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"It’s a secret ingredient that’s added to wedding cake ?? magical stuff stops all urges to give oral after the wedding night lol " Not in the cakes I bake! | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners " Yeah men are disgusting  | |||
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Although I do have friends who definitely don’t give their partner any blowjobs except on a birthday or anniversary x | |||
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"How comes wives and long-term girlfriends don’t seem to suck cock? I’ve heard this from the majority of straight men over 40 but also many younger. I don’t understand why women suddenly seem to stop giving oral sex and how this happens? Obviously this isn’t true for all women but I’m just curious when / why it stops cause there seems to be loads of frustrated men out there seeking blowjobs from men and Tv’s " probably to busy piping some one else off  | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners " Fab response! | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners " Of course it is. | |||
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"Am I a weird wife then?! Mr KC gets plenty of blowjobs "Nope definitely not K loves giving me BJs and always wants to swallow. She likes it as much as I do going down on her. For us with our 1st baby who is 5 months oral sex (each way) is a perfect way to give your partner an orgasms whenever you get to steal 5 minutes! KJ | |||
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"Am I a weird wife then?! Mr KC gets plenty of blowjobs
Nope definitely not K loves giving me BJs and always wants to swallow. She likes it as much as I do going down on her.
For us with our 1st baby who is 5 months oral sex (each way) is a perfect way to give your partner an orgasms whenever you get to steal 5 minutes!
KJ "Sounds exactly like us | |||
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"From my marriage experience, my husband gained 5 stones (not an exaggeration). He also decided he no longer wanted to go down on me but still expected me to go down on him. He was fat, sweaty and I didn’t fancy him any more so why should I? " This. My ex wouldn’t go down on me but still expected all the bj’s. It’s a two way street in my book. If it ain’t mutual it ain’t fun. | |||
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"Maybe it's more to do with the women being bored sexually, and not being made to feel sexy? I bet if you put that same wife into bed with a new guy who was showering get with attention and lust, she'd be gagging on his cock pretty quickly. Lust fades. Simple." Yes this... Although... Personally I still know how to shower and find my aftershave and buy flowers... Doesn't get me a bj. As you said... When the fb pops in she's all over it like it's the last one she will ever see. Although this last 15 months may have put paid to that. We will see. | |||
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"*40" do u give BJ's lol | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting "she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience "Yup have to say I agree many many of my vanilla friends say the same .... ‘he comes to bed after a few beers with a piss soaked cock and expects me to suck it’ ... is a phrase I remember from a last zoom get together... | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience "Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored. | |||
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"*40do u give BJ's lol" Unfortunately I've no one to give to  | |||
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"They don't need to, once they have snared their man. I know women who begrudgingly let their husbands jump on now and then, just to keep them happy. As long as the wallet is still at their disposal they don't bother with the yukky sex stuff. " as a long term single who especially this year is soooo soooo over it , i cant honestly decide which is worse , the thought of being alone forever so i can always keep stuff fresh with someone new , or having someone by my side and being that miserable - i really hope there is a glass more full option headed my way | |||
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"They don't need to, once they have snared their man. I know women who begrudgingly let their husbands jump on now and then, just to keep them happy. As long as the wallet is still at their disposal they don't bother with the yukky sex stuff. " Not with the husband anyway | |||
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"They don't need to, once they have snared their man. I know women who begrudgingly let their husbands jump on now and then, just to keep them happy. As long as the wallet is still at their disposal they don't bother with the yukky sex stuff. " On the other side I know women who earn twice as much as their husbands and they husbands are ignoring them abs spending every spare second on fab.... there is no generalising and gone are the days where women rely on men for money. | |||
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"This all reminds me why I'm the luckiest woman in the world. I have a gorgeous husband, who is sexier now than he was 17 years ago and gets sexier all the time. There's not a single domestic task he won't do/try to do, he and I are equal parents, he supports and pushes me in my career (I'm more senior than him), in my volunteering, in my sporting endeavours. I'd like to think I support him in everything he does too (he'll have to be asked). Our sex life is amazing and we both give and receive whatever it is we wish." Thats lovely xx | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
"if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves "I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going. | |||
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"They don't need to, once they have snared their man. I know women who begrudgingly let their husbands jump on now and then, just to keep them happy. As long as the wallet is still at their disposal they don't bother with the yukky sex stuff. On the other side I know women who earn twice as much as their husbands and they husbands are ignoring them abs spending every spare second on fab.... there is no generalising and gone are the days where women rely on men for money. " No generalising but it's always the man's fault according to the women on these forums. Can't ever be that the women at fault. | |||
