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"Do you like married men whose wife is aware of him having sex with others or is it the cheating element that does it for you?" Im yet to come across a guy whos mrs knew about me. I think. Never thought of it as the cheating element but... i suppose it is. (I've typed this out 3x and come to the conclusion it must be) | |||
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"I prefer the equal playing field. I think you know then what’s expected- discreetness wise and there’s mutual understanding. " Unless your 3 years in a "mutual friendship" and he demands you make moves with him | |||
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"I know that married men aren’t going to fall in love with me... " Is that always the case those Desi? How do u know if your seeing them for a while you wont catch feelings? X | |||
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"No it’s not a kink I follow. I don’t like people who cheat or who give people chance to cheat BUT each to their own. " I get this. Each to their own | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play " I kind of like married women for the same reasons. | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play I kind of like married women for the same reasons. " | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play I kind of like married women for the same reasons. " Oh yes, married women are delightful | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play " I think I would like a game of hide the wedding ring lol xx | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath " From your profile: “ Be proud to be a good human, not proud you got away with something that could hurt someones soul.“ Exactly why I won’t meet cheaters. | |||
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"Miss B had the fantasy of fucking a married man during her open previous relationship... she fulfilled that fantasy and here we are, together x" not exactly true | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath " We did read your profile and whole heartedly agree with what you said above. Seems some try and justify the reason why their cheating is justified but that still means they’re are thinking about themselves and not the person they’re cheating on. | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. " Best comment so far | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. " So so true. Sometimes its needed to keep the other person sane. | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. " Im not sure if girl code is right term to reference. Of course you have moments of guilt. Any human would. But im not asking them 2 run off in the sunset with me. Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol. | |||
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"If you knowingly do something that will undoubtedly and deeply hurt your partner and children, then I personally would say it's wrong. People can make all the excuses they want, but there's nothing good about cheating, or the person doing it!" But what if. Youve had the convo with partner about being unhappy. Attempted to sort several times over. And... its just not there anymore. You love them and your home life dearly. And in order to stick around you find that desire somewhere else? | |||
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"If you knowingly do something that will undoubtedly and deeply hurt your partner and children, then I personally would say it's wrong. People can make all the excuses they want, but there's nothing good about cheating, or the person doing it! But what if. Youve had the convo with partner about being unhappy. Attempted to sort several times over. And... its just not there anymore. You love them and your home life dearly. And in order to stick around you find that desire somewhere else? " I understand that totally, so tell him that you'll find it elsewhere, them it's not cheating. | |||
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"Love a taken woman, although I never think of her like that during a meet. It is all about the sex. Yes cheats aren't for everyone like anal isn't for everyone or bdsm, it is and always should be, each to their own. What seems ghastly for one is a turn on for others. Although there are lines that should never be crossed. " Too true | |||
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"Cheating is scummy and can really hurt folk. If the person your cheating with has a violent partner you could end up getting a smack or worse. If you have permision thats different but to activly do it without is just wrong. All this crap about if your happy but no sex yada yada but i cant leave, yes you can. If someone doesnt want sex its hard but if you really cant be with someone and be without it then just leave if you have talked about it and they wont budge or decide whats more important sex or your life. Dont say you cant live without it because as someone who has been alone 5 years i have had hardly any sex and yes its shit but you have to get on with it." In your opinion yeah... | |||
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"LETS CLEARLY POINT OUT THIS IS NOT JUST A MALE CHEATING. "both sexes do it" There are lots of other cases to consider aswell. If 1 of a otherwise happy partnership has lost there sex drive/want. They still love each other as people/friends, have a great life, love doing the same things so will stay 100% together. A. Loves sex and is very capable always horny and needs it. B. No interest in sex anymore. B. Is shy, does not wish to discuss sex or have it and has never really liked sex anyway. A. Has already had sex with others to satisfy there own sexual needs and give pleasure to others only. B. Knows as found out or has been told about it and dislikes it and would never give full permission or agree if asked, so turns a blind eye. ----- Is .A. wrong and a cheater?? When they have sex with another without telling .B.. --- I say NO imho this is satisfying a need/want. And sites like FabSwing may save a crime or other mistreatment. Or vile usage of a red area street person. --- From vast experience i can tell you all there a lots of swing and world wide other A and B relationships in similar situations especially in age groups 45 to 75. ---- Nuff said agree or disagree that is your right to do so. Have fun. Terry." May save a crime?! Excuse me but WTF? | |||
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"It is my own opinion. If you are happy with those type of morals then what you do is your business but its a risky game and someone always gets hurt as i have seen the effects this has. I hope you find a decent guy someday so you dont feel you have to do this." No verifications and looking for married couples? Confusing | |||
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"It is my own opinion. If you are happy with those type of morals then what you do is your business but its a risky game and someone always gets hurt as i have seen the effects this has. I hope you find a decent guy someday so you dont feel you have to do this. No verifications and looking for married couples? Confusing " Yeah i thought this myself. Along with the "dont lie im not in2 drama" Im not lying. Im not single and my preference is 2 see someone who also isnt single. X | |||
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"It is my own opinion. If you are happy with those type of morals then what you do is your business but its a risky game and someone always gets hurt as i have seen the effects this has. I hope you find a decent guy someday so you dont feel you have to do this. No verifications and looking for married couples? Confusing " Married couples generally have permission and we are in kockdown so i cant get veris as im not meeting. You clearly no this. | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play " Totally get it, this used to turn me on massively | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play I think I would like a game of hide the wedding ring lol xx " I have permission and don't wear a ring. | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play Totally get it, this used to turn me on massively " | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. " | |||
