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By *oveAndBang OP   Couple
over a year ago

where the mood takes us

We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I think it's just a word people use to give a general description of themselves.

It makes a lot of people really cross though because they feel it's implying something about them personally.

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

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By *nvincible ButterflyWoman
over a year ago

LEEDS


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

I agree

Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic"

Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? "

It just tells me that like most.... They work for a living!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? "

I made a thread on this a couple of weeks ago.

Got so many different answers.

Here are some of them...

Some saying it's because of ego and like to elevate themselves on here above others.

Might be a nurse or a copper etc.

Make themselves feel better and validate them being on this site.

Some with a high end job.

Etc.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

In the fabs context it's meaningless. A bit like those silly legal warnings...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

I agree

Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic"

Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening "

There are a few professions that have strict rules in their work contracts about public identity. They can share a face pic privately but obviously not good to have it plastered on here next to nude body parts. Many just use it as an excuse so they can just perve other pics anonymously.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The definition is "A person competent or skilled in a particular activity. But a professional is more than a dictionary definition. ... It places a strong emphasis on the integrity and competence of its members, and therefore requires them to conduct themselves in accordance with a Code of Conduct."

So really looking at lawyers, doctors, nurses etc... However, aot of people who have a certain education standard (degree) also tend to class themselves as "Professional"...

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By * AND R 777Couple
over a year ago

Teesside

I think it's a polite way of saying there is a standard of people they would like to meet,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a bunch of up there own arses implying that they are better than us rif -raf,

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By *ustustwo.1965Couple
over a year ago

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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

We see it exactly the same as this.

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By *rgoodnbadMan
over a year ago

greenock

Maybe looking for others with a similar mindset, separating the elite from the chav.

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By *eventysixCouple
over a year ago

glossop


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"
agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps they mean they charge for sex

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

I think if someone has an issue about another person's description then it invariably says more about the person belly aching or getting uptight about it

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By *eventysixCouple
over a year ago

glossop


"Perhaps they mean they charge for sex "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

I agree

Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic"

Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening "

Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most.

However, I’ve always been a rebel haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't really see anything wrong with calling yourself professional

Not much different to calling yourself an experienced swinger really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple
over a year ago

Watford

That word immediately puts me off a profile. It's almost an "I'm rich and successful so don't bother if you're not like me".

In our profile, we emphasise our normal down to earth non-judgemental and basically working-class credentials.

Maybe we're all happiest being amongst people like ourselves in terms of social interaction.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications."

Exactly this

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

There's a certain irony to many of the responses here

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple
over a year ago

Watford


"Maybe looking for others with a similar mindset, separating the elite from the chav. "

Being a working class person who isn't classed as "professional", doesn't make that person a "chav".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe looking for others with a similar mindset, separating the elite from the chav.

Being a working class person who isn't classed as "professional", doesn't make that person a "chav"."

I'm a mixture of the 2 along with other things

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

I work with some unbelievably clever and highly skilled people who would fall into the category of professional people but the one thing about them is that they wouldn't ever describe themselves as professional, it would be seen as quite conceited and dare I sat it amateurish.

I think it's mostly used by those who wish to elevate themselves above others where they wouldn't actually stand out normally in a sea of similar people to themselves.

Am I a professional? You bet your life I am in the field I am in. Would I ever describe myself as that....not a damn chance.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications."

This.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional vagina licker right here

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"I work with some unbelievably clever and highly skilled people who would fall into the category of professional people but the one thing about them is that they wouldn't ever describe themselves as professional, it would be seen as quite conceited and dare I sat it amateurish.

I think it's mostly used by those who wish to elevate themselves above others where they wouldn't actually stand out normally in a sea of similar people to themselves.

Am I a professional? You bet your life I am in the field I am in. Would I ever describe myself as that....not a damn chance."

Exactly, lad who used to work us said his father who organised the lord lieutenant of the counties diary said if you are somebody you dont need to keep telling people.

I knew a old guy who bought a new top of the range bmw every two years but walked around in old clothes and looked down and out

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

I agree

Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic"

Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening

Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most.

However, I’ve always been a rebel haha"

Your not the better looking half of the chuckle brothers are you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

I agree

Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic"

Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening

Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most.

However, I’ve always been a rebel haha

Your not the better looking half of the chuckle brothers are you "

Well one of them is dead

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? "

Personally I'm not really bothered if people do or don't put professional on their profiles, it's just a word they choose to discribe themselves I don't think they have any malicious intent in choosing to use it.

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By *oveAndBang OP   Couple
over a year ago

where the mood takes us


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it?

Personally I'm not really bothered if people do or don't put professional on their profiles, it's just a word they choose to discribe themselves I don't think they have any malicious intent in choosing to use it."

We're not bothered too although it just makes us wonder why. We don't really care if someone's bricklayer, prime minister or unemployed as long as that person is respectful and have a lot of things in common with us. You can wear designer clothes or work uniform but idea of this website is that we'll end up naked so it makes no difference after all

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications."