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"They don't need to, once they have snared their man. I know women who begrudgingly let their husbands jump on now and then, just to keep them happy. As long as the wallet is still at their disposal they don't bother with the yukky sex stuff. Not with the husband anyway" lol that's true too. But, women don't cheat, silly. | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going. "it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy | |||
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"This long term after 7 years still dose. Still honing my skills and techique. My fella rarly cums from a bj from others. I get him everytime and regually. Sloppy bj, deep throat, frenileum lick, edging the list gose on. "Sounds like you’ve got a keeper here you lucky sod !  | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy "I can't comment for others... But she loved it.. Hence being woken every morning with one for years. Whenever she's playing with others she can't get enough... I think the op has a point... Just sometimes it's not anybody else's fault or reason. Just stops... | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy "Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him. | |||
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" it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him. " So you think a woman should perform a sexual act that she doesn’t want to and doesn’t enjoy just to keep her husband happy? | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
"oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy "There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse. People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give? | |||
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"My wife still adores giving me oral and needs no invitation even after being together over 20 years. She even wakes me on weekend mornings by blowing my trumpet so to speak." As things should be, Mr Tender  | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?"There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no. | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy "I think the point is "they" sucked cock at the start of the relationship and made no indication they didn't enjoy it... presumably did so enthusiastically enough till they get a ring... then no sucky sucky. And to answer your question, I'd let you strapon me once a week if it made you happy  | |||
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" There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse. People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give? " who says there is a difference? because personally you enjoy one but not the other? who decided which are the must do sex acts and which are the optionals? if someone doesn’t like either there is no difference at all its totally not a woman take and not give thing, its nothing to do with gender and everything to do with having a sex life that both partners enjoy | |||
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"I think the op point was not that they never liked doing it and therefore did not do it anymore. But that they like it and were happy to do it to start with and then over time stop with their partner. I don't think anybody expects anybody else to do anything they don't like doing. I think the corollary here is whether or not they still enjoy / expect oral on them. "  this | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no. "The orifice makes all the difference to me. And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked. | |||
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" There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse. People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give? who says there is a difference? because personally you enjoy one but not the other? who decided which are the must do sex acts and which are the optionals? if someone doesn’t like either there is no difference at all its totally not a woman take and not give thing, its nothing to do with gender and everything to do with having a sex life that both partners enjoy " If they don't like doing it from the start and he knows that then that's all on him. | |||
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"I think the op point was not that they never liked doing it and therefore did not do it anymore. But that they like it and were happy to do it to start with and then over time stop with their partner. I don't think anybody expects anybody else to do anything they don't like doing. I think the corollary here is whether or not they still enjoy / expect oral on them. " yeah i get this is your situation, but others are suggesting people should just suck it up (pun intended) and get on with it, for you i guess moving expectations with no explanation is hard , the only thing i can suggest is conversation , maybe some sort of sex counselling but maybe you already tried both | |||
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"My wife still adores giving me oral and needs no invitation even after being together over 20 years. She even wakes me on weekend mornings by blowing my trumpet so to speak. As things should be, Mr Tender "I’d put money on you still getting a good tune as well young lady! | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
Really? So you’re justifying infidelity because she won’t ‘take one for the team’ ..... then he shouldn’t be surprised if he’s looking for another mortgage to restart his life due to being a selfish bastard then should he "She won't be taking one for the team. She'll be showing how much she loves her husband by sucking his cock once in a blue moon. He's not asking to fist her arse. It's a cock sucking. I think women should be upfront about what they don't like doing, instead of suffering it until they get the ring and the house. That way the men can make an informed decision. | |||
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"My wife still adores giving me oral and needs no invitation even after being together over 20 years. She even wakes me on weekend mornings by blowing my trumpet so to speak. As things should be, Mr Tender
I’d put money on you still getting a good tune as well young lady! "Oh, I blow, I blow
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
"So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years? The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
Really? So you’re justifying infidelity because she won’t ‘take one for the team’ ..... then he shouldn’t be surprised if he’s looking for another mortgage to restart his life due to being a selfish bastard then should he
She won't be taking one for the team. She'll be showing how much she loves her husband by sucking his cock once in a blue moon.
