of wasted time sending messages if people don't want to meet people of my skin colour. I have a preference for white, blonde-haired blue-eyed women on here. This is because, in my life, the vast majority of women I have known have been dark-skinned, brown-eyed and dark-haired. I'd like a change please! And that's my preference, sexually. " And here's where the headfuck moment comes, where I question, isn't it racist in itself to do just that? Blanket racism kinda thing. Who decides what you should take offence to? Surely that's you?! Does it boil down to intent? Does it boil down to perceived intent? Does it boil down to perception? I find it incredibly confusing and I'm not afraid to admit it. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. " I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. | |||
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"It's obviously down to personal choice, but it's clear that some people need to think a bit more carefully about what words they use. " This | |||
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"Coincidentally, we have both discussed this in great detail very recently. Discrimination in any form based on the colour or ethnicity of a person IS morally wrong. Now. In the swinging world, it’s about finding others that you find attractive to have the most intimate times with, ie sex. We can’t all be attracted to everyone who come along and for many varied reasons. Looks. Weight. Body type. Smoking. Drinking. Smell. Social status to name a few. If we reject those people then we are accused of being an Ist or of having an Ism because someone is offended that we won’t swap bodily fluids with them. It is our right not to meet anyone who we don’t want to. End of! For us. It’s not about the colour of the skin. It’s about how they interact with us and others. It’s THEIR attitude. This is not based on generalisation but on OUR experience. SOME Black guys have such arrogance with the BBC thing that they think they are the best fuck that anyone can have. SOME Pakistani guys show no respect to the women and think it’s their right to treat them how they want. It’s all about what they want. SOME Indian couples who engage with you as a couple then monopolies the female and physically exclude the male. Yes! This has happened. So please excuse our preferences. We have a right to choose who we want to swing with. There are undesirable people of all skin colour out there including white. N&S xxxx" So do some white men, emphasising their whiteness as well as their size. So do some white men. That's a common complaint with any couples. I don't understand why you've mentioned these issues in relation to specific races? | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. " Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, " I think so too xx | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, I think so too xx" Agree 100% One of the dumbest threads ever. Some people look for any excuse | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, I think so too xx Agree 100% One of the dumbest threads ever. Some people look for any excuse " Does this make you feel some sense of accomplishment, mutually agreeing to condone casual racism? For the land of enlightenment, I’m rather disappointed. | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, I think so too xx Agree 100% One of the dumbest threads ever. Some people look for any excuse Does this make you feel some sense of accomplishment, mutually agreeing to condone casual racism? For the land of enlightenment, I’m rather disappointed. " Me 2! And ashamed! X | |||
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"Coincidentally, we have both discussed this in great detail very recently. Discrimination in any form based on the colour or ethnicity of a person IS morally wrong. Now. In the swinging world, it’s about finding others that you find attractive to have the most intimate times with, ie sex. We can’t all be attracted to everyone who come along and for many varied reasons. Looks. Weight. Body type. Smoking. Drinking. Smell. Social status to name a few. If we reject those people then we are accused of being an Ist or of having an Ism because someone is offended that we won’t swap bodily fluids with them. It is our right not to meet anyone who we don’t want to. End of! For us. It’s not about the colour of the skin. It’s about how they interact with us and others. It’s THEIR attitude. This is not based on generalisation but on OUR experience. SOME Black guys have such arrogance with the BBC thing that they think they are the best fuck that anyone can have. SOME Pakistani guys show no respect to the women and think it’s their right to treat them how they want. It’s all about what they want. SOME Indian couples who engage with you as a couple then monopolies the female and physically exclude the male. Yes! This has happened. So please excuse our preferences. We have a right to choose who we want to swing with. There are undesirable people of all skin colour out there including white. N&S xxxx So do some white men, emphasising their whiteness as well as their size. So do some white men. That's a common complaint with any couples. I don't understand why you've mentioned these issues in relation to specific races? " For goodness sake. Get over yourself! | |||
