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"A lot of guys on here say they are straight on their profile as they don't want to risk loosing out on meets with straight women and couples. A lot won't admit to being curious or fully bi for some reason, perhaps self denial. Others are perhaps just so eager for sex that they think any port in a storm will do. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, this is just what I have experienced and from talking with other TV/TSs they have experienced much the same. " I think that is pretty much spot on | |||
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"A lot of guys on here say they are straight on their profile as they don't want to risk loosing out on meets with straight women and couples. A lot won't admit to being curious or fully bi for some reason, perhaps self denial. Others are perhaps just so eager for sex that they think any port in a storm will do. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, this is just what I have experienced and from talking with other TV/TSs they have experienced much the same. " This | |||
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"We am all for live and let live, but trying to stay politically correct I think that you need to understand that any genuinely "Straight" Guy is not going to be meeting a Transexual. He will be meeting someone who used to be a bloke and that is not a natural thing to do in a sexual way for a straight man! " You say that you are trying to be politically correct but I think you may have missed the mark on that one I’m afraid. Is it not a tad judgmental for you to determine someone else’s sexuality and say they are not “genuinely straight” because they are able to see someone for who they are now rather than who they may have been in the past? You say live and let live and that works both ways, I get you may not see as straight for a man to meet a transwoman and of course that’s your right to think so but I’d ask you to try not to judge straight men who do think it’s a natural thing to accept a person as they. | |||
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"my "take" on it is that some people just don't like labels as they can be so limiting. Each to their own in my opinion. If it works, go with the flow??? x" I think this is fairly accurate. I belive the days of seeing sexuality as being something you are tied to are long gone. For me physical, sexual and emotional attraction are much more person specific. As someone who is absolutely comfortable with what and who I am attracted to it poses no problems. Previously caller hit the nail on the head though. Many would be happy sticking it anywhere and adopt the trawling method. | |||
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"A lot of guys on here say they are straight on their profile as they don't want to risk loosing out on meets with straight women and couples. A lot won't admit to being curious or fully bi for some reason, perhaps self denial. Others are perhaps just so eager for sex that they think any port in a storm will do. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, this is just what I have experienced and from talking with other TV/TSs they have experienced much the same. " Yes, we think the poster hit the nail on the head. However, some may not understand the term "transsexual" or be able to differentiate between pre-op and post-op transsexual person. Especially that this category is so broad on Fab- you've got people who like to wear other gender's clothes for sexual thrills on one hand, all the way to post-op transsexuals who live permanently as a person of a different gender than they were born as, and have all the physical attributes of the gender they are now living as. | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. " Wow a lot of replies - thanks all! Yep this is every transwomans fear....utterly horrible and terrifying once the deed has been done shall we say. Some guys on here do treat us like women, but sadly some are just arses....but then again that happens to everyone I suppose! | |||
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"my "take" on it is that some people just don't like labels as they can be so limiting. Each to their own in my opinion. If it works, go with the flow??? x" Most definitely this And remember Op, they already know you are transgender so there should be no surprises involved? And my take on the attraction to transgender individuals, for what it's worth and lifted straight from Wiki because it saves time typing it out in full:- "Sexual attraction to transgender people has been the subject of scientific study and social commentary. Psychologists have researched sexual attraction toward transwomen (edit)...Cisgender men attracted to transgender women primarily identify as heterosexual and sometimes as bisexual, but rarely as homosexual. Sexual arousal research has confirmed that their response patterns are unlike those of gay men and resemble those of heterosexual men, except that they are highly aroused by transgender women in addition to cisgender women. They show little arousal to men". Too many labels really for my liking but if you are trying to determine what makes men who label themselves as "straight" attracted to you, the above may provide food for thought? | |||