He's not asking to fist her arse. It's a cock sucking.
I think women should be upfront about what they don't like doing, instead of suffering it until they get the ring and the house.
That way the men can make an informed decision.
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
Really? So you’re justifying infidelity because she won’t ‘take one for the team’ ..... then he shouldn’t be surprised if he’s looking for another mortgage to restart his life due to being a selfish bastard then should he
She won't be taking one for the team. She'll be showing how much she loves her husband by sucking his cock once in a blue moon.
He's not asking to fist her arse. It's a cock sucking.
I think women should be upfront about what they don't like doing, instead of suffering it until they get the ring and the house.
That way the men can make an informed decision.
As I said I don’t think anyone should perform a sexual act on anyone else that they don’t want to no matter how entitled the other person feels that they deserve it.
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely "Yeah... but I mean... going without head ... FOREVER ... actually knowing you've had your last blow job...  I don't think any woman cooks a good enough steak for that sacrifice. | |||
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"How comes wives and long-term girlfriends don’t seem to suck cock? I’ve heard this from the majority of straight men over 40 but also many younger. I don’t understand why women suddenly seem to stop giving oral sex and how this happens? Obviously this isn’t true for all women but I’m just curious when / why it stops cause there seems to be loads of frustrated men out there seeking blowjobs from men and Tv’s " Or maybe there are just lots of men who actually don't want to be honest & admit that they want a man or TV to suck their cock, so they use the "my wife doesn't want to" excuse? | |||
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"Have you told these chaps that washing their cocks may help?" I still do it, and love it. Actually, I can't get enough of it... | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
I think the point is "they" sucked cock at the start of the relationship and made no indication they didn't enjoy it... presumably did so enthusiastically enough till they get a ring... then no sucky sucky. And to answer your question, I'd let you strapon me once a week if it made you happy "You'd give her your ring? | |||
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"How comes wives and long-term girlfriends don’t seem to suck cock? I’ve heard this from the majority of straight men over 40 but also many younger. I don’t understand why women suddenly seem to stop giving oral sex and how this happens? Obviously this isn’t true for all women but I’m just curious when / why it stops cause there seems to be loads of frustrated men out there seeking blowjobs from men and Tv’s Or maybe there are just lots of men who actually don't want to be honest & admit that they want a man or TV to suck their cock, so they use the "my wife doesn't want to" excuse? " | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely "I believe that intimacy is a very important part of married life and should continue throughout. When my husband stopped all intimacy with me I did nothing. According to you he was well within his rights to never kiss or touch me. | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
Really? So you’re justifying infidelity because she won’t ‘take one for the team’ ..... then he shouldn’t be surprised if he’s looking for another mortgage to restart his life due to being a selfish bastard then should he
She won't be taking one for the team. She'll be showing how much she loves her husband by sucking his cock once in a blue moon.
He's not asking to fist her arse. It's a cock sucking.
I think women should be upfront about what they don't like doing, instead of suffering it until they get the ring and the house.
That way the men can make an informed decision.
As I said I don’t think anyone should perform a sexual act on anyone else that they don’t want to no matter how entitled the other person feels that they deserve it.
I have to disagree to some extent.