You comparing a profession with Swinging, no comparison.

Doctors etc earn their profession, they don't self proclaim it.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

Really? You haven't noticed they call themselves "doctor" and have certificates on the wall.

After all, how many swingers on fab either call themselves "sexy", "well hung" or "thruster" or put it in their profile. Swingers are just as judgemental as anyone else, as this thread shows, and inverted snobbery is just as rife as snobbery here.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

I agree

Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic"

Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening

Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most.

However, I’ve always been a rebel haha

Your not the better looking half of the chuckle brothers are you "

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging..."

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead? "

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...

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By *eyondhornyMan
over a year ago

Farnborough

I did actually use the "professional" qualifier until seeing this thread. Made me think a bit about why I had done it and what I was trying to say about myself.

Turns out it's a bit of a non essential phrase for me and I didn't need it.

Fully respect anyone who wants to use it and that it could mean different things to different people.

Does it now put me off anyone? No.

Does this word trigger me in any way? No.

Have a great Sunday everyone.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses..."

Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...

Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?"

Now that is what we're professionals at!

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications."

What are the years of training and accepted qualifications relevant to swinging?

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications.

What are the years of training and accepted qualifications relevant to swinging? "

Exactly our point!

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Puts me off.

I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe.

Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is.

I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't understand why some are so down on it. As someone's already mentioned, there are loads of information/descriptions in profiles that are clearly untrue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?"
. That’s very low ............. Lots of people on universal credit at the moment .. for reasons beyond their control.. even professionals ....

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By *irtySekretsCouple
over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent


"I think it's a polite way of saying there is a standard of people they would like to meet, "

This

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?. That’s very low ............. Lots of people on universal credit at the moment .. for reasons beyond their control.. even professionals .... "

I agree with you guys on this, the same as I am a "proffesional" IT network systems administrator that is now on universal credit because I chose to give up my career to become an "unpaid" carer for my mother because that was more important to me than my carer.

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

Career

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...

Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?

Now that is what we're professionals at!"

Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?"

Please tell us what is wrong with people on Universal Credit.

When you've done that, please also tell us what makes all people on Universal Credit exactly the same that you can judge them as a homogenous mass.

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By *eedsmale36Man
over a year ago

Leeds


"Maybe looking for others with a similar mindset, separating the elite from the chav.

Being a working class person who isn't classed as "professional", doesn't make that person a "chav".

I'm a mixture of the 2 along with other things "

Is wearing Redbok classics one of them ?

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

In my profile I use the word in the correct context - before I get the fire storm I "did not" use it to try and get something or laid, I used to describe me nothing more.

Professional Photographer - how I earned a living.

Not that anyone actually believed it - that's fabism.

Truth is a lie and a lie is the truth

Many do because they feel word they feel sets them apart from others to gain an advantage.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?

Please tell us what is wrong with people on Universal Credit.

When you've done that, please also tell us what makes all people on Universal Credit exactly the same that you can judge them as a homogenous mass. "
. There is nothing wrong with people on Universal Credit.Plenty of them are employed on zero hours contracts or under 16 hours.Also some are claiming it for housing or children as now there is no housing benefits or tax credits for new claimants

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...

Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?

Now that is what we're professionals at!

Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now "

Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed!

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...

Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?

Now that is what we're professionals at!

Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now

Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed!"

*ahem* “Now that is what we're professionals at!”

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...

Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?

Now that is what we're professionals at!

Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now

Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed!

*ahem* “Now that is what we're professionals at!”"

Well, we're not professional grammar police members that's for sure!

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Puts me off.

I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe.

Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is.

I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest."

The fact they felt the need to put it on their profile would suggest pretty clearly to me that they *are* making judgements based on exactly that.

Ugh. I *hate* the idea that someone's worth as a person is somehow dictated by how much money they earn.

You've also touched on an important and unspoken power imbalance – privileged people unthinkingly toss around sums of money that in themselves are exclusionary to those of us who are less fortunate.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Puts me off.

I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe.

Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is.

I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest.

The fact they felt the need to put it on their profile would suggest pretty clearly to me that they *are* making judgements based on exactly that.

Ugh. I *hate* the idea that someone's worth as a person is somehow dictated by how much money they earn.

You've also touched on an important and unspoken power imbalance – privileged people unthinkingly toss around sums of money that in themselves are exclusionary to those of us who are less fortunate. "

They might not be judging me tho, their ideal night out and meet may be at a swanky posh place. I don't meet the criteria of it being in my pay grade and that's just that. They could think I'm one pretty cool mofo, but just not meet criteria and I'm ok with that.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...

Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?

Now that is what we're professionals at!

Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now

Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed!

*ahem* “Now that is what we're professionals at!”

Well, we're not professional grammar police members that's for sure!"

