FabSwingers.com forum: Does meeting a TV/TS mean your Bi/Gay??

By *aughtydante OP Man
over a year ago

Midlands Based But Travel

I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Ummmm yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Of course. Welcome to the club. But get sucking that cock next time

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By *aughtydante OP Man
over a year ago

Midlands Based But Travel

Its not what they wanted at all they identified as female

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?"

In all honesty does it matter?

If she identifies as she, then she is she.

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By *aughtydante OP Man
over a year ago

Midlands Based But Travel

No it doesnt really matter.. everyone to there own but i have to chose sexuality on here.

Doe straight men meet TVTS or should i put my profile to bi? Is why im askin lol

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By *umslaveTV/TS
over a year ago

Sheffield

I used to be very Draconian about this but my stance has softened. You were attracted to her femininity and she identifies as a girl; what's the problem? When I'm with a man I want him to treat me like a he would a woman not as a man with a penis. Don't worry about these labels. I have gender issues and I'm finding it difficult at the moment, if I could find a man who treated me like a real woman I'd be over the moon.

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

You are Gynophilic.

Look it up...

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By *uyreed22Man
over a year ago

Walthamstow

Transgender women are women and men who choose sleep with them, if they aren't attracted to the opposite sex, are still straight.

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By *aughtydante OP Man
over a year ago

Midlands Based But Travel

"You are Gynophilic.

Look it up...

Googled it and why does the description have to use so many long confusing words lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I'd say you're bi. You're still having sex with someone that has a penis.

But I suspect you'll get a range of opinions here.

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By *aughtydante OP Man
over a year ago

Midlands Based But Travel

"Transgender women are women and men who choose sleep with them, if they aren't attracted to the opposite sex, are still straight."

Thats my stance on it aswell i think lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both grabbing popcorn here..

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

So my take on this is that you are possibly/probably bi curious right now because you looking to meet up with a couple and my guess is that you want to see how far things progress between you and the guy, to me that's bi curious.

That you met with a trans woman who has breasts, very likely lives and identifies as a woman should be telling you that you met a woman, that she is currently or may be staying non-op means very little other than she was born in the wrong body, a male one.

You having sex with a woman to me says that was regular heterosexual sex albeit with someone who happens to have a penis. My guess is you didn't get to touch her penis because she didn't want you to although that is an assumption on my part because of what I have seen of some trans women not wanting that part of their body touched as they feel it isn't part of them that they like.

Others (trans women) with more experience of this may have a better view on the subject.

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By *ylonistMan
over a year ago

Worksop

If you both enjoyed it surely that is the most important thing. Labels are for other people so

be proud and honest if you want to put bi or identify as such then great

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You fucked a bloke up the ass , your Bi , if he still has the bits he’s still a bloke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you annoyed to be under the bi label?

To me it really do not matter. Its not like its a CV or a criminal record. Tomorrow may be different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is only a label, does it really make any difference? If both/all parties enjoy it then who cares? Is there any difference between a male and female mouth? Is there any difference between a male and female anus? The other bits are different but so what. If it feels good, do it!

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"It is only a label, does it really make any difference? If both/all parties enjoy it then who cares? Is there any difference between a male and female mouth? Is there any difference between a male and female anus? The other bits are different but so what. If it feels good, do it!"

Of course labels matter...so im not dressed up so look like a normal regular guy (trust me I really do) then you can introduce me to your parents and kids as a woman and say you're not gay....how silly do you think you're going to look?

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By *idnight_Express69Man
over a year ago

Rochdale

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?"

Labels are for tins.

You had sex with someone.

It was consensual.

You enjoyed yourself.

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By *konCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

Looking at your green arrow questions your confused not curious

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By *umslaveTV/TS
over a year ago

Sheffield

There is nothing wrong with being bi either OP. It's not a crime or anything.

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

"You are Gynophilic.

Look it up...

Googled it and why does the description have to use so many long confusing words lol"

In its simplest form you are attracted to feminity... be it a cis woman, trans woman, CD, TV etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it doesnt really matter.. everyone to there own but i have to chose sexuality on here.

Doe straight men meet TVTS or should i put my profile to bi? Is why im askin lol"

I would think as longs as you are happy and true to your own preferences. And open with those you wish to meet, then classification is a pointless exercise.

Be you, and have fun

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

"I would think as long as you are happy and true to your own preferences. And open with those you wish to meet, then classification is a pointless exercise.