Women know what's expected of them before they get married and should be truthful about it.
"Expected of them? I thought the right for men to claim sex from their wives regardless of their wishes had been abolished decades ago.
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely
Yeah... but I mean... going without head ... FOREVER ... actually knowing you've had your last blow job... I don't think any woman cooks a good enough steak for that sacrifice. "I bet they would do it if they were promised a debit card and and hour of online shopping after. | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely
I believe that intimacy is a very important part of married life and should continue throughout.
When my husband stopped all intimacy with me I did nothing. According to you he was well within his rights to never kiss or touch me."Yes he was within his rights not to have sex with you. Your right was to accept that/ end the relationship/ find intimacy elsewhere. He shouldn’t have just had sex with you when he didn’t want to no he shouldn’t | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
Really? So you’re justifying infidelity because she won’t ‘take one for the team’ ..... then he shouldn’t be surprised if he’s looking for another mortgage to restart his life due to being a selfish bastard then should he
She won't be taking one for the team. She'll be showing how much she loves her husband by sucking his cock once in a blue moon.
He's not asking to fist her arse. It's a cock sucking.
I think women should be upfront about what they don't like doing, instead of suffering it until they get the ring and the house.
That way the men can make an informed decision.
As I said I don’t think anyone should perform a sexual act on anyone else that they don’t want to no matter how entitled the other person feels that they deserve it.
I have to disagree to some extent.
Women know what's expected of them before they get married and should be truthful about it.
Expected of them? I thought the right for men to claim sex from their wives regardless of their wishes had been abolished decades ago.
Under no circumstances should anyone be forced to ‘suck cock’ if they don’t want to. If men think. Mow jobs are more important than they need to leave the relationship. "I expected all kinds of intimacy from my husband. It all stopped for no apparent reason. Doesn't matter though, as long as he's ok. | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely
Yeah... but I mean... going without head ... FOREVER ... actually knowing you've had your last blow job... I don't think any woman cooks a good enough steak for that sacrifice.
I bet they would do it if they were promised a debit card and and hour of online shopping after.
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely
I believe that intimacy is a very important part of married life and should continue throughout.
When my husband stopped all intimacy with me I did nothing. According to you he was well within his rights to never kiss or touch me.
Yes he was within his rights not to have sex with you. Your right was to accept that/ end the relationship/ find intimacy elsewhere. He shouldn’t have just had sex with you when he didn’t want to no he shouldn’t"The men the OP is talking about did find intimacy elsewhere. I don't blame them. | |||
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if i go into a marriage i expect to be an equal , i expect to be a partner, one half of a whole , supporting each other through the times i want to jump their bones 10 times a week and the times when sex drives dip and its less often (and likewise for their sex drive peaks and dips) , through the holidays and fun times and the chores and the family bereavements and the dull tuesdays on the couch
if i am supposed to go into in thinking its expected of me to “service” my man once a week even if i am not up for it and i have to remain exactly the person i was when we met no matter what else in life may have changed, then thats a relationship i want no part of and a man i have no interest in  | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely
Yeah... but I mean... going without head ... FOREVER ... actually knowing you've had your last blow job... I don't think any woman cooks a good enough steak for that sacrifice.
I bet they would do it if they were promised a debit card and and hour of online shopping after.
Wow you really hate women don’t you .... best of luck I’m out "About as much as you hate men. | |||
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" I have to disagree to some extent. Women know what's expected of them before they get married and should be truthful about it. have i napped and woke up in 1950
if i go into a marriage i expect to be an equal , i expect to be a partner, one half of a whole , supporting each other through the times i want to jump their bones 10 times a week and the times when sex drives dip and its less often (and likewise for their sex drive peaks and dips) , through the holidays and fun times and the chores and the family bereavements and the dull tuesdays on the couch
if i am supposed to go into in thinking its expected of me to “service” my man once a week even if i am not up for it and i have to remain exactly the person i was when we met no matter what else in life may have changed, then thats a relationship i want no part of and a man i have no interest in "No, you're on a sex site in 2021 where women do no wrong and all men are cunts with dicks that stink of piss. | |||
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"I have a friend who won’t ask his wife as he simply puts it ‘ she kisses my babies with that mouth’ so for him he doesn’t want it from her. " We met someone at a club one night that had that attitude. What anasshole! | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
Really? So you’re justifying infidelity because she won’t ‘take one for the team’ ..... then he shouldn’t be surprised if he’s looking for another mortgage to restart his life due to being a selfish bastard then should he
She won't be taking one for the team. She'll be showing how much she loves her husband by sucking his cock once in a blue moon.