Haha and we love you for it

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By *aughtycp1Couple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

There is a large spectrum of people on fab. We use the term to describe the type of people we are. If people are offended by it that is their problem. We like meeting a similar class of person to ourselves x

Mrs N

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By *irtySekretsCouple
over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent

In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing.

An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate.

However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes.

We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes.

As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property.

Professional means nothing in the swinging world.

Long may it continue

Xxxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahh,the monthly professional bashing thread

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By *harAndBryCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough / Stamford

Well in sport, you're an amateur until you get paid for it when you turn professional. So I'm guessing on Fab, those of that are doing it for the fun are matures and those that all themselves professional are charging for it

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Puts me off.

I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe.

Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is.

I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest.

The fact they felt the need to put it on their profile would suggest pretty clearly to me that they *are* making judgements based on exactly that.

Ugh. I *hate* the idea that someone's worth as a person is somehow dictated by how much money they earn.

You've also touched on an important and unspoken power imbalance – privileged people unthinkingly toss around sums of money that in themselves are exclusionary to those of us who are less fortunate.

They might not be judging me tho, their ideal night out and meet may be at a swanky posh place. I don't meet the criteria of it being in my pay grade and that's just that. They could think I'm one pretty cool mofo, but just not meet criteria and I'm ok with that.

"

If they like you that much, and they're loaded enough for the swanky posh place, they can damn well buy your dinner and drinks!

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"There is a large spectrum of people on fab. We use the term to describe the type of people we are. If people are offended by it that is their problem. We like meeting a similar class of person to ourselves x

Mrs N"

Well, at least you're open about it being class-based discrimination.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? "

It doesn't phase me either way but at least spell it correctly if you're going to put it on there

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Well in sport, you're an amateur until you get paid for it when you turn professional. So I'm guessing on Fab, those of that are doing it for the fun are matures and those that all themselves professional are charging for it "

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By *ovelaughliveCouple
over a year ago

Oldham

For us its our way of saying why we have no face pics open for all to see!! We dont fancy everyone at work knowing were swingers!! Were in jobs where it could be frowned upon! Were more than happy to send pics to people were chatting with x

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it?

It doesn't phase me either way but at least spell it correctly if you're going to put it on there "

If you're going to publicly pull someone else up on their spelling, at least get the "phase / faze" thing right. Sure, they're homophonous, but they're not the same word.

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"For us its our way of saying why we have no face pics open for all to see!! We dont fancy everyone at work knowing were swingers!! Were in jobs where it could be frowned upon! Were more than happy to send pics to people were chatting with x"

In what jobs is swinging not frowned up?

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By *ovelaughliveCouple
over a year ago

Oldham


"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing.

An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate.

However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes.

We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes.

As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property.

Professional means nothing in the swinging world.

Long may it continue

Xxxxxxx"

Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

Professional monthly bashing thread as was posted earlier - wouldn't be FAB without one .

Many people are professionals for many different reasons. I put mine on cos I used to get shitstom and accused of BS etc etc, so it was a case of if you want to take a swipe at me bring in on That's why I chose to advertise the fact.

The question has always been, not doubting they are professionals , but why need to advertise the fact on your profile and to what end.

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By *ersey GirlCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Is says more about the people it annoys than the people stating it on their profile

R

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By *ovelaughliveCouple
over a year ago

Oldham


"Is says more about the people it annoys than the people stating it on their profile

R"

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Your profession doesn’t define you. What defines you is how you behave and respect others. If there’s no connection then it doesn’t matter what you do it won’t change.

It a bit like profiles who wear uniforms as well and try to use that to attract attention.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing.

An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate.

However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes.

We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes.

As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property.

Professional means nothing in the swinging world.

Long may it continue

Xxxxxxx

Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us "

After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand?

If anyone hears about a missing sausage on the news......give the police this message haha

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By *ovelaughliveCouple
over a year ago

Oldham


"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing.

An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate.

However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes.

We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes.

As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property.

Professional means nothing in the swinging world.

Long may it continue

Xxxxxxx

Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us

After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand?

If anyone hears about a missing sausage on the news......give the police this message haha"

Exactly why people shouldn't judge "professional people as stuck up their own arses or thinking they're above others!!

You know us and we're far from that we're both down to earth people who as long as people respect us we respect others regardless of status!!

Im sorry I don't fancy all of oldham knowing who we are or work, and seeing my fanny!!

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing.

An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate.

However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes.

We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes.

As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property.

Professional means nothing in the swinging world.

Long may it continue

Xxxxxxx

Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us

After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand?

If anyone hears about a missing sausage on the news......give the police this message haha

Exactly why people shouldn't judge "professional people as stuck up their own arses or thinking they're above others!!

You know us and we're far from that we're both down to earth people who as long as people respect us we respect others regardless of status!!

