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"nobody want male for fun xx" Sp pick them up and put them down then. | |||
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"It's fine being happy to go on cam for people, but there are 1000s of single guys on here and unless someone is specifically looking for a chap like yourself I can't imagine many wanting to go to that trouble when they can just look at the pics on all the other single guy's profiles. You'd be much better off with pics on your profile then people can decide if it is worth contacting you. All the best with it, either way." You said it for us! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Better option ladies is give me a shout. I have pictures, I am taller, bigger and have more to offer size wise ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Better option ladies is give me a shout. I have pictures, I am taller, bigger and have more to offer size wise ![]() Neither of you are close to me. What is a girl to do? ![]() | |||
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"Better option ladies is give me a shout. I have pictures, I am taller, bigger and have more to offer size wise ![]() and modest to boot ![]() | |||
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"i meet smokers, must read my own profile, bloody typical man ,none of us read profiles ,xxx" A pic would b good ![]() | |||
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"NOT having a go at the poster of this thread, but just a general question to the forum in general: Sue likes a guy with a bit of muscle (toned) and almost every lady we've spoken to (in everyday life, at clubs) is the same. However, when it comes to bulking out bodybuilders, Sue is actually turned off by them and so are most women we've personally spoken to. Would be interesting to hear others' opinions? Thanks folks and have a nice day ![]() ![]() Ive heard that too from a lot of women its why i dont go bigger ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Although alot of people do say women don't like the roided up look,iv seen loads that do,either on a night out or at the gym or just walking through town etc." I got a few mates I will just call them my big boys and they are big and beautiful but have also seen the side affects not good x | |||
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"Yes the side affects can be bad,as someone who enjoys weight training+sport in general,i can see why they do roids,its basically an easy way of getting bigger alot lot quicker,people dont have the patience to train without them,but not for me personally" Not without reason the term "roid rage" exists. I do like weight training for a number of reasons; I do not approve of steroid use as it can affect the whole personality and not for the better I might add. | |||
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"Yes the side affects can be bad,as someone who enjoys weight training+sport in general,i can see why they do roids,its basically an easy way of getting bigger alot lot quicker,people dont have the patience to train without them,but not for me personallyNot without reason the term "roid rage" exists. I do like weight training for a number of reasons; I do not approve of steroid use as it can affect the whole personality and not for the better I might add. " very true does have the nasty side affects,and even worse affects internally,damaging your kidneys,liver,heart etc,although weight training on its own is fantastic,with many benefits so keep training! | |||
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"Yes the side affects can be bad,as someone who enjoys weight training+sport in general,i can see why they do roids,its basically an easy way of getting bigger alot lot quicker,people dont have the patience to train without them,but not for me personallyNot without reason the term "roid rage" exists. I do like weight training for a number of reasons; I do not approve of steroid use as it can affect the whole personality and not for the better I might add. very true does have the nasty side affects,and even worse affects internally,damaging your kidneys,liver,heart etc,although weight training on its own is fantastic,with many benefits so keep training!" Very true I knew a girl a few years back she did a lot of training when in the forces and when we met she was still very buff but i noticed that she was not that fit she was also prone to losing her temper fairly quickly (i later found that she was on the juice) I helped with her fitness training and legal help so she could join the police she passed the board and as far as i know is still a police officer ![]() ![]() | |||
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"As I have said before a well muscled and defined guy I like but the steroid and pumped up look I hate x" those well muscled and defined guys can also be on steroids. | |||
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"It always amuses us when people get on their high horses about steroids when they've never used them themselves. Yet the same people probably smoke and drink more than is good for them. As for them only being for show instead of go.......why do you think they're called performance enhancing drugs? Do you really think that the guys on Worlds Strongest Man etc do it all by just having a good diet? Anyone who takes steroids has to work at least twice as hard as normal or they're wasting their time as well as their money. ![]() ![]() Thats exactly what i said, so many talk shit about things they know nothing about... Maybe do some research before you say things ? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I doubt many of these roiders are actually that fit aswel,but i suppose they probably care less about that as long as they think they look good!" but you can say that about anyone who changes their body cosmetic surgery, how many women had boobs jobs that went wrong, people know the risks but still have it done in order to 'look good' the amount of women who pump slimming pills into them sunbeds lots of people take risks and dont care about the out come so long as they get closer to look how they want to | |||
