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By *unCpl1234 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Odiham

See I always understood it to mean that you belonged to one of the classic professions like doctor, lawyer, accountant, engineer. Something that requires specialised training and certification.

But someone told me it's also a way for people to say they're "middle class" without actually saying it?

I'm genuinely puzzled here and not trying to be snarky, I'm not English myself so sometimes I don't fully understand your, uh, class stuff and social ways.

Anyway, nice to meet you all.

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By *ocksareoffMan
over a year ago

Out n About

I was under the impression that professional ment you were getting paid for the job that you were carrying out. Not necessarily that you were any good at it or any particular type of job.

But then again my English is pretty poor.

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By *rder66Man
over a year ago

Tatooine

Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Language changes and evolves over time and words frequently have very different meanings than they once did.

"Professional footballers" is a phrase that used to confuse the hell out of me as did "professional athletes" but I know it's used to differentiate between amateurs who do it for love (check the root of that word) and those who are paid or do it " professionally ". The original meaning has long since changed to mean someone who gets paid for what they do or to describe someone's attitude to their work. All in my opinion

The use of the word professional on fab profiles provokes quite unwarranted rage too. I struggle to understand why.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

It’s a snobby way of saying ‘I’m classy and i work’ .....

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain."

Haha Freudian slip? Pain and paid lol .....

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By *wingsnroundabouts82Couple
over a year ago

Fucksville

In here I understand it as someone in a job where it wouldn't be appreciated if they found out you were swingers and therefore discretion and trust is key x

In the real world to me it means someone who is in an influential role such as Dr's, lawyers, executives etc x these are just the more we'll known examples, I would still consider a plumber a professional too x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If profiles said 'no riff-raff' it would mean the same thing

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"See I always understood it to mean that you belonged to one of the classic professions like doctor, lawyer, accountant, engineer. Something that requires specialised training and certification.

But someone told me it's also a way for people to say they're "middle class" without actually saying it?

I'm genuinely puzzled here and not trying to be snarky, I'm not English myself so sometimes I don't fully understand your, uh, class stuff and social ways.

Anyway, nice to meet you all. "

Nice to meet you too.

You will never understand British class stuff, none of us do

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By *rder66Man
over a year ago

Tatooine


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Haha Freudian slip? Pain and paid lol ..... "
That's why I teach an expressive art subject and not English. In retrospect, if I taught Maths, English or a Scince bassed subject I would class myself professional but considering the subject I do teach, I the professional educators poor cousin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain."

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone with a 9-5 job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I use to think I was working class.

Then I went to Scotland and realized I was actually upper class

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

The term professional implies that the holder has expertise in a particular area, possesses a skillset and is competent.

Regrettably, from bitter an costly experience, professionals frequently do not behave in an honest, ethical or courteous manner; many exhibit arrogance, patronising and condescending attitudes and their professional skills are often so wafer thin than when questioned about their professional opinion they become defensive.

Self-proclaimed professionals, and also those with accredited qualifications should be treated with scepticism.

The internet is a fantastic resource that permits an intelligent amateur to acquire expertise, that, in the past, would have been regarded as being of a professional standard!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

Why do you feel they shouldn't?

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

Teachers are human beings and usually over the age of 18. Why on earth would you even ask that?

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

It generally means "I think my job makes me better than people who have jobs that I perceive to be more lower-class than mine."

More British snobbery, frankly.

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Great thread. No comment, just reading what's said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It generally means "I think my job makes me better than people who have jobs that I perceive to be more lower-class than mine."

More British snobbery, frankly."

Or inverse snobbery by those who object to the term

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By *rder66Man
over a year ago

Tatooine


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

Why shouldn't I?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On fab it’s used as a cover up for men that cheat so they don’t have to have any pictures up as they are a ‘professional’.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

I can’t understand the thought process behind that questions.

Are there any other professions that shouldn’t be on here ?

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By *carletnsparksMan
over a year ago

halifax


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious.

Why do you feel they shouldn't?

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My thoughts exactly, why shouldn't he be here?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious.

Why shouldn't I?

"

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Personally I don't think it's a great idea to say you're a teacher but you have as much right to be here as anybody.

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By *aughtycp1Couple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

To us it means a professional work environment such as doctor lawyer or a similar job

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Someone who is a member of a professional organisation that they are affiliated to, and I expect them to behave in a professional manner.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"It generally means "I think my job makes me better than people who have jobs that I perceive to be more lower-class than mine."

More British snobbery, frankly."

They might be letting people know they are in roles with responsibility and will behave in a professional manner.

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By *carletnsparksMan
over a year ago

halifax


"On fab it’s used as a cover up for men that cheat so they don’t have to have any pictures up as they are a ‘professional’. "

Not just men, men pretending to be ladies or a couple too lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On fab it’s used as a cover up for men that cheat so they don’t have to have any pictures up as they are a ‘professional’.

Not just men, men pretending to be ladies or a couple too lol"

Oh yes. Fully agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oooh, professional bashing, not seen one of these for a while

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Oooh, professional bashing, not seen one of these for a while"

. Neatly combined with a spot of single man bashing.

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By *urvy ClarissaWoman
over a year ago

wigan

Is there a reason why teachers shouldn’t be on here amongst people of every other profession including medical staff, police etc?