Im sorry I don't fancy all of oldham knowing who we are or work, and seeing my fanny!! "

Nope I agree, you two are some of the most down to earth, genuine people I’ve ever met on fab x

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By *ovelaughliveCouple
over a year ago

Oldham


"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing.

An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate.

However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes.

We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes.

As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property.

Professional means nothing in the swinging world.

Long may it continue

Xxxxxxx

Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us

After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand?

If anyone hears about a missing sausage on the news......give the police this message haha

Exactly why people shouldn't judge "professional people as stuck up their own arses or thinking they're above others!!

You know us and we're far from that we're both down to earth people who as long as people respect us we respect others regardless of status!!

Im sorry I don't fancy all of oldham knowing who we are or work, and seeing my fanny!!

Nope I agree, you two are some of the most down to earth, genuine people I’ve ever met on fab x"

Awe thankyou and thats because you are also a great guy

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? "

I'd assumed it was about either suggestion that they would appreciate some discretion or that they were aiming to swing with in a particular socio-economic group.

No swingers on less than £50k.

But it could just be a throw away word with no real thought behind it.

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By *irtySekretsCouple
over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent

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By *ams12345Man
over a year ago

london

Lol this forum triggered a lot people, but in reality no ones going to put unprofessional lol i think it’s to make themselves sound a little fancy lool but to me it doesn’t mean nothing, you could be a professional knob head for all we know lol

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"Lol this forum triggered a lot people, but in reality no ones going to put unprofessional lol i think it’s to make themselves sound a little fancy lool but to me it doesn’t mean nothing, you could be a professional knob head for all we know lol"

What's the pay rate for being a professional knobhead?

Does it have a good bonus scheme?

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple
over a year ago

Watford


"There is a large spectrum of people on fab. We use the term to describe the type of people we are. If people are offended by it that is their problem. We like meeting a similar class of person to ourselves x

Mrs N"
So you're a better class of person than a non-professional?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it?

It doesn't phase me either way but at least spell it correctly if you're going to put it on there

If you're going to publicly pull someone else up on their spelling, at least get the "phase / faze" thing right. Sure, they're homophonous, but they're not the same word. "

I haven't publicly pulled anyone up. There was no naming and shaming of any profile names.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I've never understood the need to claim being a professional person or couple.

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By *ucelleCouple
over a year ago

Bishops Stortford

I have had messages from ‘professionals’ who cannot spell or even form a sentence. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have had messages from ‘professionals’ who cannot spell or even form a sentence. Lol"

Yes had this too. Fortunately, I don't claim to be one although it's one of the few words I can spell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a large spectrum of people on fab. We use the term to describe the type of people we are. If people are offended by it that is their problem. We like meeting a similar class of person to ourselves x

Mrs N

Well, at least you're open about it being class-based discrimination. "

That's not discrimination

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By *ot - CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Next time someone says to us I'm a professional, I'll ask Professional what?

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

It's interesting, and quite telling, that the anti-professional brigade on this thread are far more judgemental, critical, aggressive, and in some cases nastier, than the professionals. Perhaps that is the real difference between them.

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By *oveAndBang OP   Couple
over a year ago

where the mood takes us

There's so much negative emotions in this thread that we regret that we asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

Yes, that’s pretty much a good indicator sometimes.

It’s also amusing that they sometimes describe themselves as a ‘professional couple’ which makes me wonder if some of us must be just ‘amateur couples’ and don’t get paid for being in a relationship lol

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By *oveAndBang OP   Couple
over a year ago

where the mood takes us

And by the way, we both professionals ourselves so the we haven't asked to provoke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Next time someone says to us I'm a professional, I'll ask Professional what? "

Exactly

Crime is a profession for some

A lucrative one at that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it?

It doesn't phase me either way but at least spell it correctly if you're going to put it on there "

Yes that’s often very telling too lol

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"It's interesting, and quite telling, that the anti-professional brigade on this thread are far more judgemental, critical, aggressive, and in some cases nastier, than the professionals. Perhaps that is the real difference between them."

Ah yes, the "So much for the tolerant left" / "NO U" / "Maybe if you were nicer, the police wouldn't murder you" / "Anti-racists are the real racists" argument. Yuck.

1. Privileged people do a problematic thing.

2. Less-privileged people point out that it's problematic.

3. Privileged people call the less-privileged people "nasty" and assume a particularly smug and self-satisfied air.

Go on, say "politics of envy" next.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For us its our way of saying why we have no face pics open for all to see!! We dont fancy everyone at work knowing were swingers!! Were in jobs where it could be frowned upon! Were more than happy to send pics to people were chatting with x

In what jobs is swinging not frowned up? "

Swingers club staff, escorting, porn, sex shops and of course the circus in case of trapeze artists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I've never understood the need to claim being a professional person or couple. "

Yes I’m sure there’s plenty of folks that could be classed as professional or ex professional and never even consider it to be relevant. Ourselves included.