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"I know that married men aren’t going to fall in love with me... Is that always the case those Desi? How do u know if your seeing them for a while you wont catch feelings? X" I don’t want a relationship right now in life. I want to focus on specific goals for which I don’t want the baggage and expectations of being in a relationship I am cautious of single men because most are often after relationships of some sort (no matter how much they deny it - they want the gf experience) - especially in Covid times when the lack of depth in nsa has enabled many to realise how vulnerable and lonely they are. And it’s really hard for me to fall in love with someone.. | |||
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"Wow.... 11 hours and it's still not reached the magical 175?!if this was a guy it would get there in 11 minutes and be full of judgmental comments calling for the OP's head. Really nothing against you OP, just the double standards of fab I guess. I've met married men before but as I am not a married person my situation is different and I did fall in love. Now I choose to not knowingly meet married or attached guys. If you can reconcile how your partner and theirs would feel if they found out then go for it. One question though.... How would you feel of your partner was on here and meeting other women behind your back? " Honestly. Ive had this discussion with a few of the girls and my guy... and id be happy that he found himself again with someone else. Id ask if he wanted 2 leave or enjoy himself with someone else and keep our home life separate. (Weve had this discussion so many times over the years and his response has always been im happy im fine) Well thats great you are but... girls got needs - and if it means me getting my kicks elsewhere 2 keep our home situ good. Then ... | |||
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"Plus I want them to go home after sex lol " Hahahaa the honesty. I love it. X | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. " Leave but support them financially as any parent should when it comes to their children. Problem solved. | |||
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"We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address. In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple. She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts. Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife! Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single. However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party? Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even? Genuinely interested in your views and response on this. KJ" I have been in this situ. I was seeing a guy for 3 years off here. His wife found out about me. It resulted in her turning up at my work place. And anywhere else she could to try and establish why. After a coffee and a conversation with her (she insisted)... of course i felt shit - myself and him had caused this innocent woman to question everything. Every single thing. But... and this is a big but... they're now happy. Together. Sorted their shit. Of course the innocent party finding out isnt something id ever want or make moves 2 happen. Because yes its not nice. And any venom aimed at me would be well deserved. | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath " I loved your profile.. in fact.. you sound just like me and my profile but with more zest, balls and profanities... really.. best one I’ve seen! I also don’t meet attached/married or it’s complicated.. I’ve been on the other end of the cheaters web of lies.. and took me years to pick myself up and even start to like myself again because it ruined me mentally and emotionally. I would never knowingly assist in causing that pain to anyone. | |||
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"Also just to clarify... and this may stop my inbox being bombarded with women saying I'm a home wrecking heathen whore. I dont go out my way to actively seek a married man. It doesnt turn me on. I dont get a kick out of it. Yes granted i feel a little bit better seeing a married guy. Its not a must. Its a preference given my situation. No kinks for married guys. " "No kinks" Says Op who opened the thread with... "This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play" ...Its hardly a surprise that someone with such a kink (your word) would lie so overtly to the thread to shift a narrative they don't like about themselves. Of course, always helps to remember what (lies?) you have said... | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath " This right here I know first hand the pain this causes. My marriage ended because my husband cheated on me. I tried to make it work but I just couldn’t forgive him and the pain was too much. It still is. When you mess with a married man/woman you mess with their whole life. If you saw the destruction it caused you may think twice, or maybe you just don’t give a sh** It is life changing. | |||
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"We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address. In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple. She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts. Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife! Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single. However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party? Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even? Genuinely interested in your views and response on this. KJ I have been in this situ. I was seeing a guy for 3 years off here. His wife found out about me. It resulted in her turning up at my work place. And anywhere else she could to try and establish why. After a coffee and a conversation with her (she insisted)... of course i felt shit - myself and him had caused this innocent woman to question everything. Every single thing. But... and this is a big but... they're now happy. Together. Sorted their shit. Of course the innocent party finding out isnt something id ever want or make moves 2 happen. Because yes its not nice. And any venom aimed at me would be well deserved. " Thank you for your reply. Did the woman who turned up at your work place act discreet or did she out you to your work colleagues? If that happened at mine or K's workplace it would cause untold damage to our careers. One thing I know for certain is suspecting partners female or male can often check thier spouses mobile. It doesn't take a genius to find and get into thier fab account and find all the info regarding who exactly thier partners cheated with. When you go to clubs often and chat with other swingers its amazing how many stay clear from married men / women on fab due to the partner finding out and they ended up been the target of the damaged parties hurt. It's not a one off rare situation, one thing about cheaters is most eventually get caught. If you continue to knowingly meet cheaters then the law of averages says you'll end up on the receiving end of drama. How bad / damaging the drama is well that's a crap shoot. When your in an open, honest relationship or are genuinely single I can't fathom why you'd want any part of meeting cheaters. Unless of course the risk, danger element turns you on? KJ | |||
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"Also just to clarify... and this may stop my inbox being bombarded with women saying I'm a home wrecking heathen whore. I dont go out my way to actively seek a married man. It doesnt turn me on. I dont get a kick out of it. Yes granted i feel a little bit better seeing a married guy. Its not a must. Its a preference given my situation. No kinks for married guys. "No kinks" Says Op who opened the thread with... "This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play" ...Its hardly a surprise that someone with such a kink (your word) would lie so overtly to the thread to shift a narrative they don't like about themselves. Of course, always helps to remember what (lies?) you have said... " My bad in the use of kink in my original post. Preference should have been used. It doesnt turn me on knowing im a cheating heathen whore. Lol. But it is a preference. | |||
