FabSwingers.com forum: Hot wife/ Vixen/ Bull/ Cuckhold!

By *uitednbooted2 OP Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

Is it just me or is there a lot of misuse of these names/terms on fab due to people not understanding what they are? Lots of couples for example use the hot wife term but when you read their profile they are clearly Stag Vixen, or even perhaps cuckhold. Be good hear peepers understanding of these terms. Let’s clear it up once and for all

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Terminology is helpful but only if everyone understands it. Been on the scene for years and always thought as follows...

Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)

Hotwife - has sex with other men without their husband/BF being present but with their full knowledge and “permission”

Cuckold - lots of flavours but generally the husband/BF/Cuck has no say or power over the situation. May be “forced” to watch, listen, wait at home, clean up, be humiliated, male bi action, etc and any mix thereof

So on that basis it makes us a Stag/Vixen couple with a bi-vixen

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By *uitednbooted2 OP Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

"Terminology is helpful but only if everyone understands it. Been on the scene for years and always thought as follows...

Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)

Hotwife - has sex with other men without their husband/BF being present but with their full knowledge and “permission”

So on that basis it makes us a Stag/Vixen couple with a bi-vixen"

Wow what a great first reply. I think we can close the thread

. However what s your understanding of what a ‘ bull’ is ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I've stumbled over different terms and interpretations a lot. Too many assume hotwife = cuckold, that seems to be the main problem. I'm a hotwife and sometimes vixen with no cuck element. But sometimes all the different terminology causes more hassle than its worth and I just play as a solo married women, or single woman for simplicity xx

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Would say “Bull” has connotations of being a dominant male and therefore more likely connected to one of the variety of Cuckold scenarios.

As a Stag/Bi-Vixen couple we do prefer our men to be confident strong personalities (and our bi women playmates too) but if they tried dominating either of us they would be shown the door!

Kink has soooo many permutations that would actually be best for people just to be clear in their profiles what they want (and for people to actually bother reading them).

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By *r and Mrs B xxCouple
over a year ago

Chippenham

My husband and myself have straight threesomes with other guys but I also have my own profile and meet alone with his full knowledge. What would we be? Stag/vixen with a hotwife?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Terminology is helpful but only if everyone understands it. Been on the scene for years and always thought as follows...

Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)

Hotwife - has sex with other men without their husband/BF being present but with their full knowledge and “permission”

So on that basis it makes us a Stag/Vixen couple with a bi-vixen"

“Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)”

... only other *straight men ? x

I’d quite like the tag vixen

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By *ifunlover69Man
over a year ago

Exeter

And a definition of stag is ... ?

Can you have a stag without a vixen? And surely the dynamic is different with hubby / bf / stag?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Lol just reading some other replies...so many permutations you filthy lot!!!!

Maybe we need a numbering scheme with unique identifiers

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By *uitednbooted2 OP Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

"Lol just reading some other replies...so many permutations you filthy lot!!!!

Maybe we need a numbering scheme with unique identifiers

Like Hot Wife 5 (i) c ?

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

Interesting titles with improper uses:

A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife;

The word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to its habit of laying its eggs in other nests Dictionary of Phrase.

Note difficult to relate the above to a shared planned experience?

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

"My husband and myself have straight threesomes with other guys but I also have my own profile and meet alone with his full knowledge. What would we be? Stag/vixen with a hotwife?"

Enjoyable but dangerous?

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

Its a funny old world when we all clamber for titles explain our mutual desires and then to hang them around our own necks for others ease of understanding don't you think?

Especially when its difficult in the light of day to understand what it is that makes us enjoy those very desires factually.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Terminology is helpful but only if everyone understands it. Been on the scene for years and always thought as follows...

Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)

Hotwife - has sex with other men without their husband/BF being present but with their full knowledge and “permission”

So on that basis it makes us a Stag/Vixen couple with a bi-vixen"

We are the same stag and bi vixen...

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By *uzboxCouple
over a year ago

Northwich

All this confuses me so we don't use labels, we just make it clear on our profile what we like to do

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By *r and Mrs B xxCouple
over a year ago

Chippenham

"My husband and myself have straight threesomes with other guys but I also have my own profile and meet alone with his full knowledge. What would we be? Stag/vixen with a hotwife?

Enjoyable but dangerous?"

Dangerous? Why?

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By *ogerroger69Man
over a year ago

West Yorks

My wife and I started out as a hot wife couple and hubby can be present

We eventually morphed into a cuckold couple with me orally servicing her lovers too

There was no overt dominance from her bulls, we made some great friends

If a man is physically bigger and better then why not enjoy him together?

Does anyone agree?

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

"All this confuses me so we don't use labels, we just make it clear on our profile what we like to do"

like that

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By *esparate danMan
over a year ago

glasgow

"Interesting titles with improper uses:

A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife;

The word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to its habit of laying its eggs in other nests Dictionary of Phrase.

Note difficult to relate the above to a shared planned experience?

It's been taken up as a wank fantasy now. Many Cuckold profiles here are men pretending or at least exaggerating they have this arrangement

I would wager too that in the overwhelming majority of actual cuckold relationships it has been initiated by the man

So he would never be unwitting ... maybe it just gives them more of a sense of control

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By *ogerroger69Man
over a year ago

West Yorks

It’s a complex mental state

You do indeed encourage her to have sex with other men so you have helped engineer the situation

But you derive pleasure from live sex shows starring your wife

You both win and it’s just sex?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Interesting titles with improper uses:

A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife;

The word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to its habit of laying its eggs in other nests Dictionary of Phrase.

Note difficult to relate the above to a shared planned experience?