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"It generally means "I think my job makes me better than people who have jobs that I perceive to be more lower-class than mine."

More British snobbery, frankly.

Or inverse snobbery by those who object to the term"

Ah yes, the classic "NO U" counterargument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oooh, professional bashing, not seen one of these for a while

. Neatly combined with a spot of single man bashing.

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I only come here for my bashing

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Bodie and Doyle together are The Professionals.

Hope that helps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can be professional in you work/job with no qualifications at all but traditionally a professional person was a qualified member of a recognised chartered or registered institute. In the context of Fab's it means bugger all

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

Why shouldn’t they? Do you think teachers don’t, or aren’t allowed to, have sex?

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

I just take it as meaning they work and so may not be able to meet at the drop of a hat or during the day.

Certainly thats what I would mean if it were on our profile (runs off to chrck)

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Oooh, professional bashing, not seen one of these for a while

. Neatly combined with a spot of single man bashing.

I only come here for my bashing

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

I’ve always understood it to mean someone who has had to achieve a qualification in a certain field, usually a regulated field, and who has to be a member of a professional body and/or undertake regular training to keep their qualification up-to-date. Such as lawyer, doctor, teacher, accountant.

On Fab it doesn’t seem to mean very much. You can want to be discreet and avoid your employer finding out without being a professional. I’m definitely not a professional, but I wouldn’t want my employer to know what I get up to on here. If it’s not intended to mean “I need to be discreet”, then I don’t see the point of it at all. I don’t choose who to have sex with based on their job, does anyone?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

So!

Professional musicians, professional dancers, footballers, athletes, artists?

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff


"So!

Professional musicians, professional dancers, footballers, athletes, artists?"

Would surely usually be referred to the way you just have - in these examples isn’t “professional” just the modifier to explain “I’m a musician but I actually get paid to do it”?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."
so teachers aren’t allowed to be sexual beings?

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By *unCpl1234 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Odiham

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By *unCpl1234 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Odiham


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Haha Freudian slip? Pain and paid lol ..... That's why I teach an expressive art subject and not English. In retrospect, if I taught Maths, English or a Scince bassed subject I would class myself professional but considering the subject I do teach, I the professional educators poor cousin."

English isn't an expressive art? Well I am flummoxed, flabbergasted, astounded even aghast at hearing this!

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

Are teachers not allowed a sex life now? Already vilified in the press abs social media now the profession has to literally give up everything to please the public? No hate just curious

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By *unCpl1234 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Odiham


"Oooh, professional bashing, not seen one of these for a while"

Wasn't really my intention.

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By *ouise HartleyTV/TS
over a year ago

the street of failed artists Liverpool

I think it's pathetic, it's an excuse to not show a face pic. It matters not if you claim to be a "professional" or if you clean the streets, most of us would still desire and expect discretion. Your need for privacy is not on a different level to anybody else's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oooh, professional bashing, not seen one of these for a while

Wasn't really my intention. "

Maybe not but these threads always go the same way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there a reason why teachers shouldn’t be on here amongst people of every other profession including medical staff, police etc? "

None as far as I can see.

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By *rad670Man
over a year ago

South Lakes

Professional strictly speaking means to be paid for work you are trained for and competent at but it is now being used a lot to say I'm middle or upper class and although maybe not intentionally I think it can project a mightier than thou message and I'm earning lots more than minimum wage and wear a suit to work attitude. I earn well, can't remember last time I wore a suit apart from overalls, spend every day of my life grafting even some weekends, have a nice big house rural, two cars, two bikes, nothing on finance but out and out working class, down to earth and would never pretend to be anything else. I scrub up well, am well spoken and an old school gent but that doesn't put me a step up from anyone else. People are either nice or assholes, no classes are needed to portray a persona.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s when you get payed to do a trained profession to a high standard ie doctor, lawyer, welder etc for example I’m a professional carpenter but amateur gynaecologist so I can build you a table to a professional quality but in my spare time I like to look at lady parts xx

Something like that anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it not just someone who has a job?...

Possibly code for being married and partner not knowing?

Personally puts me off when people put that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I often read it as a description used to to hide what job they really do because saying I'm a professional makes them think they're more likely to pull...

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By *iscfun2012Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield

We describe ourselves as professional to give people an idea of what we are like (we are quite highly educated and are an accountant and teacher respectively). It's not our intention to show off or anything like that, just to ensure people have some idea of what we are like.

We meet all sorts of guys provided they are clean, discreet and reliable - their own status (and indeed their looks, ethnicity and religion) is otherwise irrelevant to us.

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By *ookingfun82Man
over a year ago

Enniskillen

I see a difference between profession and professional.

A profession brings to mind a job one is specifically trained and qualified for with long term prospects and generally not transferrable skills.

A professional is someone who is paid for what they do with the implication a professional job is one done well as they person does it well enough to be paid for it.

So you can be uneducated and untrained and do a professional job or be in a profession but unable to do anything which would be classed as professional.

Clear as mud?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Google

According to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), a professional job is one that requires a specific level of college education, typically a bachelor's degree or higher, for someone to perform its duties and responsibilities.

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

Like much in the English language it can have many different definitions.