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"Also just to clarify... and this may stop my inbox being bombarded with women saying I'm a home wrecking heathen whore. I dont go out my way to actively seek a married man. It doesnt turn me on. I dont get a kick out of it. Yes granted i feel a little bit better seeing a married guy. Its not a must. Its a preference given my situation. No kinks for married guys. "No kinks" Says Op who opened the thread with... "This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play" ...Its hardly a surprise that someone with such a kink (your word) would lie so overtly to the thread to shift a narrative they don't like about themselves. Of course, always helps to remember what (lies?) you have said... " Also... no desire to shift a thread narrative about me. I just think the im not single ... neither am i... fits my narrative well. | |||
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"You will never truly know if a person is married or not on this site or any other swinger's site. So why does it frigging matter?" You make a very good point. You don’t 100% know. But they are many tell tale red flags that you can typically pick up on that give them away. However for many, it’s much more to do with their own feelings. I’m a wife and I’m here with my husbands 100% approval and encouragement. When I consider knowingly meeting a married man all I can think is how I would feel if it was the other way round and the devastation it would cause if my husband was here behind my back. I’m not judging others for their choices and situation, I’m just putting my own feelings first in the decisions I make about how I play. | |||
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"Other than a wedding ring mark, do we just take their word for it. There's plenty of guys out there that are married who don't wear a ring for whatever reason. Do you insist on going to their home, stalking them. Just how far do you go tocheck their not married Also a guy could be in civil partnership. This also wouldn't show ring mark Many guys say they not married when they are Agree I wouldn't want to be a home wrecker, but ultimately its his choice to cheat" For me there is a difference between knowingly doing it and being deceived by the guy. Ultimately you have to take someone’s word at face value. | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play " Is the wedding ring a prerequisite? I don't have one despite being married. | |||
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"Other than a wedding ring mark, do we just take their word for it. There's plenty of guys out there that are married who don't wear a ring for whatever reason. Do you insist on going to their home, stalking them. Just how far do you go tocheck their not married Also a guy could be in civil partnership. This also wouldn't show ring mark Many guys say they not married when they are Agree I wouldn't want to be a home wrecker, but ultimately its his choice to cheat For me there is a difference between knowingly doing it and being deceived by the guy. Ultimately you have to take someone’s word at face value." So on that basis. As most married guys who are cheating will likely say what they think you want to hear. Then why ask them.. As we assume they are | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath Maybe i'm generalizing here but meeting the "love of your life" or "ying to your yang" on a swinger's site rings alarm bells for me from the off. If i had to bet on it working out i'd say probably not. It's a swinger's site, not a dating site and the two are worlds apart. In your profile you come across as someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly with a "lifetime" of experience. Obviously not much experience of being cheated on. There are plenty of people who might have an issue with you referring to people as "freaks", "wierdos" and "cunts"? but to you that's normal. You think (live) like that, expect to, and have the right to, because it's your life and that's how you want to live it. I get the causing damage to a relationship bit but there are plenty of people in relationships who want more than that relationship provides, or something different, for so many reasons and in so many ways that trying to brand them all as "cheaters" is Like saying taking drugs is "bad". Sure, unless it's Asperin, Penicillin, Antibiotics, etc. Perhaps some cheaters love their partners and rather than expect to impose their "freaky" desires on their partner, they give their partner room to breathe, maybe even respect, by getting their "freaky" needs met elsewhere? Who knows, the only thing i do know is that life, love, relationships, they are complicated as fuck. Someone who says "no, you cheated" without knowing the backstory is probably someone who has their own skeletons, dark thoughts or freaky ways but they are so busy staring down the microscope at others to look into the mirror at themselves. " Right then where do you want me to start? I found myself here after an 11 year relationship, which was pretty turbulent to say the least. The punches although physically painful, well, they did far less damage than the messing with my head. When you're lied to you end up not knowing what's what. You begin to question your own judgement, you begin wondering if you're actually getting early onset dementia etc coz you swear they said one thing, but they're calling you crazy or forgetful or whatever excuse they can come up with to throw you off the trail. And believe me, a lot of people sense their partner is cheating - why else would they check their phone/follow them etc. All these people who have been caught out over the years, their partners didn't happen to stumble upon them shagging someone else in the middle of the street. Something made them go looking. Anyway, what that did to me was leave me with PTSD. Yep, that's how serious the consequences and damage can be. Nice. So please tell me where I don't have much experience of being cheated on. I fucking dare ya. You're absolutely right, this is a swinging site. Do you wanna go tell all the couples who've met through here, many married that they did it wrong and their relationship must be a sham coz they're 2 worlds apart? I didn't enter into it with the idea of meeting a partner. Fuck that. I'd swore I'd never let another human close enough to hurt me, but, people click, and we did. We were together almost 2 years, had a couples profile, had been to organised socials together and met plenty of forum folk. He worked away for his job, I had been to sites he worked at if they were reasonably local. I'd met his colleagues, some had been to my house for dinner. He would video call me every night after work for sometimes hours a night. When he was at home I tended to give him space and not expect loads of communication because as far as I was concerned that was daddy/daughter time. My own dad worked unsociable hours so, being a half decent human I recalled how it felt for me as a child missing my dad and being so excited when he was home that I did not wanna encroach on that precious time they had. Lockdown happened. That's when I discovered.... dun dun dunnnnnnnnn that he wasn't separated at all (like he had assured me for almost 2 years, I'd have never met him if I believed for 1 second he was doing the dirty) and I wasn't his girlfriend I was his mistress. No fucking hiding then was there. Having been through absolute hell including a full on breakdown which left me off work for 9 months, I knew the damage all the lies, sneaking, etc caused by your partner cheating on you, and did not under any circumstances want to play any part in doing that to someone else. I hated myself so badly for giving him the opportunity to cheat on his wife and potentially put her in the same hell I had been in years before. Any person with an ounce of empathy and compassion would feel the same. | |||