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"Most got small willies ![]() Yet another fallacy, its the balls that can shrink due to the shut down of natural testosterone production. Probably wishful thinking or a rumour put about by skinny guys! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I doubt many of these roiders are actually that fit aswel,but i suppose they probably care less about that as long as they think they look good!" You look like you could do with some.. | |||
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"Most got small willies ![]() Another comment from someone that only knows what they hear...does make me laugh | |||
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"Most got small willies ![]() ![]() ![]() Most I have met have,same as rumours about BBC I suppose ![]() | |||
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"Most got small willies ![]() Not what I hear what I have seen, laugh all you like. | |||
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"It always amuses us when people get on their high horses about steroids when they've never used them themselves. Yet the same people probably smoke and drink more than is good for them. As for them only being for show instead of go.......why do you think they're called performance enhancing drugs? Do you really think that the guys on Worlds Strongest Man etc do it all by just having a good diet? Anyone who takes steroids has to work at least twice as hard as normal or they're wasting their time as well as their money. ![]() ![]() couldnt agree more. I beleive that if you dont know what youre doing or "over use" them then they're dangerous. If you eat properly and train religiously then there's no harm in having a "boost" every now and again. Ive taken a course of D-bol, which i didn't like so stopped but my gains went through the roof. No "roid rage" or bad side effects, i told my spotter whos also my best mate and he would of told me if he noticed a change . Also taken a course of Winstrol which i thought was good and again no side effects. Ive only done gear them 2 times, and in all honesty probably wont do them again, but you can tell who is and isnt on them in the gym ![]() | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made" You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? | |||
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"I doubt many of these roiders are actually that fit aswel,but i suppose they probably care less about that as long as they think they look good! You look like you could do with some.." not for me mate,il leave it to the unfit meatheads | |||
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"Most got small willies ![]() i have no idea if its common or if they affect people different but a friend of mine started taking steroids and he got erection problems after he have been taking them for a while, they didnt make him any smaller but he had problems getting a hard on | |||
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"Most got small willies ![]() Shouldn't have had trouble getting it up ...libido should have been really high with all that testosterone production.. | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic?" No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have " Ok so your are defending them ok cool. | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic?" if he is he might want to keep the receipt next time they dont seem to be working!! | |||
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"im not sure still why it aint just personal achievement and its you personally who gets a kick out of it .. ive invested alot of time and effort into personal training and whilst i might not look the part to every one else .. the changes that ive made to my body are significant to me and inspire me to continue .. no one else will eva see it but i always will . . so to me thats the job done " People don't want to put in the hard work,younger people want it right away and are not bothered about personal achievement | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? if he is he might want to keep the receipt next time they dont seem to be working!!" ![]() | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have Ok so your are defending them ok cool." I just believe people have the right do what they want.You only ever hear the negative on something yet how many of these people smoke,drink,take drugs,eat crap food or have cosmetic surgery done ... People make comments just based on stories they hear instead of facts | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have Ok so your are defending them ok cool. I just believe people have the right do what they want.You only ever hear the negative on something yet how many of these people smoke,drink,take drugs,eat crap food or have cosmetic surgery done ... People make comments just based on stories they hear instead of facts" I just made a comment on something I know from my experience, nothing more. | |||