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"Coincidentally, we have both discussed this in great detail very recently. Discrimination in any form based on the colour or ethnicity of a person IS morally wrong. Now. In the swinging world, it’s about finding others that you find attractive to have the most intimate times with, ie sex. We can’t all be attracted to everyone who come along and for many varied reasons. Looks. Weight. Body type. Smoking. Drinking. Smell. Social status to name a few. If we reject those people then we are accused of being an Ist or of having an Ism because someone is offended that we won’t swap bodily fluids with them. It is our right not to meet anyone who we don’t want to. End of! For us. It’s not about the colour of the skin. It’s about how they interact with us and others. It’s THEIR attitude. This is not based on generalisation but on OUR experience. SOME Black guys have such arrogance with the BBC thing that they think they are the best fuck that anyone can have. SOME Pakistani guys show no respect to the women and think it’s their right to treat them how they want. It’s all about what they want. SOME Indian couples who engage with you as a couple then monopolies the female and physically exclude the male. Yes! This has happened. So please excuse our preferences. We have a right to choose who we want to swing with. There are undesirable people of all skin colour out there including white. N&S xxxx So do some white men, emphasising their whiteness as well as their size. So do some white men. That's a common complaint with any couples. I don't understand why you've mentioned these issues in relation to specific races? For goodness sake. Get over yourself!" | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, I think so too xx Agree 100% One of the dumbest threads ever. Some people look for any excuse Does this make you feel some sense of accomplishment, mutually agreeing to condone casual racism? For the land of enlightenment, I’m rather disappointed. Me 2! And ashamed! X" My point was people who feel the need to point this out all the time are the racist ones just trying to cores trouble | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, I think so too xx Agree 100% One of the dumbest threads ever. Some people look for any excuse Does this make you feel some sense of accomplishment, mutually agreeing to condone casual racism? For the land of enlightenment, I’m rather disappointed. Me 2! And ashamed! X My point was people who feel the need to point this out all the time are the racist ones just trying to cores trouble " What’s the alternative - people should just pretend casual racism doesn’t exist? They should be quiet so that people who are being casually racist shouldn’t feel uncomfortable? You know, if there wasn’t any casual racism, people wouldn’t be able to point it out all the time. | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, I think so too xx Agree 100% One of the dumbest threads ever. Some people look for any excuse Does this make you feel some sense of accomplishment, mutually agreeing to condone casual racism? For the land of enlightenment, I’m rather disappointed. Me 2! And ashamed! X My point was people who feel the need to point this out all the time are the racist ones just trying to cores trouble What’s the alternative - people should just pretend casual racism doesn’t exist? They should be quiet so that people who are being casually racist shouldn’t feel uncomfortable? You know, if there wasn’t any casual racism, people wouldn’t be able to point it out all the time." xx | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious?" I think it's the way/tone in which the preference is expressed that the OP's referring to. Ps people expressing such a preference might not be racist, they may well be, and are entitled to be if that's their way of thinking. | |||
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"Being asian on here i see many profiles saying no asian men i dont feel or think that person is being racist...just their choice of type of guy they not into and also saves my time and their time with sending unwanted messages" No, you can't be right. White people above know it to be racist and who are we to argue with them? We're just people of colour, and our opinion is wrong, apparently. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. Someones preference is not racism? If I don't want to sleep with blacks because I don't find them attractive, how is that racist? Are you being serious?" Saying you are not attracted everyone of a particular race is prejudice though. | |||
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"Being asian on here i see many profiles saying no asian men i dont feel or think that person is being racist...just their choice of type of guy they not into and also saves my time and their time with sending unwanted messages No, you can't be right. White people above know it to be racist and who are we to argue with them? We're just people of colour, and our opinion is wrong, apparently. " If you can’t acknowledge someone being racist to you, I’m honestly not sure where to begin. The very fact someone feels the need to exclude an entire race on their profile, but not chavs or people like that is the issue. It isn’t behavior of the individual being judged, it is expected characteristics based on race. | |||
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"I think trying to make these preferences into a racist thing is where the real problems are, I think so too xx Agree 100% One of the dumbest threads ever. Some people look for any excuse Does this make you feel some sense of accomplishment, mutually agreeing to condone casual racism? For the land of enlightenment, I’m rather disappointed. Me 2! And ashamed! X My point was people who feel the need to point this out all the time are the racist ones just trying to cores trouble People pointing out racism they observe or experience are racist and trying to cause trouble? I honestly couldn’t top the mental gymnastics of this one if I tried. " It's quite simple some people can turn everything into racism a like or dislikes is not racist its just what people prefer, I like tall women but that doesn't mean I dislike short ones | |||
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"Posting such a thing on their profile tells me they have made their choice and would rather not say so via personal message. To avoid conversation and the need to find a nice way to say no, they try to eradicate such messages by stating their choice on their profile. It's a choice, their choice whether or not there's an element of racism. Let's not forget ........ My body, my choice before we go demanding people have casual sex with those they feel they'd rather not. The biggest thrill regarding sex is predominantly in the mind, if it does something for you, and between consenting adults, then go for it. If it doesn't, then don't. Politics has no place in sexual preference, be that the same or different colour, creed, gender, or whatever. Asking people not to advertise racial preferences that can be interpreted as racist statements on their profiles is not in any way an insistence that people have casual sex with people they don’t want to. Why would you think it is?" My mention wasn't aimed there, nor do I suggest it was. I just waffled a little is all | |||