But to me, if someone has it on a profile it would mean they are educated to a degree or above.

But many would say I am a professional work wise, but have no qualifications in that subject, although I do in a sister subject but not to degree level.

If someone calls themselves professional, it is the first category that I think of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok, hope this clears things up...

The actual term 'professional' means simply that someone gets paid to do something. So a Premier League footballer is a professional. In other words its not his hobby.

This can however be confused with the term 'profession' which is slightly different. Again a profession is a job and means of gainful employment but, especially in ye olde times, professions (such as doctor, teacher, barrister etc...) were distinguished from other 'trades' for one main reason: People employed as either could be sacked say for doing a 'shoddy' job - however - a profession also carried an extra ethical duty (e.g. a doctor cannot injure their patients maliciously for example) and that's why they had/have two separate vocational groups .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Professional strictly speaking means to be paid for work you are trained for and competent at but it is now being used a lot to say I'm middle or upper class and although maybe not intentionally I think it can project a mightier than thou message and I'm earning lots more than minimum wage and wear a suit to work attitude. I earn well, can't remember last time I wore a suit apart from overalls, spend every day of my life grafting even some weekends, have a nice big house rural, two cars, two bikes, nothing on finance but out and out working class, down to earth and would never pretend to be anything else. I scrub up well, am well spoken and an old school gent but that doesn't put me a step up from anyone else. People are either nice or assholes, no classes are needed to portray a persona."

Based on what you say with earnings lifestyle etc you are deffinatly not working class no matter how much you want to be. You are middle class at the least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

South Side.

As an outsider, looking in on the UK forum..

Ive never understood the UK class system. There are nuances I either don't see, or simply don't get. To me, it seems that fabbers describing themselves as professional want to meet "people like us"... Whatever that might look like to them. And also suggests they don't want to meet "people not like us". I can understand this. I'm choosy about who I meet.

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I think you need at least 8 letters after your name to be class as a professional

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I think you need at least 8 letters after your name to be classed as a professional

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By *eventysixCouple
over a year ago

glossop

Stuck up is how you explain it

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It generally means "I think my job makes me better than people who have jobs that I perceive to be more lower-class than mine."

More British snobbery, frankly.

Or inverse snobbery by those who object to the term"

Indeed the need to throw mud at others is strong. It's descriptive and not necessarily divisive.

relating to or belonging to a profession.

"young professional people"

One can be a professional plumber or a professional nurse or a professional accountant.

engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.

"a professional boxer / golfer /musician / writer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stuck up is how you explain it "

Why is it stuck up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

What?? Christ it's not like it's a Paedo pick up site!

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By *icknBrainCouple
over a year ago

Hyde

Whenever I see 'professional' on Fab I think they are escorts lol. Just makes me smile every time, I'm easy pleased tho ! Hehe

Lx

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?"

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Fabswingers should get a Royal Charter that way we are all members and can have RFS after our names and all will be professional members of the Royal Fab Swingers.

Class being no boundary to membership ... just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It generally means "I think my job makes me better than people who have jobs that I perceive to be more lower-class than mine."

More British snobbery, frankly.

Or inverse snobbery by those who object to the term"

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it? "

Who knows... But it's their profile so free to write as they choose. Much as the above poster said... I always imagine in a fab setting when a lady writes "I'm a busy professional..." I assumed it was fab speak for the oldest profession.

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By *ornyhappyCouple
over a year ago

perth


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

Phew, thank goodness I gave up my teaching career a few years ago!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?"

Because some people get upset when they are excluded from shagging a stranger they've never met - and never will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it? "

Elitism? I think that’s a strange way of looking at it. I always interpret the term as meaning you are well mannered, well behaved, well trained/educated and discreet.

I don’t see it as elite or snobbery, or even saying what you do for a living is better or worse than anyone else. It’s just a phrase to show that you’re grown up and trustworthy. It doesn’t mean others are not.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Generally it means you have a career that requires professional qualifications and membership rather than a job and typically earn more the older you become through consultancy and projects rather than rely only on employers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On here? Means pretentious. Or nothing at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious.

I can’t understand the thought process behind that questions.

Are there any other professions that shouldn’t be on here ? "

All professions. You don't want to bring your profession into disrepute, and many professional bodies would take a dim view. So don't go on Fab if you're a professional ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

Elitism? I think that’s a strange way of looking at it. I always interpret the term as meaning you are well mannered, well behaved, well trained/educated and discreet.

I don’t see it as elite or snobbery, or even saying what you do for a living is better or worse than anyone else. It’s just a phrase to show that you’re grown up and trustworthy. It doesn’t mean others are not."

Well we all know that a qualification doesn't necessarily make someone well mannered, behaved etc.!! It's just a class thing and a lot of nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've always thought of it as a career where your reputation precedes you.

For example if a doctor or lawyer was found in here their reputation and therefore their profession would be impacted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

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By *ynonvalleyboyMan
over a year ago

merthyr

Much the same as key worker

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

Who knows... But it's their profile so free to write as they choose. Much as the above poster said... I always imagine in a fab setting when a lady writes "I'm a busy professional..." I assumed it was fab speak for the oldest profession. "

Haha yeah I guess .... more filter tools if nothing else

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

Elitism? I think that’s a strange way of looking at it. I always interpret the term as meaning you are well mannered, well behaved, well trained/educated and discreet.