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"im not sure still why it aint just personal achievement and its you personally who gets a kick out of it .. ive invested alot of time and effort into personal training and whilst i might not look the part to every one else .. the changes that ive made to my body are significant to me and inspire me to continue .. no one else will eva see it but i always will . . so to me thats the job done People don't want to put in the hard work,younger people want it right away and are not bothered about personal achievement " Yes and your natural training looks like its working well also | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have Ok so your are defending them ok cool. I just believe people have the right do what they want.You only ever hear the negative on something yet how many of these people smoke,drink,take drugs,eat crap food or have cosmetic surgery done ... People make comments just based on stories they hear instead of facts I just made a comment on something I know from my experience, nothing more." Ah right you've taken steroids ? Sorry i didn't know | |||
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"I think the thing that most dont like about steroids is the fact you have to by they under cover as so to speak how many body builders get their steriods from their doctor or buy them from a chesmist they are sold in the same way as drugs in many ways if they was really ok to take why cant you buy them from a chemist? i think thats what makes a lot weary of them" as far as im aware, its illegal in this country, but America its not, so people get them imported. Its not illegal to take them in UK but it is to deal them. | |||
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"Yep because any kind of mention of the word drugs or steroids etc and people think " omg that really bad " blah blah ...but these are the same people that drink,smoke or won't think anything about stuffing themselves with takeaway half the week...fact is more people die from all those things only you don't hear about it all the time." Ive seen people get more messed up with "prescription drugs" given by doctors than guys taking steroids sensibly along with good nutrition and training | |||
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"im not sure still why it aint just personal achievement and its you personally who gets a kick out of it .. ive invested alot of time and effort into personal training and whilst i might not look the part to every one else .. the changes that ive made to my body are significant to me and inspire me to continue .. no one else will eva see it but i always will . . so to me thats the job done People don't want to put in the hard work,younger people want it right away and are not bothered about personal achievement Yes and your natural training looks like its working well also " you seem very sensitive on the subject for some reason Maybe some peoples views are hitting home personally for you? But i do agree with you that everyone has the right to use steroids or not,all some are saying its not for them,many friends of mine have used them previously+currently i dont judge them,just wouldn't ever think they are worth doing for me | |||
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"I think the thing that most dont like about steroids is the fact you have to by they under cover as so to speak how many body builders get their steriods from their doctor or buy them from a chesmist they are sold in the same way as drugs in many ways if they was really ok to take why cant you buy them from a chemist? i think thats what makes a lot weary of them as far as im aware, its illegal in this country, but America its not, so people get them imported. Its not illegal to take them in UK but it is to deal them." by stopping the dealers they are stopping people taking them, as they have noone to buy them off well trying anyway we all know it wont stop people dealing or buying lol but even the fact its illegal to deal them shows that they are not safe to take without a doctors consent, steroids have many many side effects just look on the NHS web site | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have Ok so your are defending them ok cool. I just believe people have the right do what they want.You only ever hear the negative on something yet how many of these people smoke,drink,take drugs,eat crap food or have cosmetic surgery done ... People make comments just based on stories they hear instead of facts I just made a comment on something I know from my experience, nothing more. Ah right you've taken steroids ? Sorry i didn't know" Only injected in shoulder as it was frozen ![]() | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have Ok so your are defending them ok cool. I just believe people have the right do what they want.You only ever hear the negative on something yet how many of these people smoke,drink,take drugs,eat crap food or have cosmetic surgery done ... People make comments just based on stories they hear instead of facts I just made a comment on something I know from my experience, nothing more. Ah right you've taken steroids ? Sorry i didn't know Only injected in shoulder as it was frozen ![]() have you got one bicep bigger than the other now? ![]() | |||
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"im not sure still why it aint just personal achievement and its you personally who gets a kick out of it .. ive invested alot of time and effort into personal training and whilst i might not look the part to every one else .. the changes that ive made to my body are significant to me and inspire me to continue .. no one else will eva see it but i always will . . so to me thats the job done People don't want to put in the hard work,younger people want it right away and are not bothered about personal achievement Yes and your natural training looks like its working well also you seem very sensitive on the subject for some reason Maybe some peoples views are hitting home personally for you? But i do agree with you that everyone has the right to use steroids or not,all some are saying its not for them,many friends of mine have used them previously+currently i dont judge them,just wouldn't ever think they are worth doing for me" Nah not at all !! Just returning your comment. Everybody has their own ideas of what works for them...i just try to keep fit so in my old age i don't end up a fatty.. | |||