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"my "take" on it is that some people just don't like labels as they can be so limiting. Each to their own in my opinion. If it works, go with the flow??? x Most definitely this And remember Op, they already know you are transgender so there should be no surprises involved? And my take on the attraction to transgender individuals, for what it's worth and lifted straight from Wiki because it saves time typing it out in full:- "Sexual attraction to transgender people has been the subject of scientific study and social commentary. Psychologists have researched sexual attraction toward transwomen (edit)...Cisgender men attracted to transgender women primarily identify as heterosexual and sometimes as bisexual, but rarely as homosexual. Sexual arousal research has confirmed that their response patterns are unlike those of gay men and resemble those of heterosexual men, except that they are highly aroused by transgender women in addition to cisgender women. They show little arousal to men". Too many labels really for my liking but if you are trying to determine what makes men who label themselves as "straight" attracted to you, the above may provide food for thought? " This is very interesting. Ultimately , as you say, all these labels being banded around isn't always helpful. Then again if it helps people identify and reason with feelings who am I to question. | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. " This is unfortunately a big cause of many trans deaths in USA .. when i lived in london i met some guys that were like this and flipped out after cumming,, one guy got really bent out of shape and physical which resulted in me breaking his jaw .. he had a bad day that day all round it seemed lol I would avoid any person female or male that blags on about it being first time, yadda yadda and not sure, super straight usually etc they are just bellends and not worth the ballache to worry about with ... if you start having to knock out some tool after its kinda mood dampening . | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. This is unfortunately a big cause of many trans deaths in USA .. when i lived in london i met some guys that were like this and flipped out after cumming,, one guy got really bent out of shape and physical which resulted in me breaking his jaw .. he had a bad day that day all round it seemed lol I would avoid any person female or male that blags on about it being first time, yadda yadda and not sure, super straight usually etc they are just bellends and not worth the ballache to worry about with ... if you start having to knock out some tool after its kinda mood dampening ." Would definitely agree with this about people taking their first steps. Phrases like exploring my sexuality, want to experiment, always wanted be with, stuff like this is always a big warning sign for me | |||
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"They like glamour and beauty " They think that they walk around all day in heels and stockings. Unlike their wife's. It's a true fantasy. | |||
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"They like glamour and beauty They think that they walk around all day in heels and stockings. Unlike their wife's. It's a true fantasy." This lol xx | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. This is unfortunately a big cause of many trans deaths in USA .. when i lived in london i met some guys that were like this and flipped out after cumming,, one guy got really bent out of shape and physical which resulted in me breaking his jaw .. he had a bad day that day all round it seemed lol I would avoid any person female or male that blags on about it being first time, yadda yadda and not sure, super straight usually etc they are just bellends and not worth the ballache to worry about with ... if you start having to knock out some tool after its kinda mood dampening ." This is terrible you had to go through this. It's not all guys that are like this. Since I joined fab I've felt more comfortable and able to be open with myself and my thoughts. I've always said I'm straight but honestly I've just looked at your profile and I can't call myself straight. I'm clearly attracted to you. I love this safe space where we can all be ourselves. I'm actually going to change my profile. I'd love to hear from you privately and have a conversation if you would xxx | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. This is unfortunately a big cause of many trans deaths in USA .. when i lived in london i met some guys that were like this and flipped out after cumming,, one guy got really bent out of shape and physical which resulted in me breaking his jaw .. he had a bad day that day all round it seemed lol I would avoid any person female or male that blags on about it being first time, yadda yadda and not sure, super straight usually etc they are just bellends and not worth the ballache to worry about with ... if you start having to knock out some tool after its kinda mood dampening . This is terrible you had to go through this. It's not all guys that are like this. Since I joined fab I've felt more comfortable and able to be open with myself and my thoughts. I've always said I'm straight but honestly I've just looked at your profile and I can't call myself straight. I'm clearly attracted to you. I love this safe space where we can all be ourselves. I'm actually going to change my profile. I'd love to hear from you privately and have a conversation if you would xxx" Can you not call yourself straight? If you’re not attracted to men, then you probably are... | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. This is unfortunately a big cause of many trans deaths in USA .. when i lived in london i met some guys that were like this and flipped out after cumming,, one guy got really bent out of shape and physical which resulted in me breaking his jaw .. he had a bad day that day all round it seemed lol I would avoid any person female or male that blags on about it being first time, yadda yadda and not sure, super straight usually etc they are just bellends and not worth the ballache to worry about with ... if you start having to knock out some tool after its kinda mood dampening . This is terrible you had to go through this. It's not all guys that are like this. Since I joined fab I've felt more comfortable and able to be open with myself and my thoughts. I've always said I'm straight but honestly I've just looked at your profile and I can't call myself straight. I'm clearly attracted to you. I love this safe space where we can all be ourselves. I'm actually going to change my profile. I'd love to hear from you privately and have a conversation if you would xxx Can you not call yourself straight? If you’re not attracted to men, then you probably are..." I thought you just said you wouldn’t be arguing or debating anyone’s sexual orientation or identification lol... | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. This is unfortunately a big cause of many trans deaths in USA .. when i lived in london i met some guys that were like this and flipped out after cumming,, one guy got