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"Other than a wedding ring mark, do we just take their word for it. There's plenty of guys out there that are married who don't wear a ring for whatever reason. Do you insist on going to their home, stalking them. Just how far do you go tocheck their not married Also a guy could be in civil partnership. This also wouldn't show ring mark Many guys say they not married when they are Agree I wouldn't want to be a home wrecker, but ultimately its his choice to cheat For me there is a difference between knowingly doing it and being deceived by the guy. Ultimately you have to take someone’s word at face value. So on that basis. As most married guys who are cheating will likely say what they think you want to hear. Then why ask them.. As we assume they are " I never said I did ask them - in my experience many men are honest about their situation (as they should be) and as I’ve explained previously I say a polite no thank you because it’s not for me and I wouldn’t knowingly meet a man when I know he’s married and his partner isn’t aware. I’m not here to judge them, they can make their own choices in life... | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath Maybe i'm generalizing here but meeting the "love of your life" or "ying to your yang" on a swinger's site rings alarm bells for me from the off. If i had to bet on it working out i'd say probably not. It's a swinger's site, not a dating site and the two are worlds apart. In your profile you come across as someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly with a "lifetime" of experience. Obviously not much experience of being cheated on. There are plenty of people who might have an issue with you referring to people as "freaks", "wierdos" and "cunts"? but to you that's normal. You think (live) like that, expect to, and have the right to, because it's your life and that's how you want to live it. I get the causing damage to a relationship bit but there are plenty of people in relationships who want more than that relationship provides, or something different, for so many reasons and in so many ways that trying to brand them all as "cheaters" is Like saying taking drugs is "bad". Sure, unless it's Asperin, Penicillin, Antibiotics, etc. Perhaps some cheaters love their partners and rather than expect to impose their "freaky" desires on their partner, they give their partner room to breathe, maybe even respect, by getting their "freaky" needs met elsewhere? Who knows, the only thing i do know is that life, love, relationships, they are complicated as fuck. Someone who says "no, you cheated" without knowing the backstory is probably someone who has their own skeletons, dark thoughts or freaky ways but they are so busy staring down the microscope at others to look into the mirror at themselves. Right then where do you want me to start? I found myself here after an 11 year relationship, which was pretty turbulent to say the least. The punches although physically painful, well, they did far less damage than the messing with my head. When you're lied to you end up not knowing what's what. You begin to question your own judgement, you begin wondering if you're actually getting early onset dementia etc coz you swear they said one thing, but they're calling you crazy or forgetful or whatever excuse they can come up with to throw you off the trail. And believe me, a lot of people sense their partner is cheating - why else would they check their phone/follow them etc. All these people who have been caught out over the years, their partners didn't happen to stumble upon them shagging someone else in the middle of the street. Something made them go looking. Anyway, what that did to me was leave me with PTSD. Yep, that's how serious the consequences and damage can be. Nice. So please tell me where I don't have much experience of being cheated on. I fucking dare ya. You're absolutely right, this is a swinging site. Do you wanna go tell all the couples who've met through here, many married that they did it wrong and their relationship must be a sham coz they're 2 worlds apart? I didn't enter into it with the idea of meeting a partner. Fuck that. I'd swore I'd never let another human close enough to hurt me, but, people click, and we did. We were together almost 2 years, had a couples profile, had been to organised socials together and met plenty of forum folk. He worked away for his job, I had been to sites he worked at if they were reasonably local. I'd met his colleagues, some had been to my house for dinner. He would video call me every night after work for sometimes hours a night. When he was at home I tended to give him space and not expect loads of communication because as far as I was concerned that was daddy/daughter time. My own dad worked unsociable hours so, being a half decent human I recalled how it felt for me as a child missing my dad and being so excited when he was home that I did not wanna encroach on that precious time they had. Lockdown happened. That's when I discovered.... dun dun dunnnnnnnnn that he wasn't separated at all (like he had assured me for almost 2 years, I'd have never met him if I believed for 1 second he was doing the dirty) and I wasn't his girlfriend I was his mistress. No fucking hiding then was there. Having been through absolute hell including a full on breakdown which left me off work for 9 months, I knew the damage all the lies, sneaking, etc caused by your partner cheating on you, and did not under any circumstances want to play any part in doing that to someone else. I hated myself so badly for giving him the opportunity to cheat on his wife and potentially put her in the same hell I had been in years before. Any person with an ounce of empathy and compassion would feel the same." Your story is EXACTLY why I don’t knowingly meet anyone who is playing without their partners permission. I can only begin to imagine the devastating effect it would have on me if my husband did it to me, and I would never want to purposefully put another woman through that. | |||
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" Right then where do you want me to start... " It sounds like you've had some tough times. My advice is don't take advice or seek answers on here. It's a site where people want to fuck you, not help you. The signs were there with this guy, perhaps you craved attention and love that much that you didn't want to see them. I am not at war with you. I do actually care about people. It's easy to darw a lone between, love, sex, etc for me and as such i would just say, don't stop trusting people because of what's happened. Just focus a bit more on how to trust rather than if you should trust. Listen to friends and family if they have views on your future partners. Don't be blinded, go into relationships with your eyes wide open. The love of your life might have a thing for shoving pineapples up his arse while whistling the national anthem. If it bothers you, move on, if not, accept it as part of who they are. ******** I AM NOT HITTING ON YOU BY ASKING THIS but do you have times where you feel really down and need someone to talk to about not just this guy but the previous relationship? REPLY IN PRIVATE IF YOU LIKE/NEED. ******** | |||