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" Everybody has their own ideas of what works for them...i just try to keep fit so in my old age i don't end up a fatty.. " hahaha i was wondering how long it would take you to bring up the subject of fat ![]() | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have Ok so your are defending them ok cool. I just believe people have the right do what they want.You only ever hear the negative on something yet how many of these people smoke,drink,take drugs,eat crap food or have cosmetic surgery done ... People make comments just based on stories they hear instead of facts I just made a comment on something I know from my experience, nothing more. Ah right you've taken steroids ? Sorry i didn't know Only injected in shoulder as it was frozen ![]() ![]() The anti-inflammation drug is from the steroid family but does not carry the same adverse effects as the body building one ![]() | |||
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"Taking steroids is not the easy track to a good body.You don't just take them then sit and watch TV whilst eating cakes ...there is still lots of work to put in at he gym and eating etc...also after a cycle other things to start your natural test production again along with more hard work in the gym to keep the gains that were made You take them then? just asking looking at your pic? No i've never taking them,but know many people that do or have Ok so your are defending them ok cool. I just believe people have the right do what they want.You only ever hear the negative on something yet how many of these people smoke,drink,take drugs,eat crap food or have cosmetic surgery done ... People make comments just based on stories they hear instead of facts I just made a comment on something I know from my experience, nothing more. Ah right you've taken steroids ? Sorry i didn't know Only injected in shoulder as it was frozen ![]() you roider! Lol | |||
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" Everybody has their own ideas of what works for them...i just try to keep fit so in my old age i don't end up a fatty.. hahaha i was wondering how long it would take you to bring up the subject of fat ![]() Oh god don't !! Not mentioning BBW ever again or i'll be hunted down i think ![]() | |||
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"I think the thing that most dont like about steroids is the fact you have to by they under cover as so to speak how many body builders get their steriods from their doctor or buy them from a chesmist they are sold in the same way as drugs in many ways if they was really ok to take why cant you buy them from a chemist? i think thats what makes a lot weary of them as far as im aware, its illegal in this country, but America its not, so people get them imported. Its not illegal to take them in UK but it is to deal them. by stopping the dealers they are stopping people taking them, as they have noone to buy them off well trying anyway we all know it wont stop people dealing or buying lol but even the fact its illegal to deal them shows that they are not safe to take without a doctors consent, steroids have many many side effects just look on the NHS web site" They don't need to be bought from dealers as they are only a class C..its not against the law to but them if for personal use,only illegal if bought with intent to supply .. | |||
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"im not sure still why it aint just personal achievement and its you personally who gets a kick out of it .. ive invested alot of time and effort into personal training and whilst i might not look the part to every one else .. the changes that ive made to my body are significant to me and inspire me to continue .. no one else will eva see it but i always will . . so to me thats the job done People don't want to put in the hard work,younger people want it right away and are not bothered about personal achievement Yes and your natural training looks like its working well also you seem very sensitive on the subject for some reason Maybe some peoples views are hitting home personally for you? But i do agree with you that everyone has the right to use steroids or not,all some are saying its not for them,many friends of mine have used them previously+currently i dont judge them,just wouldn't ever think they are worth doing for me Nah not at all !! Just returning your comment. Everybody has their own ideas of what works for them...i just try to keep fit so in my old age i don't end up a fatty.. " thats cool then! Yeah everyone is entitled to their opinion,and im sure your not that fat or old mate! | |||
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"Has anyone ever read 'The Adonis Complex' before? Personally I found it a fascinating insight into the male mentality toward bodybuilding." Nope sounds interesting | |||
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"i dont think theres anything wrong with taking steriods if done properly, trouble is there are too many people taking them with out knowing what they are doing. most people will have an opinion on them even if they Know nothing about them, usually they know somebody that knows somebody that had a bad experiance, and in most cases the person that had the bad experiance wasnt taking them properly. I dont take them my self but the thought has crossed my mind and i have read a fair bit about them. most of the side effects are rare, have a look at the side effects from some comon persciption drugs, your probley be supprised how many POSSIBLE side effects there are, dosent mean your going to have them. as for pro wrestlers deaths being related to steriods, thats compleat BS, from what ive read (not what somebody told me) there is no conclusive eveidence that anybody has died from steriods, there are a handfull of people around the world that have died whilst on cycle and the media jump on it and blame steriods with no scientific evidence. also most of the lads that suffer roid rage already have the predisposition for being dicks in the fist place " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I am not s body builder but told I look like one I am 17 stone 12 and 9% body fat , I compete in international strength events and last weekend won the world powerlifting championships in my weight class , I am drug tested so unable to use gear ! Constant diet , and never on less than 4,000 cal per day ! Hard work 5 days a week 530 am in the gym " I wish I had your motivation | |||