He's not asking to fist her arse. It's a cock sucking.
I think women should be upfront about what they don't like doing, instead of suffering it until they get the ring and the house.
That way the men can make an informed decision.
As I said I don’t think anyone should perform a sexual act on anyone else that they don’t want to no matter how entitled the other person feels that they deserve it.
I have to disagree to some extent.
Women know what's expected of them before they get married and should be truthful about it.
Expected of them? I thought the right for men to claim sex from their wives regardless of their wishes had been abolished decades ago.
Under no circumstances should anyone be forced to ‘suck cock’ if they don’t want to. If men think. Mow jobs are more important than they need to leave the relationship.
I expected all kinds of intimacy from my husband. It all stopped for no apparent reason.
Doesn't matter though, as long as he's ok."that is not what is being said at all , its a partnership , its not just about one person being ok, yes sometimes one carry’s the other for a while and then the balance shifts and sometimes you come together and sometimes drift apart, and if you drift for too long and it becomes too difficult sometimes the best thing for both is to end that partnership but wether it be one partner unhappy giving sexual favours they don’t want to , or one partner unhappy getting no sex at all - either way you have one person unhappy , there isn’t one better than the other there | |||
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" I have to disagree to some extent. Women know what's expected of them before they get married and should be truthful about it. have i napped and woke up in 1950
if i go into a marriage i expect to be an equal , i expect to be a partner, one half of a whole , supporting each other through the times i want to jump their bones 10 times a week and the times when sex drives dip and its less often (and likewise for their sex drive peaks and dips) , through the holidays and fun times and the chores and the family bereavements and the dull tuesdays on the couch
if i am supposed to go into in thinking its expected of me to “service” my man once a week even if i am not up for it and i have to remain exactly the person i was when we met no matter what else in life may have changed, then thats a relationship i want no part of and a man i have no interest in
No, you're on a sex site in 2021 where women do no wrong and all men are cunts with dicks that stink of piss.
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" I have to disagree to some extent. Women know what's expected of them before they get married and should be truthful about it. have i napped and woke up in 1950
if i go into a marriage i expect to be an equal , i expect to be a partner, one half of a whole , supporting each other through the times i want to jump their bones 10 times a week and the times when sex drives dip and its less often (and likewise for their sex drive peaks and dips) , through the holidays and fun times and the chores and the family bereavements and the dull tuesdays on the couch
if i am supposed to go into in thinking its expected of me to “service” my man once a week even if i am not up for it and i have to remain exactly the person i was when we met no matter what else in life may have changed, then thats a relationship i want no part of and a man i have no interest in
No, you're on a sex site in 2021 where women do no wrong and all men are cunts with dicks that stink of piss.
