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"Clicky? Fab? Never! " No never, not like the blood n crips at least | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) " It is all about perception I get that. | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) It is all about perception I get that." It's not though, they exist simple, they are real but the only people that notice them are those that feel excluded. So in fact the problem is theirs to own! | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) It is all about perception I get that. It's not though, they exist simple, they are real but the only people that notice them are those that feel excluded. So in fact the problem is theirs to own! " A bit harsh..I thought thisis a friendly inclusive place? | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) It is all about perception I get that. It's not though, they exist simple, they are real but the only people that notice them are those that feel excluded. So in fact the problem is theirs to own! A bit harsh..I thought thisis a friendly inclusive place?" It is! But cliques are natural things ... you could be in one and not notice! Cliques are just friendships? | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) It is all about perception I get that. It's not though, they exist simple, they are real but the only people that notice them are those that feel excluded. So in fact the problem is theirs to own! A bit harsh..I thought thisis a friendly inclusive place? It is! But cliques are natural things ... you could be in one and not notice! Cliques are just friendships? " | |||
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"I thought this is a friendly inclusive place?" What on Earth made you think that? | |||
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"I thought this is a friendly inclusive place? What on Earth made you think that? " Fab is very much what you make it and the forums are a very tiny part of it ... just stick to the inclusive people and ignore the rest! | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it" I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. " But you can't actually change other people nor make them have sex with you though? So we make our little bit of fab fit ourselves! Hence the "it's what you make it"? | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. " I think your expectations are are way to high as what your thinking fab us all about. Its the same as the outside world, you wouldn't make every person fancy you, why woykd be any diffrent on here.. Ppl come here with such deluded thinking, as I'm going to be knee deep in pussy ir cock in a message or two, when that doesn't happen, then the bitterness n resentment comes out to play | |||
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"I was chatting to a gentleman from Ireland and he was making an assumption that fabbers , generally, are clicky. He meant that the same people answer threads of people they know. I am not sure personally. I think fabbers tend to be neutral and answer the thread with banter, humour and honesty. What say you!" Unless the post is from someone I’ve blocked, I’ll reply to anyone if I can find a funny or helpful message to respond to what’s being said. Often I do reply to people like forum royalty cause they’re always around and it might look like it’s clicky; but it’s not. | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. But you can't actually change other people nor make them have sex with you though? So we make our little bit of fab fit ourselves! Hence the "it's what you make it"? " Exactly. We "can't actually change other people nor make them have sex with you". We don't have "our little bit of Fab", because it exists in consensus reality, is influenced by a massive array of factors entirely beyond our control, and is owned and operated by people who aren't us. So no, it's not, never has been, and never will be, "what [we] make it". | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. I think your expectations are are way to high as what your thinking fab us all about. Its the same as the outside world, you wouldn't make every person fancy you, why woykd be any diffrent on here.. Ppl come here with such deluded thinking, as I'm going to be knee deep in pussy ir cock in a message or two, when that doesn't happen, then the bitterness n resentment comes out to play " Very true! Also the fact that we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. But you can't actually change other people nor make them have sex with you though? So we make our little bit of fab fit ourselves! Hence the "it's what you make it"? Exactly. We "can't actually change other people nor make them have sex with you". We don't have "our little bit of Fab", because it exists in consensus reality, is influenced by a massive array of factors entirely beyond our control, and is owned and operated by people who aren't us. So no, it's not, never has been, and never will be, "what [we] make it". " It is only is, always has been "what we make it" we have no influence over other people and their bit of fab! It's a forum for meeting people the we want to meet and that want to meet us! Nothing more or less ... | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. I think your expectations are are way to high as what your thinking fab us all about. Its the same as the outside world, you wouldn't make every person fancy you, why woykd be any diffrent on here.. Ppl come here with such deluded thinking, as I'm going to be knee deep in pussy ir cock in a message or two, when that doesn't happen, then the bitterness n resentment comes out to play Very true! Also the fact that we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! " Totally agree, we are powerless over others, have to own our part in things, so if I feel excluded, I have to bring it back to the first me, and see how what I can do to feel included | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. I think your expectations are are way to high as what your thinking fab us all about. Its the same as the outside world, you wouldn't make every person fancy you, why woykd be any diffrent on here.. Ppl come here with such deluded thinking, as I'm going to be knee deep in pussy ir cock in a message or two, when that doesn't happen, then the bitterness n resentment comes out to play Very true! Also the fact that we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Totally agree, we are powerless over others, have to own our part in things, so if I feel excluded, I have to bring it back to the first me, and see how what I can do to feel included" First person** | |||