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"I am not s body builder but told I look like one I am 17 stone 12 and 9% body fat , I compete in international strength events and last weekend won the world powerlifting championships in my weight class , I am drug tested so unable to use gear ! Constant diet , and never on less than 4,000 cal per day ! Hard work 5 days a week 530 am in the gym I wish I had your motivation " Thank you , diet is 70% and progressive achievable training program 30% | |||
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"I am not s body builder but told I look like one I am 17 stone 12 and 9% body fat , I compete in international strength events and last weekend won the world powerlifting championships in my weight class , I am drug tested so unable to use gear ! Constant diet , and never on less than 4,000 cal per day ! Hard work 5 days a week 530 am in the gym I wish I had your motivation Thank you , diet is 70% and progressive achievable training program 30% " just goes to show you dont need steroids to be super strong,the strongest people i know are drug free,and well done with the powerlifting mate! | |||
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"I am not s body builder but told I look like one I am 17 stone 12 and 9% body fat , I compete in international strength events and last weekend won the world powerlifting championships in my weight class , I am drug tested so unable to use gear ! Constant diet , and never on less than 4,000 cal per day ! Hard work 5 days a week 530 am in the gym I wish I had your motivation Thank you , diet is 70% and progressive achievable training program 30% just goes to show you dont need steroids to be super strong,the strongest people i know are drug free,and well done with the powerlifting mate!" Thank you , there were some great male and female lifters from Wales | |||
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"Steroids is practically cheating in my opinion. I get accused of taking roids all you have to do is eat sleep and train hard Consistency is the key " Still don't see how its cheating ? Someone who decides to run a cycle still has to work just as hard in the gym and eat the right food.What if the said person has been training naturaly for a few years and reached their natural peak ? Some do it just to get them kickstarted again.When you get older the body doesn't purchase as much testosterone as a younger person..There are all kinds of reasons...what i find stupid is young lads doing it because they don't want to put in the hard work to get the body they desire . | |||
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"Steroids is practically cheating in my opinion. I get accused of taking roids all you have to do is eat sleep and train hard Consistency is the key Still don't see how its cheating ? Someone who decides to run a cycle still has to work just as hard in the gym and eat the right food.What if the said person has been training naturaly for a few years and reached their natural peak ? Some do it just to get them kickstarted again.When you get older the body doesn't purchase as much testosterone as a younger person..There are all kinds of reasons...what i find stupid is young lads doing it because they don't want to put in the hard work to get the body they desire ." I don't see it as cheating , I would use them if I could , would love to be 20 stone and still 9% body fat | |||
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"i took steroids b4 and i can attest 2 them fuckin up ur libido. Took me over 2 yrs to get back 2 myself cock wise.was told it was becoz i was on deca durobolin so next cycle just done test and winstrol and same.altho not as bad.even wen just on test it was either a feast or a famine which is no good,altho was takin more than 200mg or so which is recommended.i plan on takin some test wen over 40 as h.r.t but no more abusin.mr.c" it shuts down ur natural test production which is why you need to do your PCT after a cycle mate. PCT meds kickstart ur natural test production which will bring back ur libido ffs people ive never touched a roid but if ur gonna take it or are considering please do some research | |||
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"i took steroids b4 and i can attest 2 them fuckin up ur libido. Took me over 2 yrs to get back 2 myself cock wise.was told it was becoz i was on deca durobolin so next cycle just done test and winstrol and same.altho not as bad.even wen just on test it was either a feast or a famine which is no good,altho was takin more than 200mg or so which is recommended.i plan on takin some test wen over 40 as h.r.t but no more abusin.mr.c it shuts down ur natural test production which is why you need to do your PCT after a cycle mate. PCT meds kickstart ur natural test production which will bring back ur libido ffs people ive never touched a roid but if ur gonna take it or are considering please do some research" Yep exactly this your supposed to run HCG the last 2 -3 weeks before end of cycle then nolva at the end. This gets your natural test going and will help you keep much gains as possible | |||