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By *arah_kieran_ukCouple
over a year ago

Greater London

There’s far too many people on this thread that equate professional with wealth. We have used the term professional in the context we can not share face pics due to the professional code of conduct in our work contracts. It is not a reflection on others, although many on here seem to make it about themselves and become irate. Also we hope it does put profiles off us that send a random message of: “Wat u up to now I’m horny lol”

We all have preferences in this lifestyle if it’s not for you, surely just move on to the next profile that you feel is more appropriate to your taste?

Also hopefully you are ALL having a great bank holiday weekend xx

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"It's interesting, and quite telling, that the anti-professional brigade on this thread are far more judgemental, critical, aggressive, and in some cases nastier, than the professionals. Perhaps that is the real difference between them.

Ah yes, the "So much for the tolerant left" / "NO U" / "Maybe if you were nicer, the police wouldn't murder you" / "Anti-racists are the real racists" argument. Yuck.

1. Privileged people do a problematic thing.

2. Less-privileged people point out that it's problematic.

3. Privileged people call the less-privileged people "nasty" and assume a particularly smug and self-satisfied air.

Go on, say "politics of envy" next.

"

Wow!

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications."

I would add accreditation to the professional body their discipline is in.

E.g. chartered accountants, chartered Engineer etc.

I suspect the majority are not professional.

Perhaps skilled in their discipline, yes. May have a degree or qualification and some letters behind the name, yes.

But certainly not "professional".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd not assume it's in relation to social status but more in terms of behaviour and how a person presents themself and behaves. Not that I think much about it though seems to get a lot of people's back up. It's just a description, one of many that are thrown about in profiles.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications.

I would add accreditation to the professional body their discipline is in.

E.g. chartered accountants, chartered Engineer etc.

I suspect the majority are not professional.

Perhaps skilled in their discipline, yes. May have a degree or qualification and some letters behind the name, yes.

But certainly not "professional".

"

I have 2 M’s and a C but my names not Bodie or Doyle

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

Just to make our opinion clear, nothing wrong with being a professional as in having a profession (career etc) but it's when the term is used in terms of swinging is what makes it sound incredibly pretentious.

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By *isstonguetasticjoWoman
over a year ago

widnes

There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

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By *urioustoswingMan
over a year ago

london

It is funny how some people want to put their cv up. It’s also funny how some people bring politics into their usernames or profiles.

And yes. Some do discriminate based on your education and job. Then again, there are some folks who want “classy” people only. I’ve seen one profile where this person is so hung up on the word classy.

As for those who are discrete... they need to get a life. They make out as if you know their family and friends and will shout from the rooftops that you slept with them. I don’t think the person who knows you and has seen you on here will go ahead and expose themselves to say they’ve seen you on here.

Even if you’re a visitor in their city or they are in yours, they still say they can’t show you a photo as if a visitor will know who you or your loved ones are!!

There’s nothing professional about being on here. More like unprofessional and informal, so no need to describe yourself as such, unless you’re looking to date and a relationship.

Other than that... I’m well educated, classy, worldly

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

I am sure this will paint me as undiscerning in the eyes of some, but I have only two criteria for a partner:

1. They're hot.

2. They're up for it.

People can be "classy" and hot.

People can be "trashy" and hot.

If I wanted to fuck people *exactly* like me, I could stay home and wank in front of the mirror.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is funny how some people want to put their cv up. It’s also funny how some people bring politics into their usernames or profiles.

And yes. Some do discriminate based on your education and job. Then again, there are some folks who want “classy” people only. I’ve seen one profile where this person is so hung up on the word classy.

As for those who are discrete... they need to get a life. They make out as if you know their family and friends and will shout from the rooftops that you slept with them. I don’t think the person who knows you and has seen you on here will go ahead and expose themselves to say they’ve seen you on here.

Even if you’re a visitor in their city or they are in yours, they still say they can’t show you a photo as if a visitor will know who you or your loved ones are!!

There’s nothing professional about being on here. More like unprofessional and informal, so no need to describe yourself as such, unless you’re looking to date and a relationship.

Other than that... I’m well educated, classy, worldly "

Spot...on

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"
0 apot on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if people don't understand something on a profile it means they're not compatible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is an irrelevant statement, one glance at someone's profile pic and you know if you are dealing with a low or high income family. I for one will always avoid swingers with unmatched bed linen, untidy houses, dvd collections on display.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

"
Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds.

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over a year ago


"It is an irrelevant statement, one glance at someone's profile pic and you know if you are dealing with a low or high income family. I for one will always avoid swingers with unmatched bed linen, untidy houses, dvd collections on display. "

Unmatched bed linen! Heathens!!

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I really haven't a problem with it.

It's like if you think of FS as a pub you talk to loads of people in it and some you get friendly with but only a few you actually invit back to your house.

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds."