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"I haven't read the whole thread, bit what I did read depressed me. All I will say to those people who use preference as an excuse for their racism - conciously or unconsciously - how can you possibly say you do not find a single person of the race you are excluding attractive? It's the sweeping generalisation that upset. Why not just make a judgment on their pictures? Of course you could still make decisions based on prejudice, but you're not announcing to the world, or upsetting anyone, by doing so. And that's my penny's worth. Just be better. " You have nobody undet 40 on your profile. Ageist then? You have tall as a requirement. Your disctiminating against small people? You state about three times you "WILL NOT" meet smokers or vapers. I assune its ok for you to have preferences and not others? | |||
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"I haven't read the whole thread, bit what I did read depressed me. All I will say to those people who use preference as an excuse for their racism - conciously or unconsciously - how can you possibly say you do not find a single person of the race you are excluding attractive? It's the sweeping generalisation that upset. Why not just make a judgment on their pictures? Of course you could still make decisions based on prejudice, but you're not announcing to the world, or upsetting anyone, by doing so. And that's my penny's worth. Just be better. " | |||
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"I haven't read the whole thread, bit what I did read depressed me. All I will say to those people who use preference as an excuse for their racism - conciously or unconsciously - how can you possibly say you do not find a single person of the race you are excluding attractive? It's the sweeping generalisation that upset. Why not just make a judgment on their pictures? Of course you could still make decisions based on prejudice, but you're not announcing to the world, or upsetting anyone, by doing so. And that's my penny's worth. Just be better. You have nobody undet 40 on your profile. Ageist then? You have tall as a requirement. Your disctiminating against small people? You state about three times you "WILL NOT" meet smokers or vapers. I assune its ok for you to have preferences and not others?" and here we are | |||
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"Being asian on here i see many profiles saying no asian men i dont feel or think that person is being racist...just their choice of type of guy they not into and also saves my time and their time with sending unwanted messages No, you can't be right. White people above know it to be racist and who are we to argue with them? We're just people of colour, and our opinion is wrong, apparently. If you can’t acknowledge someone being racist to you, I’m honestly not sure where to begin. The very fact someone feels the need to exclude an entire race on their profile, but not chavs or people like that is the issue. It isn’t behavior of the individual being judged, it is expected characteristics based on race. " I don't need to acknowledge someone being racist to me, I have lots of white people to do that for me I just get on with living my life, tackling the issues which are truly racist and not getting overly offended by minor racial issues that I find petty, and this one is. Thanks for all your help though, but you don't speak for me | |||
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"I haven't read the whole thread, bit what I did read depressed me. All I will say to those people who use preference as an excuse for their racism - conciously or unconsciously - how can you possibly say you do not find a single person of the race you are excluding attractive? It's the sweeping generalisation that upset. Why not just make a judgment on their pictures? Of course you could still make decisions based on prejudice, but you're not announcing to the world, or upsetting anyone, by doing so. And that's my penny's worth. Just be better. You have nobody undet 40 on your profile. Ageist then? You have tall as a requirement. Your disctiminating against small people? You state about three times you "WILL NOT" meet smokers or vapers. I assune its ok for you to have preferences and not others?" Oh, and a little peek at my veris will show that I have met people outside of my "Tall, over 40, non smokers" preferences. Because, ya know, I judge the person individually. Which was the point I was making that was sadly lost on you. But hey, you crack on. You're obviously a delight | |||
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"I haven't read the whole thread, bit what I did read depressed me. All I will say to those people who use preference as an excuse for their racism - conciously or unconsciously - how can you possibly say you do not find a single person of the race you are excluding attractive? It's the sweeping generalisation that upset. Why not just make a judgment on their pictures? Of course you could still make decisions based on prejudice, but you're not announcing to the world, or upsetting anyone, by doing so. And that's my penny's worth. Just be better. You have nobody undet 40 on your profile. Ageist then? You have tall as a requirement. Your disctiminating against small people? You state about three times you "WILL NOT" meet smokers or vapers. I assune its ok for you to have preferences and not others? For an "Educated" man, you appear to be very much the opposite So your response isn't to actually counter his comments or dispute them, it's to insult him. How very "educated" of you. I'm not pretending to be educated. I just find it difficult and soul destroying arguing with brick walls. But thanks for your assessment of me " To correct your assertion, I replied to your statement with a counter-logical response, and you had no answer other than to resort to petty insults. There is indeed a brickwall here, and it appears that I am speaking to one. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. " I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx" It’s easy to say when you weren’t the one being offended. Let someone insult you and then see how you react | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx" You're sufficiently interested to contribute to this thread. | |||