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"Perhaps the men stopped making an effort so these women did too This was when I stopped with my ex, that and the constant criticism I didn't do it enough or the right way Perhaps the men carried on with all of their efforts and the women stopped making the effort? " I was giving my point of view in my old relationship, I was exhausted from looking after two small children and working full time and running the house, he did nothing to help except do the dishes (when he could be bothered), but I was supposed to give him what he wanted when he wanted it.... One I didn't have the energy, two I didn't exactly feel in the mood/sexy however you want to phrase it and three he didn't give a shit about my needs only what he wanted when it came to sex, I was expected to go down on him pleasure him with nothing in return,sometimes it wasn't even pleasant no shower etc. Our sexlife was fine prior to that, what changed was his attitude towards me. now I'm not with him I actually love giving oral and happily do it | |||
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"So it would seem that in answer to the ops question. Why do some women stop giving their partners bjs... The answer is... The men. I was hoping to find a silver bullet of wisdom in here instead the usual misandry. " It's never the women's fault. Women are faultless on here. That's me. I'm women | |||
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"Perhaps the men stopped making an effort so these women did too This was when I stopped with my ex, that and the constant criticism I didn't do it enough or the right way Perhaps the men carried on with all of their efforts and the women stopped making the effort? i think honestly something has to have changed , it doesn’t need to be something the man changed , or something the woman changed, it could just be something in life that changed , but you don’t go from loving it to never wanting to do it without there being some reason , wether it be small gradual ones or one big one the only way to get to the bottom of it really is if both partners want to have some really honest conversation " Well said i totally agree with that x | |||
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"Perhaps the men stopped making an effort so these women did too This was when I stopped with my ex, that and the constant criticism I didn't do it enough or the right way Perhaps the men carried on with all of their efforts and the women stopped making the effort? i think honestly something has to have changed , it doesn’t need to be something the man changed , or something the woman changed, it could just be something in life that changed , but you don’t go from loving it to never wanting to do it without there being some reason , wether it be small gradual ones or one big one the only way to get to the bottom of it really is if both partners want to have some really honest conversation " Yep agree with that. | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners " Perhaps just guessing isn’t quite the way forward.. amazing how it seems okay for women to make assumptions which are frankly sexist. Just because your unfortunate partner does fuck all round the house doesn’t mean it’s okay to make sweeping statements based on spurious generalised inaccurate statements.. tbh he’s probably not missing your half hearted attempts at oral. Chin up | |||
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"Perhaps the men stopped making an effort so these women did too This was when I stopped with my ex, that and the constant criticism I didn't do it enough or the right way Perhaps the men carried on with all of their efforts and the women stopped making the effort? i think honestly something has to have changed , it doesn’t need to be something the man changed , or something the woman changed, it could just be something in life that changed , but you don’t go from loving it to never wanting to do it without there being some reason , wether it be small gradual ones or one big one the only way to get to the bottom of it really is if both partners want to have some really honest conversation " Totally agree x | |||
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"Did you find a very old copy of Playboy and read about this? If your woman does not love giving head you chose the wrong woman. Life sucks! Xx" My wife never really enjoyed sucking my cock, she would always stop when she tasted my precum, never finished me off orally. She probably gave me the mental hang-up which prevents me cumming from oral with other women? I have no desire to try a bj from a bi guy or TV, but I can confirm, there was a definite decline in well, sex generally, once we had our children, and it wasn’t for a lack of trying on my part. The Fab friends I have would, I’m sure, back me up when I say I am a ‘giver’  | |||
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"So it would seem that in answer to the ops question. Why do some women stop giving their partners bjs... The answer is... The men. I was hoping to find a silver bullet of wisdom in here instead the usual misandry. " I really don’t know the answer and tbh I would hazard a guess that most of the women on here wouldn’t know either as we do like it. Relationships are hard it’s rare that people want the same thing - I guess balance is key. I haven’t a clue tbh but don’t think the whole fault lies with men ..... | |||
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"Because men get lazy and they don't deserve a treat .. "
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"How comes wives and long-term girlfriends don’t seem to suck cock? I’ve heard this from the majority of straight men over 40 but also many younger. I don’t understand why women suddenly seem to stop giving oral sex and how this happens? Obviously this isn’t true for all women but I’m just curious when / why it stops cause there seems to be loads of frustrated men out there seeking blowjobs from men and Tv’s " If the cupboard is empty at home, a hungry man will go out to forage for food....... | |||
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I'll probably get lynched for saying this but it's sooooo much less messy to suck and swallow - so reduces the "chores" too lol.
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"Massive bj fans here, I adore giving Alex them and he loves me doing it so works brilliantly for both of us. He does taste incredibly good it's gotta be said so I can't help but swallow every delicious mouthful.... And keep sucking to make sure I've got every last drop. .