Or they might be a total genius, leagues ahead of you intellectually, who happens to be dyslexic, or communicating in a non-native language.

Also, your post has a comma splice in it, so think twice about picking other people up on their grammar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds.

Or they might be a total genius, leagues ahead of you intellectually, who happens to be dyslexic, or communicating in a non-native language.

Also, your post has a comma splice in it, so think twice about picking other people up on their grammar. "

Boom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds."

I can imagine you going around clubs asking them how their grammar is before inviting them for a shag

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"I think it's a polite way of saying there is a standard of people they would like to meet, "

You mean they don't want to meet with the lower orders

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds.

I can imagine you going around clubs asking them how their grammar is before inviting them for a shag "

"Ugh! That nymphomaniac porn star, who wants it, ended a sentence with a preposition! My boner – it wilts!"

*Shakespearean faint*

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

Is it not up to the individuals what they put in their profiles? If you don't like it, simply move on.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead? "

If you're paying yourself it's no problem you can get any lower level qualifications you desire.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here.

We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging...

If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification

Could I get a masters in swinging instead?

If you're paying yourself it's no problem you can get any lower level qualifications you desire. "

Well in that case, I have a PHD and have the letters BWC after my name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds.

I can imagine you going around clubs asking them how their grammar is before inviting them for a shag "
I will know when they open their mouth.....a South Yorkshire accent would be very off putting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL

A professional in wat

Deffo not sex

They are all up their own arses

They cannot provide a face piccy

Which is wat i always make sure

At least u can see who ur talking to first.

But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u

But fobt have a face piccy

BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD

Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD

professional or not

Im not into gloaters

If it relates to their jobs

If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy

Then why the fuck they on here

Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds.

Or they might be a total genius, leagues ahead of you intellectually, who happens to be dyslexic, or communicating in a non-native language.

Also, your post has a comma splice in it, so think twice about picking other people up on their grammar. "
At least I made a reasonable attempt at written English.

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Wow some people on here seem to have a huge chip on their shoulder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"one glance at someone's profile pic and you know if you are dealing with a low or high income family "

Bullshit

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By *elpful and caringMan
over a year ago

Scarborough

I am a professional and for me it’s means I’m educated.

Up there own ass! Should be up their own ass!

I do make spelling and grammatical errors but only when my auto correct thingy decides I shouldn’t be able to spell properly.

Yes I do have standards and I am discreet as opposed to many who proclaim and declare that they are discrete.

In my final analysis potato pot at to .

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"I am a professional and for me it’s means I’m educated.

Up there own ass! Should be up their own ass!

I do make spelling and grammatical errors but only when my auto correct thingy decides I shouldn’t be able to spell properly.

Yes I do have standards and I am discreet as opposed to many who proclaim and declare that they are discrete.

In my final analysis potato pot at to .

"

But you are not declaring yourself as professional on your profile so it wouldn't matter as this debate is aimed at people self claiming that they are professional in terms of swinging etc.

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By *elpful and caringMan
over a year ago

Scarborough

Thank you for your reply.

I don’t declare myself to be professional as I am a professional.

I was ranting at people who declare that they are professional and don’t know the difference between their and there or discrete and discreet.

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

Not sure exactly why this topic has turned into a grammar debate.

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By *uffnsmovCouple
over a year ago

Leeds/Wakefield


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

This.

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

I'm not dissing professionals at all I am one, or any of their personal circumstances either. Autocorrect sucks it fecks me over many times.

Just curious to know what value added or rationale is for including it in the swinging profile. People seem to be taking it very personally.

Wasn't sure if putting professional on the profile is a kinda secret handshake like Masons have secret symbols.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is professional kinda like the past version of someone calling themselves a topshagger or some shit?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Perhaps it all depends on what you are looking for in people.

Arguably if you just want an evening of great sex, for some people it does not matter what the other people are like outside the scene, what they are in to. So it suffices to have some light conversation and then off to the bedroom.

Other people are looking for more of a connection, perhaps even with a view to a friendship/ relationship. In this case I think it matters more where you are compatible with your swinging partner on more than one level. Whether you share a similar background, status, interests etc. And perhaps that is where the "professional" comes in - some people believe, rightly or wrongly, that this can act as a filter for potential meets.

To me "professional" in a profile is neither good nor bad - it is just one way of describing oneself.

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By * AND R 777Couple
over a year ago

Teesside

It doesn't matter what you put in your profile there will always be someone who is offended, its just the way of the world these days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

I agree

Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic"

Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening "

Entirely this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm the least proffesional person I know...

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

Many will use the term to dissuade "chavs" from contacting them

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By *isstonguetasticjoWoman
over a year ago

widnes

Your very welcome

Nayb read ur msg u left from my comment then luv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your very welcome

Nayb read ur msg u left from my comment then luv

"

It's called a joke?

No need to be abusive.