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" Right then where do you want me to start... It sounds like you've had some tough times. My advice is don't take advice or seek answers on here. It's a site where people want to fuck you, not help you. The signs were there with this guy, perhaps you craved attention and love that much that you didn't want to see them. I am not at war with you. I do actually care about people. It's easy to darw a lone between, love, sex, etc for me and as such i would just say, don't stop trusting people because of what's happened. Just focus a bit more on how to trust rather than if you should trust. Listen to friends and family if they have views on your future partners. Don't be blinded, go into relationships with your eyes wide open. The love of your life might have a thing for shoving pineapples up his arse while whistling the national anthem. If it bothers you, move on, if not, accept it as part of who they are. ******** I AM NOT HITTING ON YOU BY ASKING THIS but do you have times where you feel really down and need someone to talk to about not just this guy but the previous relationship? REPLY IN PRIVATE IF YOU LIKE/NEED. ********" There will be no more relationships. I'm done. I find beauty in nature and friendships now. Nobody will get over my walls. Down? I'd never take my own life but by God I can't wait for it to be over. But hey, it's just a bit of fun right? | |||
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" Right then where do you want me to start... It sounds like you've had some tough times. My advice is don't take advice or seek answers on here. It's a site where people want to fuck you, not help you. The signs were there with this guy, perhaps you craved attention and love that much that you didn't want to see them. I am not at war with you. I do actually care about people. It's easy to darw a lone between, love, sex, etc for me and as such i would just say, don't stop trusting people because of what's happened. Just focus a bit more on how to trust rather than if you should trust. Listen to friends and family if they have views on your future partners. Don't be blinded, go into relationships with your eyes wide open. The love of your life might have a thing for shoving pineapples up his arse while whistling the national anthem. If it bothers you, move on, if not, accept it as part of who they are. ******** I AM NOT HITTING ON YOU BY ASKING THIS but do you have times where you feel really down and need someone to talk to about not just this guy but the previous relationship? REPLY IN PRIVATE IF YOU LIKE/NEED. ********" You're right, the signs were there. But you see, having been cheated on in the past, I thought I was being extra sensitive and possibly looking for things that weren't there. Everything I questioned had an answer for, and an answer that did, if true, make sense. I'm not looking for advice or answers believe me. All I wanna do is save someone else from going through what I did. At least then my pain has some purpose other than the lesson of "I must be worthless, or deserve it" | |||
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"Although some see it as cheating some married men are on here for reasons that some won’t understand unless they have been in that situation." Ah yes that old chestnut.... | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath Same. I wouldn’t wish the pain on Adolf Hitler. People are always going to cheat, but I can't be in any way responsible for hurting another woman and her family. But, as ever, each to their own. If fiddling about with someone else's partner makes you feel special, you do you. " Some women (I am not referring to anyone on this thread or indeed on Fab, I’m talking from personal experience) take great pleasure in seeing the pain and suffering on the wife. My husband’s ex-affair partner was like that. I never thought there could be people that vile... it turns out, there are. | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath Same. I wouldn’t wish the pain on Adolf Hitler. People are always going to cheat, but I can't be in any way responsible for hurting another woman and her family. But, as ever, each to their own. If fiddling about with someone else's partner makes you feel special, you do you. Some women (I am not referring to anyone on this thread or indeed on Fab, I’m talking from personal experience) take great pleasure in seeing the pain and suffering on the wife. My husband’s ex-affair partner was like that. I never thought there could be people that vile... it turns out, there are. " A power trip and sense of self importance. | |||
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"Although some see it as cheating some married men are on here for reasons that some won’t understand unless they have been in that situation." Yep we never understand do we? Yet married people take vows and promise to be faithful but they can’t be. Get out of the marriage then and let the spouse find a decent person. | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath Same. I wouldn’t wish the pain on Adolf Hitler. People are always going to cheat, but I can't be in any way responsible for hurting another woman and her family. But, as ever, each to their own. If fiddling about with someone else's partner makes you feel special, you do you. Some women (I am not referring to anyone on this thread or indeed on Fab, I’m talking from personal experience) take great pleasure in seeing the pain and suffering on the wife. My husband’s ex-affair partner was like that. I never thought there could be people that vile... it turns out, there are. A power trip and sense of self importance. " I completely agree with this. It gives them a feeling of superiority to play with people and destroy their relationships. | |||
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"Although some see it as cheating some married men are on here for reasons that some won’t understand unless they have been in that situation. Not just men. Women also. Its such a stereotype that men cheat because of sexless lives at home. Not always the case " Well said. X | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. " What utter rubbish.. So typical of people nowadays.. Nothing is their fault.. Take responsibility for yourself and your lives.. If sex is that important to you, then be a man and leave.. Where are morals these days | |||
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"All of this , 100% agree it’s short sighted ness , and actively seeking somebody to cheat with makes it a hundred times worse , pre meditated not spontaneous. I could have possibly got over a one night spontaneous “mistake” but actively seeking to cheat and destroy the person you supposedly once loved, can not really be justified by any excuse " Completely agree, no excuse will ever cover it | |||
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" There will be no more relationships. I'm done. I find beauty in nature and friendships now. Nobody will get over my walls. Down? I'd never take my own life but by God I can't wait for it to be over. " You don't have to be suicidal to get a benefit from talking things through. Sometimes it just helps to get things in perspective and to get an unbiased, non judgemental view. Life isn't "pretty woman" (Richard Gere turning up in a limo waving a brolly) BUT it can happen, probably when you're not looking for it and when you least expect it. Don't live the rest of your life limited, in fear of what might go wrong because that's not your best life. Your best life would be you living your way (which might be how you are living now) but talk of building walls and not letting anyone in isn't your way, that's influenced by and adapting to the affects of what's happened. It sounds easy to say but these things that have happened all have one thing in common... they are in the past. The future is whatever you want to make it. If you enjoy how you are living that's your right but if there's anything you wish was different go for it. Who knows Maybe you'll meet your prince charming one day? I know there is the odd exception to any rule but but my only advice, given where we are chatting, is "in a swamp you'll likely only ever kiss frogs" | |||