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"My knees make a terrible clicky noise V x " I have oil for you V | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! " Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. | |||
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"My knees make a terrible clicky noise V x I have oil for you V " A good few squirts required. V x | |||
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"My knees make a terrible clicky noise V x I have oil for you V A good few squirts required. V x " I'll trade my squirts of oil, for some food I'm hank here lol | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful." You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? | |||
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"My knees make a terrible clicky noise V x I have oil for you V A good few squirts required. V x I'll trade my squirts of oil, for some food I'm hank here lol " It’s all you think about | |||
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"My knees make a terrible clicky noise V x I have oil for you V A good few squirts required. V x I'll trade my squirts of oil, for some food I'm hank here lol It’s all you think about " Food n sex V, not always in that order, lol | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? " Would you agree that men and women have very different experiences on this site? | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? Would you agree that men and women have very different experiences on this site? " Of cause they do, but aint that down to the fact fab is so cock heavy, if it was more balanced, im sure tge experiences of both genders, would be pretty much aligned | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? Would you agree that men and women have very different experiences on this site? " I think this is where experiences are different. For men and couples seeking single females, fab is certainly not what you make of it in terms of meets. If you only come here for the forums then it will be what you make of it. As a female, it will probably be what you make of it. | |||
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"I'm in a clique with myself, I have lots of fun in my clique and only rarely upset me " Can I join your clique | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? Would you agree that men and women have very different experiences on this site? " Oh yes totally! But there are very successful men on here of all descriptions and that's always intrigued me! I think a truly positive vibe to fab helps completely. The difference is a lot to do with the fact that men seriously outnumber the ladies, down here it's literally 100/1, which isn't very realistic for what most men think being on fab is going to offer them! | |||
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"I'm in a clique with myself, I have lots of fun in my clique and only rarely upset me Can I join your clique " Membership is currently at full capacity, soz | |||
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"I'm in a clique with myself, I have lots of fun in my clique and only rarely upset me Can I join your clique Membership is currently at full capacity, soz" I'll start my own then, it'll be better than yours | |||
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"I'm in a clique with myself, I have lots of fun in my clique and only rarely upset me Can I join your clique Membership is currently at full capacity, soz I'll start my own then, it'll be better than yours " Lol you're should of finished that by blowing a raspberry lol | |||
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"I'm in a clique with myself, I have lots of fun in my clique and only rarely upset me Can I join your clique Membership is currently at full capacity, soz I'll start my own then, it'll be better than yours Lol you're should of finished that by blowing a raspberry lol " I was stamping my feet really, just don't have a apporiate emoji fit it | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? Would you agree that men and women have very different experiences on this site? Oh yes totally! But there are very successful men on here of all descriptions and that's always intrigued me! I think a truly positive vibe to fab helps completely. The difference is a lot to do with the fact that men seriously outnumber the ladies, down here it's literally 100/1, which isn't very realistic for what most men think being on fab is going to offer them! " Good point! | |||
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"I was chatting to a gentleman from Ireland and he was making an assumption that fabbers , generally, are clicky. He meant that the same people answer threads of people they know. I am not sure personally. I think fabbers tend to be neutral and answer the thread with banter, humour and honesty. What say you!" We tend to just comment on the threads we have an interest in and don’t really look at the OP before we do, couldn’t comment on anyone else obviously. Mr | |||
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"Fab is exactly what you choose to make it. Some people just gravitate to agreeable people just like themselves, for safety and comfort, I think people interpret that as clicky. I generally do the opposite, not much interest in group think but I’ve old friends here as well as new friends who I’ve met and some I haven’t yet and some I likely never will. I’ve created several WhatsApp groups and am invited to some others I didn't make. Stop whining about clicks and engage with the people who light you up a little " I am not whining.. stop patronising!! | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) " Excellent response! | |||