I don’t see it as elite or snobbery, or even saying what you do for a living is better or worse than anyone else. It’s just a phrase to show that you’re grown up and trustworthy. It doesn’t mean others are not."

Well mannered has nothing to do with your job ... I’ve had many idiots with no manners message me who claim to be a professional.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

Elitism? I think that’s a strange way of looking at it. I always interpret the term as meaning you are well mannered, well behaved, well trained/educated and discreet.

I don’t see it as elite or snobbery, or even saying what you do for a living is better or worse than anyone else. It’s just a phrase to show that you’re grown up and trustworthy. It doesn’t mean others are not.

Well we all know that a qualification doesn't necessarily make someone well mannered, behaved etc.!! It's just a class thing and a lot of nonsense."

This ..... ‘trustworthy’ lawyer, accountant, politician I think not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

Elitism? I think that’s a strange way of looking at it. I always interpret the term as meaning you are well mannered, well behaved, well trained/educated and discreet.

I don’t see it as elite or snobbery, or even saying what you do for a living is better or worse than anyone else. It’s just a phrase to show that you’re grown up and trustworthy. It doesn’t mean others are not.

Well we all know that a qualification doesn't necessarily make someone well mannered, behaved etc.!! It's just a class thing and a lot of nonsense."

See this is the thing. Where did I mention qualifications? I listed behaviours - For example, if I worked in something you’d called a “profession” and I acted out of line in business, someone would say “that’s not very professional of you” or “that’s not professional behaviour”.

It’s not to do with qualifications. It’s to do with showing you know how to act correctly according to the situation. And also that you have a good career that you wouldn’t risk (aka ‘you can trust me’).

That’s why I’ve had it on my profile. There really is no reason for anyone to feel inadequate or to speak negatively of those that have it on their page. It’s not saying anyone is better than whoever. It’s a term used to describe yourself. I think there’s a lot of insecurity and projection being thrown around.

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By *bsolutebeginnersCouple
over a year ago

Planet Ork

Professional means that you can look at photos of my tits but you’re not getting a picture of my face!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

Elitism? I think that’s a strange way of looking at it. I always interpret the term as meaning you are well mannered, well behaved, well trained/educated and discreet.

I don’t see it as elite or snobbery, or even saying what you do for a living is better or worse than anyone else. It’s just a phrase to show that you’re grown up and trustworthy. It doesn’t mean others are not.

Well we all know that a qualification doesn't necessarily make someone well mannered, behaved etc.!! It's just a class thing and a lot of nonsense.

This ..... ‘trustworthy’ lawyer, accountant, politician I think not. "

Very mature comment *clap clap*. Not at all based on biases and stereotypes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a 'chav'

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Wandsworth

read between the lines, not everything as to be said.

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By *ersey GirlCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I think it means a lot more to those it offends

R

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a snobby way of saying ‘I’m classy and i work’ ..... "

I disagree. I take it to mean they work in a profession that it would be considered unprofessional and in some cases inappropriate to be on swinging websites.

Police, armed forces, solicitors etc to name a few.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

This topic is always guaranteed to expose inverted snobbery, which is no better than snobbery itself. I often imagine people saying "I'm not going to that doctor, surgeon, dentist, lawyer because they're professionals". On the other hand most of us thank god they are professionals.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend


"Whenever I see 'professional' on Fab I think they are escorts lol. Just makes me smile every time, I'm easy pleased tho ! Hehe

Lx"

that is what is suggests to me, the oldest profession in the world

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I think it means a lot more to those it offends

R"

I agree

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

There's never an estate estate when you want one. They band this word day after day, yet are the sure they know what it means?

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Whenever I see 'professional' on Fab I think they are escorts lol. Just makes me smile every time, I'm easy pleased tho ! Hehe

Lx

that is what is suggests to me, the oldest profession in the world "

Actually, this was disproved on the TV series called the Knock. Protection is the first profession. It's how we survived in the womb, being born and growing up. Even though it's generally unpaid, it's still work. Ask any nanny/childminder.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE "

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Why does the term “professional” rub some people up the wrong way? Genuine question.

I see nothing wrong with the term, but I’ve noticed quite a few people seem to dislike it. How come?

I don’t see why they’re using it .... seems to smack of elitism to me. I mean why does it matter what you do for living? Why would they put it?

Elitism? I think that’s a strange way of looking at it. I always interpret the term as meaning you are well mannered, well behaved, well trained/educated and discreet.

I don’t see it as elite or snobbery, or even saying what you do for a living is better or worse than anyone else. It’s just a phrase to show that you’re grown up and trustworthy. It doesn’t mean others are not.

Well we all know that a qualification doesn't necessarily make someone well mannered, behaved etc.!! It's just a class thing and a lot of nonsense.

See this is the thing. Where did I mention qualifications? I listed behaviours - For example, if I worked in something you’d called a “profession” and I acted out of line in business, someone would say “that’s not very professional of you” or “that’s not professional behaviour”.

It’s not to do with qualifications. It’s to do with showing you know how to act correctly according to the situation. And also that you have a good career that you wouldn’t risk (aka ‘you can trust me’).