It's been taken up as a wank fantasy now. Many Cuckold profiles here are men pretending or at least exaggerating they have this arrangement

I would wager too that in the overwhelming majority of actual cuckold relationships it has been initiated by the man

So he would never be unwitting ... maybe it just gives them more of a sense of control "

As we and others said above, there are many permutations of kink. Labels can be restrictive but do at least provide a general short hand or guide rails.

We are not, and have no desire to be, a cuckold couple but we know many couples enjoy that dynamic.

In our experience discussing this with other swingers we have generally found (but not always) that:

1. The cuckold is totally complicit in the initial decision. Ie they WANT some form of humiliation as it is exciting.

2. That “humiliation” may be minor in that the wife/GF meets men behind his back (but he finds out) right the way through to being cock caged/tied up and forced to watch and clean up.

3. It is a very broad spectrum but ultimately the cuckold is totally willing.

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By *ogerroger69Man
over a year ago

West Yorks

Why do we crave humiliation?

I’m an intelligent guy but I crave humiliation in private

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Why do we crave humiliation?

I’m an intelligent guy but I crave humiliation in private "

It is similar to ppl who enjoy Sub/Dom set ups. There is excitement in the abdication of control or power.

Often, not always, someone who is sexually a Sub may actually be quite/very assertive or powerful in vanilla life.

That sort of dynamic will sometimes also explain being a cuckold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it just me or is there a lot of misuse of these names/terms on fab due to people not understanding what they are? Lots of couples for example use the hot wife term but when you read their profile they are clearly Stag Vixen, or even perhaps cuckhold. Be good hear peepers understanding of these terms. Let’s clear it up once and for all"

We are Stag Vixen certainly not the others

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By *ogerroger69Man
over a year ago

West Yorks

Agreed

Its a release from real life

Submission is release from convention and responsibility

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My husband and myself have straight threesomes with other guys but I also have my own profile and meet alone with his full knowledge. What would we be? Stag/vixen with a hotwife?"

Yes correct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Terminology is helpful but only if everyone understands it. Been on the scene for years and always thought as follows...

Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)

Hotwife - has sex with other men without their husband/BF being present but with their full knowledge and “permission”

So on that basis it makes us a Stag/Vixen couple with a bi-vixen

“Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)”

... only other *straight men ? x

I’d quite like the tag vixen

I’m sure you do Vixen...

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole

We're Vixen / stag. Vixens only play if their Stag is prescent.

A hotwife plays alone and or with partner.

Makes do differance if play mates are bi or not.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Makes do differance if play mates are bi or not. "

I’d say it makes a difference to the non Bi person

Again though, lots of permutations and likely too many to provide a label to. You’d end up with...

Straight Stag/Straight Vixen

Straight Stag/Bi Vixen

Bi Stag/Straight Vixen

Bi Stage/Bi Vixen

Etc etc

So as we said above it would be nice if people just read the profiles. Our profile is looooong we know but it is clear on what we are looking for. If someone can’t be bothered to spend 3mins reading it then it says all we need to know about that person and we won’t bother replying.

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By *uitednbooted2 OP Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

"All this confuses me so we don't use labels, we just make it clear on our profile what we like to do"

Can’t disagree with that

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By *ananas57Couple
over a year ago

lake ariel

When I started doing what I do it was called being a slutty wife

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I started doing what I do it was called being a slutty wife

Said affectionately that’s still kinda nice ... I like being called my slutty wife

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I suppose that would potentially make me a vixen if I had a partner and the opportunities . I am also very submissive sexually so the partner would need to be dominant and want to activately encourage me to have sex with other men at the same time with him present .

So I am not into cuckold or going off on my own. No idea what that makes me then!

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By *uitednbooted2 OP Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

"I suppose that would potentially make me a vixen if I had a partner and the opportunities . I am also very submissive sexually so the partner would need to be dominant and want to activately encourage me to have sex with other men at the same time with him present .

So I am not into cuckold or going off on my own. No idea what that makes me then! "

A horny bugger ?

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By *edHeelsCplCouple
over a year ago

Kenilworth

So I am not into cuckold or going off on my own. No idea what that makes me then! "

That makes you a prime candidate for our hotlist. We’re a Domme switch couple xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We’re a stag & vixen hotwife Couple. We love playing together and I love her going and playing on her own as long as she’s treated like a princess and I get pics and videos

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

When I first started, 20+ years ago, I played with a couple for 8 years. We first started as a mfmm, the husband, one of the m's only used to watch, rarely joining in. That changed to mfm with the husband again mainly watching and filming. Gradually over time that changed to me playing with the wife on our own. Taking photos or video, occasionally other 'ways' of evidence for the husband's later perusal. I don't think there were any labels as such. Just the way we played.

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By *luebellRacerCouple
over a year ago

Shropshire

"We’re a stag & vixen hotwife Couple. We love playing together and I love her going and playing on her own as long as she’s treated like a princess and I get pics and videos

Yeah this is pretty much us too. But I'd also have no issues with Mr playing alone either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are definitely a bi stag and bi vixen couple but we have interest in experimenting with the hotwife scenario. As a stag I want to watch, direct and join when and how I want, but most of all I love watching Mrs being fucked and watching her enjoy it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a ‘hotwife’ I play totally on my own and then tell hubby all about it after. Most blokes think it’s me saying I’m hot and a wife

or they think it’s cuckold

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By *hett and scarlettCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

"Terminology is helpful but only if everyone understands it. Been on the scene for years and always thought as follows...

Vixen - has sex with other straight men together with their husband/BF/Stag (threesomes etc)

Hotwife - has sex with other men without their husband/BF being present but with their full knowledge and “permission”

So on that basis it makes us a Stag/Vixen couple with a bi-vixen"

Wow, game over with a killer accurate first response!

We’d absolutely agree and Scarlett is firmly in the hotwife camp

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