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"Fab is very much what you make it I don't agree with this at all. It completely elides the fact that other people have any influence on reality, and falsely dumps all the responsibility on the individual. I would *like* to make Fab a mechanism by which I have so much sex, for so long, with so many people, that various parts of my body stop working and I have to desist due to physical exhaustion. Fab is *not* that, so no, it's not what I make it. I think your expectations are are way to high as what your thinking fab us all about. Its the same as the outside world, you wouldn't make every person fancy you, why woykd be any diffrent on here.. Ppl come here with such deluded thinking, as I'm going to be knee deep in pussy ir cock in a message or two, when that doesn't happen, then the bitterness n resentment comes out to play " Where as other people who you may think may struggle a little to make connections, join up with a good attitude, get involved and get known for all the right reasons. They accept they won't be everyone's cup of tea and just concentrate on people who respond well to them, and they do really well. | |||
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"I think it's more that people get to know each other the more they post on the forum's and tend to interact with people they get to know more than a clique. Everyone is new at some point and you have to make an effort to chat in any forum if you post once in a blue moon or just post to give out then you are a lot less likely to get replies .I often don't get replies especially in the lounge or here it doesn't bother me I just post if something interests me .If people reply grand if they don't then it's not a big deal either." | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? " I understand *you* think they're the same thing. I just totally disagree. I'm not taking anything "out of context". I was making the effort to only quote the specific points I'm responding to, a) for clarity, and b) to spare everyone scrolling past whole walls of text to get to the actual response. I won't bother in future. Fab really needs a better quoting function. I'm sorry, but I just can't get past the patently absurd assertion that "[XYZ] is what you make it". It's just ludicrous. But then this forum on the whole seems to believe some pretty ridiculous stuff (MBTI is a legitimate tool; body hair is blasphemy and must be destroyed; yelling "I HAVE A PREFERENCE!" is a magic get-out-of-jail-free card for racism, et cetera), so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see total canards being repeated as some kind of holy gospel. | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? I understand *you* think they're the same thing. I just totally disagree. I'm not taking anything "out of context". I was making the effort to only quote the specific points I'm responding to, a) for clarity, and b) to spare everyone scrolling past whole walls of text to get to the actual response. I won't bother in future. Fab really needs a better quoting function. I'm sorry, but I just can't get past the patently absurd assertion that "[XYZ] is what you make it". It's just ludicrous. But then this forum on the whole seems to believe some pretty ridiculous stuff (MBTI is a legitimate tool; body hair is blasphemy and must be destroyed; yelling "I HAVE A PREFERENCE!" is a magic get-out-of-jail-free card for racism, et cetera), so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see total canards being repeated as some kind of holy gospel." No need to be condescending | |||
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"I was chatting to a gentleman from Ireland and he was making an assumption that fabbers , generally, are clicky. He meant that the same people answer threads of people they know. I am not sure personally. I think fabbers tend to be neutral and answer the thread with banter, humour and honesty. What say you!" Many are yes | |||
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"we only have responsibility for ourselves ... if things don't work then the only thing we can change is ourselves! Wait, I thought Fab was "what we make it"? But now "the only thing we can change is ourselves". Can't both be true! And guess what? We can't even change ourselves much, either. Height, ethnicity, orientation, disabilities, facial symmetricality, social background, whole bunch of other stuff... Look, I get that it's massively comforting to believe that we can have anything if we just want it enough, but it's demonstrably not true, and pretending otherwise is actively harmful. You don't seem to understand that it is what we make it and taking responsibility for ourselves are eluding to the same thing? .. when you take sentences out of context and use them for just your point of view you seem to miss the whole picture? Or maybe it's manipulating it to fit your narrative? But you've only quoted small parts but seem to have missed the whole point? I understand *you* think they're the same thing. I just totally disagree. I'm not taking anything "out of context". I was making the effort to only quote the specific points I'm responding to, a) for clarity, and b) to spare everyone scrolling past whole walls of text to get to the actual response. I won't bother in future. Fab really needs a better quoting function. I'm sorry, but I just can't get past the patently absurd assertion that "[XYZ] is what you make it". It's just ludicrous. But then this forum on the whole seems to believe some pretty ridiculous stuff (MBTI is a legitimate tool; body hair is blasphemy and must be destroyed; yelling "I HAVE A PREFERENCE!" is a magic get-out-of-jail-free card for racism, et cetera), so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see total canards being repeated as some kind of holy gospel." I actually said they're alluding to the same thing ... so not quite how you have decided to read it. A lot of things taken out of context actually change their meanings as the whole point is missed. And I agree with the poster above regarding there is absolutely no need to be condescending ... a difference of opinion does not need any shouting down. I'm off to bed and sleep now and happily leave you to your view and am happy with my simplistic positivity. Wishing all a good night's sleep | |||
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"i hate it when people complain about cliques everyone automatically talks firstly with those they know you wouldnt walk into a pub ignore your friends and go to sit down with some random stranger" It does not hurt to acknoledge and include though! | |||