That’s why I’ve had it on my profile. There really is no reason for anyone to feel inadequate or to speak negatively of those that have it on their page. It’s not saying anyone is better than whoever. It’s a term used to describe yourself. I think there’s a lot of insecurity and projection being thrown around.

"

Well for what it's worth. I understand it. I'm sure plenty of others do.

It does surprise me the "class" attacks on here,

The very clear prejudices people have about people they have never met. ...not sure why it's necessary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE "

Two Fellows - you must have more brass than sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job "

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there

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By *harisajidanWoman
over a year ago

london


"As an outsider, looking in on the UK forum..

Ive never understood the UK class system. There are nuances I either don't see, or simply don't get. To me, it seems that fabbers describing themselves as professional want to meet "people like us"... Whatever that might look like to them. And also suggests they don't want to meet "people not like us". I can understand this. I'm choosy about who I meet. "

Same, it’s an almost mystery to me too. I just know apparently upper classes like Barbour jackets... I guess.

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By *ovelaughliveCouple
over a year ago

Oldham

Thats exactly why we say were professional people, because we have to be discreet and not act in a way that could be perceived by the public as unprofessional in anyway.

Unfortunately people who don't know much about swinging see it as seedy x

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

So there we go. Problem solved. No need for any shenanigens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain."

What he said!

Simply requires specialist training in the particular field!

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By *astesLikeMagicWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle

I just take it to mean 'in paid employment'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always thought that they meant they had professional jobs too. Like lawyers doctors etc. What does anyone else think it means x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We'll I would class myself as upper lower class

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

What better place for finding something to do during those long holidays!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All people from different backgrounds and jobs are on here. The professional people i think that they are worried about someone seeing them and losing their 100 grand a year jobs . What does anyone else think

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"As an outsider, looking in on the UK forum..

Ive never understood the UK class system. There are nuances I either don't see, or simply don't get. To me, it seems that fabbers describing themselves as professional want to meet "people like us"... Whatever that might look like to them. And also suggests they don't want to meet "people not like us". I can understand this. I'm choosy about who I meet.

Same, it’s an almost mystery to me too. I just know apparently upper classes like Barbour jackets... I guess. "

Just remember that the definition of a snob is: "Someone who wants to know people who don't want to know them"!

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there "

When I got my job & management got the business cards done I got them to put .Fos on the end.

In twenty years of handing them out no one ever asked. If they had I would have had to tell them

S

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"So!

Professional musicians, professional dancers, footballers, athletes, artists?"

You forgot to include layabouts!

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By *ooneyCouple
over a year ago

Chester

Professional = head stuck up ones own arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there

When I got my job & management got the business cards done I got them to put .Fos on the end.

In twenty years of handing them out no one ever asked. If they had I would have had to tell them

S"

What does it mean?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

It means that if you have to question what people mean when they say “professional”, the people who wrote it are not interested in you

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there

When I got my job & management got the business cards done I got them to put .Fos on the end.

In twenty years of handing them out no one ever asked. If they had I would have had to tell them

S

What does it mean? "

Full of shit.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there

When I got my job & management got the business cards done I got them to put .Fos on the end.

In twenty years of handing them out no one ever asked. If they had I would have had to tell them

S

What does it mean?

Full of shit. "

I think

I hope

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By *aughtyDuetCouple
over a year ago

Shropshire


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

What he said!

Simply requires specialist training in the particular field!"

I’m definitely a professional then. I’ve been doing extensive training in pleasuring myself. I have acquired edging skills and can do all of this with my eyes closed...... on another level.....

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By *eoeclipseWoman
over a year ago

glasgow


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

I might be missing sarcasm here but why not? Adult site, no kids should see & well how did kids come about, we all do it.

If the kids found out you'd be questioning who thought it appropriate to expose the teachers private life.

Really annoys me. Sex life & professional life are 2 different things, shouldn't matter at all long as its legal & consensual.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there

When I got my job & management got the business cards done I got them to put .Fos on the end.

In twenty years of handing them out no one ever asked. If they had I would have had to tell them

S

What does it mean?

Full of shit.

I think

I hope "

Got it in one

I was miffed no one ever asked, had others in front of it after two years of study but haven’t been in that profession for ten years or more.

I’m definitely vocational now.

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there

When I got my job & management got the business cards done I got them to put .Fos on the end.

In twenty years of handing them out no one ever asked. If they had I would have had to tell them

S

What does it mean?

Full of shit.

I think

I hope

Got it in one

I was miffed no one ever asked, had others in front of it after two years of study but haven’t been in that profession for ten years or more.

I’m definitely vocational now.

S"

Aha! So not Fab of swingers.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It means that if you have to question what people mean when they say “professional”, the people who wrote it are not interested in you"

How do you come to that conclusion.? You can only know what you are interested in.

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By *eoeclipseWoman
over a year ago

glasgow


"Professional strictly speaking means to be paid for work you are trained for and competent at but it is now being used a lot to say I'm middle or upper class and although maybe not intentionally I think it can project a mightier than thou message and I'm earning lots more than minimum wage and wear a suit to work attitude. I earn well, can't remember last time I wore a suit apart from overalls, spend every day of my life grafting even some weekends, have a nice big house rural, two cars, two bikes, nothing on finance but out and out working class, down to earth and would never pretend to be anything else. I scrub up well, am well spoken and an old school gent but that doesn't put me a step up from anyone else. People are either nice or assholes, no classes are needed to portray a persona.