Be you, and have fun"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You fucked a bloke up the ass , your Bi , if he still has the bits he’s still a bloke"

Not the most enlightened response I have ever read

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

"You fucked a bloke up the ass , your Bi , if he still has the bits he’s still a bloke

Not the most enlightened response I have ever read

Unfortunately the usual response!

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west

Dan here.

This is an interesting question because I’ve pondered it myself.

I have no desire to be sexually intimate with another man, but I’d jump at the chance to do so with a feminine TS who still has a penis, I’ve jerked off to TS porn in the past and to me it’s a woman with a cock, not a man that looks like a woman.

I wouldn’t identify as bisexual purely because another man doesn’t turn me on.

Ultimately it doesn’t really matter though, if I had sex with a TS and that meant I was bi, it wouldn’t bother me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met with someone on a different site who described themselves as pre op, I dove in mouth and throat first, and there is something not only intimate, but also trusting in doing this, names are only a lable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You fucked a bloke up the ass , your Bi , if he still has the bits he’s still a bloke

Not the most enlightened response I have ever read

Unfortunately the usual response!"

Don’t you just love an ‘expert’

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west

"You fucked a bloke up the ass , your Bi , if he still has the bits he’s still a bloke"

A penis isn’t the deciding factor of gender though, this is a pretty narrow minded opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?"

If you were attracted to the trans lady because she still had her male parts, then I’d say you’re bi. If you were attracted in spite of her genitalia and found that part of no interest to you, I’d say straight.

However, you say you’d like to meet a couple to find out what you’re open to.... I guess you’re at least bi curious.

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By *orthern_SteveMan
over a year ago

Basingstoke

So I read an scientific article from the US recently about where you put your cock should not define your sexuality

I do agreed with a lot of the findings, the pleasure receptors for some men overide their normal decision making and even though they partake in anal sex with a trans girl it does not make them bisexual.

For me I am bisexual so trans girls actually attract my masculine male side and I am alpha male. Whereas with a man I can become very submissive.

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

However, you say you’d like to meet a couple to find out what you’re open to.... I guess you’re at least bi curious. "

You are Gynophilic.

In its simplest form you are attracted to feminity... be it a cis woman, trans woman, CD, TV etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its not what they wanted at all they identified as female "

You’ve answered your own question right there. They identify as female and so you had sex with a female.

Simples

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"Its not what they wanted at all they identified as female

You’ve answered your own question right there. They identify as female and so you had sex with a female.

Simples

Even if he sucked her cock?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I would say so

Just change your profile to bi curious

Problem solved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty sure you can suck as much cock as you want. You're only bin if you wear those little jockstrap pants with no back to them.

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By *umslaveTV/TS
over a year ago

Sheffield

It's just a man having sex with a woman. Nothing to see here

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By *appy2100Couple
over a year ago

kensington

"It's just a man having sex with a woman. Nothing to see here

Correct.

Enjoy life while we are here. Bi gay tv ts who cares have fun.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"No it doesnt really matter.. everyone to there own but i have to chose sexuality on here.

Doe straight men meet TVTS or should i put my profile to bi? Is why im askin lol"

If you decide to meet others who don't fit your sexuality other than a female depending upon sex of the person this would make you either bi or gay if you have interest from kissing to sexual but if you are confused obviously would be bi curious if you decide that you find both sex's attractive

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Sex is an act, sexuality is how you feel about your own or the opposite sex. So label yourself on how you feel not on your actions.

One same sex experience doesn’t make you gay or bi, if you feel that you want to experiment more, then you’re aware that you’re sexuality is more fluid, so label yourself bi

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By *ukeM8519Man
over a year ago

Dublin

If you have sex with a female does that make you straight again?

If someone tastes or tries drugs, does that mean they are a druggie for life?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Just enjoy your selves x

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

"You fucked a bloke up the ass , your Bi , if he still has the bits he’s still a bloke

Not the most enlightened response I have ever read

"
a, bit of a numbnut answer if you ask me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

However, you say you’d like to meet a couple to find out what you’re open to.... I guess you’re at least bi curious.

You are Gynophilic.

In its simplest form you are attracted to feminity... be it a cis woman, trans woman, CD, TV etc."

Except he said he’d like to meet a bi couple and see what he’s open to. That’s the bi curious bit surely?

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

However, you say you’d like to meet a couple to find out what you’re open to.... I guess you’re at least bi curious.