really bent out of shape and physical which resulted in me breaking his jaw .. he had a bad day that day all round it seemed lol I would avoid any person female or male that blags on about it being first time, yadda yadda and not sure, super straight usually etc they are just bellends and not worth the ballache to worry about with ... if you start having to knock out some tool after its kinda mood dampening . This is terrible you had to go through this. It's not all guys that are like this. Since I joined fab I've felt more comfortable and able to be open with myself and my thoughts. I've always said I'm straight but honestly I've just looked at your profile and I can't call myself straight. I'm clearly attracted to you. I love this safe space where we can all be ourselves. I'm actually going to change my profile. I'd love to hear from you privately and have a conversation if you would xxx Can you not call yourself straight? If you’re not attracted to men, then you probably are... I thought you just said you wouldn’t be arguing or debating anyone’s sexual orientation or identification lol..." More a suggestion, but I get your point! | |||
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"Hi all, so this post might be more for the other transwomen on here, but would welcome other peoples thoughts. So now that meets are allowed, I’ve been getting a lot of messages from guys who say they’re exclusively straight, not even bi curious....and one had a headline “totally straight, don’t even try!”. A lot also fab my photos so they’re obviously saving them for later. Now, I’m not too sure how to take this, is it either because I pass well enough that they would be happy to meet for a social first and then potentially some fun, and treat me like any other woman on here, or are they just very internalised with their Fab bi-ness and looking to experiment? I have asked a few who have messaged me the same question above but never got a coherent response! Would be great to hear some other girls thoughts as it’s holding me back off planning meets as I’m reluctant to meet someone who isn’t comfortable with themselves and may have the classic freak out when they meet a transwoman....we all know a horror story about those sort of experiences!! Thanks all x I get loads messaging saying I’m straight but....... and also asking if I’m versatile which I translate as “ they want to be shagged up the arse” I say if your straight why are you messaging a bloke in a dress ? This questions their sexuality and don’t always end well with a load of abuse and I often end up being blocked .... I ask myself the question do I really want to be meeting these people?. The trans spectrum is very broad ranging from the hairy panty wearers right through to post op trans women I consider myself somewhere in the middle, I’m sure the admirers range is very broad too with those who genuinely admire us and respect us , those who see us as any hole is a goal and those who want a dabble “with the other side “ " | |||
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"We am all for live and let live, but trying to stay politically correct I think that you need to understand that any genuinely "Straight" Guy is not going to be meeting a Transexual. He will be meeting someone who used to be a bloke and that is not a natural thing to do in a sexual way for a straight man! You say that you are trying to be politically correct but I think you may have missed the mark on that one I’m afraid. Is it not a tad judgmental for you to determine someone else’s sexuality and say they are not “genuinely straight” because they are able to see someone for who they are now rather than who they may have been in the past? You say live and let live and that works both ways, I get you may not see as straight for a man to meet a transwoman and of course that’s your right to think so but I’d ask you to try not to judge straight men who do think it’s a natural thing to accept a person as they." Thank you, this is so true. Sick and tired of these and from my experience, It indirectly says that you (as in the guy that mentioned that a straight guy will never sleep with a trans woman) invalidate me as a woman. I am still pre op, but once I’ve gone post op, I’ve completed my journey. But still you would get some who will say. But in reality, you will never be a woman. Hence those stupid people on Tik Tok saying they are super straight. You can have your preference, but if you don’t know me and saw me out and u had no idea I was trans, the guys that get attracted are straigut men. Because they like women and trans women are women. Period Then if a guy then finds out and gets turned off by the idea of what I was born, then that’s on them and their problem and another story altogether. I’m over this topic. Please people, stop invalidating women like us by saying shit like that and also making men feel guilty, cos if there’s stigma it’s because of all of the people who point and say “u can’t be straight if u do this” and the whole cycle of transphobia or “I only do this in private” because I can’t have my mates know begins ... | |||
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"Hi all, so this post might be more for the other transwomen on here, but would welcome other peoples thoughts. So now that meets are allowed, I’ve been getting a lot of messages from guys who say they’re exclusively straight, not even bi curious....and one had a headline “totally straight, don’t even try!”. A lot also fab my photos so they’re obviously saving them for later. Now, I’m not too sure how to take this, is it either because I pass well enough that they would be happy to meet for a social first and then potentially some fun, and treat me like any other woman on here, or are they just very internalised with their Fab bi-ness and looking to experiment? I have asked a few who have messaged me the same question above but never got a coherent response! Would be great to hear some other girls thoughts as it’s holding me back off planning meets as I’m reluctant to meet someone who isn’t comfortable with themselves and may have the classic freak out when they meet a transwoman....we all know a horror story about those sort of experiences!! Thanks all x " I hate labels yet so many on here seem to want to be known by them. I love both women and TV/TS’s, nice to stand at the bar with your hand of a ladies bum and guys jaws dropping because they are jealous ! Don’t be put off meeting, just pick your meets wisely and enjoy yourself ! | |||