Based on what you say with earnings lifestyle etc you are deffinatly not working class no matter how much you want to be. You are middle class at the least."

Class is the attitude not the money.

I.e I get called posh & middle/upper class, mostly due to my experiences (horses,ballet,bit country, professional parents etc) was privy to particularly as a child. formal education I have issue with for several reasons, yet love to learn & learn lots of subjects the way i need to, money wise well uc says all.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"It means that if you have to question what people mean when they say “professional”, the people who wrote it are not interested in you

How do you come to that conclusion.? You can only know what you are interested in. "

GUARANTEED accurate lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it mean they have heard of deodorants, shower before a meet and clean their teeth ? ( assuming they still have them that is? )

Otherwise could mean anything you like!!

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

We find it a bit off putting when we read that on a profile.

Do they think they're getting paid after?

Too Pretentious for us.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Sod it, I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, FIMMM, FIMechE

^ This winds me up in signatures. I don’t care about someone’s memberships when they email me , a cv is for that. Most professionals have their first degree , post grad / masters and professional certifications/memberships it’s a given, Why do some feel the need to tell you.... and those starting with A make smile, you can be an associate of any organisation if you have a degree and a related job

Yeah, I don't use them on an email, business card or anything.

I know a guy who collects Associate memberships like stamps, all on his signature, must have 6 or so on there

When I got my job & management got the business cards done I got them to put .Fos on the end.

In twenty years of handing them out no one ever asked. If they had I would have had to tell them

S

What does it mean?

Full of shit.

I think

I hope

Got it in one

I was miffed no one ever asked, had others in front of it after two years of study but haven’t been in that profession for ten years or more.

I’m definitely vocational now.

S

Aha! So not Fab of swingers. "

Haha, Nooooo,

S

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

They are not amateurs or DIYers maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a professional, just an enthusiastic amateur

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

You've pretty much nailed it already, op, nothing to do with snobbery or any of that. It's additional information for anyone that reads the profile and may attract the people you're interested in, nothing more and no biggie apart for those who take offence, ah well!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It means that if you have to question what people mean when they say “professional”, the people who wrote it are not interested in you"

This!! To us, it means we both have jobs where discretion is very important to us.

As others have said, lawyers, teachers, police, doctors, or any other profession where being "outed" on here could be detrimental to their careers.

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"It means that if you have to question what people mean when they say “professional”, the people who wrote it are not interested in you

This!! To us, it means we both have jobs where discretion is very important to us.

As others have said, lawyers, teachers, police, doctors, or any other profession where being "outed" on here could be detrimental to their careers.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

What he said!

Simply requires specialist training in the particular field!"

Then every tradesman would be titled 'a professional', but I guarantee anyone that calls themselves a professional would be offended at the notion of being put on the same level as a tradesmen.

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By *irtySekretsCouple
over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent

Have a well paid job. Good standard of living. Comfortable and not a Council Chav

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"Have a well paid job. Good standard of living. Comfortable and not a Council Chav "

And this is exactly the attitude that most people here are saying that 'professionals' have

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a well paid job. Good standard of living. Comfortable and not a Council Chav

And this is exactly the attitude that most people here are saying that 'professionals' have"

Each to their own. On here, people are free to choose who they do, or do not have contact with.

In my job, I work with a lot of people who don't work, have no intention of working, claim every benefit going, blame the government for all their problems, smoke, drink, have the latest phones, have sky TV and have to go to food banks.

Some of them are lovely people, to be honest, some aren't, some of them might be on here, but, sorry, they aren't professional.

Council chav, that's a sweeping statement I don't agree with, but let's be fair, they are a thing, and aren't professional. We've all been contacted by them, let's not kid on they don't exist, or aren't on here.

I don't agree with the well paid job bit, you don't need to be well paid to be professional, tell that to the supermarket workers and everyone else who has worked their socks off all through lockdown while highly paid office workers were sitting at home for a year on full salary. Professional is a mindset, not a salary.

Anyway, let's not get all worked up over a word

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By *irtySekretsCouple
over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent

Sadly, we have proved the point.

The idea in everyone’s heads is that “A Professional” is someone who has a good job. Has standards and who think they are above anyone else.

You can be all of the above but you could also be rude. Treat people like shit. Be vile and self important.

The truth is. Some of the loveliest, kindest, interesting and sexy people are not “professional”

They are hard working, poorly paid but they still show they have standards. And that’s what it’s about.

Being professional doesn’t make you better than anyone else.

Being a decent human being does.

We are Business Owners. But we don’t think we are above others.

In the swinging world we are attracted to who we are attracted to.

We don’t give a shit if they drive a Jaguar F Pace or a Ford Focus.

Is they have standards and there is mutual attraction then who cares. No one needs labels.

Xxxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It generally means "I think my job makes me better than people who have jobs that I perceive to be more lower-class than mine."

More British snobbery, frankly.