You are Gynophilic.

In its simplest form you are attracted to feminity... be it a cis woman, trans woman, CD, TV etc.

Except he said he’d like to meet a bi couple and see what he’s open to. That’s the bi curious bit surely? "

My thoughts exactly! The trans woman is a woman.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

I'm all woman

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

However, you say you’d like to meet a couple to find out what you’re open to.... I guess you’re at least bi curious.

You are Gynophilic.

In its simplest form you are attracted to feminity... be it a cis woman, trans woman, CD, TV etc.

Except he said he’d like to meet a bi couple and see what he’s open to. That’s the bi curious bit surely?

My thoughts exactly! The trans woman is a woman."
of course she is xxx,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it doesnt really matter.. everyone to there own but i have to chose sexuality on here.

Doe straight men meet TVTS or should i put my profile to bi? Is why im askin lol"

I’d say if you say u are fully bi then you would be happy to meet a regular gent. Are you attracted to men/manly features?

And no, that lady you met that was born a boy is trans. Looks like a lady, so you are attracted by her girl features.

Why does this topic keep coming back every so often??!

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By *ransistersTV/TS
over a year ago

Dover

Don't get sucked into this dross, everyday another post will appear about TVs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Head to that famous video streaming platform everyone uses and search "Are Traps Gay?" you're looking for a video by a user called Contrapoints.

Anyone saying this makes him Bi/straight should also do this, it's time to get educated on the topic and stop making baseless, outdated assumptions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

However, you say you’d like to meet a couple to find out what you’re open to.... I guess you’re at least bi curious.

You are Gynophilic.

In its simplest form you are attracted to feminity... be it a cis woman, trans woman, CD, TV etc.

Except he said he’d like to meet a bi couple and see what he’s open to. That’s the bi curious bit surely?

My thoughts exactly! The trans woman is a woman."

She is, yes. I just questioned what attracted him to her. If it was because he was turned on by her genitals it doesn’t change who she is, just him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"yes it does mean you are deffo bi at least."

My ex was straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yes it does mean you are deffo bi at least.

My ex was straight "

I think we’ve established the trans girl is a woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

I hate labels why not just say you have a great friend that you are really sexually attracted to and have had a wonderful sexual experience with and can’t wait to see them again, why care what others might think just have fun mate

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"yes it does mean you are deffo bi at least.

My ex was straight

I think we’ve established the trans girl is a woman

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm all woman "

I think that’s pretty bloody obvious too xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???"

We are talking trans here, some who go through hormones therapy, surgery potentially and gender reassignments at times! I’ve seen some proper gorgeous trans fellas who look better and more masculine than some guys on here

A gay man probably wouldn’t meet a trans girl for sex cos she looks and sounds and is a female (even if wasn’t a biological one)

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I'm all woman

I think that’s pretty bloody obvious too xx"

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???"

I would have thought that for you labels were very important as you would want to know up front that a guy was gay or bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???

A gay man probably wouldn’t meet a trans girl for sex cos she looks and sounds and is a female (even if wasn’t a biological one)"

+ Without blowing my own trumpet... 3/4 of the men on this site would be bisexual at least (as you claim I’m a man and guys see me as a man), with all the messages and likes I get

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Gay men like men not tgirls

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By *raceytvcdTV/TS
over a year ago

mansfield

"Gay men like men not tgirls "

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Gay men like men not tgirls

Xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???

A gay man probably wouldn’t meet a trans girl for sex cos she looks and sounds and is a female (even if wasn’t a biological one)"

To add to that: I know of several trans guys who have gay men interested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gay men like men not tgirls "

I’ve heard as well usually they like them macho too, like bear types and all

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Gay men like men not tgirls

I’ve heard as well usually they like them macho too, like bear types and all "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???

A gay man probably wouldn’t meet a trans girl for sex cos she looks and sounds and is a female (even if wasn’t a biological one)

To add to that: I know of several trans guys who have gay men interested. "

To be fair, I’ve seen a few trans guys and I was like whoa I can’t believe that! There are some great ones on YouTube

and they have gorgeous girlfriends (cis girls!!)

And no, they aren’t a lesbian couple.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Gay men like men not tgirls

I’ve heard as well usually they like them macho too, like bear types and all "

Trainers and joggers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???

A gay man probably wouldn’t meet a trans girl for sex cos she looks and sounds and is a female (even if wasn’t a biological one)

To add to that: I know of several trans guys who have gay men interested.