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" It's quite simple some people can turn everything into racism a like or dislikes is not racist its just what people prefer, I like tall women but that doesn't mean I dislike short ones True but expanding your analogy people with a particular dislike for short people will express that hatred as a 'preference' for tall people! " Well you have just proved my original point, that some people (will corse trouble over anything) and some people will take everything the wrong way, | |||
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"And this isn’t what the OP asked. He stated that he has seen “whites only” on profiles. Is this statement racist? Yes, because if you don’t know how that exact phrase or slogan has been used historically then you need to educate yourself. Is not wanting to play with black or asian people racist? No, however feeling the need to state such makes people question how can you find every single member of a race unatractive?" You sound like you write for the guardian. It is mindnumbing to read what you write. If a woman does not want to meet white men, it is in bother her and I's best interest to state this on the profile. It prevents 100's of white men wasting their time messaging her, and prevents her having to delete hundereds of messages from people she has no intention of engaging with, let alone meeting. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx It’s easy to say when you weren’t the one being offended. Let someone insult you and then see how you react" Most people stop getting offended at words when they leave, you know, school. Most of us grow up after that. | |||
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" It's quite simple some people can turn everything into racism a like or dislikes is not racist its just what people prefer, I like tall women but that doesn't mean I dislike short ones True but expanding your analogy people with a particular dislike for short people will express that hatred as a 'preference' for tall people! Well you have just proved my original point, that some people (will corse trouble over anything) and some people will take everything the wrong way, " “Whites Only” has one way to take it. | |||
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"And this isn’t what the OP asked. He stated that he has seen “whites only” on profiles. Is this statement racist? Yes, because if you don’t know how that exact phrase or slogan has been used historically then you need to educate yourself. Is not wanting to play with black or asian people racist? No, however feeling the need to state such makes people question how can you find every single member of a race unatractive? You sound like you write for the guardian. It is mindnumbing to read what you write. If a woman does not want to meet white men, it is in bother her and I's best interest to state this on the profile. It prevents 100's of white men wasting their time messaging her, and prevents her having to delete hundereds of messages from people she has no intention of engaging with, let alone meeting." Do you believe there's a possibility that someone black or white, expressing a racial preference could be doing so for racist reasons?! | |||
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"Coincidentally, we have both discussed this in great detail very recently. Discrimination in any form based on the colour or ethnicity of a person IS morally wrong. Now. In the swinging world, it’s about finding others that you find attractive to have the most intimate times with, ie sex. We can’t all be attracted to everyone who come along and for many varied reasons. Looks. Weight. Body type. Smoking. Drinking. Smell. Social status to name a few. If we reject those people then we are accused of being an Ist or of having an Ism because someone is offended that we won’t swap bodily fluids with them. It is our right not to meet anyone who we don’t want to. End of! For us. It’s not about the colour of the skin. It’s about how they interact with us and others. It’s THEIR attitude. This is not based on generalisation but on OUR experience. SOME Black guys have such arrogance with the BBC thing that they think they are the best fuck that anyone can have. SOME Pakistani guys show no respect to the women and think it’s their right to treat them how they want. It’s all about what they want. SOME Indian couples who engage with you as a couple then monopolies the female and physically exclude the male. Yes! This has happened. So please excuse our preferences. We have a right to choose who we want to swing with. There are undesirable people of all skin colour out there including white. N&S xxxx So do some white men, emphasising their whiteness as well as their size. So do some white men. That's a common complaint with any couples. I don't understand why you've mentioned these issues in relation to specific races? For goodness sake. Get over yourself! Ah. No argument left so resorting to personal attack. What a pity." No. Absolutely not. It’s the same old thing. Not many if any black peoples making comments on this post. It’s always the Do Gooders and Snowflakes that seem to be continually sprouting up. People who are not directly affected but like to to spout their shit. | |||