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" There will be no more relationships. I'm done. I find beauty in nature and friendships now. Nobody will get over my walls. Down? I'd never take my own life but by God I can't wait for it to be over. You don't have to be suicidal to get a benefit from talking things through. Sometimes it just helps to get things in perspective and to get an unbiased, non judgemental view. Life isn't "pretty woman" (Richard Gere turning up in a limo waving a brolly) BUT it can happen, probably when you're not looking for it and when you least expect it. Don't live the rest of your life limited, in fear of what might go wrong because that's not your best life. Your best life would be you living your way (which might be how you are living now) but talk of building walls and not letting anyone in isn't your way, that's influenced by and adapting to the affects of what's happened. It sounds easy to say but these things that have happened all have one thing in common... they are in the past. The future is whatever you want to make it. If you enjoy how you are living that's your right but if there's anything you wish was different go for it. Who knows Maybe you'll meet your prince charming one day? I know there is the odd exception to any rule but but my only advice, given where we are chatting, is "in a swamp you'll likely only ever kiss frogs"" I'll tell you something else they all have in common. Me. I can't be that fucking unlucky so I must be part of the problem. As I say, I'm not looking to meet from here. I'm just here for the forums and existing platonic friendships. When I'm old I may consider a companion but while there's a chance I'm gonna get lied to and taken for a mug, not happening. It wouldn't be fair on me to put myself through the worry of whether I'm being spun a line, it wouldn't be fair on them to have me suspicious or not fully invested "just in case" Who would want to be involved with someone who's ears pricked up every time their phone pinged, or looked for evidence on social media that things may not be as they seem? That's totally unfair, but that's how it would be. I'm fucked. I no longer trust myself to trust my gut, to trust my own decision making. I don't want any of that, all I want is inner peace. | |||
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"Cheating is scummy and can really hurt folk. If the person your cheating with has a violent partner you could end up getting a smack or worse. If you have permision thats different but to activly do it without is just wrong. All this crap about if your happy but no sex yada yada but i cant leave, yes you can. If someone doesnt want sex its hard but if you really cant be with someone and be without it then just leave if you have talked about it and they wont budge or decide whats more important sex or your life. Dont say you cant live without it because as someone who has been alone 5 years i have had hardly any sex and yes its shit but you have to get on with it." Just leave...its not that simple mate,you have to have lots of money to think like that. The family you love will suffer if you leave,and when on your own...you're going to struggle if you have a few children because the child support payments will be through the roof. | |||
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"We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address. In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple. She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts. Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife! Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single. However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party? Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even? Genuinely interested in your views and response on this. KJ" That's the guys fault for being ill disciplined isnt it,everytime someone logs out,delete history and everything,and definitely dont leave other peoples information lying around....leave no trail. I do all of the above and I'm not even with anyone. | |||
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"And OP. Women scorned? I think people who've been violated, had their trust broken, been betrayed and face a future where trust is something that should be natural, but now is something so precious you protect it with everything you have isn't something to wink, laugh at or make light of. You're really are quite nasty aren't you? Is it a power thing for you? Knowing you've got someone's world on the end of some puppet strings? That one word from you could bring anothers life crashing down? No. Not a power trip at all. Never ever the intention to have anothers life come crashing down. Mine included. Its a case of... things arent great at home after several convos so in turn doing what makes me happy and keeps my home life ruffle free. My preference is someone in a similar situation. I dont purposely go out and seek a married man in the hopes to have his world come crashing down by a pull of a puppet string. Far from it. Do i get a little bit closer to a taken guy... of course i do. Security in knowing he isnt going 2 fall for me and ask me 2 leave. Its knowing that... i have my home life - lacking something or another - and having someone in a similar situation be able to take the burden away. Be it a 5 min conversation or attention from someone you haven't spent years trying to bring back the spark. I get people are in a position to be hurt. Trust me when i say ive been there. Doest make it right. Or a im going 2 ruin someones life because of previous situations ive been in. Its simply. A preference. " Then why take piss out of our hurts in your status? Fucking cruel man. Couples counselling? You know that the whole time getting your feathers ruffled elsewhere and coming back satisfied, well, if the partners haven't twigged their being screwed over, what's it telling them? Everything's fine. That's the pissing vibe, that's the impression, that's the garden path they're being walked down, so of course things will never get any better because the spouse thinks you're happy (other cheating partners applicable, not picking on you personally) What are you so afraid of? Why can't you be honest with your partner? You're kidding yourself if you think taken blokes don't fall for others btw. | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play " How sad, that you would enjoy destroying a family just for your kink! | |||
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"Statistically 20% of men cheat, for women it’s 13%. It goes on, always will go on, for whatever reason and for every 5 ladies that are going “ oh that’s terrible, shocking” blah blah then one of yer hubbies is getting it somewhere else and maybe with one of the 1 in 7 ladies that’s likes it on the side too. Nobody knows what it’s like in an individual’s relationship, it’s not black and white. Like most things it’s easy to judge. " So true. Let's be honest here,most women,like men when they've been on girls/lads nights away and hols abroad etc.... have cheated. I know lots of men who do it,and you always hear about someone's wife when away...its the real world whether we like it or not. And if you don't hear about what went on,its because people keep it to themselves. In the past I have been with many taken women,its more common than you think. | |||