To be fair, I’ve seen a few trans guys and I was like whoa I can’t believe that! There are some great ones on YouTube

and they have gorgeous girlfriends (cis girls!!)

And no, they aren’t a lesbian couple. "

I’m on a face ache group with lots of trans men and posted there recently that I’d be up for a relationship with a trans guy. There’s some seriously good looking ones and I must admit I’m interested......

I may be exchanging messages daily, ok hourly with one

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???

A gay man probably wouldn’t meet a trans girl for sex cos she looks and sounds and is a female (even if wasn’t a biological one)

To add to that: I know of several trans guys who have gay men interested.

To be fair, I’ve seen a few trans guys and I was like whoa I can’t believe that! There are some great ones on YouTube

and they have gorgeous girlfriends (cis girls!!)

And no, they aren’t a lesbian couple. "

My cousin is FTM and until the shirt comes off and you see the light scarring where the breasts were removed, you would not know at all.

Deep voice, fairly muscular but doesn't work out, male pattern baldness, very bear type male amounts of body hair, rough hands from being a carpenter and a very lovely cis girlfriend.

They didn't transition until their mid 30s either so the hormones and surgery really worked wonders for him.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"If you have sex with a female does that make you straight again?

If someone tastes or tries drugs, does that mean they are a druggie for life?

How would any of that make any sense a person becomes bi or gay because they feel attracted to the same sex and if a person tried drugs ones doesn't make them anything other than has explored illegal drugs unless becomes a addict but if you have one pint of alcohol does that make you a alcoholic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

unless you are a woman then

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would a gay man meet a female if she dressed as a male???

A gay man probably wouldn’t meet a trans girl for sex cos she looks and sounds and is a female (even if wasn’t a biological one)

+ Without blowing my own trumpet... 3/4 of the men on this site would be bisexual at least (as you claim I’m a man and guys see me as a man), with all the messages and likes I get

Can I blow your trumpet

I see you as a gorgeous lady with exciting extras

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By *aughtydante OP Man
over a year ago

Midlands Based But Travel

Thanks for clearing it up. To summarise from this convo.

If the TV/TS or whatever label you want to put on the person. Identifys as a female. Then its sex with a female.

If they do not Identify as a female but just like to wear the clothes its a man lol.

Someone in this thread mentioned if its being attractive to someones feminity. I think that made the most sense to me.

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By *rcadian110Couple
over a year ago

Barnsley

If you were attracted to the penis and the idea of a feminine man then you could be bi. If you were attracted to the person you had sex with ,who presented and identified as a woman, and who until the bedroom , you treated as a woman then you had sex with a woman. You could still be bi but that act was a man with a woman which is hetro. I don't get all these extra lables and genders. Male and female is who the person is. Not the body they are in. If my best friend was to say to me tomorrow that he was a woman then he would become she to me. No different to before. It's still the person I love but would be as a sister instead of a brother. The important think is don't let others define you or your sexuality. That is yours and yours alone. No one has the right to lable you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve only ever been with females. Each to their own of course, but what makes me laugh is the guys who will fuck a ts etc and claim they straight. Anyone else heard that before?

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over a year ago

"I’ve only ever been with females. Each to their own of course, but what makes me laugh is the guys who will fuck a ts etc and claim they straight. Anyone else heard that before?"

You’re straight though, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’ve only ever been with females. Each to their own of course, but what makes me laugh is the guys who will fuck a ts etc and claim they straight. Anyone else heard that before?

You’re straight though, right? "
hi you, well I have only been with woman so far

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're open to a bi MF couple, I'd say "Bi-curious" I guess. Entirely up to you OP. As long as you put on your profile what you're looking for, it really shouldn't matter too much. There will always be someone who'll label you to suit their views, regardless of what you put

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to clear my previous message I certainly wasn’t mocking or meaning offence. I don’t know much to comment. I just meant if a man is attracted to anything with the penis he’s bi..

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By *rcadian110Couple
over a year ago

Barnsley

"Just to clear my previous message I certainly wasn’t mocking or meaning offence. I don’t know much to comment. I just meant if a man is attracted to anything with the penis he’s bi.."

Think you need to rephrase there . Any "thing" with a penis is a bit disrespectful.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"Just to clear my previous message I certainly wasn’t mocking or meaning offence. I don’t know much to comment. I just meant if a man is attracted to anything with the penis he’s bi..