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"We am all for live and let live, but trying to stay politically correct I think that you need to understand that any genuinely "Straight" Guy is not going to be meeting a Transexual. He will be meeting someone who used to be a bloke and that is not a natural thing to do in a sexual way for a straight man! You say that you are trying to be politically correct but I think you may have missed the mark on that one I’m afraid. Is it not a tad judgmental for you to determine someone else’s sexuality and say they are not “genuinely straight” because they are able to see someone for who they are now rather than who they may have been in the past? You say live and let live and that works both ways, I get you may not see as straight for a man to meet a transwoman and of course that’s your right to think so but I’d ask you to try not to judge straight men who do think it’s a natural thing to accept a person as they. Thank you, this is so true. Sick and tired of these and from my experience, It indirectly says that you (as in the guy that mentioned that a straight guy will never sleep with a trans woman) invalidate me as a woman. I am still pre op, but once I’ve gone post op, I’ve completed my journey. But still you would get some who will say. But in reality, you will never be a woman. Hence those stupid people on Tik Tok saying they are super straight. You can have your preference, but if you don’t know me and saw me out and u had no idea I was trans, the guys that get attracted are straigut men. Because they like women and trans women are women. Period Then if a guy then finds out and gets turned off by the idea of what I was born, then that’s on them and their problem and another story altogether. I’m over this topic. Please people, stop invalidating women like us by saying shit like that and also making men feel guilty, cos if there’s stigma it’s because of all of the people who point and say “u can’t be straight if u do this” and the whole cycle of transphobia or “I only do this in private” because I can’t have my mates know begins ... " The real question is what’s the obsession with being seen as straight? Is not being straight a bad thing? | |||
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"We am all for live and let live, but trying to stay politically correct I think that you need to understand that any genuinely "Straight" Guy is not going to be meeting a Transexual. He will be meeting someone who used to be a bloke and that is not a natural thing to do in a sexual way for a straight man! You say that you are trying to be politically correct but I think you may have missed the mark on that one I’m afraid. Is it not a tad judgmental for you to determine someone else’s sexuality and say they are not “genuinely straight” because they are able to see someone for who they are now rather than who they may have been in the past? You say live and let live and that works both ways, I get you may not see as straight for a man to meet a transwoman and of course that’s your right to think so but I’d ask you to try not to judge straight men who do think it’s a natural thing to accept a person as they. Thank you, this is so true. Sick and tired of these and from my experience, It indirectly says that you (as in the guy that mentioned that a straight guy will never sleep with a trans woman) invalidate me as a woman. I am still pre op, but once I’ve gone post op, I’ve completed my journey. But still you would get some who will say. But in reality, you will never be a woman. Hence those stupid people on Tik Tok saying they are super straight. You can have your preference, but if you don’t know me and saw me out and u had no idea I was trans, the guys that get attracted are straigut men. Because they like women and trans women are women. Period Then if a guy then finds out and gets turned off by the idea of what I was born, then that’s on them and their problem and another story altogether. I’m over this topic. Please people, stop invalidating women like us by saying shit like that and also making men feel guilty, cos if there’s stigma it’s because of all of the people who point and say “u can’t be straight if u do this” and the whole cycle of transphobia or “I only do this in private” because I can’t have my mates know begins ... The real question is what’s the obsession with being seen as straight? Is not being straight a bad thing? " You speak sense x | |||
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"We am all for live and let live, but trying to stay politically correct I think that you need to understand that any genuinely "Straight" Guy is not going to be meeting a Transexual. He will be meeting someone who used to be a bloke and that is not a natural thing to do in a sexual way for a straight man! You say that you are trying to be politically correct but I think you may have missed the mark on that one I’m afraid. Is it not a tad judgmental for you to determine someone else’s sexuality and say they are not “genuinely straight” because they are able to see someone for who they are now rather than who they may have been in the past? You say live and let live and that works both ways, I get you may not see as straight for a man to meet a transwoman and of course that’s your right to think so but I’d ask you to try not to judge straight men who do think it’s a natural thing to accept a person as they. Thank you, this is so true. Sick and tired of these and from my experience, It indirectly says that you (as in the guy that mentioned that a straight guy will never sleep with a trans woman) invalidate me as a woman. I am still pre op, but once I’ve gone post op, I’ve completed my journey. But still you would get some who will say. But in reality, you will never be a woman. Hence those stupid people on Tik Tok saying they are super straight. You can have your preference, but if you don’t know me and saw me out and u had no idea I was trans, the guys that get attracted are straigut men. Because they like women and trans women are women. Period Then if a guy then finds out and gets turned off by the idea of what I was born, then that’s on them and their problem and another story altogether. I’m over this topic. Please people, stop invalidating women like us by saying shit like that and also making men feel guilty, cos if there’s stigma it’s because of all of the people who point and say “u can’t be straight if u do this” and the whole cycle of transphobia or “I only do this in private” because I can’t have my mates know begins ... The real question is what’s the obsession with being seen as straight? Is not being straight a bad thing? You speak sense x" I try! | |||