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"And OP. Women scorned? I think people who've been violated, had their trust broken, been betrayed and face a future where trust is something that should be natural, but now is something so precious you protect it with everything you have isn't something to wink, laugh at or make light of. You're really are quite nasty aren't you? Is it a power thing for you? Knowing you've got someone's world on the end of some puppet strings? That one word from you could bring anothers life crashing down? No. Not a power trip at all. Never ever the intention to have anothers life come crashing down. Mine included. Its a case of... things arent great at home after several convos so in turn doing what makes me happy and keeps my home life ruffle free. My preference is someone in a similar situation. I dont purposely go out and seek a married man in the hopes to have his world come crashing down by a pull of a puppet string. Far from it. Do i get a little bit closer to a taken guy... of course i do. Security in knowing he isnt going 2 fall for me and ask me 2 leave. Its knowing that... i have my home life - lacking something or another - and having someone in a similar situation be able to take the burden away. Be it a 5 min conversation or attention from someone you haven't spent years trying to bring back the spark. I get people are in a position to be hurt. Trust me when i say ive been there. Doest make it right. Or a im going 2 ruin someones life because of previous situations ive been in. Its simply. A preference. " Don’t you see that makes it worse , you’ve been there !! You’d understand how it affects the innocent party. As for not getting emotionally attached how can you control that or other people’s feelings especially if it’s not one offs but regular meetings and chats for escapism and emotional support . | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. What utter rubbish.. So typical of people nowadays.. Nothing is their fault.. Take responsibility for yourself and your lives.. If sex is that important to you, then be a man and leave.. Where are morals these days " I would say being a man is supporting your family,making sure the bills are paid,roof over children's head etc....leaving just so you can live a single life and get regular sex is not being a man...more selfish I'd say. | |||
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" from the home wrecking scum of the earth heathen. " I think you should put that on your LinkedIn!! | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. What utter rubbish.. So typical of people nowadays.. Nothing is their fault.. Take responsibility for yourself and your lives.. If sex is that important to you, then be a man and leave.. Where are morals these days I would say being a man is supporting your family,making sure the bills are paid,roof over children's head etc....leaving just so you can live a single life and get regular sex is not being a man...more selfish I'd say." Selfish is not disclosing your sexual promiscuity with your partner. After all surely she should have the opportunity to have fun with others as well? Or maybe the reason these women are no longer interested in sex with their partners / husbands is because they are getting it better elsewhere! | |||
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"This thread is seriously ugly! I was always under the impression that the basis of the swinging culture was acceptance and the mantra of "live and let live". Every day on these forums i see some disturbing tastes and kinks......there is a whole thread that gathered pace today of men admitting to sniffing their adult step daughters pants!!!! Ffs. So cheaters will cheat, "anti-cheaters" will continue to stand against it, and those lost somewhere in the middle will continue to try and do their best to get by. Doesent give anyone the right to get on their high horses, to ostracise people because someone's life choices don't fit with theirs, nor does it give anyone a right to judge others. Its impossible to walk a mile in someone else's shoes then you may have grounds to pass comment. Thats the problem with society today, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but we seem to be a society that had evolved that entitlement into ramming their opinions down the throats of others, "think preachy vegetarians!!" There are people on this thread that seriously need to seek help for their mental health, as I've read some worrying posts in the last few minutes. Anyone that wants to fill my inbox with bile, ifnyour easily offended, I wouldn't bother. Meanwhile Barry next door is happily trying to snort his stepdaughters thong up his nostril. Peace!" Swinging to me is _ased on honesty, trust and respect. Engaging in activities that won't cause harm. If sharing my personal experience opens one person's eyes to the potential fallout I shall continue to do so. | |||
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" from the home wrecking scum of the earth heathen. I think you should put that on your LinkedIn!!" Updating bio as we speak. Might add in loves a good throat grip whilst im at it. Oh wait. I might offend someone | |||
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"Coming to this thread late but: I imagine we've all done things we're not proud of at one time or another in our lives. The difference is we don't boast about it. " Exactly. We learn and grow. | |||
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" from the home wrecking scum of the earth heathen. I think you should put that on your LinkedIn!! Updating bio as we speak. Might add in loves a good throat grip whilst im at it. Oh wait. I might offend someone " Way too controversial!! | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. What utter rubbish.. So typical of people nowadays.. Nothing is their fault.. Take responsibility for yourself and your lives.. If sex is that important to you, then be a man and leave.. Where are morals these days I would say being a man is supporting your family,making sure the bills are paid,roof over children's head etc....leaving just so you can live a single life and get regular sex is not being a man...more selfish I'd say. Selfish is not disclosing your sexual promiscuity with your partner. After all surely she should have the opportunity to have fun with others as well? Or maybe the reason these women are no longer interested in sex with their partners / husbands is because they are getting it better elsewhere!" Maybe,then it balances itself out then haha. | |||
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"Coming to this thread late but: I imagine we've all done things we're not proud of at one time or another in our lives. The difference is we don't boast about it. I honestly believe that there is very few people in the world that havnt done this at some point in their lives. We are human. " | |||
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"No boasting to me had. Not saying r eh fucked jimmy yesterday while his wife was cooking the easter scran am i? Was simply a topic of conversation on a swinging forum... stating a preference. Granted opinions differ. No boasting. Just... a discussion" Your comment re his wedding ring up your foof came across as bragging. Like I say, I'm no angel either but I am discreet | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. " ----- And myself and others respect its your right. T | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath We did read your profile and whole heartedly agree with what you said above. Seems some try and justify the reason why their cheating is justified but that still means they’re are thinking about themselves and not the person they’re cheating on. " ---- Thats fine and I appreciate your fews, but I can see and fully understand the other side in some rare cases. T. | |||
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"Some things aren't always black and white though,they can be gray areas. Some men or women can be called cheats,scum etc... But what if the individual is married in a sexless relationship,where even when you talk about it with the partner, there's still no avail. Yes you'll get people who will say "just leave"...but that's as easy as said as done. What if the individual is the bread winner and leaving would mean his or her children being uprooted from they homes because the remaining parent cant keep afloat financially. So an individual isn't get the needs required,so they cheat,but not for love,just to satisfy the sexual needs,and if the individual did not have children to think about,he or she would have left a long time ago...like I say,some things arent always black and white. Believe me...the amount of people I know in this situation is more common than not,and includes both sexes. Doing one bad thing doesn't define you as a bad person. So so true. Sometimes its needed to keep the other person sane. " ----- Shame but that's so true | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. Im not sure if girl code is right term to reference. Of course you have moments of guilt. Any human would. But im not asking them 2 run off in the sunset with me. Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol. " ----- Love this Well said.. Yes please | |||