Think you need to rephrase there . Any "thing" with a penis is a bit disrespectful. "

Well, it falls back on his nose as well though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just to clear my previous message I certainly wasn’t mocking or meaning offence. I don’t know much to comment. I just meant if a man is attracted to anything with the penis he’s bi..

Think you need to rephrase there . Any "thing" with a penis is a bit disrespectful. "
again I cause offence. I’m just dumb with wording. I really mean no offence. Any ‘person’

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

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"Just to clear my previous message I certainly wasn’t mocking or meaning offence. I don’t know much to comment. I just meant if a man is attracted to anything with the penis he’s bi.."

Where is the faceplate emoji when it's needed most

What you should have said you meant was that you were going to spend some time listening to folk who have the answers you need and also enlightening yourself on Google

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just to clear my previous message I certainly wasn’t mocking or meaning offence. I don’t know much to comment. I just meant if a man is attracted to anything with the penis he’s bi..

Where is the faceplate emoji when it's needed most

Already private messaging someone and getting educated as we speak

What you should have said you meant was that you were going to spend some time listening to folk who have the answers you need and also enlightening yourself on Google

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s pretty obvious by reading some of the incredibly definite and semi-aggressive replies that, confining oneself into a prescribed parameter where there are only 3 categories (straight, bi, gay) is problematic, and doesn’t fully explain the sexual interests of the vast majority of people.

Sure, the straight-bi-gay triangle works for some people but, for the most part, sexuality is more like traversing a dynamic spectrum of interests that can change and transform depending on the person’s current mood.

Transcend the confines of the triangle, and just enjoy your preferences, whatever they may be, without feeling the need to categorise and label yourself. You’ll be much happier for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Welcome to the rabbit hole that is CD/TV/SIS...

It means something different to each girl.

Some see it as a kink, some a lifestyle and some see it as an extension of personality.

Sexuality can be a minefield, for example; as a sissy Subconsciously I am trying to be as “feminine” as possible or my ideal of a perfect woman.

This means that when “her” the ultimate validity of a “sexy woman” is male validation. Meaning mentally sexuality will shift when “en femme”. Yet revert back when not.

Every trans/cd/tv or sis is different, at a different stage or trying to figure it out.

Try not to worry about putting a label or category on too much. Just enjoy the adventure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you were attracted to the penis and the idea of a feminine man then you could be bi. If you were attracted to the person you had sex with ,who presented and identified as a woman, and who until the bedroom , you treated as a woman then you had sex with a woman. You could still be bi but that act was a man with a woman which is hetro. I don't get all these extra lables and genders. Male and female is who the person is. Not the body they are in. If my best friend was to say to me tomorrow that he was a woman then he would become she to me. No different to before. It's still the person I love but would be as a sister instead of a brother. The important think is don't let others define you or your sexuality. That is yours and yours alone. No one has the right to lable you."

Exactly! Plus a lot of the time it’s how you feel inside, it digs in you if you pretend to be somebody u arent really.

I always felt as a woman, thought of myself as one. Played with dolls/and barbies when I was young, if I watched some cartoons I’d think of myself as one of the girls protagonists.

If I could have picked my own gender at birth, I’d have obviously chosen to be a cis girl. Well, I wasn’t born a cis girl, but in my mind I am, and I guess body follows.

In ways, I’d almost prefer to be referred as a third gender (closer to cis female but not quite), than to be seen as a male that’s how bad it is.... it is difficult to explain to someone who’s very assured about who they are

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Transgender women are women and men who choose sleep with them, if they aren't attracted to the opposite sex, are still straight."

You make this statement as if it is a universally accepted fact.

But of course it isn't.

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over a year ago

"Transgender women are women and men who choose sleep with them, if they aren't attracted to the opposite sex, are still straight.

You make this statement as if it is a universally accepted fact.

But of course it isn't. "

So those who fuck silicone female dolls, are they turned on by the fact that are meant to resemble women? Or are they a sexuality that is attracted to unanimated object?

All i am saying, if she is the closest thing to a female, it’s only normal that the attraction is from straight heterosexual male. (To the point that in many instances in the homosexual world, femininity is despised) Now, if it fucks with ur brain when you find out that she was born a boy, then that’s another issue.

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Transgender women are women and men who choose sleep with them, if they aren't attracted to the opposite sex, are still straight.

You make this statement as if it is a universally accepted fact.

But of course it isn't.