They might be letting people know they are in roles with responsibility and will behave in a professional manner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies, had to delete my last post because I, and I think wrongly, assumed, you were replying to me.

Supermarket workers, bus drivers, nurses, care home staff eyc, all make minimum wage, and are equally if not more so, as professional as so called executives who sit behind a desk and think they rule the world.

Anyone who gets off their backside and tries to make their world better with their own hard woek is a professional person IMO.

Totally agree with your comment about standards too though, however, at least on here, we have control over the people we get, or keep in touch with, regardless of their circumstances.

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By *itzimadCouple
over a year ago

harwich

its the polite way to say NO Wayne or Waynetta's

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Some of the "anti" comments and judgement on here... Seriously. Apparently someone who is professional suffers from elitism, self importance, snobbery all these assumptions about someone you have never met nor exchanged any communication with. ... Oh my word. It would be laughable if it weren't so ignorant and sad and at times offensive. Judge not people lest ye be judged.

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By *urpeesandwineCouple
over a year ago

Hove

Well - we never knew that using that word (which does describe us perfectly) would stimulate such a polarised response. Maybe time to rethink - but probably no

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"Well - we never knew that using that word (which does describe us perfectly) would stimulate such a polarised response. Maybe time to rethink - but probably no "

It'll get you on few block lists too. Nice pics btw.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"I think it's pathetic, it's an excuse to not show a face pic. It matters not if you claim to be a "professional" or if you clean the streets, most of us would still desire and expect discretion. Your need for privacy is not on a different level to anybody else's"

I agree. My choice for discretion and privacy is no greater than yours but it is my choice. What matters to me may not to you. It's not about excuses or professional standing. What's pathetic is the generalisation you make

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By *urpeesandwineCouple
over a year ago

Hove


"Well - we never knew that using that word (which does describe us perfectly) would stimulate such a polarised response. Maybe time to rethink - but probably no

It'll get you on few block lists too. Nice pics btw."

Thank you

Never considered being on a block list! We are professional who behave well and are really nice

I guess that’s ok though - our profile is there to give people a bit on information about us so they can get a sense of us and if there is some potential interest

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"Well - we never knew that using that word (which does describe us perfectly) would stimulate such a polarised response. Maybe time to rethink - but probably no

It'll get you on few block lists too. Nice pics btw.

Thank you

Never considered being on a block list! We are professional who behave well and are really nice

I guess that’s ok though - our profile is there to give people a bit on information about us so they can get a sense of us and if there is some potential interest

"

Exactly! Nail on the head for us and exactly why we have it on ours

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Well - we never knew that using that word (which does describe us perfectly) would stimulate such a polarised response. Maybe time to rethink - but probably no

It'll get you on few block lists too. Nice pics btw.

Thank you

Never considered being on a block list! We are professional who behave well and are really nice

I guess that’s ok though - our profile is there to give people a bit on information about us so they can get a sense of us and if there is some potential interest

Exactly! Nail on the head for us and exactly why we have it on ours "

Put your tin hat on!

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"Some of the "anti" comments and judgement on here... Seriously. Apparently someone who is professional suffers from elitism, self importance, snobbery all these assumptions about someone you have never met nor exchanged any communication with. ... Oh my word. It would be laughable if it weren't so ignorant and sad and at times offensive. Judge not people lest ye be judged. "

Totally this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting thread. Clearly there is no universal definition / understanding, and definitely some looking up or down on others, which is laughable, ultimately wrong and shows more about themselves than the people who they feel are full of self-importance or lacking professional status etc.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

My opinion is there are more issues from “non-professionals”, which is why I used to put it, to put those people with issues and hang ups off from

meeting me.

I have no issues with anyone’s background, job, financial status...... it’s all quite boring conversation, I’d rather talk about what they dream and desire to do ....I left school at 16 to work split shifts in restaurants long before becoming a professional or trying avocado

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

It's a puzzler?

I understand what people mean with the professional tag but it's probably not technically true for everyone. I think we all know what people mean but I really don't understand when some folks describe them selves as professional in a view that they are somehow better than those that aren't. Obviously they are just doing it for the love then or just the retain amateur status

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By *tuYorksMan
over a year ago

Barnsley

Language is such a wonderful thing isn't it ? One word, that superficially seems pretty benign, can be interpreted in so many ways & provoke quite an emotional response from some.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's a puzzler?

I understand what people mean with the professional tag but it's probably not technically true for everyone. I think we all know what people mean but I really don't understand when some folks describe them selves as professional in a view that they are somehow better than those that aren't. Obviously they are just doing it for the love then or just the retain amateur status "

Genuine question as many have stated similar. You write..

"professional in a view that they are somehow better than those that aren't"

Which words do you take to imply state or mean that they are somehow better than those who aren't?

It's a descriptive word, in the same way, slim, large, blonde, bearded, well dressed, casually dressed etc describe people.

I'm not sure where people make such assumptions and meanings from.

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By *edHeelsCplCouple
over a year ago

Kenilworth

Well, the raise of Professional bashing again on fab; why? Seems some of us have chips on our shoulders or feeling inferior? Those are you issues and do not off load them onto others.