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"The real issue here is the traditional categories Fab squeezes us into. Straight, bi-curious, bi or gay. Things are being accepted as being a bit more flexible these days, even if we had an "unsure" or "other" category it would be an improvement. I had to change from bi-curious to straight as too many guys were getting the wrong idea. If I find the other person attractive I'm not really fussed what genitalia they've got, hence why gynosexual seems to fit better for me. But try and slot that neatly into 4 options on here. Nope! But yes, the amount of straight guys who Fab and contact what is essentially a guy in a wig (ie me) is scary!" Perhaps you hit on the right word earlier on in your considered post, flexible would be a good addition to the list of possible preferences | |||
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"Hi all, so this post might be more for the other transwomen on here, but would welcome other peoples thoughts. So now that meets are allowed, I’ve been getting a lot of messages from guys who say they’re exclusively straight, not even bi curious....and one had a headline “totally straight, don’t even try!”. A lot also fab my photos so they’re obviously saving them for later. Now, I’m not too sure how to take this, is it either because I pass well enough that they would be happy to meet for a social first and then potentially some fun, and treat me like any other woman on here, or are they just very internalised with their Fab bi-ness and looking to experiment? I have asked a few who have messaged me the same question above but never got a coherent response! Would be great to hear some other girls thoughts as it’s holding me back off planning meets as I’m reluctant to meet someone who isn’t comfortable with themselves and may have the classic freak out when they meet a transwoman....we all know a horror story about those sort of experiences!! Thanks all x " Not that iv met on here yet but I tend to be quite frank about how I look ect on here, no filters ect, showing my bad pics, that sort of thing. Generally speaking I'd meet someone that just says straight in there profile but not if they made a point about it. | |||
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"Forgive my ignorance but if a "straight guy" is looking to hook up with a TV or TS is he assuming this is post gender realignment. Other wise some one is taking it up the bum?" I think 'straight guys' are just attracted to femininity, even if someone ends up taking it up the bum lol | |||
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"Forgive my ignorance but if a "straight guy" is looking to hook up with a TV or TS is he assuming this is post gender realignment. Other wise some one is taking it up the bum?" Not everyone is into that | |||
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"Forgive my ignorance but if a "straight guy" is looking to hook up with a TV or TS is he assuming this is post gender realignment. Other wise some one is taking it up the bum? Not everyone is into that" | |||
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"Forgive my ignorance but if a "straight guy" is looking to hook up with a TV or TS is he assuming this is post gender realignment. Other wise some one is taking it up the bum? Not everyone is into that " Xxx | |||
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"When you look like a beautiful woman don't be surprised that men are attracted to you. " Exactly, it pretty much boils down do this | |||
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"I would be very careful with those particular 'straight' guys - after the event they might be racked with guilt and hate, and look to 'blame' someone else for their gayness. This is unfortunately a big cause of many trans deaths in USA .. when i lived in london i met some guys that were like this and flipped out after cumming,, one guy got really bent out of shape and physical which resulted in me breaking his jaw .. he had a bad day that day all round it seemed lol I would avoid any person female or male that blags on about it being first time, yadda yadda and not sure, super straight usually etc they are just bellends and not worth the ballache to worry about with ... if you start having to knock out some tool after its kinda mood dampening ." Not to be messed with?? | |||
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"Definitely agree that Fab should drop the ‘straight/etc.’ distinction and just help people communicate about their preferences. After all, most of us are here to meet sexy people, or at least meet them online? I’m here to interact with hot trans people. I don’t need a place to declare my identity. Loved this quote, too. It’s bang on, for me: “ Cisgender men attracted to transgender women primarily identify as heterosexual and sometimes as bisexual, but rarely as homosexual. Sexual arousal research has confirmed that their response patterns are unlike those of gay men and resemble those of heterosexual men, except that they are highly aroused by transgender women in addition to cisgender women. They show little arousal to men"." Well but of course, trans women to a very good degree tend to pass and live their lives as women (regardless whether they had or not bottom surgery) I’ve got a few gay friends and not one would bang me or feel aroused about me… Because guess what, I look/talk/act like a woman (and identity as one obvs) | |||
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