So those who fuck silicone female dolls, are they turned on by the fact that are meant to resemble women? Or are they a sexuality that is attracted to unanimated object?

I see your point but I just don't agree with it.

However that is the problem with opinions. On this topic there are diametrically opposed opinions and little chance that they will ever be reconciled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Transgender women are women and men who choose sleep with them, if they aren't attracted to the opposite sex, are still straight.

You make this statement as if it is a universally accepted fact.

But of course it isn't.

So those who fuck silicone female dolls, are they turned on by the fact that are meant to resemble women? Or are they a sexuality that is attracted to unanimated object?

I see your point but I just don't agree with it.

However that is the problem with opinions. On this topic there are diametrically opposed opinions and little chance that they will ever be reconciled."

And that’s okay , I guess we can only really definine ourselves really, and let other people define themselves as they like

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Transgender women are women and men who choose sleep with them, if they aren't attracted to the opposite sex, are still straight.

You make this statement as if it is a universally accepted fact.

But of course it isn't.

So those who fuck silicone female dolls, are they turned on by the fact that are meant to resemble women? Or are they a sexuality that is attracted to unanimated object?

I see your point but I just don't agree with it.

However that is the problem with opinions. On this topic there are diametrically opposed opinions and little chance that they will ever be reconciled.

And that’s okay , I guess we can only really definine ourselves really, and let other people define themselves as they like "

On that at least we are in agreement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as you are enjoying yourself does it matter, i couldnt give one iota what other think - its about me and that person

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"As long as you are enjoying yourself does it matter, i couldnt give one iota what other think - its about me and that person "

This xx

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By *arah_11TV/TS
over a year ago

Yeadon/Leeds

I think that it's more important how the op sees himself, rather than how other's see him.

Fab seems to encourage people to make a choice with three limited options where the option is about what looks best and will get them more meets (along with being discovered by other people on there profile whom they know from non fab)

I've met guys who on their profile say they are straight, bi and gay and probably get most messages from guys who describe themselves as straight

I have pictures of myself xdressed and as a guy

It's all very confusing but fab should expand the sexuality option or remove it

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?"

You know what it makes you

Human.

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over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?"

Probably but does it matter. As long as you enjoyed yourself. Labels are for the vanilla people

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

Probably but does it matter. As long as you enjoyed yourself. Labels are for the vanilla people"

Then that must mean we are vanilla people because to us labels are helpful in establishing shared interests and expectations.

I am not bothered what party you vote for or team you support but on a sex site an HONEST description of your sexual inclinations helps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

Probably but does it matter. As long as you enjoyed yourself. Labels are for the vanilla people

Then that must mean we are vanilla people because to us labels are helpful in establishing shared interests and expectations.

I am not bothered what party you vote for or team you support but on a sex site an HONEST description of your sexual inclinations helps."

So as label is so important, if a guy has had sex with cis women but tell you, once in Thailand he had sex with a trans girl... would he need to disclose that? If answer is yes, would you discard him?

If he identifies as straight , would you challenge him telling him he’s a liar?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?"

Yes.

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

Probably but does it matter. As long as you enjoyed yourself. Labels are for the vanilla people

Then that must mean we are vanilla people because to us labels are helpful in establishing shared interests and expectations.

I am not bothered what party you vote for or team you support but on a sex site an HONEST description of your sexual inclinations helps.

If he identifies as straight , would you challenge him telling him he’s a liar?

The answer to both is yes.

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Actually on consideration I wouldn't bother calling him a liar.

It would not be necessary and in any case pointless. However that is what our opinion would be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Actually on consideration I wouldn't bother calling him a liar.

It would not be necessary and in any case pointless. However that is what our opinion would be."

Its obviously up to you, but for some people I guess u will never know, reason why so many people keep things hidden .. and I am starting to understand why lol

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

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"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?"

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

one thing ive learned in life is lables mean bugger all

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol"

Sounds very offensive, especially to the ones who end up actually going to reassignment surgery and have people like you saying: no matter how hard you try you will never be a woman (or a lioness as you referenced)

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol

Sounds very offensive, especially to the ones who end up actually going to reassignment surgery and have people like you saying: no matter how hard you try you will never be a lioness.

Im not being offensive, and just like if I were to have plastic surgery and bleach my skin till I'm pale and call myself white it doesn't change the fact that I was born black

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol"

Not unless it also has reassignment as well otherwise a man could grow his hair long and call himself a woman.