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"i took steroids b4 and i can attest 2 them fuckin up ur libido. Took me over 2 yrs to get back 2 myself cock wise.was told it was becoz i was on deca durobolin so next cycle just done test and winstrol and same.altho not as bad.even wen just on test it was either a feast or a famine which is no good,altho was takin more than 200mg or so which is recommended.i plan on takin some test wen over 40 as h.r.t but no more abusin.mr.c it shuts down ur natural test production which is why you need to do your PCT after a cycle mate. PCT meds kickstart ur natural test production which will bring back ur libido ffs people ive never touched a roid but if ur gonna take it or are considering please do some research Yep exactly this your supposed to run HCG the last 2 -3 weeks before end of cycle then nolva at the end. This gets your natural test going and will help you keep much gains as possible" Wrong no point running tamoxifen or clomid while test is in your system so depending of the ester in the test you should start the day the test is out , | |||
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"i took steroids b4 and i can attest 2 them fuckin up ur libido. Took me over 2 yrs to get back 2 myself cock wise.was told it was becoz i was on deca durobolin so next cycle just done test and winstrol and same.altho not as bad.even wen just on test it was either a feast or a famine which is no good,altho was takin more than 200mg or so which is recommended.i plan on takin some test wen over 40 as h.r.t but no more abusin.mr.c it shuts down ur natural test production which is why you need to do your PCT after a cycle mate. PCT meds kickstart ur natural test production which will bring back ur libido ffs people ive never touched a roid but if ur gonna take it or are considering please do some research Yep exactly this your supposed to run HCG the last 2 -3 weeks before end of cycle then nolva at the end. This gets your natural test going and will help you keep much gains as possible Wrong no point running tamoxifen or clomid while test is in your system so depending of the ester in the test you should start the day the test is out ," Sorry yes i didn't mean straight after your last injection 2-3weeks later | |||
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"Steroids is practically cheating in my opinion. I get accused of taking roids all you have to do is eat sleep and train hard Consistency is the key " We agree, in as much as if you compete in a drug free, tested sport and take steroids then yes that's cheating. However, if you compete in a sport that isn't drug free or tested, such as most of the Bodybuilding shows and Strongest Man, then if you don't use steroids and expect to win the only person your cheating is yourself. The choice is yours! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Exactly what i mean no one really knows how to take them or at what dose there just isnt enough research. And taking someones word who isnt a scientist without signifiant testing is still risky. I think samples have only run on 100 ppl which is completely insignificant." NHS have run extensive tests on hgh, tedt, and deca , on HIV sufferers the results documented , dose and duration , I looked into the results for hgh and was very impressed however the dose required for my body weight and over 12 weeks were cost prohibitive ! | |||
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"Steroids is practically cheating in my opinion. I get accused of taking roids all you have to do is eat sleep and train hard Consistency is the key We agree, in as much as if you compete in a drug free, tested sport and take steroids then yes that's cheating. However, if you compete in a sport that isn't drug free or tested, such as most of the Bodybuilding shows and Strongest Man, then if you don't use steroids and expect to win the only person your cheating is yourself. The choice is yours! ![]() ![]() gotta agree with that,if your using steroids for individual purposes with no intention of competing in sports i.e rugby,football,athletics,boxing then your not cheating anyone of course,but as we have seen with lance armstrong recently,it can destroy your reputation and peoples faith in sports in general if used for performance enhancing reasons,which is a massive shame as the guy was a hero to millions | |||
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"Exactly what i mean no one really knows how to take them or at what dose there just isnt enough research. And taking someones word who isnt a scientist without signifiant testing is still risky. I think samples have only run on 100 ppl which is completely insignificant." I took steroids over a period of several years, taking breaks after each steroid cycle. At these times I would see my doctor for a full blood screen test, I offered to pay for the tests but he just said " At least your taking a calculated risk and having the break and blood tests shows that you wish to minimise the risks, which is more than can be said for all the smokers and drinkers that come to see me, so no fee is necessary". I also asked him his views on some of the various drugs I was using and he told me " Your the 'lab rat', you probably know a lot more about them than I do. The average G.P has about 8 weeks study on anabolic/androgenic steroids, so you tell me about their affects ". He was a very sensible, real world guy. ![]() | |||