I'll probably get lynched for saying this but it's sooooo much less messy to suck and swallow - so reduces the "chores" too lol.
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"Massive bj fans here, I adore giving Alex them and he loves me doing it so works brilliantly for both of us. He does taste incredibly good it's gotta be said so I can't help but swallow every delicious mouthful.... And keep sucking to make sure I've got every last drop. .
I'll probably get lynched for saying this but it's sooooo much less messy to suck and swallow - so reduces the "chores" too lol.
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"I think some of these guys are telling fibs OP but lets see what other who comment in the thread say "my ex told people I wasnt doing this or sex. The actual truth was I offered daily and was told no. Obviously the women he was having an affair with needed to think I was denying him. I have met women even within swinging that dont like to give oral etc. | |||
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"My OH was in the forces so worked with lots of people and he would say the majority said the same thing It seems odd that "some" women seem to stop with the BJs but I don't think it is all the mans fault as suggested above." I've heard this hundreds of times for sex in general, not just oral. It might be for a lot of reasons and perhaps it's often if they're not compatible - he wants to dress up in her panties and she doesn't find that sexy or he always wants anal and she doesn't enjoy it, as a couple of examples, but it could be for a million reasons. | |||
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"I'm not sure fab is the audience for this... However, if I had to hazard a guess then I would put my money on the day to day living with those men is so draining (with most women in the household carrying the lions share for house work and the mental load for running a household) that the last thing they have the energy for is pleasuring the person in their lives that is the biggest drain on their energy. The issue is with the blokes, not their partners Yeah men are disgusting
she does say “those men” , i imagine there are also plenty households where the load and sexual pleasure is shared evenly , but as a woman who has many married female friends that talk, i think her post is pretty spot on description of their experience
Well that's good Intel! Not to be ignored.
if it helps i don’t actually think their men try to be that way, but its silly things like he says i will do the shop, but she still has to plan the weeks meals , see whats in the cupboards, turn that into a shopping list, he goes off to the shops alone to shop in peace , rings her 4 times while he is there , shes at home with the kids still and cleaning the house while he is gone - how much of the chore and mental load of that has he really taken? very very little , but the guy thinks well i did a good thing i pitched in
problem is its started way way younger when mothers teach their daughters how to keep a house and do everything for their sons , so the wife either has to do the stuff , or be a nag for taking the “mother role” in retraining the husbands outlook he had since childhood
i know this absolutely is not every relationship, but really for the ones it is , its an uphill battle and will probably only be solved by teaching the next generation of kids that they all need to be able to look after themselves
I get that... Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
It's nothing like mine and doesnt explain why mine has become an annual event rather than a daily one. I'm sure I'm part of the issue.. But it takes two to keep things going.
it can also be absolutely none of that and just a sexual act she doesnt enjoy
Wouldn't hurt to give one once a week though. I do know a woman who couldn't give them though as she gagged whenever a cock was in her mouth. He still married her though, bless him.
oh i totally disagree, if a guy didn’t like butt play but you got a kick from pegging would you expect him just to bend over once a week because there is no harm
it’s difficult if there is a sexual incompatibility sure, but nobody really should have to do something they don’t enjoy just to keep someone else happy
There's quite a bit of difference between putting something in your mouth or in your arse.
People should do things to keep partners happy. Isn't that part of being in a relationship? Or are women supposed to take and not give?
There is zero difference in performing a sexual act that you don’t want to just because your partner wants you to. Has fuck all to do with what genitalia you have no mean no.
The orifice makes all the difference to me.
And if a wife refuses to do something like sucking a cock she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere to get it sucked.
So you don’t think a person over a whole lifetime is allowed to change what they do and don’t like and has the right to not do what they don’t want? You think a man’s right to have his cock sucked trumps everything else in a relationship spanning 20 years?