There is more to changing gender than looks, its more about how it is mentally than physically.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whatever floats your boat doesn’t need a label as long as your happy

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"Whatever floats your boat doesn’t need a label as long as your happy"

So you're a 4ft gay female dwarf? Cool

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over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol

Sounds very offensive, especially to the ones who end up actually going to reassignment surgery and have people like you saying: no matter how hard you try you will never be a lioness.

Im not being offensive, and just like if I were to have plastic surgery and bleach my skin till I'm pale and call myself white it doesn't change the fact that I was born black"

But you certainly wouldn’t be black anymore if ur skin would be completely white. Now, would you be Caucasian, no. But you can made to resemble it...

also that’s the reason why we usually say Trans WOMAN.

I was born a male but certainly, you can’t say we look like we are the same gender.

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over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol

Not unless it also has reassignment as well otherwise a man could grow his hair long and call himself a woman.

There is more to changing gender than looks, its more about how it is mentally than physically."

Also this. Totally agreed.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol

Sounds very offensive, especially to the ones who end up actually going to reassignment surgery and have people like you saying: no matter how hard you try you will never be a lioness.

Im not being offensive, and just like if I were to have plastic surgery and bleach my skin till I'm pale and call myself white it doesn't change the fact that I was born black

But you certainly wouldn’t be black anymore if ur skin would be completely white. Now, would you be Caucasian, no. But you can made to resemble it...

also that’s the reason why we usually say Trans WOMAN.

I was born a male but certainly, you can’t say we look like we are the same gender."

I agree with you,I my skin won't be black anymore but my essence and DNA would prove I am.

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over a year ago

"Whatever floats your boat doesn’t need a label as long as your happy

So you're a 4ft gay female dwarf? Cool

Yes also have a limp

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over a year ago

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol

Sounds very offensive, especially to the ones who end up actually going to reassignment surgery and have people like you saying: no matter how hard you try you will never be a lioness.

Im not being offensive, and just like if I were to have plastic surgery and bleach my skin till I'm pale and call myself white it doesn't change the fact that I was born black

But you certainly wouldn’t be black anymore if ur skin would be completely white. Now, would you be Caucasian, no. But you can made to resemble it...

also that’s the reason why we usually say Trans WOMAN.

I was born a male but certainly, you can’t say we look like we are the same gender.

I agree with you,I my skin won't be black anymore but my essence and DNA would prove I am. "

I never disagree with that , my DNA says I was born a boy and that’s why I never trick anyone saying I am cis girl... I’d be lying if I did.

having said that my mind, style of living, and exterior say otherwise.

Thankfully things are changing and people are starting to understand more, and accept more.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol

"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol

Sounds very offensive, especially to the ones who end up actually going to reassignment surgery and have people like you saying: no matter how hard you try you will never be a lioness.

Im not being offensive, and just like if I were to have plastic surgery and bleach my skin till I'm pale and call myself white it doesn't change the fact that I was born black

But you certainly wouldn’t be black anymore if ur skin would be completely white. Now, would you be Caucasian, no. But you can made to resemble it...

also that’s the reason why we usually say Trans WOMAN.

I was born a male but certainly, you can’t say we look like we are the same gender.

I agree with you,I my skin won't be black anymore but my essence and DNA would prove I am.

I never disagree with that , my DNA says I was born a boy and that’s why I never trick anyone saying I am cis girl... I’d be lying if I did.

having said that my mind, style of living, and exterior say otherwise.

Thankfully things are changing and people are starting to understand more, and accept more."

You see you and i are on the same page. I have respect for Trans women and I do have a friend who's Trans and she's always honest upfront about it.

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"I identify if asked as straight but if im being honest very curious in a meeting a Bi MF couple and seeing what im open to.

I have met a very attractive woman with great tits who was born a man. I recieved head and fucked her in the ass. She still had a penis. Which i didnt touch or play with.

Does that make me Bi?

If you shave off a Lion's Mane does it become a Lioness lol"

It’s clear what you’re getting at and you’re absolutely right. It’s good to see people finally getting to grips with the advances in scientific knowledge.

I’m glad to see you acknowledge that surgery doesn’t suddenly make someone change gender; their brain was already that gender, provable by brain scans (male and female brains are easily seen this way). Aligning the exterior with the brain doesn’t change who you are unlike conversion therapy that attempts and fails to.

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