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"Exactly what i mean no one really knows how to take them or at what dose there just isnt enough research. And taking someones word who isnt a scientist without signifiant testing is still risky. I think samples have only run on 100 ppl which is completely insignificant. NHS have run extensive tests on hgh, tedt, and deca , on HIV sufferers the results documented , dose and duration , I looked into the results for hgh and was very impressed however the dose required for my body weight and over 12 weeks were cost prohibitive ! " Tests on ppl with HIV would have different results to a perfectly healthy person. Id rather not trust what some guy at the gym claims or what someone has written online without any real evidence. How would you know what dosage is safe what effects it will have long term or short term. You can get amazing results without them. | |||
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" You can get amazing results without them." Depends on what you'd define as amazing - the fact is, some people simply have more natural genetic potential for building muscle than others. Personally I've trained for nearly 10 years, and yet my FFMI (Fat Free Mass Index) is just 22 - whilst this is described as well muscled by natural standards, its still a far cry from the scores of 24-25 (seen as the peak of natural potential at lower levels of bodyfat) which would belong to someone truly gifted as a bodybuilder. | |||
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" You can get amazing results without them. Depends on what you'd define as amazing - the fact is, some people simply have more natural genetic potential for building muscle than others. Personally I've trained for nearly 10 years, and yet my FFMI (Fat Free Mass Index) is just 22 - whilst this is described as well muscled by natural standards, its still a far cry from the scores of 24-25 (seen as the peak of natural potential at lower levels of bodyfat) which would belong to someone truly gifted as a bodybuilder." Body fat is mostly to do with diet u can train amazing but if you dont eat right u wont be as ripped. But i understand what u mean some ppl naturally have lower body fat but its harder for them to gain muscle mass so it works both ways | |||
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"Exactly what i mean no one really knows how to take them or at what dose there just isnt enough research. And taking someones word who isnt a scientist without signifiant testing is still risky. I think samples have only run on 100 ppl which is completely insignificant. NHS have run extensive tests on hgh, tedt, and deca , on HIV sufferers the results documented , dose and duration , I looked into the results for hgh and was very impressed however the dose required for my body weight and over 12 weeks were cost prohibitive ! Tests on ppl with HIV would have different results to a perfectly healthy person. Id rather not trust what some guy at the gym claims or what someone has written online without any real evidence. How would you know what dosage is safe what effects it will have long term or short term. You can get amazing results without them." anyone who considers using steroids should first Google Gregg Valentino and just maybe you'll come to your senses.. | |||
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" Body fat is mostly to do with diet u can train amazing but if you dont eat right u wont be as ripped. But i understand what u mean some ppl naturally have lower body fat but its harder for them to gain muscle mass so it works both ways" I'm aware that lower bodyfat leads to better muscle definition, but low bodyfat storage doesn't always mean a person has below average potential for building muscle. I knew one lad from school who probably weighed around 12 stone when he was 14, yet still had his abs etched in deep and bulging pecs - simply put, even at that young age, his potential for bodybuilding was readily apparent. | |||
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" anyone who considers using steroids should first Google Gregg Valentino and just maybe you'll come to your senses.." Greg Valentino used steroids, but his infamous arms were the result of Synthol injections (basically an oil which can be used to fill muscles up and make them look bigger). I believe the infection which damaged his biceps so badly came as a result of him injecting with improperly cleansed needles. | |||
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" anyone who considers using steroids should first Google Gregg Valentino and just maybe you'll come to your senses.. Greg Valentino used steroids, but his infamous arms were the result of Synthol injections (basically an oil which can be used to fill muscles up and make them look bigger). I believe the infection which damaged his biceps so badly came as a result of him injecting with improperly cleansed needles." ![]() | |||
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" anyone who considers using steroids should first Google Gregg Valentino and just maybe you'll come to your senses.. Greg Valentino used steroids, but his infamous arms were the result of Synthol injections (basically an oil which can be used to fill muscles up and make them look bigger). I believe the infection which damaged his biceps so badly came as a result of him injecting with improperly cleansed needles." http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=I7-L_TV3o2A&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DI7-L_TV3o2A | |||
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"thanks everyone for all your comments ,was very shocked by sheer over all volume of comments ,steroids clearly are very touch subject talk about ,but its somthing people who take them should talk about ,and only then that way can we full understand the good and the bad things experianced by such individuals ,and probaly save peoples lifes ,once again thank you everyone for your positive comments and negative to xxxxxx" so did you find a shag or not? ![]() | |||
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