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"If you knowingly do something that will undoubtedly and deeply hurt your partner and children, then I personally would say it's wrong. People can make all the excuses they want, but there's nothing good about cheating, or the person doing it! But what if. Youve had the convo with partner about being unhappy. Attempted to sort several times over. And... its just not there anymore. You love them and your home life dearly. And in order to stick around you find that desire somewhere else? " ------ Well said and this is what I said in my earlier post. T. | |||
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"My partner and I Are fully aware of who we are with, sexual health is important and cheating puts an unknown risk on your partner... You take away their choice by cheating. Honesty all the way. " ----- Risk is zero if you are careful and sencible impo. T. | |||
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"Cheating is scummy and can really hurt folk. If the person your cheating with has a violent partner you could end up getting a smack or worse. If you have permision thats different but to activly do it without is just wrong. All this crap about if your happy but no sex yada yada but i cant leave, yes you can. If someone doesnt want sex its hard but if you really cant be with someone and be without it then just leave if you have talked about it and they wont budge or decide whats more important sex or your life. Dont say you cant live without it because as someone who has been alone 5 years i have had hardly any sex and yes its shit but you have to get on with it." ----- You sound like a bitten person. But all are entirely entitled to there own opinions. T | |||
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"Coming to this thread late but: I imagine we've all done things we're not proud of at one time or another in our lives. The difference is we don't boast about it. ----- Good point I honestly believe that there is very few people in the world that havnt done this at some point in their lives. We are human. " | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. Im not sure if girl code is right term to reference. Of course you have moments of guilt. Any human would. But im not asking them 2 run off in the sunset with me. Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol. ----- Love this Well said.. Yes please " Yet I find this phrase "Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol" is one of the most hurtful things I've ever read on many many levels. | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. Im not sure if girl code is right term to reference. Of course you have moments of guilt. Any human would. But im not asking them 2 run off in the sunset with me. Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol. ----- Love this Well said.. Yes please Yet I find this phrase "Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol" is one of the most hurtful things I've ever read on many many levels. " Absolutely oozes disrespect, and the disregarding fact that "wifey" is a human being not a fucking cabbage patch doll. Laughing at someone else's expense on such a grand scale. Sickening | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. Im not sure if girl code is right term to reference. Of course you have moments of guilt. Any human would. But im not asking them 2 run off in the sunset with me. Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol. ----- Love this Well said.. Yes please Yet I find this phrase "Just fuck me like they used 2 fuck wifey lol" is one of the most hurtful things I've ever read on many many levels. Absolutely oozes disrespect, and the disregarding fact that "wifey" is a human being not a fucking cabbage patch doll. Laughing at someone else's expense on such a grand scale. Sickening " On a thread we're people are opening up to the hurt and lasting impact of it too. May as well be laughing at each and every one of us who've been through it and telling us we're worthless | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. " Thank you. 2 and a half years ago I found out my partner, best friend, father to my kids, had been cheating while I was pregnant. I can honestly say I don't think I will ever get over it. It has affected me deeply in so many ways. I am not the same person I was and that is sad because I was so full of joy until he ruined my life | |||
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"Some people do some don't, some like to be pegged not for me its there choice, why get so heated, social media has a lot to answer for. " You can't compare getting pegged to being cheated on though? And how does social media have anything to do with cheating on your partner? I'm not going to pretend I'm above getting involved with a man who has a partner. But I think the sick little game some people make out of it is so messed up. I don't know how you don't feel any guilt. I've heard of women who have little interest in the man and get off on breaking a family up. So let's take a moment and admit we are all a piece of shit! | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath " I just read your profile and it would actually represent me, almost word for word; especially your explanation of trust and how it never quite mends once broken. I would never knowingly meet/ engage with an attached man for those reasons. Others may feel different... | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath " Glad I can speed read might be a long profile but it is actually very witty as well as being very sincere. Love your kind of weirdo too.. Pics lovely, videos even better love the newest one.. Not because of content but the true beauty that lies behind it... Says a lot about you the person... Have fun regain faith in people.. Take care stay safe . | |||
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"I don't. I invite you to read my profile (I know it's long) and you'll see why married men aren't for me, and why I can't understand how people can do it, knowing they could change someone's future in a way that could damage them til they take their last breath From your profile: “ Be proud to be a good human, not proud you got away with something that could hurt someones soul.“ Exactly why I won’t meet cheaters. " | |||
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"This is such a kink for me. I prefer taken men over single. Does anyone else have this preference. I cant help but A) feel like its a mutual respect thing with the guy (not being single myself) And B) how far can we get the wedding ring in is such a fun game 2 play " not many play with married guys I find | |||
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"Been hurt by a married man. Dont play with taken men. Girl code in full effect. I will not play with another woman's man. Thank you. 2 and a half years ago I found out my partner, best friend, father to my kids, had been cheating while I was pregnant. I can honestly say I don't think I will ever get over it. It has affected me deeply in so many ways. I am not the same person I was and that is sad because I was so full of joy until he ruined my life " Pretty much the same scenario only our baby was a matter of a few weeks old and the woman was a very good friend of mine or so I thought anyway! It's a tough thing to deal with and has most certainly changed my outlook on relationships! In my younger days when I was 19 and stupid I was one of those women and did have an affair with a married man but as I got older and most definitely after my experience I would never step on anyone's toes. Iv felt that pain of betrayal and it hurts! | |||
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"Sat here wondering what made the people who you were so devoted to cheat in the first place " Apparently it's kinky. And fun. And a thrill. And their own partners just never have sex with them. And don't understand them like a complete stranger does.... | |||
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