I'm sorry but the definition is right there in the dictionary

Oxford English Dictionary

Professional

adjective

1 people in professional occupations: white-collar/executive/non-manual. Usually educated to degree level or further.

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"Well - we never knew that using that word (which does describe us perfectly) would stimulate such a polarised response. Maybe time to rethink - but probably no

It'll get you on few block lists too. Nice pics btw.

Thank you

Never considered being on a block list! We are professional who behave well and are really nice

I guess that’s ok though - our profile is there to give people a bit on information about us so they can get a sense of us and if there is some potential interest

Exactly! Nail on the head for us and exactly why we have it on ours

Put your tin hat on! "

Would if we cared, lol.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Sadly, we have proved the point.

The idea in everyone’s heads is that “A Professional” is someone who has a good job. Has standards and who think they are above anyone else.

You can be all of the above but you could also be rude. Treat people like shit. Be vile and self important.

The truth is. Some of the loveliest, kindest, interesting and sexy people are not “professional”

They are hard working, poorly paid but they still show they have standards. And that’s what it’s about.

Being professional doesn’t make you better than anyone else.

Being a decent human being does.

We are Business Owners. But we don’t think we are above others.

In the swinging world we are attracted to who we are attracted to.

We don’t give a shit if they drive a Jaguar F Pace or a Ford Focus.

Is they have standards and there is mutual attraction then who cares. No one needs labels.

Xxxxxxx"

This ..

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"Language is such a wonderful thing isn't it ? One word, that superficially seems pretty benign, can be interpreted in so many ways & provoke quite an emotional response from some. "

It looks as though the word does a good job for many on Fab, otherwise they would not use it.

I wonder what reaction one might get from describing oneself as "Chav"?

My rule of thumb is to run a mile from anyone describing herself as "Bubbly" !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *r IntriguedMan
over a year ago

wickford

From experience it more often than not means they work in a field that should it come out they swing. They would be judged in a way that would affect their prospects. There are enough back stabbing gits in many workplaces without throwing sex into the mix. Prefer discrete but I get what they mean.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

On fab, it means anything and nothing. Perhaps no more than a perceived privilege to get a shag

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By *iss pleasuringWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious."

That's a whole new can of worms.

Should a policeman be on this site.. at end of day we are all human. Work is work

Private life is usually completely separate from here

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By *ouplefor funCouple
over a year ago

near kilmarnock


"See I always understood it to mean that you belonged to one of the classic professions like doctor, lawyer, accountant, engineer. Something that requires specialised training and certification.

But someone told me it's also a way for people to say they're "middle class" without actually saying it?

I'm genuinely puzzled here and not trying to be snarky, I'm not English myself so sometimes I don't fully understand your, uh, class stuff and social ways.

Anyway, nice to meet you all. "

My take on the use of the term but think it over used now

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By *odgerMan
over a year ago

Coventry(ish)London


"To us it means a professional work environment such as doctor lawyer or a similar job"

Lawyers aren't professional...they're the biggest scammers of all time.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"To us it means a professional work environment such as doctor lawyer or a similar job

Lawyers aren't professional...they're the biggest scammers of all time."

Pretty much sums up politicians too. Hang on, that makes Tony B.Liar a professional twice over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vocation: a job that requires a particular set of skills acquired through experience or through training but not necessarily dependent on a college degree.

Profession: career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.

I would class myself as a professional as a teacher I have to and continue to have extensive training but my no means would call myself middle class. Have you seen how much teachers are pain.

Should a teacher really be on a site like this? No hate just curious.

That's a whole new can of worms.

Should a policeman be on this site.. at end of day we are all human. Work is work

Private life is usually completely separate from here "

There's alot of Police men here...not as many as before for some reason...I wonder why...maybe just because of lockdown restrictions...

But yea I was shocked at how many... especially in Ireland... Not sure if some were claiming to be but actually weren't... But anyway...why shouldn't they be here...their private life is just that... All's ok once they're not swinging in whilst supposed to be working...as happened before to a Cop and he was caught Just got away with a temporary suspension

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By *isstonguetasticjoWoman
over a year ago

widnes

The way some people state they are a PROFESSIONAL

They want to make people think they are a professional shagger blaggin as tho they are a perfectionist.

Tryin to sell themselves

Lookin as tho it wud be the best fuck anybody ever had with them as tho they are a unique

I would class a professional person as tho they had a top role job an get a good wage for it.

Mayb of people stated some form of itentity as on their profession it wudnt make out wen reading that they think they are a perfectionist shagger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bodie and Doyle together are The Professionals.

Hope that helps"

Yep, you have to work for CI5 and answer only to George Cowley.

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

According to Wikipedia, Professional people don't go to Blackpool, Benidorm or Butlins. No idea if that's true.

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By *antric ecstasyMan
over a year ago

Co Durham

Professional: Someone who has a job he or she would get fired from if it was discovered that you are on Fab.

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By *inky_CarpenterMan
over a year ago

Portsmouth

I have a post graduate degree, but I work as a self employed tradesman..... so I'm never sure which box I fit into when people say this....

Confused Carpenter

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"I have a post graduate degree, but I work as a self employed tradesman..... so I'm never sure which box I fit into when people say this....

Confused Carpenter "

You're a Professional Carpenter

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