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By *isstonguetasticjoWoman
over a year ago

widnes

Your very welcome

Mayb read ur msg u left from my comment then luv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The definition is "A person competent or skilled in a particular activity. But a professional is more than a dictionary definition. ... It places a strong emphasis on the integrity and competence of its members, and therefore requires them to conduct themselves in accordance with a Code of Conduct."

So really looking at lawyers, doctors, nurses etc... However, aot of people who have a certain education standard (degree) also tend to class themselves as "Professional"... "

This is accurate. Code of conduct is a key thing and you can be struck off the professional bodies or associations you’re in. So you basically want to be a little more discrete is all.

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By *isstonguetasticjoWoman
over a year ago

widnes

Sorry

But am i just the only one who is not allowed to leave a comment n opinion on summit but is fine for others to say summit negative

Im sure ur wife wud b gappy if she found out u were on here behind her back luv

Mayb i just have fat fingers wen msging

Im sure there are a few people who do make typo errors

Sorry im not a PROFESSIOBAL in typing

Who are u

Mr perfect

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By *ustustwo.1965Couple
over a year ago

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"Just to make our opinion clear, nothing wrong with being a professional as in having a profession (career etc) but it's when the term is used in terms of swinging is what makes it sound incredibly pretentious. "

Agree totally, incredibly pretentious.

Would not say whether we have letters after our names or not, and whether or not we have the protection of money that being professional brings, but we cannot for the life of us see why people think it makes them more appealing than others on a site like this.

We have met some very educated and beautiful on the inside manual workers, and we have met plenty of arsehole 'professional' people.

It clearly shows the sad state of the world if people think that being professional makes any person think that they are better than another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications."

This and.... When you go to your doctor dentist or lawyer and you recognise they're 'face' from fab.... How much are you going to be respecting/listening to their advice and how much are you going to be thinking about what their tits/arse/dick/handcuffs look like?

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By *iseekingbiCouple
over a year ago

N ireland and West Midlands

If one doesn't bank with Coutts and have at least one butler and valet then, we are afraid, you are not for us. Tally ho!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This was a thread a few days ago !

And my opinion rubbed people up the wrong way !

It sounds very condescending to me !

Women don’t use that term !

Well I’ve yet to come across it myself !

Anyway I reckon it’s important cause they want you to know there a professional dipshit !

They think it sounds impressive but it’s far from that !

Keep it simple ( I’ve a job )

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By *hampagneAfterpartyCouple
over a year ago

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We find it reassuring. It suggests that they have more to lose by being indiscrete, and that what goes on is very much a secret.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't get it either...why they say I'm a professional...a professional what ??? Lol

I think what some are actually trying to say is they earn a substantial salary or are educated to 3rd level either way they just come across as very shallow narrow minded snobby idiots

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Bullshit word. We avoid profiles that has that word on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc

People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers.

May be because of this some people hate that word .

Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion .

Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc

People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers.

May be because of this some people hate that word .

Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion .

Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives .

"

Don’t think anyone is offended !

Well I’m not anyway !

How do you know there not unemployed?

Someone that works in asda has as much to loose as you say someone with a better education and job if there conversation on here becomes known !

Your well wrote out comment sounds impressive but the bottom line is simple

People that throw out that word are obviously not educated!

Smart people should know better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc

People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers.

May be because of this some people hate that word .

Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion .

Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives .

Don’t think anyone is offended !

Well I’m not anyway !

How do you know there not unemployed?

Someone that works in asda has as much to loose as you say someone with a better education and job if there conversation on here becomes known !

Your well wrote out comment sounds impressive but the bottom line is simple

People that throw out that word are obviously not educated!

Smart people should know better "

I can see the resentment in your post but honestly I personally don't care about being professional or unemployed.

As long as they have a good personality,kind at heart then we would meet them .

Answer to your question

Have you ever read that doctors or lawyers are unemployed?

But people working in high street are made redundant .

That's the difference here we are talking about .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc

People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers.

May be because of this some people hate that word .

Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion .

Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives .

Don’t think anyone is offended !

Well I’m not anyway !

How do you know there not unemployed?

Someone that works in asda has as much to loose as you say someone with a better education and job if there conversation on here becomes known !

Your well wrote out comment sounds impressive but the bottom line is simple

People that throw out that word are obviously not educated!

Smart people should know better

I can see the resentment in your post but honestly I personally don't care about being professional or unemployed.

As long as they have a good personality,kind at heart then we would meet them .

Answer to your question

Have you ever read that doctors or lawyers are unemployed?

But people working in high street are made redundant .

That's the difference here we are talking about .

"

You started off well !

And no I’ve no resentment towards you I’m not here especially on threads to push my opinion on anyone !

I can see it wouldn’t work on you anyway I’m gonna take the first part of your comment cause I really respect that and we leave it there !

I get your perspective but I don’t fully agree but we don’t have to !

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc

People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers.