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"I agree with those who say that especially in the Irish forums where there is a smaller number of active posters it can appear to be cliquey. I've often posted here or in the lounge and had my comments completely ignored so I tend to stick to the Irish forum where I do have a voice. Despite all that there are obviously people who do encourage cliques and need the oxygen that others supply in the form of public acknowledgement and adulation. I don't have the slightest interest in anyone, man or woman who needs or demands my attention. The word popular is often used incorrectly on here when people think that just because you may be a forum regular and people respond to what you say then it automatically follows that you are popular. It doesn't work that way however. " They are probably discussed in the WhatsApp groups....... | |||
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"Walk up to a group of people on the street. Announce yourself as Jimmy, can we chat. How many will just say hi come and join us (Mormon groups excl.). Why should here be any different." Because it is a virtual situation and it is a meet site. | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) It is all about perception I get that. It's not though, they exist simple, they are real but the only people that notice them are those that feel excluded. So in fact the problem is theirs to own! " It not perceive they are real most of the time it's people that are in the click don't realise they are the effect they have on other people, people will portray themselves to be a somebody they're not in order to be in a click so as not to be left out. I do that there are a few clicks on fab and I do think that sometimes they do bully and kinkshame people. | |||
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"All people are cliquey as it's natural human behaviour ... the only people that notice cliques are those that feel excuded! All a clique is is people that already know each other chatting to the exclusion of others. Strangers are included when one, or more, of the clique include them, then they might become an excepted part of the group. Quite often continuing the clique! Any club, sports, pub, work, party, wedding etc everywhere that people meet have cliques! Even when a number of people meet for the first time cliques are formed from the beginning, those these change very quickly, it's just intrinsic human survival behaviour. Some people are able to move easily between cliques without appearing to notice them, some cliques aren't meant to be entered and some people can't break in! But in all reality, the only people that notice them are the people that feel excluded! And yes, the forums and the chatrooms appear cliquey here for the simple fact the some of the people have chatted for ages, messaged, met etc and are actually chatting, flirting, planning etc to the exclusion of others (seemingly) It is all about perception I get that. It's not though, they exist simple, they are real but the only people that notice them are those that feel excluded. So in fact the problem is theirs to own! It not perceive they are real most of the time it's people that are in the click don't realise they are the effect they have on other people, people will portray themselves to be a somebody they're not in order to be in a click so as not to be left out. I do that there are a few clicks on fab and I do think that sometimes they do bully and kinkshame people. " | |||
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"Walk up to a group of people on the street. Announce yourself as Jimmy, can we chat. How many will just say hi come and join us (Mormon groups excl.). Why should here be any different. Because it is a virtual situation and it is a meet site." Because it's virtual is the excuse used by trolls too. The street is a meet site too. As are many other places. People want to meet who they may like and say no to those they don't, virtual or not. | |||
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"Walk up to a group of people on the street. Announce yourself as Jimmy, can we chat. How many will just say hi come and join us (Mormon groups excl.). Why should here be any different. Because it is a virtual situation and it is a meet site. Because it's virtual is the excuse used by trolls too. The street is a meet site too. As are many other places. People want to meet who they may like and say no to those they don't, virtual or not." I am not sure that the street is a meet place nowadays. | |||
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"Fab is exactly what you choose to make it. Some people just gravitate to agreeable people just like themselves, for safety and comfort, I think people interpret that as clicky. I generally do the opposite, not much interest in group think but I’ve old friends here as well as new friends who I’ve met and some I haven’t yet and some I likely never will. I’ve created several WhatsApp groups and am invited to some others I didn't make. Stop whining about clicks and engage with the people who light you up a little I am not whining.. stop patronising!! " | |||
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"I was chatting to a gentleman from Ireland and he was making an assumption that fabbers , generally, are clicky. He meant that the same people answer threads of people they know. I am not sure personally. I think fabbers tend to be neutral and answer the thread with banter, humour and honesty. What say you!" I don't know you so I won't comment | |||
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"Walk up to a group of people on the street. Announce yourself as Jimmy, can we chat. How many will just say hi come and join us (Mormon groups excl.). Why should here be any different. Because it is a virtual situation and it is a meet site. Because it's virtual is the excuse used by trolls too. The street is a meet site too. As are many other places. People want to meet who they may like and say no to those they don't, virtual or not. I am not sure that the street is a meet place nowadays." Nor should here be at the moment. | |||
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"Walk up to a group of people on the street. Announce yourself as Jimmy, can we chat. How many will just say hi come and join us (Mormon groups excl.). Why should here be any different. Because it is a virtual situation and it is a meet site. Because it's virtual is the excuse used by trolls too. The street is a meet site too. As are many other places. People want to meet who they may like and say no to those they don't, virtual or not. I am not sure that the street is a meet place nowadays. Since you insist, this is at least a contact seeking site.. Nor should here be at the moment." | |||
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