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"And this isn’t what the OP asked. He stated that he has seen “whites only” on profiles. Is this statement racist? Yes, because if you don’t know how that exact phrase or slogan has been used historically then you need to educate yourself. Is not wanting to play with black or asian people racist? No, however feeling the need to state such makes people question how can you find every single member of a race unatractive?" It's possible to not be attracted to a race of people, when I was younger I was only attracted to black guys but that didn't stop me interacting with others outside of that. Everyone has a preference and they are allowed to have that, just like a couple said there are several profiles by black people that just have a sexual appeal for white women. That's not gonna bother me and wouldn’t stop me being socially interacted with them either. I don't understand why people can't have their preferences and be left to it. Everyone is different and that's what makes the world go round xx | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. " Read the thread - it has been explained many, many times. If you can’t understand the concept from reading what’s here already, you’re never going to get it. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx It’s easy to say when you weren’t the one being offended. Let someone insult you and then see how you react Most people stop getting offended at words when they leave, you know, school. Most of us grow up after that." We stop reacting to it. That doesn’t mean we aren’t insulted still. Also if you want a better world be the change you want to see, keyword being change not try silencing people with your right to offend | |||
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"And this isn’t what the OP asked. He stated that he has seen “whites only” on profiles. Is this statement racist? Yes, because if you don’t know how that exact phrase or slogan has been used historically then you need to educate yourself. Is not wanting to play with black or asian people racist? No, however feeling the need to state such makes people question how can you find every single member of a race unatractive? It's possible to not be attracted to a race of people, when I was younger I was only attracted to black guys but that didn't stop me interacting with others outside of that. Everyone has a preference and they are allowed to have that, just like a couple said there are several profiles by black people that just have a sexual appeal for white women. That's not gonna bother me and wouldn’t stop me being socially interacted with them either. I don't understand why people can't have their preferences and be left to it. Everyone is different and that's what makes the world go round xx " If you read the thread, you’ll see that no-one is saying people aren’t allowed to have ‘preferences’ - it’s been stated many times now. What may be considered casually racist is when people advertise their prejudices - or ‘preferences’, whichever you prefer. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx It’s easy to say when you weren’t the one being offended. Let someone insult you and then see how you react Most people stop getting offended at words when they leave, you know, school. Most of us grow up after that. We stop reacting to it. That doesn’t mean we aren’t insulted still. Also if you want a better world be the change you want to see, keyword being change not try silencing people with your right to offend" If you take offense or are insulted by words, that is completely 100% your problem. And to suggest you can change the world by pandering to people who are scared of words is a little bit of a strech. | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx It’s easy to say when you weren’t the one being offended. Let someone insult you and then see how you react" I wouldn't be offended if I saw a white, Asian, oriental person's profile say exclude they weren't attracted to black women and the same if a black guys profile said that | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx It’s easy to say when you weren’t the one being offended. Let someone insult you and then see how you react Most people stop getting offended at words when they leave, you know, school. Most of us grow up after that. We stop reacting to it. That doesn’t mean we aren’t insulted still. Also if you want a better world be the change you want to see, keyword being change not try silencing people with your right to offend If you take offense or are insulted by words, that is completely 100% your problem. And to suggest you can change the world by pandering to people who are scared of words is a little bit of a strech." By having a certain level of diplomacy though and understanding someone elses point of view you can cool the discussion to a point where dialogue occurs and not childish insults. From Your favourite future guardian writer | |||
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"And this isn’t what the OP asked. He stated that he has seen “whites only” on profiles. Is this statement racist? Yes, because if you don’t know how that exact phrase or slogan has been used historically then you need to educate yourself. Is not wanting to play with black or asian people racist? No, however feeling the need to state such makes people question how can you find every single member of a race unatractive? It's possible to not be attracted to a race of people, when I was younger I was only attracted to black guys but that didn't stop me interacting with others outside of that. Everyone has a preference and they are allowed to have that, just like a couple said there are several profiles by black people that just have a sexual appeal for white women. That's not gonna bother me and wouldn’t stop me being socially interacted with them either. I don't understand why people can't have their preferences and be left to it. Everyone is different and that's what makes the world go round xx If you read the thread, you’ll see that no-one is saying people aren’t allowed to have ‘preferences’ - it’s been stated many times now. What may be considered casually racist is when people advertise their prejudices - or ‘preferences’, whichever you prefer." | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx You're sufficiently interested to contribute to this thread." This is not the only thread I have contributed on and don't see the reason why you need to highlight my contribution to this thread | |||