May be because of this some people hate that word .

Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion .

Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives .

"

That last sentence sounds a bit crappy. What counts as success?

If someone has a menial job that pays the bills, has enough free time to spend quality time with those they want to, is surrounded by family and friends and has inner peace are they less successful than someone with a professional status with ot without same inner peace etc?

Success to me has fuck all to do with status and everything to do with how content you are.

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By *rSshMan
over a year ago

Poundbury

Why is the word professional so intimidating to others? May be it says something about you as opposed to them?

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By *rSshMan
over a year ago

Poundbury


"Puts me off.

I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe.

Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is.

I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest."

Why does everyone think being a ‘professional’ means you are solvent, only dine in the best places (subjective) and live the dream.

This sounds like a class issue - Britain hasn’t changed much then.

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By *rSshMan
over a year ago

Poundbury


"It's interesting, and quite telling, that the anti-professional brigade on this thread are far more judgemental, critical, aggressive, and in some cases nastier, than the professionals. Perhaps that is the real difference between them."

This! How many ‘unprofessionals’ have called ‘professionals’ arseholes? Or up their own asses?

May be this explains why some chose to put the term on their profile - as an added filter system to filter out those who abuse and are offensive to others. Why would anyone want to spend with people who have that mindset.

- just a thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications.

Just the same as always .. fab is a personal thing .. and swingers respect that .......or should ..

This and.... When you go to your doctor dentist or lawyer and you recognise they're 'face' from fab.... How much are you going to be respecting/listening to their advice and how much are you going to be thinking about what their tits/arse/dick/handcuffs look like?"

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!"

Mmmmmmm......

Different types of people one Builder who hoovers the floor turn up on time get rid of all waste make sure what can be recycled is recycled (professional) the other Builder leaves bricks in your garden and dumped his s*** in the local park

We see professionals as responsible people not £100k banker lawyer they can be equally unprofessional as the cowboy Builder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!

Mmmmmmm......

Different types of people one Builder who hoovers the floor turn up on time get rid of all waste make sure what can be recycled is recycled (professional) the other Builder leaves bricks in your garden and dumped his s*** in the local park

We see professionals as responsible people not £100k banker lawyer they can be equally unprofessional as the cowboy Builder. "

of the replies posted , this sums things up for me too

The term is not used as a class distinction, it's more about the persona of person - nothing wrong in being professional in all you do

J xx

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

This thread has been very useful. Thanks OP. It has revealed a lot of opinionated, judgemental, aggressive, narrow minded people that we, and probably others, will do everything we can to avoid. Anyone who gets so upset, antagonistic and angry over a single word in a profile clearly isn't for us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I for one, am quite disappointed in this thread.

Here I am, donning a curly wig, 70's flares, an unbuttoned shirt and a chest wig, with a St Christopher on show.

The 3ltr S Capri is outside and ready to infiltrate any terrorist lairs I can find.

But, alas, we're talking about people getting paid to do a job.

When will people learn that The Professionals are a highly trained organisation, secret civil service, that is broadcast on ITV2 twice daily (and repeated the next day).

Come on people, get your facts straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread has been very useful. Thanks OP. It has revealed a lot of opinionated, judgemental, aggressive, narrow minded people that we, and probably others, will do everything we can to avoid. Anyone who gets so upset, antagonistic and angry over a single word in a profile clearly isn't for us."

Clearly not ! You can’t agree on everything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I for one, am quite disappointed in this thread.

Here I am, donning a curly wig, 70's flares, an unbuttoned shirt and a chest wig, with a St Christopher on show.

The 3ltr S Capri is outside and ready to infiltrate any terrorist lairs I can find.

But, alas, we're talking about people getting paid to do a job.

When will people learn that The Professionals are a highly trained organisation, secret civil service, that is broadcast on ITV2 twice daily (and repeated the next day).

Come on people, get your facts straight "

There basically Liam Neason in the film taken ! They have a certain set of skills ! Obviously we don’t unfortunately

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Puts me off.

I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe.

Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is.

I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest.

Why does everyone think being a ‘professional’ means you are solvent, only dine in the best places (subjective) and live the dream.

This sounds like a class issue - Britain hasn’t changed much then. "

Because the only difference I can see between myself and a professional is the pay grade. I work my arse off to a high standard. I'm fucking awesome at my job. I put my heart and soul, blood sweat and tears into it. I'm no less committed and have been in my current workplace over a decade.

I'm human.

I'm flawed.

I have insecurities about myself and my life. When I see what I'm not (whatever said positive label may be) I do feel substandard in a lot of ways. That's no disrespect to anyone at all, it simply stems from years of berating from caregivers and "loved ones" and love and care being conditional.

Not everything comes from a nasty place or is a slight on others, I many cases, like mine, it's slights on ourselves from where we've been made to think/feel unworthy over the years.

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

Love and compassion can heal the world.

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