The orifice makes no difference it’s about sexual satisfaction and being allowed to communicate that without fear of your partner saying ‘you do it or someone else will’ surely
Yeah... but I mean... going without head ... FOREVER ... actually knowing you've had your last blow job... I don't think any woman cooks a good enough steak for that sacrifice.
I bet they would do it if they were promised a debit card and and hour of online shopping after.
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"My OH was in the forces so worked with lots of people and he would say the majority said the same thing It seems odd that "some" women seem to stop with the BJs but I don't think it is all the mans fault as suggested above. Definitely agree... and from personal experience... bedroom effort is seen as lie back and let the man pound and please.. it’s of course a big generalization but a lot of women are very lazy in the bedroom after the wedding ring is on... BJs are seen as a commodity... it’s no point asking ladies who are on fab their opinion as I would say all are more than eager in the sexual stakes including BJs ... a lot of women are just lazy and aren’t bothered to please their hubbies... just my experiences and from men I know "this post highlights one of the problems i think there is - pure lack of communication leave 2 people with opposite views of what is actually going on - what you just described as a lazy woman lie there to be pounded and pleased, sounds much more to me like lying there to be pounded and get it over with - so chances are both parties are incredibly unhappy with that sex life while both of them probably think the other is getting their needs met if someone is like a dead fish rather than getting actively involved (man or woman) , chances are high they are not having a good time | |||
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"Maybe you just married the wrong girl "Maybe he married the right one at the time, but over the years she's changed her love of sucking cock? Doesn't make anyone wrong. Just, as has been said a few times, people change. Relationships change. | |||
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"My OH was in the forces so worked with lots of people and he would say the majority said the same thing It seems odd that "some" women seem to stop with the BJs but I don't think it is all the mans fault as suggested above. Definitely agree... and from personal experience... bedroom effort is seen as lie back and let the man pound and please.. it’s of course a big generalization but a lot of women are very lazy in the bedroom after the wedding ring is on... BJs are seen as a commodity... it’s no point asking ladies who are on fab their opinion as I would say all are more than eager in the sexual stakes including BJs ... a lot of women are just lazy and aren’t bothered to please their hubbies... just my experiences and from men I know
this post highlights one of the problems i think there is - pure lack of communication leave 2 people with opposite views of what is actually going on - what you just described as a lazy woman lie there to be pounded and pleased, sounds much more to me like lying there to be pounded and get it over with - so chances are both parties are incredibly unhappy with that sex life while both of them probably think the other is getting their needs met
if someone is like a dead fish rather than getting actively involved (man or woman) , chances are high they are not having a good time "Exactly this ..... so many of my friends talk of the ‘monthly lay back and get it over with’ ... sounds bloody awful for both people. So sad | |||
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"My OH was in the forces so worked with lots of people and he would say the majority said the same thing It seems odd that "some" women seem to stop with the BJs but I don't think it is all the mans fault as suggested above. Definitely agree... and from personal experience... bedroom effort is seen as lie back and let the man pound and please.. it’s of course a big generalization but a lot of women are very lazy in the bedroom after the wedding ring is on... BJs are seen as a commodity... it’s no point asking ladies who are on fab their opinion as I would say all are more than eager in the sexual stakes including BJs ... a lot of women are just lazy and aren’t bothered to please their hubbies... just my experiences and from men I know ". It often works both ways .. if the guy doesn’t please the women before popping it in . Then she will not please him ... | |||
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"How comes wives and long-term girlfriends don’t seem to suck cock? I’ve heard this from the majority of straight men over 40 but also many younger. I don’t understand why women suddenly seem to stop giving oral sex and how this happens? Obviously this isn’t true for all women but I’m just curious when / why it stops cause there seems to be loads of frustrated men out there seeking blowjobs from men and Tv’s " . You're right on one thing... It isn't true for all women | |||
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"I've heard this said before. No idea if it's true or representative but it does play into the outdated idea that women trap men into a relationship by dishing out sexual favours then when they're well and truly hooked withdraw those favours. The reality is probably down to complacency, boredom and lack of effort from both parties." | |||
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