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" No. Absolutely not. It’s the same old thing. Not many if any black peoples making comments on this post. It’s always the Do Gooders and Snowflakes that seem to be continually sprouting up. People who are not directly affected but like to to spout their shit. You're contributing to this thread. You're white. Why then is your opinion any more relevant than the white 'do gooders' & 'snowflakes'? There are non white contributors who take a different view to yours, does this mean your posts are of less value?" This! White people aren’t fighting other white people as someone above mentioned, they are seeing the injustice and micro-agresiveness of some other white people and calling them out on it. Hence last summer the word ally came into play | |||
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"I’m curious, why is it acceptable to post meetings or have statements on your profile saying things like “Whites Only” or something along those lines? I know everyone has their own taste but the overt racism of it just surprises me. I dont have sex with guys and say as much on our account. Using your logic that make me overtly homophobic right? Why oh why do we have this hyper woke nonsense on fab? It's a preference. Like it or not, ethnicity does play in some peoples sexual requirements. Some women will only meet black guys just as some wont. I fail to see where the racism.is or of what concern it is to you. Casual racism = ‘hyper woke nonsense’. We’re hearing it all today. Please, feel free to explain how it's "casual racism" and I'll feel free to point you towards several black guy accounts with "white women only" tagged on them. Do you feel like throwing the "casual racism" remarks at those guys as well or will you accept it's just a preference? It's all nonsense spouted by silly people with nothing better to do than get offended at the slightest thing. I agree people get offended at the slightest thing xx It’s easy to say when you weren’t the one being offended. Let someone insult you and then see how you react I wouldn't be offended if I saw a white, Asian, oriental person's profile say exclude they weren't attracted to black women and the same if a black guys profile said that " Thinking back, there was a lady I kinda knew and was so attracted to. She made it very clear after telling me though she finds me cute, she's only interested in Women or Black Men. Was I offended? Damn right I were, I always hated being called Cute. Though kinda miss out now I'm getting older | |||
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"Coincidentally, we have both discussed this in great detail very recently. Discrimination in any form based on the colour or ethnicity of a person IS morally wrong. Now. In the swinging world, it’s about finding others that you find attractive to have the most intimate times with, ie sex. We can’t all be attracted to everyone who come along and for many varied reasons. Looks. Weight. Body type. Smoking. Drinking. Smell. Social status to name a few. If we reject those people then we are accused of being an Ist or of having an Ism because someone is offended that we won’t swap bodily fluids with them. It is our right not to meet anyone who we don’t want to. End of! For us. It’s not about the colour of the skin. It’s about how they interact with us and others. It’s THEIR attitude. This is not based on generalisation but on OUR experience. SOME Black guys have such arrogance with the BBC thing that they think they are the best fuck that anyone can have. SOME Pakistani guys show no respect to the women and think it’s their right to treat them how they want. It’s all about what they want. SOME Indian couples who engage with you as a couple then monopolies the female and physically exclude the male. Yes! This has happened. So please excuse our preferences. We have a right to choose who we want to swing with. There are undesirable people of all skin colour out there including white. N&S xxxx So do some white men, emphasising their whiteness as well as their size. So do some white men. That's a common complaint with any couples. I don't understand why you've mentioned these issues in relation to specific races? For goodness sake. Get over yourself! Ah. No argument left so resorting to personal attack. What a pity. No. Absolutely not. It’s the same old thing. Not many if any black peoples making comments on this post. It’s always the Do Gooders and Snowflakes that seem to be continually sprouting up. People who are not directly affected but like to to spout their shit. " Absolutely . The professional protesters who will turn up just for the anarchy of it all. Because they have cock all better to do | |||
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"And this isn’t what the OP asked. He stated that he has seen “whites only” on profiles. Is this statement racist? Yes, because if you don’t know how that exact phrase or slogan has been used historically then you need to educate yourself. Is not wanting to play with black or asian people racist? No, however feeling the need to state such makes people question how can you find every single member of a race unatractive? You sound like you write for the guardian. It is mindnumbing to read what you write. If a woman does not want to meet white men, it is in bother her and I's best interest to state this on the profile. It prevents 100's of white men wasting their time messaging her, and prevents her having to delete hundereds of messages from people she has no intention of engaging with, let alone meeting." As you aren’t a woman I guess that you’re unaware that most things that you write on your profile are completely ignored by a large percentage anyway | |||
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